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Page 1: Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling The Blake School Participants:Mark J. Hatch VP for Enrollment Colorado College Kirk Brennan Director
Page 2: Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling The Blake School Participants:Mark J. Hatch VP for Enrollment Colorado College Kirk Brennan Director

Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling

The Blake School

Participants: Mark J. Hatch VP for EnrollmentColorado College

Kirk Brennan Director of AdmissionsU.S.C.

Mark Spencer Director of College Advising

Deerfield Academy

Page 3: Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling The Blake School Participants:Mark J. Hatch VP for Enrollment Colorado College Kirk Brennan Director

Questions for each participant to

answer:

1.Share the history of your program.2.Why do you do it? 3.What are the advantages to your school, to the student?4.What are the disadvantages to your school, to the student?5.Please share some statistics. How many offers do you make? How many accepts? How many participate?

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6. Do you do anything special for the Midyears?

7. What options do they have during the first semester? Are they on their own or do you provide them with information about those options?

8. Do you ever admit any of the Midyears for the fall semester? Why or why not?

9. What feedback do you get from the students who participate in the Midyear program?

10. Do you have one piece of advice to share with others who are considering a Midyear program?

Questions for each participant to answer:

Page 5: Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling The Blake School Participants:Mark J. Hatch VP for Enrollment Colorado College Kirk Brennan Director

October 2013College Board Forum

Page 6: Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling The Blake School Participants:Mark J. Hatch VP for Enrollment Colorado College Kirk Brennan Director

Approximately 8-10% of each class (45-50 students)

Prior to 1998 it was a Summer Start Program with 80-100 students. June start for three Summer Blocks followed by the fall off.

Moved to Winter/January start in 1998 due to concerns with June 15th Block A start date.

Historically study abroad at CC has been 1/3 fall, 2/3 spring

Page 7: Moderator: Frank D. Sachs Director of College Counseling The Blake School Participants:Mark J. Hatch VP for Enrollment Colorado College Kirk Brennan Director

Some students request a GAP semester at the time of application

Alumni often ask if this is an option for their children

Some College Counselors are proactive in working with students and families

A few are surprised and shocked when offered a place but for January

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What do they do in the fall?

• Work and travel• Internships• NOLS• Where There Be Dragons• Study at a (local) college – as a non-

degree student• Spend time with family• Other

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Why is this important to us and the educational

process?• Getting off the treadmill• Reflection• Life experience• Getting ready for college• Maturity• Ownership and authorship

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SPRING ADMISSION AT USC

Kirk Brennan, Director of Admission

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Steven B. Sample Paul Rigali Joe Allen

Once upon a time…

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HISTORY

•Conceived in 1998, implemented in 1999•Renewed focus on Undergraduates•Response to USC transitioning to selective•Student-centered solution to challenge of enrolling a specific number•We have room in spring•Based in thinking that wait lists are not the best for students.

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PROCESS

April 1 AdmissionMay 1 Spring Enrollment ResponseMay ~15 Movement from spring to fall if anyJuly 1 Apply for housingAugust 1 Commitment deposit dueDecember ~10 Mid-Year OrientationJanuary ~10 Start of school

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ADVANTAGES

•Can allow for precision in shaping class•It’s an answer. Students can make plans•Eliminated the spring review cycle of October/November•We can say yes to more students

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CHALLENGES

[How much time do I have?]

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WHEN YOU GOT INTO SCDear [John Doe], Congratulations! You are among a select group of students who have been admitted to USC…"

See: http://fightonsprings.tumblr.com

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..for the spring semester

See: http://fightonsprings.tumblr.com

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CHALLENGES

Confusion•Big envelope•Feeling of second-class •Post-admit conversation is much different, urgent•Fall is depressing for the student•Some tempted to double deposit

Enrollment•Melt is higher, varies•Some academic programs can’t support it•New tuition stream becomes a new target•Moving spring admits to fall can be seen as failure•Draws out pressures/appeals•Extensive work with campus stakeholders•Size of pool likely smaller than wait-list pool

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CHALLENGES[Do I still have time?]

Student life•Fall means football season, rush•Transition seen as more difficult•Housing is difficult to manage•Students will engage during fall

What to do in the fall•Students don’t want to (or can’t) enroll in community college•Articulation pre-approvals

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ONE PIECE OF ADVICE

Think it through:•Gather buy-in from campus stakeholders•Hold the student’s hand from May to January•Guard value of wait-pool

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Mark Spencer

Currently: Director of College Advising

Deerfield Academy

Formally: Dean of Admission

Brandeis University

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Mid-Year Program• Advantages– Balance and Pace of life supported– Students asked to think differently about

admission– Pursue a productive and fulfilling experience– Study Abroad and Domestic– More admits in class (400 at Brandeis)– Graduate in seven semesters

• Disadvantages– No aid for abroad programs– Pre-med students and core classes off track– Initial negative and/or confused perception

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Mid-Year Program• What do in First Semester?

– Anything– Study Abroad (England, China, France,

Spain)– Washington DC semester– Train for a sport– Do community service project– Work as an EMT– Take classes locally– Try something new

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Mid-Year Program• Started @ 2005 to fill empty beds from

study away students.

• Thought we would get 50 in year 1, got 100

• Have admitted @400 to get 100 since

Admissions Volume Total - Mid Year

Year Entering 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013

Admits 436 424 407 427 413

Deposits 87 124 117 97 107

Yield 20.0% 29.2% 28.7% 22.7% 25.9%

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Mid-Year Program• Transitioning to Campus– Full week long Orientation program– Constant communication before January

entrance– Group bonding (100-member family)– Understanding course sequencing ahead of

time– Housing - together in nicer residences

• Other– Must enter in Spring, even if defer

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Mid-Year Program• Other, including “hidden”, benefits

– Character check - Students who elect to do mid-year show grit

– Mid-year students quickly assume leadership positions

– Admission officers make purer decisions, move beyond pressure for SAT and GPA numbers for US News ranking

• From the “other side of the desk”– Another opportunity for admission– Another opportunity for growth– Favors the wealthier, so counselor needs to be

creative with aid candidates and semester less tuition

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Q & A

But first some comments from Frank