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MY BAPTIST FOREBEARSAN ILLUSTRATED HISTORY

OF A DEDICATED BAPTIST PASTORAND HIS FAMILY

W.P. SCOTT.

BY ROLICKER CHANDLER

“I have taken you up, have fetched you from the ends of the earth,and summoned you from its farthest corners.” (Isaiah 41.9)

Copyright Rolicker Chandler 1994All rights reserved.

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CONTENTS.

Page.1 Frontispiece.

2 Contents.

3 Timeline - William Penford SCOTT.

4 Introduction.

Chapter5 1. Some History of early Baptists in Melbourne.9 2. William Penford Scott - His early life and

Studies.13 3 W.P’s First Pastorate.15 4 W.P.’s Second Pastorate, His Marriage and

the Birth of His Children.17 5 W.P.’s Last Pastorate in England and His

Journey to Australia.21 6 Jemima Scott’s Brother and His Family.23 7 W.P.’s Short Time in Adelaide and His

Journey to Melbourne.24 8 W.P.’s Term ‘Supplying the Pulpit’ at Collins

Street, and Jemima’s Journey to Melbourne28 9 The Separation at Collins Street and W.P.’s

Ministry at the Mechanics’ Institute.31 10 The Establishment of a New Church at

Albert Street, E. Melbourne and W.P.’sPastorate There.

32 11 William Penford Scott’s Death.37 12 Albert Street Flourishes Under Rev.

Isaac New.39 13 The Demise of the Albert Street Church.40 14 William Penford Scott’s Family40 14.1 Wife - Jemima nee Baker.40 14.2 Edward Pottinger.44 14.3 Mary Ann.45 14.4 Jane.45 14.5 William.54 14.6 Julia.56 14.7 Thomas Penford.56 14.8 Frances Jemima.57 15 Burges/Butland.

61 Conclusion.

Appendices -

62 A. Bibliography.64 B. Family Trees.66 C. Birth, Death and Marriage Certificates.

67 Index.

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W.P.Approx Age

1782 Thomas SCOTT (grocer) (W.P.’s Father) born.1784 7 Apr Elizabeth RICE christened.1807 14 Sept Thomas married Eliza RICE,

Gosport, HAM.

1808 20 Sept William Penford born Portsea,HAM.

1810 15 June Mary Ann Rice born Portsea, HAM.

1813 12 Sept Eliza Smith born Portsea, HAM.

1816 - 1828 Thomas & Eliza members of MazePond Baptist Church, Camberwell,London.

19 1827 7 Jan W.P. admitted as a member at MazePond.

20-23 1828 - 1831 Studied at Horton Academy,Bradford.

23-27 1831 - 1835 Pastor Baptist Church, Colne, LAN.

1833 5 Feb Eliza Smith married JamesFrederick NISBETT, Gosport,HAM.

1835 7 Sept Mary Ann Rice married JohnDEMFORD, Gosport, HAM.

27 1835 17 June W.P. married Jemima BAKER ofNottingham and at Nottingham,NTT.

28-36 1836 - 1844 Pastor Baptist Church,Loughborough, LEI.

29 1837 Edward Pottinger born Swanwick,DBY.

31 1839 Mary Ann born Loughborough, LEI.

32 1840 Jane “

33 1841 23 Apr William “

34 1842 5 Nov Julia “

36 1844 Thomas Penford “

37 1845 No pastorate.

38-40 1846 - 1848 Pastor Nottingham, NTT.

40 1848 16 Nov Left London on “Sir CharlesForbes”.

20 Dec Left Falmouth.1849 8 Apr Arrived Adelaide, S.A.

23 June Left Adelaide (on own) on“Souvenir”.

2 July Arrived Melbourne, VIC. to ‘fillthe pulpit’ at Collins Street BaptistChurch.

30 July Frances Jemima born Adelaide, S.A.

1 Nov Jemima and family left Adelaidewith Maria BAKER (niece) on“Australia”.

14 Nov Jemima arrived Melbourne, VIC.

42 1850 16 Oct W.P. left Collins Street Church forMechanics’ Institute Hall, CollinsStreet, Melb.

45 1853 16 Oct New Church opened at AlbertStreet, East Melbourne with W.P. asPastor.

47 1856 7 Apr William Penford SCOTT died inMelbourne.

1878 16 Aug Jemima died in Collingwood,

TIMELINE - William Penford SCOTT.

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INTRODUCTION

Disclaimer:- I am not a professional genealogist, researcher orauthor. This book has been written from my own research andpartly so that descendants may know something of their SCOTTancestors, especially Rev. William Penford Scott.

While in New Guinea in 1944 I read in”New Guinea Gold”, anewsletter for the troops, that a bushfire had raged throughBeaumaris destroying some 73 houses. I had a premonition thatour home, “Cliffs House”, 446 Beach Road, was among thoseburnt down. This was soon afterward confirmed when I receiveda telegram to that effect but that no one had been hurt.

I relate this to show how much harder it has been to piecetogether our family history - all family records were completelydestroyed, as were practically all the personal effects of myparents and those of my wife and myself. Later my father didcollect some photographs from his brothers and sisters as wellas a few copies of his father’s book Forty Years in theWilderness published on 9 March, 1893. This alone providedthe start on the Chandler side of the family.“Forty Years in the Wilderness” was reissued in 1990, edited byMichael Cannon, published by Loch Haven Books. John Laheyin his column “Lahey at Large” in “The Age” of 26 December,1990, had the following to say:-

In 1982 my wife remarked that my mother had said her grandfatherhad been the first minister at the Collins Street Baptist Church.Everything I now know of the Scotts has been “dug out” sincethat chance remark; including the fact that Rev. WilliamPenford Scott was not the first pastor of Collins Street butcertainly he was the second, although he was never given thepastorate, merely “filling the pulpit’’.

I have been helped by many people in my research to whom Iowe my heartfelt thanks. There are too many to list here, but Imust mention that my first contact was with Miss Struss,secretary to the present pastor, Rev R.N. Ham (no relation Ibelieve to the first pastor Rev John Ham). She very helpfullyshowed me the two publications put out by Collins Street. inwhich not only was Rev.W.P. Scott mentioned, but also mygrandfather John Chandler. Then came the first big breakthroughwhen I was privileged to see, handle, and copy the Minute BookNo 1 of Collins Street. Baptist Church commenced in December,1842. Three other good friends I must mention are Margaret(Marnie) Stevens, Joy Baker, and Jennifer Fullard. Also, last butby no means least, my son John, who inveigled me to use acomputer which turned out to be the means by which I at last wasable to come to terms with what I had put together over a numberof years. He led me through the mechanisms of a computer, ofwhich, because I had retired before computers had taken overthe world, my knowledge was ‘zilch’! Thanks John.

as happens every few years, a family comesto light that can span the history ofMelbourne in three generations. But thereis none, so far as I know, that can producesuch a story as this one by a pennilessbattler struggling to survive. John Chandlerwrote it in the worst year of the 1890sdepression. It has turned up like a littlenugget of gold in the 1990s recession.John Batman's hut and farm were stillstanding mear the corner of Flinders andSpencer streets when John Chandler arrivedfrom England with his parents in 1850. Hewas 11, and went to work at once. As adelivery boy fed on scraps, "I was so weakthat it was a burden for me to walk about",he records.Gold lured John and his father to the frontierlife of the diggings. They soon found itmore rewarding to follow each new rushwith a cartload of merchandise, includingsly grog. At 18, John was carting to thediggings with his own horse team, and it isthis part of his life that many readers willfind the most vivid.The hardship was unbelievable. His meetingwith hundreds of Chinese walking overlandto the diggings from Robe stays in the mind.Mr. Cannon writes; "His descriptions ofthis colorful era have hardly been equaled."Niether has his description of a bushfire.Spiritual torments afflicted John Chandlerthrough life. These alone are strong enoughto be the book's theme, which is perhapswhat he intended. They may seem quaintnow, but they are also a valuable insightinto the times; men did believe in God andthe reality of sin, and this belief did affecttheir actions. Chandler found peace withthe religious community called theParticular Baptists. The Zion BaptistChurch, which he helped to build, stillstands in Burwood Road, Hawthorn, Mr.Cannon says.

A vivid chronicle of early Melbourne reappears

It seems amazing that one of the best booksabout early Melbourne should have beenpublished just once, in 1893, thendisappeared until now. 'Forty Years in theWilderness' is a vivid chronicle of toil andtriumph by a man who came to Melbournejust before the gold rush and was anexperienced laboror at 13.He worked so hard that at times you thinkhis back would break. You can almostsmell his sweat as blunt as his fingers musthave been, he unfolds an engrossing story.This is one of the few accounts of earlyMelbourne told by a man who worked withhis hands, as ploughman, delivery boy, pig-herder, brickworks rouseabout, stableboy,gold-seeker, carter and finally shop-owner.Historians have used the book often, but thepublic hardly know it existed. When thedistinguished Michael Cannon set out toedit this new edition for Loch Haven Books,he could find one library copy of the original,in the Mitchell Library, New South Wales.But one man in Beaumaris, RolickerChandler, going on 73, keeps eight originalcopies in his study. Three are for his childrenand five for his grandchildren. He has spenthis life collecting them, for it was hisgrandfather, John Chandler, who wrote andpublished 'Forty Years in the Wilderness.'Some of John's sons developed the Chandlerhardware business into a chain of 17 shopsthat traded in Melbourne until the 1950s.The word grandfather comes as a shock.Surely Rolicker Chandler means that Johnwas his great-grandfather. No. Once again,

Picture by John Lamb

“Rolicker Chandler with a portrait of his grandparents. Hisgrandfather, John Chandler, wrote ‘Forty Years in the Wilderness’,about life in early Melbourne.” (The portrait of John and Ruth wastaken on 7 June, 1913, their 53rd wedding anniversary and her72nd birthday.)

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prudently brought with him sufficient timber to build his ownhome. He also brought with him the teaching of the BaptistChurch, for he was the first of his spiritual kind to arrive in thethree year old settlement.

Within twelve months he had built his home in Collins St,completed the woodwork of Melbourne’s first brick house (builtby John Brown of Como at the corner of Bourke and QueenStreets for the Rev.James Forbes , and established himself in thethriving building trade. He had accumulated enough capital tomake a successful bid of £197 for Allotment 17 in Section 6 at thesale of land held on 13 September,1838. This was a block 475 ftdeep with a frontage of 100 ft to Collins Street and Flinders Lane,starting 200 ft east of Swanston Street, the site now occupied bythe Regent Theatre.

Other Baptists had come to Melbourne by the time he hadpurchased his land. For example the Baptists were broughttogether by two new arrivals from Sydney, Robert Reeves whoset up as an auctioneer and estate agent, and Samuel Crook, aCongregationalist and cabinet maker who became the town’sfirst undertaker. When the small group decided to hold their firstreligious service it was on Napier’s recently purchased land thatthey pitched a tent for the purpose. The tent was lent by twostorekeepers, Peter Virtue a Baptist and Mr Miller, and on abright spring Sunday of 1838 the first Baptist service held inMelbourne was conducted by two laymen. One was Peter Virtue,he was a Scotish Baptist, a farmer and a storekeeper, fiery andsomething of a free-lance speaker, who appears never to havejoined a Baptist Church in Melbourne. The other was JamesWilson, a school teacher.

Services were quickly transferred across Collins Street to Crook’sfurniture shop at the northeast corner of Swanston and CollinsStreets, where the Town Hall now stands.

A new beginning was made in July 1840 with the coming of JohnJoseph Mouritz. We will see that Stephen Chandler worked forJ.J. Mouritz on his farm in the early 1850’s. Originally from thenorth of Ireland, he had given military service in India, afterwhich he found his way to Sydney. There he was associated withthe Rehoboth Baptist Church in Pitt Street, and for a periodserved as its pastor. On his first Sunday in Melbourne heconducted a service in Mr Crook’s warehouse in Little CollinsStreet. Furniture and coffins did not provide a congenialatmosphere for divine worship, so after a few weeks thecongregation moved to a large room in a house in Bourke Streeton the north side just east of Swanston Street. Baptisms in the Bayand in the Yarra River, which was a beautiful clear stream,followed. Attendances were never large however, and eventuallythe services were transferred to J.J. Mouritz’s own home.

In January 1841 John Lush arrived in the colony from the westof England. It would appear that he took some share in theservices, for he had preaching gifts. By occupation he was atailor. However he soon found himself at variance with thedoctrine and practice of J.J. Mouritz. He therefore opened hisown home for Baptist services, at which he preached. Thereafterit was possible to worship with Mouritz in the morning, and withthe handful of people who gathered about him in the afternoon.

Chapter 1.Some History of Early Baptists in Melbourne.

This book will attempt to cover some of the history of the twofamilies whose origins in Victoria commenced with Rev WilliamPenford SCOTT and also Stephen CHANDLER. These twowere my earliest ancestors who came to Victoria from England.The Scotts and Chandlers were both Baptist families; the Scottsbeing “Particular” while the Chandlers were “Strict” Baptists.

Baptists were found among Victoria’s earliest settlers, and theywere of British stock. They brought with them the varieties oftheological outlook and practice they had known in the homelandas will be shown in the Scott and Chandler histories. There wasdissension within both factions.

At first the Baptists worshipped with members of otherdenominations at religious services conducted by their fellowcitizens before the arrival of any resident minister. Such servicesfound a home in Melbourne’s earliest church, a small woodenbuilding surmounted by an old ship’s bell, which was erected in1837 near John Batman’s sheep pens on Western Hill, near thecorner of William and Little Collins Streets.

The members of other denominations were Presbyterian,Congregational and Anglican, but with the arrival of the firstresident minister, in October 1838, the Rev.James Couch Grylls,the wooden chapel was reserved for Church of England servicesexclusively.

Thomas Napier, a carpenter and Scot, carrying a letter ofcommendation from Dundee Baptist Church, arrived in HobartTown just in time to witness the final gathering of aboriginesbound for Flinders Island. With permission of the authorities, heput his artistic talent to use and painted several of the natives incanoes.

Napier was born at Marykirk, near Montrose, Scotland, on 11July 1802. As a boy he was brought up on farmwork. At fourteenyears of age he was sent to London as a clerk to his uncle, atimber and produce merchant, with whom he remained for sixyears. While in London he attended the best schools for paintingand was for two years in the British Museum Gallery. Afterwardshe returned to Scotland and learned the carpentry trade andstarted business for himself. Disappointed in his wish to go toIndia, he proceeded to Van Diemen’s Land.

In Hobart Town Napier, with his partner John Brown (laterbuilder and owner of Como, Toorak), built several houses,including one for the Surveyor-General George Frankland.Napier became a member of the Brisbane Street CongregationalChurch. There was one point in particular on which he insisted,which was perfect unanimity before any question should bedecided - decision by majority was unscriptural. In December1836 he set out his thinking on this matter in his resignation letterto the church. With the opening up of Port Phillip District bysettlers such as John Batman and John Pascoe Fawkner, Napiermoved across the strait. He chartered a small schooner, the“Gem”, arriving in Melbourne about the middle of 1837. He

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As mentioned earlier, there was dissension within the factionsand this was the first example. The names Lush, Mouritz andCrook will appear later when W.P. Scott comes on the scene.

Early in 1842 J.J. Mouritz moved out into the”bush” at Newtown,(Fitzroy and Collingwood, in later years) to begin dairying. Afew of the faithful followed him, and on Sunday 13 March, heconstituted the first Victorian Baptist Church. Since only threepeople participated in the Communion Service which followed,the membership was pitifully small. Most of his formercongregation found the journey to his farm too difficult for themto continue worshipping with him, and not all shared his peculiarconvictions.

The scandal of two Baptist causes in the young town could notgo unchallenged. Wiser counsels suggested that the partiesshould draw together, and as a result some measure of unanimitywas reached. Since Mouritz’s residence was too far removedfrom the centre of population and Lush’s house was too small,the united congregation secured for a few months the use of awooden schoolroom in Little Collins Street which belonged tothe Presbyterians. The two preachers shared the services, withassistance from Edward J. Peacock and Mr Dyer. A few monthslater, when the Presbyterians required the use of the schoolroom,the congregation removed to a room in Thomas Napiersunfinished house in Collins Street.

Before the group left the schoolroom however, a meeting washeld in September, 1842, at which it was agreed that a BaptistChurch should be formed forthwith. A small company set towork to draw up a statement of faith and order, but membersfound little common ground. Lush and his supporters soonwithdrew from the discussions.

Further division was prevented by the timely arrival in thecolony of Rev. John Ham, who succeeded in establishing aBaptist church in Melbourne after all other endeavours hadfailed. Ill health had compelled him to leave Birmingham andmake his way to Australia. He had intended to settle permanentlyin Sydney, but when his ship berthed at Port Phillip on Tuesday13 December, 1842, news of his arrival reached the ears of JohnLush and his friends who hurriedly arranged for him to preachin the Mechanics’ Institute (now the Athenæum) on the followingmorning. That day began a faithful ministry which continueduntil further ill health brought about his resignation in August,1847. As a result of wise leadership, an open-communionchurch was formed on 20 July, 1843, with 16 members.

I have been privileged to see and extract from the “Minute BookNo. 1” of the Collins Street Baptist Church and will quoteverbatim from these minutes where appropriate. The minutebook was commenced in December, 1842, and the first fewpages list Church Members. Against the first 16 names isshown:- “These persons were formed into a church by John Hamon 20 July, 1843”. His name heads the list as No.1.

J.J. Mouritz did not join the church. Since his removal toCollingwood he had maintained a weekly Bible class in hishome, and with the development of the neighbourhood, heenlarged his house and opened it for public worship. He built a

baptistry in his garden which he and other Baptist congregationsused, and later still erected a chapel on his land for the closedcommunion church which he formed. Rehoboth Chapel, PrincesStreet, was named after his former charge in Sydney. The churchcontinued in existence until his death in 1868. However, the listof members of Collins Street show that his son G.A. Mouritz,was received as member No, 47 on 6 November, 1848, and thathe resigned on 21 December, 1859.

The sermon which Rev. John Ham preached on his arrivaltogether with the private contacts he made, so impressed thelocal Baptists that, as shown above, they induced him to remainin Melbourne because of “the present scattered and unorganizedstate and want of efficient and faithful ministry”.

Rev. Ham was the father of three sons who, after their fatherwent to Sydney on medical advice in August, 1847, settled inMelbourne and made their names important throughout thecolony: Jabez who became one of the first editors of theMelbourne “Age”: Cornelius J. who became Mayor of Melbournein 1882 and later a member of the Legislative Council: andThomas, the most interesting. He was the first competentengraver in Melbourne and his accurate and detailed engravingsof early Melbourne buildings are now an important historicalsource. He published “Ham’s Australian Illustrated Magazine”,designed the first Victorian postage stamp in January 1850 anddesigned and executed the first brass foundation plate (beforethe practice of incising foundation stones) which was made forthe Collins Street Baptist Church and is now fixed to the CollinsStreet wall under the portico of that building.

It was not long before the young group of Baptists could see thatthey needed a building of their own. The congregation metregularly in the Mechanics’ Institute and at a meeting in July1844 it was decided to ask Rev. Ham to become the permanentpastor, to seek a site and to build a church.

The matter of procuring a site was a problem for the Baptists.The first English Baptist Church was formed in Holland in 1611after its followers had fled from persecution and intolerance intheir homeland. So nothing is new. Stephen Chandler and agroup of Baptists came to Victoria in 1850 to escape from theintolerance, particularly of the Church of England.

Because of the historical background and the almost continuouspersecution the church had suffered during its existence, ironhad entered into their hearts where state interference wasconcerned. Freedom of thought, lack of established creed anddoctrine were the all-important principles in their lives. Anyaction, and in this case it meant state aid towards the erection ofa church, which threatened these ideals was hated and abhorred.So,on the subject of the land grant to the Collins Street Church,thisattitude to state aid was an old problem.

Early in Australia’s history, the Governor of New South Walesenacted the Australian Churches Temporalities Act, whichaimed at encouraging the growth of churches in the new country,since it was seen that the existence of churches made for moralorder. The Act was politically as well as religiously motivated.The Act provided for the granting of sites of land, free, to any

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church, on application and subject to a nominal payment of afarthing per annum. Grants of £300 for the erection of churchbuildings were also to be given, provided the church first raisedthe same amount. A congregation of 100 people was entitled toanother grant, of £100 per annum towards a minister’s stipend,or up to £200 if the numbers were greater.

Many denominations availed themselves of these very generousoffers and many of the prominent churches around Melbourneare the result. The Collins Street Baptist congregation obviouslyaccepted the land granted by Governor La Trobe with somereservation because they had previously rejected the offer ofanother prominent site at the top end of the town as beingconsidered too out of the way. This pattern of rejection of stateaid was more the rule than not among Baptists until the late l9thCentury. Not only did this independent denomination rejectoffers of church sites and stipends, but also later the offers ofland for a college at Melbourne University and a generous grantfor the establishment of Grammar Schools.

It is now acknowledged that the almost unreasonableindependence displayed by the early Baptists was responsiblefor hindering the growth of the denomination in those importantearly days. Later, when their attitude had softened, aid was lessgenerous, owing to the exceptional progress of the colony dueto gold, and needed little Government stimulus.

The reason for the Baptists reacting, and at times campaigningfor the abolition of state aid, lies within their very nature. Beingborn of the Reformation, then of the Non-conformists, they werea product of a background of political interference, and as suchwere on the defensive. To the Baptists, as to other groups, anyaid meant State Control of worship, and a dictation of beliefs. Inthe light of history in Australia however, it can be seen that suchinterference was not forthcoming from the Governments, andthat all the other churches owed, was nominal gratitude and littleelse.

But they were not a rich group. This was a new country whereit became apparent that the State did not appear to apply pressurewith its help, the need for a church was urgent and it was ahumiliating prospect to have no building in a community wherenew, large and imposing churches for other denominations werespringing up.

Long discussions and painful heart searchings were finallyresolved in an approach being made to the Government for agrant of land. A previous offer by the Government in 1842 togive two acres of land on the south-west corner of Collins andRussell Streets had been rejected because of the inconvenience,so that when a request for a grant of land was eventually made,it was the present site. It is Allotment 5 of Section 11, which wasgiven on 26 March, 1845. The site has 100' frontage to CollinsStreet and extends from Collins Street to Little Collins Street.

Having swallowed the loathsome business of the site, theBuilding Committee lost no time. A building fund had alreadybeen opened and appeals to members and adherents had raisedsufficient funds, including a gift of £100 from Sydney Baptists,to think about immediate building. They approached an architect,

John Gill, to prepare plans for a church to seat four hundred. Thisdesign was approved and the tender of a Mr. Monger wasaccepted.

On 21 May, 1845, the foundation stone was laid by Rev. J.Saunders from Bathurst Street Baptist Church, Sydney. thebuilders were working at a time of satisfactory material andlabour supply and the work was finished in time to enable thechurch to be officially opened on Sunday 14 December, 1845,with special services conducted by the Reverends John Ham, E,Sweetman (Wesleyan) and J. Clow (Presbyterian).

Baptist Church, Collins street, 1845: engraving after S.T. Gill Victorian Illustrated Architect: John Gill

It was a large church, measuring about 130' X 66', set well backfrom the street line on its steeply rising site, and must haverequired a large amount of excavating to obtain a level area.

After the gold rush and the phenomenal growth of populationthat resulted, it became necessary to enlarge the building, and in1862 this was done with an increase of seating capacity to onethousand.

In August, 1847, Rev. John Ham resigned through continuingill-health and he went to Sydney. The congregation was thenadministered to by the lay pastor, John Lush. This was theposition when my Great grandfather, Rev. Willlam PenfordScott, appeared on the scene in 1849 and we will go back in timeto relate what is known of his personal history.

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Collins Street, 1853: Lithograph after E. Thomas.

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Collins Street in the year 1857, Baptist Church -- First building on the right.

1, St Enoch's Church.2, Baptist Church.3, Scots Church.

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entered Horton in 1828 where he is recorded as having been aresponsible student. His Tutor was Rev. William Steadman whoalso taught Rev. Isaac New who will come into this history afterW.P. died. W.P. remained at Horton until 1831 when he becamepastor at Colne Baptist Church in Lancashire.

The Report presented to Subscribers of Horton in 1832 has thefollowing to say:-

“Learning is being more widely diffused than formerly, and allclasses are ascending in the scale of knowledge, so that unlessthose who publicly teach the principles of Christianity makeprogress likewise, they will soon be in the rear of the age inwhich they live. Strong prejudices against TheologicalAcademies have existed in certain quarters, but they havegenerally given way as the real merits of the system have beenbetter understood, and in proportion as men’s minds havebecome more enlightened. The sentiment that ignorance is themother of piety or conducive to the prosperity of the church isa position so supremely absurd as to require no refutation. Tosuppose that the Minister who is totally unacquainted even withthe first principles of grammar and of composition, is therebythe better qualified for the discharge of the ministerial functions,is so monstrous, that those who would seriously maintain it arefit to be classed with Goths and Vandals! It may be questionedwhether even our Druidical ancestors would have been guilty ofsuch ineffable folly. In our day a liberal education is consideredindispensable, not only for what are called the learned professions,but also to qualify for many civil and philosophical pursuits: andsurely it must be equally important and necessary for those whostudy the science of Christianity, and teach the sublimest of alltruths! Many of the adversaries of revealed religion have muchlearning, and a considerable share of intellectual acumen is itnot then desirable that its advocates should be able to meet theirantagonists with similar weapons? In order, therefore, tofurnish pious and gifted young men with an opportunity ofacquiring an adequate share of learning, our dissenting Seminarieshave been established and that they have eminently contributedto advance the interests of truth and righteousness, must beobvious to all but determined bigots. Nor has there yet beendevised a more excellent way of attaining the end proposed.That your Institution, or any other of a similar kind, is faultless,no one pretends. All the schemes and devices of men aredefective-there is nothing in this world, whether human ordivine, but may be perverted and abused. The perversionhowever of any plan or system, can be no argument against itsgeneral excellence.

Your Committee have, doubtless, been deceived in some cases,and in others they may have erred but these cases are theexception and not the rule. It is true that some whom the Societyhas patronised have disappointed the expectations of theirfriends and the hopes of their Tutors other painful things alsohave transpired in the course of its history- but after making allthe allowances which truth and justice may demand, there willyet remain an amount of good achieved, and a majority of thosewho have received the advantages of the Academy, to establishits claim to extensive usefulness,- to give it an honourablereputation among kindred institutions,- and show it to have beenone means of enlarging and raising the denomination, and an

Chapter 2.William Penford Scott. His Early Life and Studies.

His father, Thomas SCOTT, was born c. 1782, and later becamea grocer. W.P.’s mother was christened Elizabeth RICE on 7April, 1784, at the Southampton, Hampshire, “Above BarIndependent Church”. Her father was Edward RICE. and motherMary Ann nee PENFORD, hence W.P.’ s second name,“Penford”.

The next definite date we know is 14 September, 1807, whenThomas married Eliza RICE in the Holy Trinity Church, GosportHampshire. It was usual for marriages to take place in the bride’sarea and or church. Whilst she was christened Elizabeth shemust have later taken the abridged name Eliza.

Their first child was William Penford (hereinafter shown asW.P.) and he was born on 20 September, 1808, registered at the“Portsea, Meeting House Alley Baptist Church”. The births ofhis two sisters were also registered at this church, they wereMary Ann Rice born 15 June, 1810, and Eliza Smith born 12September, 1813.

Thomas and Eliza moved to London not long after Eliza Smithwas born and they were admitted as members of the Maze PondBaptist Church, Old Kent Road, Camberwell, London on 6October, 1816, where they remained as members until 17November, 1828. Nothing further is known of them at present.

Other than William Penford’s birth nothing is known of himuntil he also became a member at Maze Pond on 7 January, 1827,when he was just 18 years old. The Church Minute Book of1822 - 1840 has the following reference under 1 January, 1827

“William Penford Scott came before the Church, andgave an account of his experiences in divine things muchto the Church’s satisfaction resolved that he be admitteda Member of the Church the next Lord’s Day at theLord’s table, he having been previously baptised by ourPastor.”

Young W.P. must have impressed his mentors and the result wasthe commencement of a career which, as we will see, was to takehim to college, to three pastorates in England and eventually toMelbourne and Collins Street Baptist Church. The Pastormentioned above was Rev. Isaac Mann who was a formerstudent of Horton Baptist College.

The former Baptist Church at Maze Pond which was founded in1735 became the Old Kent Road Baptist Church, and is onlylisted in the Baptist handbook up to 1941, by which time thereseems to have been no pastor and no members and it is presumedit then closed down.

“Having an ardent desire for the work of the ministry”, W.P. wassent by the Maze Pond church to the Horton Baptist College atBradford - the forerunner of Rawdon College, Leeds, andbecoming in 1964 the present Northern Baptist College,Manchester. It is from the Northern Baptist College that muchof the information came regarding W.P. in England. W.P.

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instrument of good to the church of God. To confirm this viewyour Committee need only point to England and Wales,- toIreland and Scotland,- to the United States and to Canada,- toSouth America,- to the East and the West Indies, and otherdistant places, in all of which there are to be found usefullabourers who are indebted to the patronage of this Institution.These are our Epistles, known and read of many thousands inboth hemispheres.

But instead of dilating on the numerous benefits which haveresulted from the Society’s efforts, the Committee would ratherurge to continued and increased exertions. Believing that thework in which they are engaged is the cause of God, and to bepermitted to labor for him, in any way, is a distinguished honour,they are anxious to persevere. The Christian ministry is adivinely appointed institution, and most intimately connectedwith the conversion of sinners. “Faith comes by hearing andhearing by the word of God. But how shall they preach withouta preacher, and how shall they preach except they be sent?” Ifthe reasons for maintaining a Christian ministry are scripturaland valid, so also are those which may be assigned for giving ita greater degree of efficiency. If one soul is of more worth thanthe whole world,-if the redemption of it is precious and it ceasethfor ever,-what a loud call is this on the friends of the Redeemer,to put forth their best energies and employ their liveliest zeal, inan undertaking which may be a means of saving many soulsfrom the second death. If he who shuts up his bowels ofcompassion from a brother in temporal distress has little or noneof the love of God in him,-what can be said of him, who, whileprofessing the religion of Christ, sees a crowd of sinners perishingaround him, and will not put forth a hand to save them? Theblood of souls indeed stains deeply-may it never rest on ourheads!

“God requireth that which is past” “the time is short!” Howrapid is its flight-how uncertain is human life! Many of ourFathers, of our brethren, and our fellow labourers have gone totheir rest. We are posting after them- a little longer, and our dayswill be numbered and finished. Behold! the Judge standeth atthe door! Let us act on the principle recommended by our greatMaster, and “work while it is called to-day-for the night of deathcometh when no man can work”-

“Seize the moments-“Seize and use them“Lest you lose them“And regret the wasted day.”

Our responsibility is awfully great. All must render unto God,and where much is given, much will be required. Great meansof benefiting others, if neglected or abused, must be attendedwith much guilt. “To him that knoweth to do good and doeth itnot, to him it is sin.” These are indeed serious considerations,and deserve to be duly weighed. In the solemn process of the lastjudgement, our blessed Lord will note men’s omissions as wellas performances, when he pronounces them blessed or cursed.The unprofitable servant will assuredly be cast out.

In conclusion, let us remember, that the vows of the Lord areupon us. We are infinitely indebted to his boundless grace, and

can never, either in time or in eternity, discharge our obligations.After we have done our utmost, we have done no more than itwas our duty to do-our goodness extendeth not to him. To yieldourselves, body and soul a living sacrifice in his cause-is but areasonable service. Prompted then by the high and holy aimswhich the gospel inspires, let us press forward, nothing dauntedby difficulties nor damped by discouragements, but like the heroof antiquity, count nothing done while any thing remains undone.”

PRESIDENT’S REPORT,

August 1st., 1832.

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Eighteen young men have pursued their studies during thewhole or a part of the past year, viz.:-John Morgan, Thomas Pottinger, William P. Scott, HenryAlbrecht, and William M’Carthy, for the former months of itJohn Jones, James Webb, David Thomas, David Marsh, DonaldThompson, Richard Tunley, Benaiah Hoe, Edmund Theobald,Hugh Anderson, John Evans, Morris Edwards, Isaac Griffiths,and James Hewlett, for the whole or nearly the whole of it.

With the exception of two persons about to be mentioned, theyhave conducted themselves with propriety, pursued their studieswith diligence, and bid fair for usefulness. The exceptions referto Mr. David Thomas, who on account of debts contracted byhim to a considerable amount, was desired to leave the Academy,-the other, Mr. John Evans, who for reasons which appeared tothe Tutors and Committee fully satisfactory, resigned hissituation.

Mr. John Morgan, whose time expired at Christmas last, went tosupply the church at Wem, but is since returned to Wales Mr.Thomas Pottinger has accepted an invitation from the church atAberdeen, and is settled as its Pastor Mr. William P. Scott issettled as Pastor of the church at Colne Mr. Henry Albrecht hasbeen ordained over the church at Mirfield Mr. William M’Carthy,for important reasons, resigned his situation at Christmas lastand the cases of Messrs. Thomas and Evans have been alreadynoticed. The remaining eleven solicit the patronage of theSociety for another year.

In addition to the above, Mr. David Taylor and Mr. Thomas H.Facer have pursued their studies at their own expense for nearlytwo years and are settled, the former at Bingley, and the latter atChapel Fold also Mr. James Smedmore, for the last year, at hisown expense.

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of the

EXAMINING COMMITTEE.

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The following is a list of what has been done this session, underthe direction of the Classical Tutor.

First Class.

Latin.- Livy, 1st. book, § 18th. to the end.Juvenal, four Satires, including nearly 2000 lines.

Greek.- Herodotus, Clio, § 45 to § 81.Euripides, the whole of the Medea.Demosthenes, 1st. Phillippic, 1st. Olynthiac.

Hebrew.-Psalms, 38th. to 55th.Isaih, 53rd. to 63rd.Jeremiah, 2nd. to 6th.Ezekiel, 1st. to 6th.Job, 37, ad finem.

Chaldee.-All in the Book of Daniel.

Private Studies.

Xen. Cyr. 2nd. book.

Mathematics.

Euclid.- 5th. and 6th. books.

Algebra.-Surds, Arith. and Geom. Progression Simple Equations,2nd. time and Quad. Equations.N.B. As there was but one Student in this class, who was absent nearly three months, the whole business of the class was, of course, during that time, suspended.

Second Class.

Latin.- Terence, the whole of the Andria.Horace, the 1st. and 3rd. books of the Odes.Tacitus, the whole of Vita Agricolæ

Greek.- Xenophon, the whole of the 2nd. book of the Anabasis.Homer, books 1st., 2d., and 3d.Herodotus, Clio, § 1 to § 45.

Hebrew.- The whole of the Book of Judges.Psalms, 1st. to 20th.

Euclid.- Part of 1st. book, all the 2nd., and part of the 3rd.

Algebra.- Two Simple Equations.

Private Studies.

Latin.- All the Students of this Class-the 2nd. and 4th. books of the Odes of Horace.Mr._______the Epodes also and the Carmen Seculare.Mr._______in addition to the above, the 1st. book of

Livy.Mr._______two books of Virgil.Mr._______the whole of Virgil, Cicero de Senectute andTacitus de Moribus Germanorum.

Greek.-Mr._______The Hecuba, and the 4th. book of Xenophon’sAnabasis.Mr._______Epistle to the Romans, and some other partsof the New Testament.Mr._______The whole of the New Testament.Mr._______Xen. Anab. book 3d.

Hebrew.- Two Students, the books of Ruth and Jonah.

Third Class.

Latin.- Caesar, 2d. and 3d. books.Virgil, 1st. book and part of the 2d.

Greek.- St. John, 7 chapters.Analecta Græca Minora, 16 pages.

Hebrew.- Genesis, 7 chapters.

Euclid.- 1st. book, 24 problems.

Private Studies.

Latin.- Caesar, 4th. book.

Greek.- The whole of the gospel of John, which was not read inclass, and the Epistle to Titus. N.B. This class consistedonly of one Student, who through illness and othercauses, experienced an interruption of two months.

The Fourth or Preparatory Class consisted entirely of Studentsfrom Wales, whose acquaintance with the English Languagewas very imperfect. They however went through most of theusual preparatory exercises.

The Students also attended a Course of Lectures on Chemistry,delivered by a Professor of considerable celebrity.

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The friends of the Institution will perceive, from the precedingdocument, that great diligence and perseverance, in the customaryand appropriate studies of the place, have characterised thesession. We regret that so few of the Committee found itconvenient to attend at the annual examination, or we might, bydividing the work among two or three separate companies, havedevoted a proper portion of time to every branch of study but thewhole devolving upon us, we found the two days appropriated

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to it scarcely sufficient to do justice to the Classical departmentalone. It is, however, very gratifying to our feelings, to beenabled to testify, that the manner in which the several classesacquitted themselves was highly creditable to the Students andtheir Tutors.

In addition to the customary examination by viva vocetranslations, parsing, scanning, &c. which occupied the firstday, and was, on the whole, very satisfactory on the second day,selections were made from several of the Greek and LatinAuthors, which had been read during the session of which, theindividuals of each class were required to furnish, without theaid of dictionary, grammar, &c. written translations, whichshould be faithful versions of the passages to be translated andspecimens of the Students’ acquaintance with the EnglishLanguage. Many of these translations were highly satisfactoryand evinced a very creditable acquaintance with the languagesfrom which they were made, and considerable facility in Englishcomposition. We were also much gratified by some poeticversions of the favourite Odes of Horace which were submittedto our inspection.

We regret that the time would not admit of much attention beingpaid to the Mathematical studies in which the Students offeredto be examined but the facility and accuracy which characterisedthe answers and demonstrations which were required, gave afavourable indication of industrious application to thoseimportant branches of science, as far as due attention to theirstudies would admit.

JOHN JACKSON.JOSEPH HARBOTTLE.”

Note the name “Thomas Pottinger” who studied with W.P. atHorton. As will be seen later the first child born to W.P.wasnamed Edward Pottinger and this name continued into the nextgeneration. Thomas Pottinger married Jane Baker, the sister ofW.P’s. wife, Jemima Baker. A Thomas Pottinger will come intothe history much later in Australia. There is a mystery herewhich has yet to be solved!

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“Baptists believe that infants are God’s little ones, whetherchildren of Christian or non-Christian parents, and acceptwithout modification the word of the Lord, ‘of such is theKingdom of Heaven’. This Christian view of the childmakes the external act of ‘Infant Baptism’ unnecessary.Christian Baptisms by which is meant the immersion ofbelievers as instituted by our Lord, is a personal, publicconfession of the believers identification with Christ,and also means of grace to the Christian. Baptism is anoutward act which symbolises, but does not effectregeneration, and salvation is not dependant on it. Baptismis a glorious privilege and a personal responsibility, andis a help to the believer in reminding him of his spiritualunion with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection.”

The Colne Church Book records mentioned above tell us thatW.P. was married while still at Colne, for Jemima SCOTT wasshown as dismissed from Nottingham to Colne in 1835. Jemimawas born in Nottingham on 12 April, 1810, and as it was usualfor marriages to take place in the bride’s church W.P. went toNottingham. However, some difficulty was encountered by myresearcher in finding it because marriages in non-conformistchurches were not recognised. Therefore W.P. and Jemimawere married in the Parish Church of St Marys by the vicar, Rev.George Wilkins D.D., on 17 June, 1835. One of the witnesseswas Jane Pottinger, Jemima’s sister. What is known of Jemima’shistory will be told later.

The Colne Church Book contained an entry of the ‘Five Things’dated May, 1835, which would most likely have been compiledunder the leadership of W.P. However, it seems it must havebeen “sat on” until 1851 when it was brought out and given anairing and adopted on 3 July, 1851, by the then Pastor, Mr. JamesPark. It was to be read over when newly baptised members wereadmitted into the Church. The following is what the entry in the“Colne Church Book” had to say:-

“The members of the Church meeting in Sion ChapelColne, consider the following things binding on them asmembers of the Church.

First, - That as a church we will to the utmost of ourpower maintain constantly and regularly the worship ofGod, the preaching of the Gospel, the administration ofDivine ordinances in this place, and that while we cherisha Xtian affection for all churches of Christ, we willconsider this Society and place as our family and homeas long as Divine providence shall continue our lives andour residence in this neighbourhood and that we willendeavour never to forsake the assembly of ourselvestogether.

Second, That while we consider it our duty to aid,according to the utmost of our ability the interests ofreligion in general, we will use our utmost endeavours toadvance the cause of Christ in this place, by our ferventprayers for a blessing in the ministry of the word, byinducing others to attend the preaching of the Gospel,and by encouraging and assisting those who appear to beenquiring the way to Sion.

Chapter 3. W.P.’s First Pastorate.

W.P. took up the pastorate at Colne in Lancashire in 1831 wherehe remained for six years. Much of the information regardingW.P. in Colne was kindly supplied by Mrs. Dora Yates a Deaconat the Trinity Baptist Church who wrote a book in 1985, “TheBaptists in Colne”.

The “Baptist Church Book”, Colne, 18 May, 1835, was apparentlycommenced as a Register of Members and on page 4 thereappears the name of William Penford Scott above which it states- “By dismission from Maze Pond, London.” Then in pencil atthe side - “Dismissed to Loughborough”. In the Baptist churchesto this day when a church member moves away from an area itis customary to fill out a form of dismission, hence the termdismissed to Loughborough, etc. The first meeting recorded inthe Church Book is dated 28 June, 1835, and was chaired by Mr.Wm. Penford Scott, Pastor. Amongst resolutions at this meetingthere appears :-

“Resolved that the letter to the Church at Nottingham,read by the Pastor, requesting the dismission of JemimaScott be adopted and sent.”

Then on Sunday 21, February, 1836, the following isrecorded:-

“A letter from the church at Nottingham read dismissingJemima Scott from their communion to ours”.

An extract from “A brief outline of the history of the Baptized(sic) Church at Colne” partly copied from the Circular Letter tothe Churches of the Lancashire and Cheshire Association anddated May, 1842 made this mention of W.P.:-

“Mr. William Penford Scott who had been recently amember at Maze Pond in London was accepted as aminister, and entered the duties of the pastorate in 1831.He had good preaching talents and continued the villagepreachings. He continued about six years and left theChurch and Congregation not quite so good as he foundthem.”

Like some pronouncements when taken out of context thissounds rather harsh criticism, but when put into the context ofcircumstances prevailing:-

“During this time the temporal circumstances of theChurch and congregation were very depressed throughthe vicissitudes of trade and commerce, and severalpersons who contributed liberally to the funds of theinterest left the neighbourhood.”

It is understandable that the diminution of members wassomething over which he had no control and as copies of theMembership show there were quite a number of baptisms duringthe ministry of W.P. It must be noted that the significance ofbaptism is very important, for example:-

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Third,- That we will each make it a point of conscienceto help the promotion of religion in the families of whichwe form part, or in which we live, that those of us who areplaced at the head of a family will through Divine graceadopt the absolutions of Joshua “as for me and my housewe will serve the Lord.”

Fourth,- That we will endeavour through Divine assistanceto walk circumspectly in the world, to fill up our stationin life whatever that station may be, with integrity anduprightness shunning the vice and follies of the times,avoid conformity to the world, and “abstaining from allappearance of evil” that we may adorn the doctrines ofGod our Saviour in all things.

Fifth,- That we will cultivate towards each a spirit ofbrotherly love and kindness - that it shall be our objectto seek each other’s welfare and happiness - that sensibleof the imperfections of the present state we will endeavourto exercise toward each other a spirit of forbearance andforgiveness, of meekness and gentleness - that we willwatch over each other in love be willing as far as duty willallow, to sacrifice our private opinions and feelings to thegood of the whole.”

A view of Colne Lancashire

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Chapter 4.W.P.’s Second Pastorate, His Marriage and theBirth of His Children.

In early 1836 W.P. moved to the pastorate at Loughborough inLeicestershire where he remained until 1844. His address therewas Penfold Gate. During this period he and Jemima had sixchildren, namely:-

1837 Edward Pottinger whose marriage and deathcertificates show he was born in Swanwick, Derbyshire.At this time Thomas Pottinger and his wife Jane neeBaker, were at Swanwick , where Thomas was BaptistPastor.

1839 Mary Ann born Loughborough, Lei.

1840 Jane born Loughborough, Lei.

1841 23 AprilWilliam born Loughborough, Lei.(My grandfather)

1842 5 Nov. Julia born Loughborough, Lei.

1844 Thomas Penford born Loughborough, Lei.

The seventh and last child, Frances Jemima, was born on30 July,1849, in Adelaide, South Australia.

Letters to the Loughborough Baptist Church produced noinformation regarding W.P. For example the Minister of thechurch, Rev. David Butcher, wrote that “Our former Minister,Dr. Joseph Brewer, wrote a comprehensive history of theBaptists of Loughborough about 12 years ago. However, he hasno recollection of the above Minister (Rev. W.P Scott) servingany of the Churches in Loughborough during the last century.All our records are vested with the Leicestershire RecordsOffice. However, being a Baptist Church, we have no records ofinfant baptisms. You would need to refer to the Registrar’sOffice.”

Research material was sent to Mr. Butcher suggesting thatshould Dr. Brewer be reviewing his comprehensive history hemay find it of interest.

A letter to the Leicestershire Registrar brought the reply that therecords of the Loughborough Baptists deposited at his office donot contain any material that might be of help. The registers to1837 should have been deposited at the Public Record Office inLondon but may have simply been lost over the years.

However, the 1841 census for Loughborough, Leicestershire,shows W.P. as living at Penfold Gate with the following:-

Names of each Age Profession, Trade Whether Bornperson who abode Employment or of in Samethere in the Independent means Countypreceding night.

William Scott 30 Dissenting Minister No

Jemima Scott 30 No

Edward Scott 4 No

Mary Scott 3 Yes

Jamy Scott * 1 Yes

William Scott 1 m'th Yes

Ann Rice 50 Independent No

Mary Wood 20 Servant Yes

*This must have been Jane.

The Enumerator’s Schedule shown below covered the 1841census of England and Wales and of the area of Loughboroughin which W.P. and family were living at the time.

“England and WalesEnumerator’s Schedule

County of LeicesterHundred, Wapentake, Soke or Liberty of Goscote WestParish of LoughboroughTownship ofCity, or Borough or Town or County Corporate ofLoughborough/Part ofWithin the Limits of the Parliamentary Boundary of the City orBorough ofWithin the Municipal Boundary of

_________________Superintendent Registrar’s District LoughboroughRegistrar’s District LoughboroughNo. of Enumerator’ s District 14

Description of ditto - All that part of the town of Loughboroughcomprising Penfold Gate to the Theatre, Penfold Row, Buckhornsquare, Spring gardens, to the Royal George and terminating atMrs Cradock’s.”!

‘Hundred in central and southern England was a name for adistrict corresponding to the ‘Wapentake’ of northern England.The ‘hundred’ is an old designation for an administrative area,part of a county or shire. At the beginning of the eleventh centurythe shires of England south of Tees were subdivided into anumber of smaller units called hundred, wapentakes, sokes orliberties, etc. Hundreds predominated, wapentakes being mainlyconfined to those parts of which Scandinavian influence wasstrongest, and liberty mainly in the Isle of Wight.Hundred was supposed to imply the territory occupied by onehundred families, the spaces of one hundred hides of land, thecapacity of providing one hundred soldiers, etc.

A ‘hide’ refers to a variable measure of land, formerly onesufficient to support a family or household and varying in extent

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from 60 to 100 acres.’Soke’ is described as a right of localjurisdiction, a district under a particular jurisdiction or a localdivision of a minor character.

Ann Rice shown on the Census return for 1841 as of independentmeans must have been a close relative of W.P.’s mother butnothing definite as to the relationship has yet been found. Agesshown on the census very often were rounded to the nearest ten.The only Ann Rice found on the I.G (International GenealogicalIndex of the Latter Day Saints) who would fit in was christenedat Gosport Holy Trinity Church on 7 November, 1793. Shewould have been about 48 in 1841. Her father was Thomas Riceand mother Ann, maiden name not shown.

Penfold Gate is shown on William’s birth certificate as his placeof birth, no wonder that sometimes W.P. was described asWilliam Penfold Scott!

Note that they employed a servant, one Mary Wood aged 20 (orthereabouts) and born in Leicestershire.

Since writing the above, I have received a letter from Mrs DoraYates of Colne, Lancastershire, England, who is mentioned inChapter 3. She had been trying for some time to find somethingabout W. P.’s pastorate at Loughborough for me. Enclosed withher letter was the following extract from “A brief history of theBaptist Churches in the Leicestershire Association — 1865”.

“10 LOUGHBOROUGH..

The Particular Baptist church, Sparrow Hill, originated in asecession from the General Baptist church under the care of theRev. T. Stevenson, then meeting in Woodgate chapel,Loughborough. The separation arose from a difference ofopinion respecting an act of church discipline. There being nochurch within a convenient distance with which the secederscould conscientiously unite, in the year 1815 a small place ofworship, 30 feet by 21, was erected, and opened by theRev.Robert Hall of Leicester. In November of the same yearthey were formed into a church; and, in the following year, theRev. Geoege Capes became their pastor. His ministry havingbeen attended with considerable success, the place was found tobe inconveniently small; and, therefore, in the year 1818, thepresent chapel was erected and opened. In 1826, after ten years’ministry, Mr. Capes resigned his pastorate; and, in 1828, wassucceeded by the Rev. Isaac New, student from BradfordCollege. The flourishing state of the congregation renderednecessary the erection of galleries, which were opened at theclose of the same year. In 1829 the number of members was 58.After a pastorate of three years, Mr. New resigned his office,when the pulpit was supplied for some months by the Rev.Joshua Gray, who left during his probation to go to Cambridge.In 1832, the Rev. George Aveline became the pastor, andretained his office until the year 1837. During this year thechurch was considerably affected by the general mortalitywhich prevailed. In the summer of 1837, the Rev. W. P, Scottbecame the pastor, remaining till the close of 1844. He was aman of kind and gentle spirit, and his ministry was attended witha good measure of success.At the beginning of 1845, the Rev. Charles Stanford succeeded

him; and in the same year the practice of open communion withthe members of Pædo-baptist churches was adopted. The graceand charm of Mr. Stanford’s eloquence in proclaiming the truthsof the gospel of Christ rendered his ministry attractive to many;and his removal in December, 1846, was a loss to the town. Atthis time the church numbered 71 members. In 1848, the Rev.J. Cooper, late student of Bradford College, received theunanimous call of the church to the pastorate; and after a briefministry, was succeeded by the Rev. James Smith, after whoseremoval the church was dissolved and the chapel almost closed.In the year 1856, after considerable alterations and repairs, thechapel was re-opened and a new church formed under thepastoral care of the Rev. W. Pechey, M.A., consisting of ninemembers. He gained the respect of all classes, and his preachingwas very acceptable. After two years’ labours he resigned hisoffice, the church then numbering sixteen members. In Augustof the same year, the Rev. T. Bumpus became the pastor, and stillcontinues zealously prosecuting under many difficulties hiswork of faith and labour of love. The church now numbers 38members. The Sunday School contains about 140 children, andthe various institutions for the spread of the gospel in connectionwith the church and congragation are in successfull operation.”

Note that the Rev. Isaac New was pastor at Loughboroughsometime before W. P. He was the pastor who took over AlbertStreet after W. P. died in 1856.

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Chapter 5.W.P.’s Last Pastorate in England and His Journeyto Australia.

In 1844 W.P. left Loughborough; however, Horton Academyrecords show no pastorate in 1844 although he was Pastor at aBaptist Church in Nottingham until 1848. This church is notspecified in Horton Academy records and again nothing ofsubstance has yet been found regarding his ministry atNottingham.

W.P. Scott and family left London for Australia on board the“Sir Charles Forbes” on 16 November and Falmouth on 20December, 1848. The journey out took 144 days from Londonarriving in Adelaide on 8 April, 1849. As will be seen laterJemima’s brother, Thomas Curtis Baker and his family werealso on board,so much planning and heart-searching must havegone on in Nottingham during W.P.’s ministry there.

The”Sir Charles Forbes” was a barque:-

She was of 364 tons with adraught of 17' of water whenloaded. She had two decksand was built of pitch pineby Alex Hall at Aberdeen,Scotland in 1824. To givesome idea of her size, the“Polly Woodside” which isin the Duke and Orr dry dockMelbourne as part of theMaritime Museum is of 648tons!

When launched the “SirCharles Forbes” was A1 atLloyds’, i.e., “the firstdescription of first class andbuilt of first qualitymaterial.” At later surveysshe was down graded slightlyto AEl. The first owners wereM’Innes and the first captainwas Fullarton who took heron her maiden voyage fromher home port of London toCalcutta.

Like several of the early emigrant ships the “Sir Charles Forbes”also saw service as a convict transport. Between 1825 and 1837she made five voyages as a transport, on two occasions carryingfemale convicts. Her maximum load was 150 convicts plusguards. In the plan shown below advertising a voyage in 1839she had been refitted to carry over ninety emigrants - forty in hervery limited steerage and more than fifty paying fares for cabins.On this voyage she left Liverpool on 1 January arriving inAdelaide on 7 July, 1839.

In the Lloyds’ year of 1847 (1 July, 1847 to 30 June, 1848) the“Sir Charles Forbes” came from London to N.S.W. when themaster was Captain Adams, In 1848 she went from London toValparaso under Captain William Henry Prynn. He was asecond class captain born in the year the ship was launched,1824. He then brought the ship to Australia on the voyage onwhich Rev. W.P. Scott and family and T.C. Baker and familytravelled, arriving in Adelaide on 8 April, 1849.

Two South Australian newspapers reported the arrival of the”Sir Charles Forbes”. “The Register” of Wednesday 11 April,1849 recorded her arrival on Sunday 8 April leaving London andFalmouth (December 22) with cargo and 97 passengers. However,“The Register” listed only 93 of the passengers. “The SouthAustralian” of Tuesday 10 April recorded her arrival on 8 Aprilleaving London, 16 November, and Falmouth, 20 December.This newspaper listed only 88 passengers and the respective listsare shown below:-

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“The Register” “The South Australian”

In the Cabin

Mr & Mrs T.W. Powell Mr T.W. Powell wife andand 5 children 5 childrenD.T. O’Brien Daniel S. O’BrienE.C. Griffin Mr Charles E. GriffinMrs J. Bunce & 3 children Mrs J. BunceDr Bunce & Lady Dr. Bunce & LadyMiss Mary Ann Kilner Mary Ann Kidner

In the Steerage

J. Alsop wife & 7 children Mr Paul John Alsop wifeand 7 children

R. Badden Robt BuddenA. Dawell Alfred DawillC. Hake Charles HakeA, Denor Andrew DewarJ. Woodforde James WoodfordeCharlotte Manders Charlotte MandersJemima Simpson Jemima SimpsonW.P. Scott wife and Wm Penford Scott and5 children wife

Edward PottingerJane PottingerWm ScottJulia ScottThomas Scott

D. Sands wife and David Sands wife and 8 children 8 childrenW. Mylata and wife Wm Myested and wifeAnn Cloak Ann CloakEliza Barnett Eliza BarnettC. Eddones and wife Charles Eddones and wifeJ. Anton wife & 7 children Joseph Aston wife & 7 childrenCharlotte Payers Charlotte FayersCharlotte Berje & 5 children Charlotte Boyd & 5 childrenH. Spiers wife and Henry Spiers wife and 2 children 2 childrenR. Bressay Ruth BressyJ. Bill and wife J. Bell and wifeA. Green Alfred GreenF. Harper Frederick HarperM. Battle wife & 5 children Mr Baker wife & 5 childrenEliza Parsons Eliza SarsonJ. Coogier J. Cooper and wifeH. CoogterMr Paul wife & child

This highlights some of the difficulties met when researchingdetails for a family history!

The “Sir Charles Forbes” cargo consisted of:29 crates, 47 boxes, 53 casks, 9 ? , 150 cases, 32 qr. casks,10 barrels, 15 chests, 13 bags, 45 bundles, A. Thomson,10 casks, 13 bundles, R. Parkert 2 cases J.R.S. Fowler 1

case, Miss E. Timbell 1 case, Miss Challenor, 1 cask, 1case, J. Morphett 1 case, A.B. Cater 127 kegs, 1 box, 7casks, 13 bundles, 10 axles and bushes, 12 arms, 200ovens and covers, 20 share moulds, 1 ? , 6 boxes, 2bundles, 1 cask, J.Aston 4 cases, 1 box, Mc Nicol &Young 1 case, A. Scott 4 casks copper, 1 box silver, E.Stephens 2 chests, 14 casks, 5 barrels, 4 bags, 2 ? , 3 ? ,8 cases, R. Stuckey 1 case, Wm Simpson 4 pkgs, 51trusses, 2 crates, 2 mats, 1 frame, 1 lead ? , 1 basket, 2casks, 11 boxes, 1 paper parcel, 18 cases, T.W. Powell 2cases, A, Forstert 36 casks, Captain Prynn 4 cases, 59bundles, 11 casks, 46 kegs, 1 bag, 8 ? chairs, 4 ? , 68 armmoulds, 100 camp ovens and covers, 68 pots and covers,35 moulds, Younghusband & Co. 10 bales, 10 cases, S.Hartt 2 ? , 12 Qr casks, 122 cases, Montefiore & Co. 6pianos, R. Bunce parcel, H. ? .

The “Sir Charles Forbes” remained in Port Adelaide dischargingcargo from London (A. Thomson, Agent) for some time. “TheSouth Australian” on Saturday 2 June, 1849, recorded under“Ship Mails”, that the ship was taking on mail for Sydney andNew Zealand, leaving for Sydney on Monday 4th inst. at halfpast 12 o’clock. However, she was not cleared out until Thursday7 June, for Sydney with 12 passengers.

The passenger shown as A. Dawell or Alfred Dawill wasactually Alfred Darvall. The following is reproduced with thekind permission of Mrs. Margaret (Marnie) Stevens nee Darvallwho owns the original. It was written by Alfred Darvall of hisjourney to Adelaide, South Australia, on the “Sir CharlesForbes” between 16 November1848, and 8 April, 1849. TheDarvalls will re-enter this history later.

Part of the Journal of Alfred DARVALL of his voyage in 1848/9 on board “Sir Charles Forbes” with the Scotts and Bakers:-

Journal page 2. “The crew of the Sir Charles Forbesis composed of the Captain, first and second Mates, sixmen and three boys, the men, Gilbert a tall Scotchman,Jim a short thick Scotchman, Smith also a Scotchman,Saddler a cockney who has seen many reverses offortune, lived sometime in Adelaide been first mate of avessel, Dick a regular jolly tar, & Harvey a sharp activeyoung fellow, who hopes next voyage to go second mate.The boys are Charley, Jimmy Ducks & Sanders. Thenthere are two cooks (Drs) Savage & Johnston, Thesteward & his mate Bill a very dour good natured fellowand the carpenter. Captain Prynn a young man, middleheight rather slight but strong & active with lightcomplexion & red hair, & very kind but high spirited. Asincere Christian. Mr. Chellew first mate. A short thickset man with rather large features, a thorough sailor,rough & blunt, rather stern, the sailors consider himoverbearing, but he is a very sincere good man & aChristian. Both Captain & Mate are Wesleyans, & bothmarried. The third mate. His name is Pope, also a smallman rather round shouldered & very good humoured, hehas a turn up nose & a very good humoured twinkle of theeye. Gilbert a tall man about 50 years of age goodhumoured, very bushy hair & wiskers quite under hischin & when anyone goes to the fo’castle at any meal

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time he calls out for them to come & see the wild beastsfed, as he has such a mane the men call him the Lion.James Wishart or Jimmy an uncommonly good naturedfellow about 30 years of age stout & well made alwaysready & laughs, has a turn up nose, can turn barber orploughman, has been a whaler. Smith is a quiet sort of afellow of whom I know little, he is not good looking,about the middle height. Saddler, his name is James, haslived in Adelaide where he gained money but has sincelost it, rather a superior sort of a man, middle height,slight & active, dark hair, pale complexion, high cheekbones, sharp ? eyes & not a strong voice.

(end of Journal page 5.)

Journal page 8. Descriptions of the “Tweendecks”which extend from the stern to the mainmast, below themain deck. Starboard side, 1st Birth is the Mates’ &Stewards’ right up over sloaping part of the stern, thencomes Budden’s birth which is a little dark cabin athwartships & is lighted from the steward’s by two holes cut inthe boards. Next Mr. Alsops, a family birth containinga Mr & Mrs with 7 children the eldest about 13. ThenDarvall & Hakes abode, they mess with Budden & sit atthe table opposite D & H’s door. Next is the water closetwhich is a stuffy place & pretty often a great nuisancefrom having slops etc continually passing by the doornext it, vessels being set down to wait, water comingthrough’ into the next birth and at night a continualblowing noise like that of a steam engine just setting off.Beyond this is the store room which is also a constantsource of trouble & annoyance to D & H as all the“Intermidiates” (sic) come past their birth to take theirseveral allowances & many of the things are weighed outexactly in front of their door at their table for instance acask of peas is brought forward & placed just by theirdoor & also one of flour, & maybe a can of preservedpotatoes, some of which get spilled and make a thoroughmess when mixed with the butter, raisins & sugar whichget strewed about.

This is not the only nuisance they are subject to, the wateris served out to the whole ships company at the after holdjust by them & the two empty water casks duly filled/tokeep the ship in trim) with salt water from the pumps ondeck, by a hose, which occasionally parts at the joinhalfway down, and the water spouts about over all thethings. And now whilst I am writing I have narrowlymissed a whack in the head with Spiers water keg (forwater is being served). Then when the ships (not thepassengers water) water is being hauled up in buckets byhand, if it at all rough we are deluged. You may imaginethe consequences of all these different messes, our placeis continually in a filthy state & however many times wesweep it, half an hour after, if it was only for the children,we should have it just as bad again, they make a mostoutrageously dreadful noise, playing at being sailors,squalls, sinking, taking to the boats, etc. imitating theorders of the captain the cries of the sailors when they arehauling at the ropes, they get even the particular cry ofeach sailor; we have now 3 babies in the intermediate &they all cry as much & as loud as they can & very often

at once & when the other children & making a horribledin without their aid. They have plays too, at feasts &fathers & mothers & schools etc., sometimes you mayhear “now Sammie dear pretend to cry & I’ll give you araisin” & he cries more than all the others togetherwithout any pretence crying.On the Larboard Side, thefirst sleeping place is Dr. Johnston who has no regularbed, but sleeps on sails or packages which are stowed upat the stern, then comes Woodford & Dewar’s birthwhich has lately been turned into a public smoking housewhere all who like come to sing, smoke & drink & playcards, the company generally consists of Woodford &Dewar, J & H Cooper, F Harper, Dr. Johnston, G & GSands sometimes Mr. Sands & some others, their sign isthe Pig & Whistle, which I painted for them, much totheir satisfaction, they were very anxious for me &Budden & Hake to join them but neither of us has doneso. The next birth is Miss’ Mander & Simpson’s, whohave their place very nicely done up with linen nailed allround & a place in the window made to let the sea thatcomes in down.One of the sailors Jim the good naturedScotchman attends on them constantly & gets their tea &coffee boiled & takes away all rubbish etc. stops ratholes, mends spoons & does anything for them that theycan’t do themselves. Next to them is a space left for awater closet-but not used as one, where boxes andbundles are put, that is just at the back of the companionstairs. Then comes George & Gustey’s Sands’ birth &next theirs & opposite mine is their daughters & servants,here is the sceen (sic) of all the paintings & on a sofa justbetween the birth & the cable box is constantly to bewitnessed a love sceen (sic) Mr O’Bryan & Miss Annetteare here almost all day.

Journal page 15. I have now been some time onshore & have to write from recollection & my journal.First you shall have a list of passengers & then an accountof the voyage if I can manage it. —

Cabin. Dr. Bunce & wife with his sister in law & 3children, next Mr. Powell his wife & 5 children 2 boys 2girls and a baby, then Mr. O’Brian, & last & least -Griffin.

Intermediate. Mr. Sands wife & family of 9 children &a servant, Eliza. Mr. Alsop wife & family of 7 children.Misses (spelt Mifses) Manders & Simpson about 27 & 28years, on the second shelf as the captain says but not quiteold maids yet, then Budden Hake & self & last Woodford& Dewar.

Steerage. Mr. Baker & family, Mr. Scott & family. MrsPaul & her sister. Mr & Mrs Meypsted, nicknamedBedstead, Mipstitch etc. etc. & an idiot girl of Mr. Sandswith them. Mr.Spiers wife & sister & 2 children. Mr. &Mrs Bill. Mr. Aston & family. Mrs Boydd & family.Tom Bungs or, Mr. Thomas Thwaits, the cooper. JohnCooper & Harry Do brothers. Fred’ Harper & AlfredGreen. The Second Mate & the Carpenter slept in thesteerage too.-”

No further pages of Alfred Darvall’s journal are available.

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Chapter 6.Jemima Scott’s Brother and His Family.

As mentioned earlier, on board the “Sir Charles Forbes” were“Mr. Baker wife and 5 children” Mr. Baker was Thomas CurtisBaker, Jemima Scott’s older brother, his wife was Mary Ann neeMarshall. The five children were:-

Maria born 21 November, 1830, at Nottingham by his first wifeMaria nee Dawson who died 8 August 1833 aged 27. Theother four by his second wife all born at Nottinghamwere:-

Thomas born 29 May, 1839.John born 21 May, 1841.Charles born 26 October, 1842.Sarah born c 1843.

A further son, William, was born on 10 January, 1851, atNorwood, South Australia.

Back view of above Church.

I was able to find the site of the church and the churchyard whereT.C., Maria and William are buried.

Maria, who will be mentioned later, remained unmarried. Shedied on 23 July, 1891, at South Rhine aged 60 years. Williamdied 11 December, 1870, aged 19 years.

The following is an extract from “Robert Mitchell of the Inland”by Rev. J. R. Fiddian - 1931, page 22:-

“There came the chance of attending the school kept bythe preachers daughter. Division of labour in the Bakerfamily was more than usually varied. The father filled thepulpit, the sons farmed, and the daughter, who was saidto be master of five languages, carried on school in aroom specially built, and, because of her efficiency,attracted scholars from all around. The scholars paid afee of one guinea per quarter. One girl walked six milesto attend. Robbie (Mitchell) was a scholar for a time, but,as from his tenth year onwards, he had to take his fullshare in the work of the farm, his attendance was mostlyat the night classes when the other children went. Eachday the Bible lesson had prize (sic) of place and emphasis,and the Sunday School at Zion chapel was a weekly joy.”

The Baker children except William and Maria married in SouthAustralia but descendants are spread throughout Australia. It ishoped that their history will be written by Mrs. Joy Baker whohas helped with my research. She lives at Wandoan in south-central New South Wales.

Thomas Curtis Baker and family remained in South Australiafarming at Mt Pleasant, Salt Creek near South Rhine, south ofthe Barossa Valley. A Baptist Church was formed at Salt Creekin 1862 and T.C. accepted a call to the pastorate. The first placeof worship was built of pine logs, but later on this building wasreplaced by a neat stone structure opened by Rev. GeorgeStonehouse in November, 1865, which remained untildemolished in 1936. Here T.C. remained in charge of the churchuntil his death in 1871.

Thomas Curtis Baker 1808 - 1871

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The Church yard at Salt Creek

Maria’s School 1988

The Baker Grave

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Chapter 7.W.P.’s Short Time in Adelaide and His Journey toMelbourne.

William Penford Scott after arrival in Adelaide met Rev. GeorgeStonehouse mentioned above at Salt Creek. He was Pastor at theNorth Adelaide Baptist Church (1847-1869). Mr. Stonehousewas aware that the Collins Street, Melbourne, Baptist Churchwas looking for a pastor so he wrote to Melbourne recommendingthat W.P. be invited as a supply for a short time. Mr. Stonehouseenclosed copies of testimonials regarding W.P. which werewritten by Ministers of standing in England and which “testifiedstrongly in his favour”. It would be very interesting to see thesebut they could not be found in the Collins Street archives.

In a publication held in the South Australian archives regardingministers of the North Adelaide Church, Rev. George Stonehouseis shown as born 1808 in Kent, England. A man of earnest pietyand scholarly attainment, he was a prominent Baptist minister inAdelaide and he had a somewhat similar experience there to thatof W.P. in Melbourne.

In Historical Notes to the North Adelaide Baptist ChurchSeventy Fifth Anniversary 1843-1923, the following appeared:-

“As far back as 1842 Baptists were worshipping in NorthAdelaide under the ministry of Mr. James Allen. In 1843,Ebeneeza Chapel was built on City Acre 726. In 1847 theChurch invited Rev. George Stonehouse, of Angaston, to becomeminister”.

On 8 may, 1848, a church was formed of the Particular Baptistdenomination and a group of people met under the chairmanshipof Mr. Stonehouse and appointed Moses Garlick, John Cox andEdward Walter Wicks as the first deacons, and Mr. Stonehouseas the first minister.

This meeting was held in Hindley Street, in the building wherethe Baptists first met for worship in 1839, three years after thesettlement of Adelaide - That early attempt to form a BaptistChurch ended in disunion and dissension. This new attemptarose because the Church then meeting in North Adelaide couldnot agree on the call to the Rev. Stonehouse and a number ofpeople determined on separate action. It was said in a publicationin 1948, that this new attempt was “crowned with the blessingof God and continued to His glory and celebrated its Centenary”.

In 1869, Rev. Stonehouse resigned through ill health and he diedin 1871.

On receiving the letter from Mr. Stonehouse the members of theCollins Street Church met on Friday 25 May, 1849, at a specialchurch meeting. The relevant minute reads:-

“Present: Brethren Pound Hooton E.Lush Born Taylor ThomsonYoung Ham Lush & Kerr. Sisters Barter & Pound.

The minutes of the last meeting were read & confirmed.Brother Lush read a letter which he had received fromRevd Mr Stonehouse of Adelaide in which it was statedthat the Revd W.P. Scott Baptist Minister had arrived at

that place from England and Mr Stonehouserecommended this church to invite Mr Scott as a supplyfor a short time. Copies of testimonials regarding MrScott which were forwarded by Mr Stonehouse wereread. These were written by Ministers of standing inEngland and testified strongly in Mr Scott’s favour.Brother Lush stated that in the event of the Churchinviting Mr Scott he would relieve them of theirengagement with him and not accept any remunerationfor the past of his engagement which might lapse previousto the arrival of Mr Scott as the funds would all berequired to pay for Mr Scott’s supply and his travellingexpenses. After some conversation it was unanimouslyagreed that Mr Scott be invited to supply this pulpit forthree months and be paid for such supply twenty fivepounds and travelling expenses.

(Confirmed) Robert Kerr.”

W.P. Scott on receiving notification from Collins Street left onhis own for Melbourne leaving Jemima and their children inAdelaide, as she was expecting another child. He left Adelaideon 23 June,1849, on board the Tasmanian built schooner“Souvenir”. She was of 64 tons, Captain J. Skey was the masterand her cargo consisted of:-20 bags Coffee, J.Stirling & Co. 3 kegs tobacco, 1 half tierceditto, 174 bags sugar, 5 casks blacking, G. Hall, transhippedfrom “Dorothy” - 10 hhds brandy, 5 do rum, G.W.Waterhouse,transhipped from “Royal Sovereign” - 1 cask earthenware, 1crate do., 1 case musical instruments, 1 case pictures, Hullick.(sic).

On leaving Adelaide the other passengers were- “ John Thomas,J.K. White, J. Bowden, S. Stewart, W.A. Stewart, J.Procter, J.Campbell, Mrs. J. Tugwood, Mrs Hollick and three sons, MrLovelock, Charles Hollins, James Campbell and George Davis.”

She came via Portland and arrived in Melbourne on 2 July, 1849,with passengers picked up there, namely; Captain and MrsIrving and two daughters and Dr Mitchell. Captain Irvingskippered the “Souvenir” on her return voyage to Adelaide.

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Chapter 8.W.P.’s Term “Supplying The Pulpit” at CollinsStreet and Jemima’s Journey to Melbourne.

The next we hear of W.P. was in the Collins Street Churchminutes of the meeting of Thursday 30 August, 1849, adjournedand carried forward to Monday 3 September, 1849:-

“Thursday 30 August, 1849 Monthly Meeting:-

Present: BrethrenVaughan Crook Taylor Mouritz Born Langlands Pound HootonAllen King Thomson Lush and Kerr. Sisters Langlands andPound.

Brother Lush also stated that as two months of Mr Scott’sengagement with the Church had expired it would be well for theBrethren to have some consultation regarding futurearrangements for the supply of the pulpit. After some conversationthe brethren were of opinion that if they invited Mr Scott for anyfuture period it would be necessary to pay him £150 per annum,in order to the comfortable support of his family and as the pewrents amounted to about £70 the members present engaged topay the following sums for the year commencing the firstOctober next, in addition to their pew rents in order to make upthe deficiency.

Charles Vaughan £20 T.A. Langlands £ 5John Lush 7 Miss Langlands 5T. Hale 2 I. Born 5G. A. Mouritz 5 I. Taylor 3A. Thomson 2 V. Crook 2J. Hooton 3 I. Pound 2Robert Kerr 15 C. H. King 2D. Allen 4 Total £82.0.0

It was then Moved by Brother VaughanSeconded by Brother Langlands

That the Revd. W.P. Scott be invited to take the pastoral chargeof this Church.

AmendmentMoved by Brother KerrSeconded by Brother Crook

That Mr Scott be invited to Supply this pulpit for twelve months.As the evening was now far advanced the meeting was adjournedtill next Monday evening at 8 O’clock.

John Lush.”

“Monday 3 September, 1849 Adjourned Meeting.

Present: BrethrenCrook Vaughan Taylor Mouritz Ham Langlands Hooton AllenHale Young Thomson Born Lewis Dickins Collins Lush andKerr. Sisters Born Pound and Langlands.

A lengthened conversation took place regarding the motion and

the amendment proposed at last meeting.On the matter being putto the Brethren these appeared

For the original motion 9For the amended motion 8Majority for the motion 1

The remaining three members present did not vote.

John Lush.”

These figures are confusing - actually W.P. was not given the“pastoral charge” of the church but was appointed to “supply thepulpit” for 12 months, i.e., his appointment was a temporary oneinstead of permanent.

This is the first hint that already some members of Collins Streetwere not in accord with W.P.’ s ministry. Brother The Hon.Vaughan and Brother Langlands moved that W.P. be given thepastoral charge of the Church, i.e., become its Pastor. Howevera group led by Brothers Kerr and Crook put an amendment thathe only be invited to supply the pulpit for twelve months. Aftermuch “conversation” and at an adjourned meeting the amendmentwas carried. The end result of this was that W.P. was never giventhe pastorate at Collins Street.

As I found early in my research his name does not appear on theHonour Board in the Church of previous Pastors. I thought thatthere was some mistake about him preaching at Collins Street.It was not until Miss Struss, the Pastor’s secretary, showed mehistories of the Church where his name appeared as the ministerin 1849-50 that I was able with some confidence to continue myresearch.

In the meantime Jemima gave birth on 30 July, 1849, to adaughter, Frances Jemima. Then on 1 November, 1849, Jemimaand her seven children together with “Miss Baker” left Adelaideon board the “Australia”. The “Australia” was a ‘ship’ of 534tons, Captain W. J. Chever was the master and she had comefrom Boston, U.S.A. to Adelaide. The other passengers fromAdelaide were Miss Allen and Mr. Sullivan. Her cargo included:-

“43 cases blue drilling, 29 bales brown ditto, 14 cases ticking, 10ditto denims, 30 cases striped shirting, 2 bales brown jeans, 2ditto bleached ditto, 10 bales brown sheeting, 300 kegs tobacco,24boxes ditto, 250 barrels pork, 325 ditto rosin, 300 ditto pitch, 200ditto tar, 200 ditto tar, 200 ditto coal tar, 45 ditto bright varnish,189 ditto dried apples, 40 ditto peaches, 47 ditto beans, 24 dittopease (sic), 40 ditto snuff, 267 ditto vinegar, 40 hogsheads and3 barrels rum, 8 hogsheads cheese, 40 half barrels and 40 kitsmacharel, 40 kegs lard, 50 ditto butter, 16 boxes fresh salmon,31 kegs pickled ditto, 35 kegs tongues, 1 crate mast hoops, 1ditto jib hanks, 25 casks potashes, 12 barrels clover seed, 6 dittotimothy seed, 150 barrels 5 tierces and 35 casks Carolina rice,101 cases brass clocks complete, 8 ditto looking glasses, 3 ironsafes, 252 cask nails, 120 boxes and 2 cases chocolate, 150boxes lemon syrup, 80 dozen hay rakes, 10 boxes axes, 3 dittohandles, 48 bales hops, 1 bundle shovels, 1 ditto spades, 2 scales,100 bolts duck, 880 oars, 30 cases stoves, 1 crate ironmongery,12 cases writing desks, 2 packages twine, 2 secretaries and tops,

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10 desks, 24 bureaus, 100 shook’d wash stands, 100 ditto toilettables, 142 chairs, 2 tables, 10 boxes sofas, 96 boxes chairs, 139dozen brooms, 14 boxes furniture, 240 nests tubes, 300 dozenpails, 21 boxes clothes pins, 40 dozen nests boxes, 30 dozennests covered pails, 40 willow cradles, 50 children’s chairs, 1box india rubber braces, 6 packages furniture, Capt. Chever.”

The “Australia” arrived in Melbourne on 14 November, 1849.As shown above Jemima was accompanied by Miss Baker andshe was also included in the list of members admitted to theCollins Street Church as shown in Minute Book No. 1:-

No How Received WhenRec Observations70 W.P.Scott By letter 29 Nov,1849 Withdrew Oct.185071 Mrs Scott “ “ “72 Miss Baker “ “ “

For some time I had assumed that Miss Baker was Maria, shewas Jemima’s niece who would have been 19 years old on 21November, 1849. She probably came to Melbourne with AuntJemima to help with the children who were then aged between3 1/2 months and 12 years.

She was confirmed as Maria when this book had been in draftform for some time. Prof. The Rev. Dr. Basil Browne produceda member’s roll kept by Rev. Isaac New. This roll must havebeen for his own use. The first were some of the members whofollowed W. P. to the Mechanics’ Institute when he left CollinsStreet in October 1850. (See Chapter 9) Here was recorded“Maria Baker” of South Australia as being admitted as amember on October 20, 1850. The roll was noted some time lateras “May be considered as unknown.”

Maria Baker 1830 - 1891

The date when and how she returned to Adelaide has not yetbeen found but Joy Baker says she was in Adelaide in 1851.

The 12 months while W.P. was filling the pulpit must have beenfrustrating for him with members evenly divided for and againsthis preaching. However, his moderate views did not accord withthe high Calvinism of many of the members of the church andit was resolved that he should not be invited to fill the still vacantpastorate. As a result of this decision it was determined by someof the most influential members of the congregation to form aseparate cause and 18 of them followed him to the Mechanics’Institute for services. On the first Sunday there, 20 October,1850, a new church was constituted which called W.P. to be itspastor. Just the same there was no break of fellowship with theCollins Street Church, which gave its blessing to the new causeand for some years afterwards the two congregations unitedregularly for missionary prayer meetings.

The minutes of the meetings at Collins Street on 21 August,1850, show how the members voted and just how close thevoting was, a majority of only one vote against W.P. being giventhe pastorate The relevant minutes are as follows:-

“Wednesday 21 August, 1850 Special Meeting.

Present: BrethrenLush Kerr Crook Langlands Pound Pitt Vaughan Wilson BornMouritz Allen Thomson King Creighton Helyan Ham SmithLewis Young Hooton and Graves. Sisters Pound Pitt LanglandsAllchin Graves Collins Vincent Jennings Proudy Taylor andKing.

This meeting was called for the purpose of considering thepropriety of inviting Mr Scott to be the Pastor of the Church.

Brother Kerr presided.

After Prayers had been offered for the influence of the HolySpirit to ? the Church in forebearance and love, Brother Lushmade a few observations stating his reasons for not recommendingthe Church to invite Mr Scott to the Pastorate and concluded bymoving: “That the connection between Mr Scott and this Churchceases at the expiration of his present engagement but that thisChurch do present to Mr Scott the sum of fifty pounds as a tokenof Christian esteem and sympathy.” Brother Mouritz secondedthis motion.

Brother Langlands then addressed the Brethren, and stronglyrecommended them to invite Mr. Scott, concluding by movingas an amendment that Mr Scott be elected the Pastor of thisChurch.

Brother Vaughan seconded the amendment.

A long discussion then ensured, in which a great number of thebrethren engaged and which was conducted in a very orderly andfriendly spirit. On a division being called for these appeared:

For the amendment 17For the original motion 18Majority for the motion 1

Six members did not vote.

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Some conversations then took placeregarding the future movement ofthose who were favourable to MrScott and those in the majority havingexpressed much willingness to assisttheir other Brethren in any way thatthey could, the meeting was closedwith Prayer.

Robert Kerr.”

As the following minutes of themeeting on 31 October, 1850, show,resignations from members of thechurch were received including W.P.,Jemima and Miss Baker and BrotherAllen. (Daniel Allen will come intothe Chandler history).

Daniel Allen

Whilst Daniel Allen resigned from Collins Street with W.P. andothers, he did not follow W.P. to the Mechanics’ Hall but to theBaptist Church meeting in Lonsdale Street under Pastor JohnTurner. Turner had come to Melbourne in early 1850 with thegroup of Baptists from Brighton, Sussex. This group includedStephen Chandler and his family, John being the eldest son. Apicture of Turner’s Church is shown above.

When my future Chandler grandmother, Ruth Harvey, arrivedin Melbourne as a young girl she lived with Daniel Allen andlater he married John and Ruth. I have the bible Daniel presentedto Ruth and it is inscribed:-

“Presented to Mrs J. Chandler on the day of her marriage By herPastor David Allen after three and a half residence in his housewith satisfaction and comfort, As a token of regard and esteem.Daniel Allen.”

Their first son, born 11 March, 1863, was named Daniel John.

Daniel Allen moved to Sydney in 1871 as the Pastor at theCastlereagh Street Baptist Church where he remained until hisdeath in 1891. Whilst there much correspondence was exchangedby Pastor Allen and John Chandler and many of their letters areincluded in the book by F. Beedel.

“Thursday 31 October, 1850 Monthly Meeting.

Present: BrethrenCollins Mouritz Born Hale Thomson Lush and Kerr. SistersLush Pound Isles Jennings Magee Frey and Born.

Minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed.

Daniel Allen is the only link that I have found between W.P. andmy grandfather, John Chandler, who was quite a militant Baptistas anyone reading his book would realise.

The following very brief history of Daniel Allen has been partlytaken from a book edited by F. Beedel in 1901.- “Letters andOther Writings of the Late Pastor Daniel Allen”. The bookcontains a “Memoir” by F. Beedel.

Daniel Allen arrived in Sydney, N.S.W., in 1845 but was onlythere for 11 weeks before going to Launceston, Van Diemen’sLand, when he joined Pastor B. Dowling’s Church, and wherehe was married. In 1848 he moved to Melbourne and the CollinsStreet Baptist Church, first under John Lush and then W.P.

Zion Particular Baptist Church, Lonsdale Street. 1850.

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The following communication was read:

“Melbourne, 16 October, 1850.

We the undersigned Members and Communicants having felt itto be our duty to withdraw from our brethren of the BaptistChurch assembling in Collins Street with whom we were latelyin Church fellowship for the purpose of uniting as a Churchunder the pastoral care of the Revd Mr Scott, hereby intimatethat we have ceased to be members of the said Church at thesame time beg to express our continued desire to keep the unityof the spirit in the bond of peace with them and with all who lovethe Lord Jesus Christ”. John Pitt Mary Pitt Mary Vincent JohnTaylor Mary Taylor John Hooton Eliza Hooton Geo Gouge MrsGouge H. Langlands Mrs Langlands Joseph Masters HannahMasters Charles Vaughan Richard Lewis Phebe Lewis ThomasHam.

This resignation was received.A letter was read from Brother Allen containing his resignationas a member of the Church, which was also received.

A letter from Revd W.P. Scott was also read containing hisresignation as a member together with those of Mrs Scott and

Miss Baker - received.

A letter of this date was received signed by Mr Scott, MrLanglands and Mr Born on behalf of the Church assembling (atpresent) in the Mechanics’ Hall. The letter contained the followingresolution “that as an expression of the friendly feelings weentertain towards our brethren whom we were recently inChurch Fellowship we would be happy (agreeable to them) tounite with them on the first Monday evening in each month in aprayer meeting for the spread of the Gospel and the conversionof Mankind to the faith of our common Lord and Saviour.The consideration of this communication was left over to thenext Monthly Meeting.

John Lush.”

Thursday 28 November, 1850 Monthly Meeting.

The second motion was that ‘the proposal from the Churchunder Mr Scott’s ministry to join this Church in the UnitedMonthly Missionary Prayer Meeting was acceded to and theDeacons were directed to invite Mr Scott and his friends to meetthis Church in the vestry once a month’.

Baptist Church, Collins Street, in 1865.

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The Secretary-Librarian of “The Melbourne Athenæum Inc.”,Miss Leila J. Winchcombe, gave permission for me to quote thefollowing brief history of the Athenæum which she compiled forme in 1986:-

“THE MELBOURNE ATHENÆUM”

“The Melbourne Athenæum is the oldest public institution inVictoria. It was established under its original title of “TheMelbourne Mechanics’ Institute and School of Arts” on the 12thNovember, 1839.

The germ of the idea can be traced to a meeting on the 14thFebruary 1839 when the settlers in Melbourne combined to forma Union Benefit Society. On the 4th October 1839 a few masterbuilders connected with the Union Benefit Society held ameeting under the Chairmanship of Mr. A. Sim and decided:-

“that a Mechanics’ Institute be formed for the promotion ofscience in this rising colony, particularly amongst the young, aswell as the operative classes, and that a public meeting for theformation of such an institution be held in the new Scots’Schoolroom on the first Tuesday in November at 7 o’clock,when all persons friendly to such an object are respectfullyinvited to attend”.

This first meeting on 5th November 1839 (Guy Fawkes Day)was poorly attended and was adjourned for a week.

On the 12th November 1839 at which the Melbourne Athenæumwas finally established was held in the Presbyterian Schoolhouse.The Resident Magistrate Captain Lonsdale who had beenappointed on the 9th September 1839 and had arrived inMelbourne on the 1st October was elected the first President.Mr. C.J. La Trobe was appointed Patron the Reverend JamesForbes, Secretary Mr. John Gardiner, Treasurer and Mr.Thomas Burns, Librarian. An entrance fee of £1 was fixed anda subscription of £1 a year agreed to. It was also decided that

“The Committee shall exclude all such works from the Libraryas contain polemical, divinity, or other matters which they maydeem objectionable”.

On 30th April 1840 it was decided that a deputation should waiton Mr. La Trobe, the Superintendent of Port Phillip , requestingassistance from the Government in aid of the Institution.

By 1840 the number of members was one hundred and fourteen.

Whilst waiting for the Government to assist in obtaining a homefor the Institution, a house was rented at the corner of Bourke andQueen Street. At this time a reply was received from Mr. LaTrobe that Sir George Gipps who had been appointed Governor“could not grant the application for an allotment of land onwhich to erect a Mechanics’ School of Arts, but that afterbuilding had commenced and the Committee, procuring aCertificate of their probable usefulness, His Excellency wouldgive a gratuity of £300".

The Committee unanimously declined this offer. On 13thAugust 1840 the present site was purchased at a Governmentland sale. Two blocks, extending from Collins Street back toLittle Collins Street, were bought for £285. A portion 66 x 155ft., was marked off for the Mechanics’ Institute, and theremainder (the block facing Little Collins Street, now occupied

Chapter 9.The Separation at Collins Street and W.P.’sMinistry at the Mechanics’ Institute.

Rev. Wilkin in his book “Baptists in Victoria - Our First Century1838-1938” remarks that:-

“at this distance (1939) of time we can scarcely realise the needfor separation. Both parties believed in the sovereignty of God,both believed that the salvation of man was due to the free graceof God, and the cause of separation was actually one of emphasison the doctrine of election rather than of difference of belief. Butwith this were combined views concerning the Second Comingand Reign of Jesus Christ, some being pre- and some post-Millennialists. Further, some held that only baptised believersshould partake of the Lords’ Supper, while others held that allbelievers should have the privilege. This was further complicatedby the question of Church membership, some arguing for a closeand some for an open fellowship.”

From the commencement of the new church on 20 October,1850, services were held in the lecture hall of the Mechanics’Institute a few doors down (west) from the Collins Street church.This is now the Melbourne Athenæum, 188 Collins Street,Melbourne.

The minute book of the Mechanics’ Institute dated 11 December,1850, reads.

“A motion was made by Mr King and seconded by Mr PatersonThat the use of the Lecture Hall be granted to Mr Scott formorning and evening service on Sundays for three months at therate of Twenty pounds per Annum but in the event of the Roombeing wanted for a Sunday School an extra charge of Ten poundsbe made as was done in the case of the Free Church while the hallwas rented to Mr Forbes.”

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by the Victoria Ltd.) was subsequently sold at a large profit.

On the 6th December 1842 a building was completed on the site.This was a substantial brick building of two storeys. In onecontemporary newspaper the building was described thus -

“The Hall of Arts is nearly complete and will be ready foroccupation in the course of a few days; the size, arrangements,and architectural proportions of the building will make it, whenfinished, the noblest edifice in the province”.

One of the earliest tenants of the Athenæum was the MelbourneCity Council who used the hall as its Council Chamber.

It is interesting to note that after the building was completedapplication had to be made to the Bench of Magistrates for anejectment order because the contractor had permitted hisworkmen and their families to live in the premises.

In April 1845 the first Government grant amounting to £150 wasreceived.

In 1845 the Committee gave notice to quit to the Town Councilbut the Council was unable to find suitable premises andremained a tenant until 1852 when the first Town Hall was built.

In 1851 there were four hundred and eighty-eight members. Bythis time the Government was giving an annual grant of £150and in 1851 it made a special grant of £5OO towards the erectionof the amphitheatre or lecture hall in the rear of the building.

In 1854 the Government placed on the estimates a further sumof £5OOO towards the building which was in fact paid in 1856.

In 1857 the annual grant of £150 was cancelled and thereafterthe Institution relied on its own resources.

On 1st July 1872 the foundation stone of the new hall was laidand the hall was opened by His Excellency, the GovernorViscount Canterbury on l9th November, 1872.

The Scots Church congregation was the first occupant of thenew hall.

On 10th February 1873 the Institution changed its name to theMelbourne Athenæum. At this stage the land was valued at £130a foot, a total of £8,580; the building at £8,420, a total of£17,000.

In September 1873 the Museum collection of the Museum waspresented to the National Museum.

In 1874 a movement to have the Library and Reading-Roomopen on Sunday was defeated by a close majority.

In 1877 membership had increased to one thousand six hundredand eighty-one.

On the 7th July 1886 the new buildings were completed andopened by His Excellency the Governor, Sir Henry Loch.

In 1910 the upper hall was transformed into an Art Gallery andsince that date the Athenæum has been the home of Art in thiscity. In the same year a biograph box was built and movingpictures were shown.

In 1910 the Government gave the Institution a licence for theperformance in its building of “any interlude, tragedy, opera,comedy, stage play, farce, burlesque, melodrama, pantomime,or any stage dancing, tumbling or feats of horsemanship”. It isinteresting to note that in 1922 when great alterations were madethe City Building Engineer informed the Institution that it couldnot build a theatre on the site. With this licence in its archives theInstitution is able to tell Mr. H.E. Morton the City BuildingEngineer that they did not wish to build a theatre but merely toalter one.

Towards the end of 1921 discussions took place between Mr.Frank Talbot and Mr. E.J. Carroll a leading picture exhibitor forthe leasing of the hall for theatre.

The new theatre was officially opened with the Repertory play“Dear Brutus” on 23rd December 1924. The whole proceedswent to the Melbourne Hospital.

The first theatre in Australia to produce talkies was the Athenæum.This was on 2nd February 1929.

On 5th March 1932 the Athenæum gave the lead to the Empire,being the first theatre in the world to give an all-Britishprogramme.

The Centenary of the Melbourne Athenæum was celebrated in1939 with the Institution the home of a flourishing library,theatre and art gallery.

The theatre lease was taken up by Hoyts in 1967 and reverted tolive theatre for one year in 1970 before going back to films.

In 1976 it became the home of the Melbourne Theatre Companywhere many successful plays were produced.

The Art Gallery being too large for modern standards at thattime, closed in 1970 and became the temporary home for TheTheosophical Society, reopening again as an experimental theatrein 1977.

The Library has continued on having its ups and downs in the-process. The advent of television made a great impact on readingand although membership fell it has continued to supply alibrary service to the people of Melbourne.

On 30th July 1981 the building was entered, as entry number501, in the State’s Register of Historic Buildings, thus ensuringthat it remains part of Melbourne’s history.”

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The Melbourne Athenæum is now 155 years old. In 1851 W.P. was listed in the Melbourne Directory as living at21 Russell Street South, a short walk to 188 Collins Street.

The Lindsay Family History (my wife’s) will include the Talbettswho operated a Family Grocery and Provision store at 134Russell Street from 1851. There can be no doubt that Jemimawould have been a customer and bought some of her provisionsat this shop shown below.

Mary and Letitia Talbett outside the shop at 134 Russell Street.

Mary Talbett in the Back Garden of her Shop c.1851

Mechanics’ Institute (Athenæum)

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Chapter 10.The Establishment of a New Church at AlbertStreet and W.P.’s Pastorate There.

W.P. preached at the Mechanics’ Institute for the next threeyears but during that time plans were made for a new church tobe built in Albert Street, East Melbourne. The congregation metregularly and then the following was recorded in “The Argus”of Thursday 24 February, 1853:-

“NEW BAPTIST CHAPEL - A meeting was held lastevening of the congregation of Baptists (who at thepresent time hold their weekly services in the MuseumRoom of the Mechanics’ Institution) at the Baptist Chapel,Collins Street, for the purpose of furthering the erectionof a new place of worship. Arrangements had been madefor the purchase of a site of ground near St Peter’sChurch, for this purpose, which will cost about £900.The whole of this sum has been raised”.

The erection of the new chapel, which cost £4000, proceeded,probably without an architect, and the builder is not known. Thebuilding was opened on 20 October, 1853, three years exactlyafter the first service at the Mechanics’ Institute. “The Argus” ofTuesday 25 October recorded:-

“BAPTIST CHAPEL - At its opening services inconnection with a place of worship at Albert Street nearSt Peter’s Church, the sum of £700 was raised towardsthe cost of erection. The building is finished with greatneatness and will hold about two hundred and fiftypersons. It is intended ultimately as a schoolroom,sufficient space being left in the front of the allotment fora larger and more commodious place of worship. Allservices were well attended, and a personal interestmanifested by the ministers and friends of otherdenominations.”

Contrary to the emphasis of the first “Argus” article, the chapelwas built on the site before the land was actually purchased. Anarea of land, including the chapel site, was originally granted bythe Government to a Mr. George Symons in May, 1852. The site;Lot 5 Albert Street, Parish of North Melbourne East, County ofBourke, Colony of Victoria, measured 100 X 250 links and wassold on 8 September, 1854, to the trustees of the church. Thedetailed title sets out the purchase sum as:-

“nine hundred and ninety pounds of Lawful British money inhand, well and truly paid by the said several parties to the nowmemorializing indenture of the third part to the said GeorgeSymons at or immediately before the sealing and delivery of thenow memorializing indenture. - - - Together with the said chapeland buildings now erected, on the said land and hereditainments.”(goods and chattels).

The title was undersigned by the thirteen church Trustees.

The Chapel built on the site was a simple rectangular brickstructure, about 28 feet by 48 feet, with a steep pitched truss roofand high gables, basically in a practical Gothic Revival form,and presumably with little ornament.

“The Argus” of 4 November, 1854, reported:-

“BAPTIST CHAPEL - Albert Street, Eastern Hill - Theanniversary of the opening of this place of worship wascelebrated by a tea meeting on Thursday evening. Theopportunity was taken to raise additional funds in aid ofthe Baptist cause. A considerable party sat down to tea at6 o’clock, and after the tables were cleared HenryLanglands read the financial statements of the year. TheRevs Messers Landells, Symonds, Dr Hewlett of Geelong,Townsend, Mr Blair and other gentlemen addressed themeeting, The Rev W.B.(sic) Scott, pastor of thecongregation, occupied the chair. A collection was made,which realised somewhere about £150, it was stated thatthis sum would fall far short of the amount required toextinguish the debt due to the treasurer.”

In 1851 Rev. Joseph Foy, a Baptist, came out from England andfirst settled in Collingwood during which time he occasionallypreached at the Collins Street Baptist Church for Mr Lush whotook W.P.’S place there, or he would preach at the Mechanics’Institute for W.P.. Later he moved to Kew and built a smallweatherboard house in a clearing in the midst of the forest! On10 April, 1853, Rev. Foy opened his home for worship and soonnumbers increased so much that the congregation overflowedthe house.

Land was purchased at the corner of Cotham Road and St John’sParade as a site for a baptist chapel and school, for the residenceof the minister, schoolmaster and teachers and for no otherpurpose whatsoever! The chapel was erected and the openingwas celebrated with a public meeting preceded by a tea meeting.This was Sunday 17 September, 1854, and the Rev. W.P. Scottconducted the morning and evening services to crowdedcongregations.

The First Church Building in St John’s Parade, Erectedin 1854, Enlarged in 1859.

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Chapter 11.William Penford Scott’s Death.

Rev. William Penford Scott continued to preach at Albert Streetuntil shortly before his untimely death on 7 April, 1856, in his48th year.

“The Age” of Tuesday 8 April,1856, reported:-

“The Rev. W.P. Scott - We regret to learn that the Rev.W.P. Scott, minister of the Baptist Chapel, Albert Street.Eastern Hill, has been seized with a very severe fit ofsickness, and now lies in a very precarious state.”

Then on Wednesday 9 April, 1856, the following appeared inboth “The Age” and “The Argus”:-

“DIED. On the 7th inst. at Yarraberg, near Hawthorn,after a brief but painful illness, the Rev. W.P. Scott, latepastor of the Baptist Church Albert Street, EastMelbourne, aged 47 years, very deeply regretted”.

The following obituary appeared in “The Age” on the sameday:-

“OBITUARY. - The Rev. W.P. Scott, whose seriousillness was mentioned in yesterday’s Age, expired about10 o’clock on Monday night at his residence nearRichmond Bridge. He had been nearly four years ministerof the Baptist Church worshipping in the Albert StreetChapel. Previous to the erection of that building thecongregation used to meet in the hall of the Mechanics’Institution, Collins Street. The funeral takes place thisafternoon.”

The death certificate reproduced below shows that W.P. died of“Mania Fever” which he suffered for 11 days. He died at RiverStreet, Yarra Berg, Richmond. One wonders what “ManiaFever” was, perhaps a brain tumour?

The name “Yarraberg” has been reintroduced and an article in“The Age” of 14 April, 1993, has this to say, inter alia:-

“This week construction begins on a new housingdevelopment that is the first big move in 20 years to haltthe loss of housing along the Yarra River. Thedevelopment, called Yarraberg after an early Germansettlement, is on the under-utilised section of riverbankbetween Victoria Street and Bridge Road inRichmond.The designer of the 29 units said the riverprovided the best potential for housing in Melbourne.An admirer of its “tranquil magic” he has also designedtwo multi-level timber houses on the riverbank inAlphington. Further up the riverbank, the old SEC (StateElectricity Commission) site in River Street is also beingrezoned by Richmond Council for housing.”

Today there are no residences in River Street, only factories andwarehouses. We don’t know when W.P. and family moved from21 Russell Street South to River Street. It was certainly furtherto walk from River Street.

The following is an extract from the account book of R.Lewis,Funeral Parlour, Johnston Street, Fitzroy, recorded as it appearedin the book. The Lewis family were Baptists and were greatfriends of the Chandlers and attended to the funeral of my fatherin 1950. Some Lewis men worked for D & W Chandler Ltd. inthe early 1900' s.

“1856 Mrs Scott £ s d

April 9 For the funeral Expensesof the late Rev W.P.Scott.a strong English Oak coffin 8 - -covered with black cloth mountedwith best regester furniter linedand bedded and seround. Graveextra depth and purchases of land8 feet by 8 feet on the Baptistground compartment. 11 - -For the use of Hearse andplumes. Best pall 7 - -hat bands and gloves returned 1 1 -

4 -15 Crapes & hat bands 2 - -14 Black kid gloves 2 19 61 of cotton do not returned6 advertisements 6 -and attendances 1 - -

__________Settled £34 4 - (sic)

The grave is in the Baptist B section of the Melbourne GeneralCemetery, grave No. 660 and according to cemetery records thefollowing other members of the family are interred therein:-

William Penford Scott 47 years 09.04.1856Frances A. Scott 2 years 24.11.1874Jemima Scott 68 years 19.08.1878Frances E. Burges 88 years 26.08.1893*Francis Scott 81 years 09.07.1919Edith Scott 46 years 23.08.1919William Scott 82 years 30.09.1922*(Frances Sabina Scott nee Burges.)

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However, the headstone, a photo of which is shown above, isinscribed as follows:-

TO THE MEMORYof

Revd William Penford SCOTTLate Pastor of the

Baptist Church Albert StreetMelbourne

Whose Amiable Spirit Endeared Him to Manyand the Purity of whose Life

Corresponded to the Doctrines he taughtHe was Born

At Gosport in Hampshire EnglandSeptember 20th 1808

and Died at MelbourneApril 7th 1856

“The Memory of the Just is Blessed”Also His Beloved Wife

JEMIMAWho Died August 16th 1878 Aged 68 Years

AlsoFrances Alice Jemima

The Beloved Daughter ofWilliam & Frances SCOTT

Who Died Nov 23 1874 Aged 2 Years & 10 MonthsAlso

Frances Wife of William SCOTTDied 8th July 1919

Also EDITH Daughter of the AboveDied 22nd August 1919"

The headstone inscription does not include Frances ElizabethBURGES, mother of Frances Sabina SCOTT or William SCOTT.

Several obituaries and notices of death appeared in EnglishBaptist publications. Some examples are:- Baptist Magazine of 1856. :-

“Rev W.P. Scott

Died on the seventh of April, at Yarraberg, near Hawthorn, aftera brief but painful illness, the Rev. W.P.Scott, late pastor of theBaptist Church, Albert Street, East Melbourne, aged forty-seven years very deeply regretted.”

The following obituary was written by the Rev. A. M. Ramsayin Melbourne.

“Recent Death.

Rev. W.P.Scott of Melbourne

This amiable and faithful servant of the Lord departed this lifeon the evening of Tuesday, the 8th of April 1856, in the 48th yearof his age, having been born on the 20th of September, 1808. Hisnative place was Gosport, in Hampshire, England. He was bornof pious parents, and early led to the house of God.

He was baptized, and admitted into church fellowship by theRev. Isaac Mann, pastor of the baptist church, Maze Pond,London. While a member of that church, he was engaged as asabbath - school teacher, and having an ardent desire for thework of the Christian ministry, was sent by the church to HortonCollege, near Bradford, in Yorkshire. After prosecuting hisstudies at that place for a period of three years, he received aninvitation, and was settled over the baptist church in Colne,Lancashire. There he laboured for five years. From Colne, hewas removed to Loughborough, in Leicestershire, where helaboured a period of seven years. In both of these spheres heprosecuted the work of the ministry with much diligence, andnot without success. He was honoured of the Lord in theconversion of sinners, and in the edification of such as had trulybelieved through grace.

Mr. Scott arrived in these colonies in April, 1849. After a briefstay in South Australia, he came over to this colony. This was inJune of the same year. His first labours amongst us were inconnection with the baptist church, Collins Street, Melbourne,which at the time was destitute of the services of a fixed pastor.After the lapse of two or three months, Mr. Scott was invited tothe pastorate of that church, and laboured amongst them fortwelve months. At the expiration of that term circumstances,which we need not here detail, led to the dissolution of hisconnection with that congregation. At this time Mr. Scott wasvisited with an appalling affliction. For several weeks he labouredunder mental aberration, during which the anguish and agony ofhis spirit was intense and dreadful. Much prayer, however, wasoffered up by the Lord’s people on his behalf, and some whocould more particularly appreciate his work, were assiduous intheir attention to him, waiting upon him night and day; and bythe blessing of God on the means that were used, Mr. Scott wasat length restored to perfect soundness of mind, and enabled toresume his ministerial labours. Subsequent on this affliction,and for a period of three years, Mr. Scott officiated in theMechanics’ Institution, ministering to the minority, who were

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affectionately attached to him, and who wished to retain hisservices. While worshipping in this place, the congregationgreatly increased. and on the 16th of October, 1853, they wereenabled to enter into their neat and commodious place ofworship in Albert Street. This edifice, which was erected whenlabour was at its highest in this colony, and the very site ofwhich, though not more than one rood, cost £1000, must everstand as a noble monument of Christian liberality, and also ofdevoted attachment on the part of a small Christian congregationto an humble, godly, and faithful pastor. Here Mr. Scott laboured,and ofttimes in much weakness both of body and spirit, till hisdivine Master summoned him away to his bright reward in therealms of rest and glory.

His last service was on Sabbath, March 23rd. On that day heofficiated morning and evening. Other two Sabbaths had scarcelypassed over him, when he entered on his Sabbath of eternalrest.The last text from which he preached was Psalm lxxiv. 22,“Arise, O God, and plead thine own cause!”

In his last illness, as on a former occasion, his mind was muchaffected. He was conscious and sensible, however, at intervals,and at such times was heard to utter expressions which satisfiedhis friends that he was peaceful and happy. On one occasion, toa female friend, he said, “I believe, I do believe. Lamb of God!Salvation by Christ, free, full salvation.” The last words he washeard to utter were these, “Come, Lord Jesus, come quickly.”

Mr. Scott has left to the sympathy of the Christian Church, andthe care of that God whom he served in the gospel of his Son, awidow and seven of a young family. To the Judge of the widow,and the Father of the fatherless let them be often and devoutlycommended; surely the Lord will be their stay, and their shield:“Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.”

In the family the deceased was grave, judicious, affectionate,and tender. In the pulpit he was instructive, earnest, andspiritual; and on the platform he pled with sound argumentationand unaffected zeal. With Mr. Scott there was no vapouring ordisplay. His zeal in any good cause showed itself at the board,as well as on the platform. And in all his labours in connectionwith the cause of Christ, or of the common weal, there was amarked sense of propriety. He was quiet and unobtrusive, yetearnest and attentive to the business in hand.

The various evangelical and charitable institutions of the cityhave lost in Mr. Scott a valuable counsellor andsupporter.Whether the Christian enterprise of the day took thedirection of the evangelisation of the city by special agents, orthe removal of the foul stain of intemperance, or the sanctificationof the sabbath, or the advancement of the cause of civil andreligious freedom, or the conversion of the vast emigration thathas set into our shores from the land of Sinim, and other islandsafar off, or the alleviation of the wants and sorrows of theemigrant population from the land of our fathers-the enterprisehad ever his warmest sympathy, and in most instances his activeco-operation. While his spirit has instinctively fled to the realmsof love, his bones have been devoutly laid in that peaceful valley“Where the wicked cease from troubling, and the weary are atrest.”

A.M. Ramsay.

This was written by Rev. Andrew Mitchell Ramsay of theUnited Presbyterian Church, 96 Collins Street East, Melbourne.He also married David Bowden and Matilda Talbett on 29October, 1850, at the Episcopal Church, Melbourne. They werethe great grandparents of my wife, Gwendoline Stewart Chandlernee Lindsay.

The following brief history of Rev. A. M. Ramsay was preparedfor me by Rev. Dr. Gordon Powell.

“The Rev. Andrew Mitchell RAMSAY was born on 5 March,1809 at Shettleston, near Glasgow, Scotland, son of RobertRamsay and his wife Margaret, nee Mitchell. With distinctionsin classics, philosophy and science at the University of Glasgowin 1825, he entered the Theological Hall of Relief Church in1828. Licensed by the Relief Presbytery of Glasgow in 1832, hewas ordained as minister of Allars Relief Church, Hawick, on 29May, 1833. He resigned on 17 February, 1846. Religiousrevivals had followed services he conducted in 1839 at Denholmnear Hawick. In 1840 he married Isabella Milne of Hull,Yorkshire, England. He resigned from Hawick in 1846.

Rev. Ramsay reached Melbourne in the “Anne Milne” on 4January, 1847 with his wife and two children, a son having diedon the voyage. Within a month a meeting of Presbyterians askedRamsay to form a congregation in Melbourne “unconnectedwith the state”. He supplied the pulpit of the Scots Church,Melbourne, from March to May, 1847 but soon began his ownservices in Little Collins Street, later in the Temperance Hall,Russell Street, and at the end of 1848 in the Protestant Hall inExhibition Street. On 22 January, 1850 with three other ministershe formed the Synod of the United Presbyterian Church ofVictoria. He obtained ministers from Scotland and helped tofound at least a dozen congregations in the 1850’s. St Enoch’swas built for his congregation in Collins Street and opened on 30March, 1851. In April, 1855 Rev. James Ballantyne wasinducted as Ramsay’s colleague but by August 1856 disputesbetween them left Ramsay on his own with a depleted flock. Inthe ensuing controversy in the United Presbyterian Church twobreakaway groups were formed in 1856 and 1857. Ramsaywent overseas in April, 1858 seeking replacements and returnedin February 1859. His Synod was again disrupted in April whenhe and two other ministers refused to be parties to the union thatresulted in the Presbyterian Church of Victoria. The UnitedPresbyterian Church was received into the united body in 1870.

Rev. Ramsay sought to build up a denomination of voluntariesand to combat all forms of state aid. He was the power behind theSociety for the Repeal of the Fifty-third Clause of the newConstitution, launched in November 1855, and was prominentat every voluntary meeting in the mid-1850s. In 1856 hepublished a pamphlet, “How the Money Goes”. An able organizer,he was often so occupied that it was ‘with the greatest difficultythat he could command sufficient time for study and pulpitpreparation’. Short, with a pale and thoughtful face, he was nota ‘popular’ preacher but could rise to heights of oratory and,

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according to Garryowen (Edmund Finn), “You could not soonforget the speaker, so intense was his earnestness and sothoroughly did he throw himself into his subject”. Thoughpugnacious, he was also disinterested, generous and unselfish.He was regarded as having been an eloquent preacher and wasthe author of “The Voice of the Storm”.

Survived by his wife, his son Robert, another son and a daughter,Rev. Ramsay died of a stroke on 31 December, 1869 and he wasburied on the 4 January, 1870, in the Melbourne GeneralCemetery.”

This was the man who wrote and sent to England W. P. Scott’sobituary.

“The Freeman” - 20 August, 1856.

Baptists in Australia. (From our own Correspondent) Melbourne, 14th May, 1856

“The departure from this port for Liverpool of the celebratedsteam-clipper “Royal Charter”, which performed the outwardvoyage under disadvantageous circumstances in 59 days, presentsa favourable opportunity for transmitting some general particularsof the political and social condition of Victoria, and also toconvey to the readers of The Freeman information respectingthe state of religion in this part of the world, especially asprofessed by Christians of the Baptist name.

Pending the election of members to serve in the two houses ofour Colonial Parliament-the Legislative Council and LegislativeAssembly under the new constitution-there is no political activity,beyond the avowal of opinions, and advocacy of particularinterests, by aspirants to the honour of sitting in the first purelyrepresentative legislature of this colony, to meet some time inSeptember or October next, From the addresses already putforth, and the public reception of different candidates, it isevident that the principles most demanded are of a sound andprogressive nature. Foremost among the questions which willbe discussed at the ensuing elections is the continuance of “stateaid for religion.” The new constitution provides that £50,000per annum shall be appropriated for the support of religion, to bedivided among several Christian denominations. This sum istotally inadequate to confer any valuable benefit even upon thechurches willing to participate in the grant, while it will keepalive a spirit of sectarian discord, and give occasion for perpetualfeuds and controversies. I do not doubt, however, that a majorityof our popular legislators will be found to oppose the expenditureof any public funds for religious purposes, and that the authorityI have alluded to will, at an early date, be effectually revoked.The Roman Catholics are, of course, alarmed at the anticipationof their share of the spoil being withdrawn, and endeavour, bya very specious kind of reasoning, to show that the payment ofthis money is perfectly just and proper; but the argument iseasily refuted, as the system of state support to religion inVictoria is assuredly doomed.

The social aspect of our community is (by comparison)satisfactory and hopeful. The gold fields are yielding no lack of

the glittering treasure, trade is active, skilled labour of everykind is in full demand and liberally paid, the necessaries of lifeare abundant and moderate in price, and all classes enjoy a gooddegree of worldly prosperity. Cases of distress sometimes aremet, but in general they arise from the removal of the head of afamily or the incapacity of individuals to perform useful labour.We have been inundated with clerks, and others of no trade orspecial occupation, and without the bodily strength needful toundergo manual exertion-hence the poverty and wretchednessso often depicted; but for the industrious agriculturist, tradesman,or mechanic, there is every reasonable prospect of success.

From statements which occasionally appear in the Englishpress, it would seem that many persons “at home” entertain falsenotions regarding the position and character of this place.Sometimes Melbourne is ignorantly described as being in SouthAustralia, at other times said to be in New South Wales, and avariety of such blunders are published to our amusement. Few,however, even of those who have attained so much geographicalknowledge as to be aware that Melbourne is the metropolis ofVictoria, have a just conception of the character and appearanceof that city. The rapidity with which it has grown to its presentdimensions and stateliness is without a parallel in the history ofthe world, and speaks highly for the industry and enterprise ofour limited population. Noble edifices adorn our well-formed,well-paved streets; institutions of varied design have beenreared, including a university, public library, national schools,mechanics’ institutes, asylums, hospitals, etc., societies for theadvancement of science and promotion of morality areestablished; and when railways to the interior and othercontemplated public works have been constructed, Victoria,with its wonderful resources and energetic people, will speedilyrise to the dignity of a powerful commonwealth.

The tone recently adopted by some English religious magazinesI have seen, appears to indicate that Christianity has lost muchof its vitality among the home churches; it will not, therefore, bedeemed surprising that, in a new country like this, where thereare fewer incentives to the cultivation of goodness, and strongertendencies to the pursuit of this world’s good, the state ofreligion is discouraging and sad. As the “form of godliness”does not usually interfere with “business,” or the favouredobjects of men, this is to a considerable extent observed, and onthe Sabbath our churches are for the most part well attended; butthere is a lamentable want of that earnestness and vigour whichought to characterize every community of Christians, and theabsence of pious zeal toward the furtherance of Gospel truth is,in numerous instances, unmistakably obvious. TheEpiscopalians, Presbyterians, Wesleyans, and Independents haveall able and devoted ministers, but deadness and discouragementis, in some measure, the experience of most of them. A revivalis greatly needed and earnestly desired.

My purpose is to speak particularly of the Baptists, and trulytheir present position is pitiable. Not regarding sundry smallparties of Baptists who meet together for worship in differentlocalities, there are but two recognized Baptist churches in ornear Melbourne.The first of these has been without a Pastor fora considerable period, and as a result a parlour of tolerable sizewould now contain the entire congregation. As a dernier resort

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they have, I believe, by this mail forwarded an appeal to theirbrethren in England for some competent minister to come andresuscitate their dissolving members. The readers of TheFreeman will, I doubt not, see this document, so I need notfurther remark upon it.The other church (which is encumberedwith a heavy debt), was until lately presided over by the Rev.W.P. Scott, a man whose goodness and unaffected zeal obtainedfor him the love of his people and Christians of every name. Onthe 7th April last, death removed him from the scene of hislabours, and while the bereaved church mourn his loss, theymourn not for him, having the firm assurance that he has enteredupon the enjoyment of a heavenly reward. The few Baptistministers in Australia being either permanently settled orineligible for appointment, this church must now linger ondependent for the preaching of the Gospel on two or three of itsown members, or ministers of other denominations, until somequalified preacher shall, from a distance, take pity on them andproffer his services. According to the census returns taken in1854, the number of Baptists in Victoria was computed at 4727.It is very certain that the number now resident in this provinceis considerably beyond that stated, and yet there is but oneBaptist minister throughout this whole colony (the Rev. -Hewlett, a very excellent old gentleman), and he is comfortablyfixed at Geelong. I have heard of two or three very small flockswho call themselves Baptists, each presided over by a leader ofintensely strong Calvanistic notions; but as they are utterlyunknown beyond their own narrow precincts, I am unable to sayanything about them, nor can I recognise them as churches of thefree and enlightened Baptist denominations.

The condition of Baptists resident in the populated countrydistricts may be inferred from what I have stated regarding themetropolitan churches, and the facts thus mentioned of them-selves show how sadly we need assistance from England but itshould be borne in mind by any minister who may contemplatea transfer to this colony, that in order to establish our denominationupon anything like a creditable footing, many difficulties mustnecessarily be encountered, and that only men of superiorqualifications and a true missionary spirit are likely to succeed.I do not doubt there are many such who will read thiscommunication, and who have but to be assured of our necessity,to consider seriously and promptly, how far they may and oughtto promote the interests of religion in this distant land.”

Following the death of W.P. a collection was taken up on 27April, 1856, at the Collins Street Church and as recorded in theminutes, £27. 17. 6 was sent to his widow.

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Chapter 11.William Penford Scott’s Death.

Rev. William Penford Scott continued to preach at Albert Streetuntil shortly before his untimely death on 7 April, 1856, in his48th year.

“The Age” of Tuesday 8 April,1856, reported:-

“The Rev. W.P. Scott - We regret to learn that the Rev.W.P. Scott, minister of the Baptist Chapel, Albert Street.Eastern Hill, has been seized with a very severe fit ofsickness, and now lies in a very precarious state.”

Then on Wednesday 9 April, 1856, the following appeared inboth “The Age” and “The Argus”:-

“DIED. On the 7th inst. at Yarraberg, near Hawthorn,after a brief but painful illness, the Rev. W.P. Scott, latepastor of the Baptist Church Albert Street, EastMelbourne, aged 47 years, very deeply regretted”.

The following obituary appeared in “The Age” on the sameday:-

“OBITUARY. - The Rev. W.P. Scott, whose seriousillness was mentioned in yesterday’s Age, expired about10 o’clock on Monday night at his residence nearRichmond Bridge. He had been nearly four years ministerof the Baptist Church worshipping in the Albert StreetChapel. Previous to the erection of that building thecongregation used to meet in the hall of the Mechanics’Institution, Collins Street. The funeral takes place thisafternoon.”

The death certificate reproduced below shows that W.P. died of“Mania Fever” which he suffered for 11 days. He died at RiverStreet, Yarra Berg, Richmond. One wonders what “ManiaFever” was, perhaps a brain tumour?

The name “Yarraberg” has been reintroduced and an article in“The Age” of 14 April, 1993, has this to say, inter alia:-

“This week construction begins on a new housingdevelopment that is the first big move in 20 years to haltthe loss of housing along the Yarra River. Thedevelopment, called Yarraberg after an early Germansettlement, is on the under-utilised section of riverbankbetween Victoria Street and Bridge Road inRichmond.The designer of the 29 units said the riverprovided the best potential for housing in Melbourne.An admirer of its “tranquil magic” he has also designedtwo multi-level timber houses on the riverbank inAlphington. Further up the riverbank, the old SEC (StateElectricity Commission) site in River Street is also beingrezoned by Richmond Council for housing.”

Today there are no residences in River Street, only factories andwarehouses. We don’t know when W.P. and family moved from21 Russell Street South to River Street. It was certainly furtherto walk from River Street.

The following is an extract from the account book of R.Lewis,Funeral Parlour, Johnston Street, Fitzroy, recorded as it appearedin the book. The Lewis family were Baptists and were greatfriends of the Chandlers and attended to the funeral of my fatherin 1950. Some Lewis men worked for D & W Chandler Ltd. inthe early 1900' s.

“1856 Mrs Scott £ s d

April 9 For the funeral Expensesof the late Rev W.P.Scott.a strong English Oak coffin 8 - -covered with black cloth mountedwith best regester furniter linedand bedded and seround. Graveextra depth and purchases of land8 feet by 8 feet on the Baptistground compartment. 11 - -For the use of Hearse andplumes. Best pall 7 - -hat bands and gloves returned 1 1 -

4 -15 Crapes & hat bands 2 - -14 Black kid gloves 2 19 61 of cotton do not returned6 advertisements 6 -and attendances 1 - -

__________Settled £34 4 - (sic)

The grave is in the Baptist B section of the Melbourne GeneralCemetery, grave No. 660 and according to cemetery records thefollowing other members of the family are interred therein:-

William Penford Scott 47 years 09.04.1856Frances A. Scott 2 years 24.11.1874Jemima Scott 68 years 19.08.1878Frances E. Burges 88 years 26.08.1893*Francis Scott 81 years 09.07.1919Edith Scott 46 years 23.08.1919William Scott 82 years 30.09.1922*(Frances Sabina Scott nee Burges.)

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However, the headstone, a photo of which is shown above, isinscribed as follows:-

TO THE MEMORYof

Revd William Penford SCOTTLate Pastor of the

Baptist Church Albert StreetMelbourne

Whose Amiable Spirit Endeared Him to Manyand the Purity of whose Life

Corresponded to the Doctrines he taughtHe was Born

At Gosport in Hampshire EnglandSeptember 20th 1808

and Died at MelbourneApril 7th 1856

“The Memory of the Just is Blessed”Also His Beloved Wife

JEMIMAWho Died August 16th 1878 Aged 68 Years

AlsoFrances Alice Jemima

The Beloved Daughter ofWilliam & Frances SCOTT

Who Died Nov 23 1874 Aged 2 Years & 10 MonthsAlso

Frances Wife of William SCOTTDied 8th July 1919

Also EDITH Daughter of the AboveDied 22nd August 1919"

The headstone inscription does not include Frances ElizabethBURGES, mother of Frances Sabina SCOTT or William SCOTT.

Several obituaries and notices of death appeared in EnglishBaptist publications. Some examples are:- Baptist Magazine of 1856. :-

“Rev W.P. Scott

Died on the seventh of April, at Yarraberg, near Hawthorn, aftera brief but painful illness, the Rev. W.P.Scott, late pastor of theBaptist Church, Albert Street, East Melbourne, aged forty-seven years very deeply regretted.”

The following obituary was written by the Rev. A. M. Ramsayin Melbourne.

“Recent Death.

Rev. W.P.Scott of Melbourne

This amiable and faithful servant of the Lord departed this lifeon the evening of Tuesday, the 8th of April 1856, in the 48th yearof his age, having been born on the 20th of September, 1808. Hisnative place was Gosport, in Hampshire, England. He was bornof pious parents, and early led to the house of God.

He was baptized, and admitted into church fellowship by theRev. Isaac Mann, pastor of the baptist church, Maze Pond,London. While a member of that church, he was engaged as asabbath - school teacher, and having an ardent desire for thework of the Christian ministry, was sent by the church to HortonCollege, near Bradford, in Yorkshire. After prosecuting hisstudies at that place for a period of three years, he received aninvitation, and was settled over the baptist church in Colne,Lancashire. There he laboured for five years. From Colne, hewas removed to Loughborough, in Leicestershire, where helaboured a period of seven years. In both of these spheres heprosecuted the work of the ministry with much diligence, andnot without success. He was honoured of the Lord in theconversion of sinners, and in the edification of such as had trulybelieved through grace.

Mr. Scott arrived in these colonies in April, 1849. After a briefstay in South Australia, he came over to this colony. This was inJune of the same year. His first labours amongst us were inconnection with the baptist church, Collins Street, Melbourne,which at the time was destitute of the services of a fixed pastor.After the lapse of two or three months, Mr. Scott was invited tothe pastorate of that church, and laboured amongst them fortwelve months. At the expiration of that term circumstances,which we need not here detail, led to the dissolution of hisconnection with that congregation. At this time Mr. Scott wasvisited with an appalling affliction. For several weeks he labouredunder mental aberration, during which the anguish and agony ofhis spirit was intense and dreadful. Much prayer, however, wasoffered up by the Lord’s people on his behalf, and some whocould more particularly appreciate his work, were assiduous intheir attention to him, waiting upon him night and day; and bythe blessing of God on the means that were used, Mr. Scott wasat length restored to perfect soundness of mind, and enabled toresume his ministerial labours. Subsequent on this affliction,and for a period of three years, Mr. Scott officiated in theMechanics’ Institution, ministering to the minority, who were

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affectionately attached to him, and who wished to retain hisservices. While worshipping in this place, the congregationgreatly increased. and on the 16th of October, 1853, they wereenabled to enter into their neat and commodious place ofworship in Albert Street. This edifice, which was erected whenlabour was at its highest in this colony, and the very site ofwhich, though not more than one rood, cost £1000, must everstand as a noble monument of Christian liberality, and also ofdevoted attachment on the part of a small Christian congregationto an humble, godly, and faithful pastor. Here Mr. Scott laboured,and ofttimes in much weakness both of body and spirit, till hisdivine Master summoned him away to his bright reward in therealms of rest and glory.

His last service was on Sabbath, March 23rd. On that day heofficiated morning and evening. Other two Sabbaths had scarcelypassed over him, when he entered on his Sabbath of eternalrest.The last text from which he preached was Psalm lxxiv. 22,“Arise, O God, and plead thine own cause!”

In his last illness, as on a former occasion, his mind was muchaffected. He was conscious and sensible, however, at intervals,and at such times was heard to utter expressions which satisfiedhis friends that he was peaceful and happy. On one occasion, toa female friend, he said, “I believe, I do believe. Lamb of God!Salvation by Christ, free, full salvation.” The last words he washeard to utter were these, “Come, Lord Jesus, come quickly.”

Mr. Scott has left to the sympathy of the Christian Church, andthe care of that God whom he served in the gospel of his Son, awidow and seven of a young family. To the Judge of the widow,and the Father of the fatherless let them be often and devoutlycommended; surely the Lord will be their stay, and their shield:“Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.”

In the family the deceased was grave, judicious, affectionate,and tender. In the pulpit he was instructive, earnest, andspiritual; and on the platform he pled with sound argumentationand unaffected zeal. With Mr. Scott there was no vapouring ordisplay. His zeal in any good cause showed itself at the board,as well as on the platform. And in all his labours in connectionwith the cause of Christ, or of the common weal, there was amarked sense of propriety. He was quiet and unobtrusive, yetearnest and attentive to the business in hand.

The various evangelical and charitable institutions of the cityhave lost in Mr. Scott a valuable counsellor andsupporter.Whether the Christian enterprise of the day took thedirection of the evangelisation of the city by special agents, orthe removal of the foul stain of intemperance, or the sanctificationof the sabbath, or the advancement of the cause of civil andreligious freedom, or the conversion of the vast emigration thathas set into our shores from the land of Sinim, and other islandsafar off, or the alleviation of the wants and sorrows of theemigrant population from the land of our fathers-the enterprisehad ever his warmest sympathy, and in most instances his activeco-operation. While his spirit has instinctively fled to the realmsof love, his bones have been devoutly laid in that peaceful valley“Where the wicked cease from troubling, and the weary are atrest.”

A.M. Ramsay.

This was written by Rev. Andrew Mitchell Ramsay of theUnited Presbyterian Church, 96 Collins Street East, Melbourne.He also married David Bowden and Matilda Talbett on 29October, 1850, at the Episcopal Church, Melbourne. They werethe great grandparents of my wife, Gwendoline Stewart Chandlernee Lindsay.

The following brief history of Rev. A. M. Ramsay was preparedfor me by Rev. Dr. Gordon Powell.

“The Rev. Andrew Mitchell RAMSAY was born on 5 March,1809 at Shettleston, near Glasgow, Scotland, son of RobertRamsay and his wife Margaret, nee Mitchell. With distinctionsin classics, philosophy and science at the University of Glasgowin 1825, he entered the Theological Hall of Relief Church in1828. Licensed by the Relief Presbytery of Glasgow in 1832, hewas ordained as minister of Allars Relief Church, Hawick, on 29May, 1833. He resigned on 17 February, 1846. Religiousrevivals had followed services he conducted in 1839 at Denholmnear Hawick. In 1840 he married Isabella Milne of Hull,Yorkshire, England. He resigned from Hawick in 1846.

Rev. Ramsay reached Melbourne in the “Anne Milne” on 4January, 1847 with his wife and two children, a son having diedon the voyage. Within a month a meeting of Presbyterians askedRamsay to form a congregation in Melbourne “unconnectedwith the state”. He supplied the pulpit of the Scots Church,Melbourne, from March to May, 1847 but soon began his ownservices in Little Collins Street, later in the Temperance Hall,Russell Street, and at the end of 1848 in the Protestant Hall inExhibition Street. On 22 January, 1850 with three other ministershe formed the Synod of the United Presbyterian Church ofVictoria. He obtained ministers from Scotland and helped tofound at least a dozen congregations in the 1850’s. St Enoch’swas built for his congregation in Collins Street and opened on 30March, 1851. In April, 1855 Rev. James Ballantyne wasinducted as Ramsay’s colleague but by August 1856 disputesbetween them left Ramsay on his own with a depleted flock. Inthe ensuing controversy in the United Presbyterian Church twobreakaway groups were formed in 1856 and 1857. Ramsaywent overseas in April, 1858 seeking replacements and returnedin February 1859. His Synod was again disrupted in April whenhe and two other ministers refused to be parties to the union thatresulted in the Presbyterian Church of Victoria. The UnitedPresbyterian Church was received into the united body in 1870.

Rev. Ramsay sought to build up a denomination of voluntariesand to combat all forms of state aid. He was the power behind theSociety for the Repeal of the Fifty-third Clause of the newConstitution, launched in November 1855, and was prominentat every voluntary meeting in the mid-1850s. In 1856 hepublished a pamphlet, “How the Money Goes”. An able organizer,he was often so occupied that it was ‘with the greatest difficultythat he could command sufficient time for study and pulpitpreparation’. Short, with a pale and thoughtful face, he was nota ‘popular’ preacher but could rise to heights of oratory and,

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according to Garryowen (Edmund Finn), “You could not soonforget the speaker, so intense was his earnestness and sothoroughly did he throw himself into his subject”. Thoughpugnacious, he was also disinterested, generous and unselfish.He was regarded as having been an eloquent preacher and wasthe author of “The Voice of the Storm”.

Survived by his wife, his son Robert, another son and a daughter,Rev. Ramsay died of a stroke on 31 December, 1869 and he wasburied on the 4 January, 1870, in the Melbourne GeneralCemetery.”

This was the man who wrote and sent to England W. P. Scott’sobituary.

“The Freeman” - 20 August, 1856.

Baptists in Australia. (From our own Correspondent) Melbourne, 14th May, 1856

“The departure from this port for Liverpool of the celebratedsteam-clipper “Royal Charter”, which performed the outwardvoyage under disadvantageous circumstances in 59 days, presentsa favourable opportunity for transmitting some general particularsof the political and social condition of Victoria, and also toconvey to the readers of The Freeman information respectingthe state of religion in this part of the world, especially asprofessed by Christians of the Baptist name.

Pending the election of members to serve in the two houses ofour Colonial Parliament-the Legislative Council and LegislativeAssembly under the new constitution-there is no political activity,beyond the avowal of opinions, and advocacy of particularinterests, by aspirants to the honour of sitting in the first purelyrepresentative legislature of this colony, to meet some time inSeptember or October next, From the addresses already putforth, and the public reception of different candidates, it isevident that the principles most demanded are of a sound andprogressive nature. Foremost among the questions which willbe discussed at the ensuing elections is the continuance of “stateaid for religion.” The new constitution provides that £50,000per annum shall be appropriated for the support of religion, to bedivided among several Christian denominations. This sum istotally inadequate to confer any valuable benefit even upon thechurches willing to participate in the grant, while it will keepalive a spirit of sectarian discord, and give occasion for perpetualfeuds and controversies. I do not doubt, however, that a majorityof our popular legislators will be found to oppose the expenditureof any public funds for religious purposes, and that the authorityI have alluded to will, at an early date, be effectually revoked.The Roman Catholics are, of course, alarmed at the anticipationof their share of the spoil being withdrawn, and endeavour, bya very specious kind of reasoning, to show that the payment ofthis money is perfectly just and proper; but the argument iseasily refuted, as the system of state support to religion inVictoria is assuredly doomed.

The social aspect of our community is (by comparison)satisfactory and hopeful. The gold fields are yielding no lack of

the glittering treasure, trade is active, skilled labour of everykind is in full demand and liberally paid, the necessaries of lifeare abundant and moderate in price, and all classes enjoy a gooddegree of worldly prosperity. Cases of distress sometimes aremet, but in general they arise from the removal of the head of afamily or the incapacity of individuals to perform useful labour.We have been inundated with clerks, and others of no trade orspecial occupation, and without the bodily strength needful toundergo manual exertion-hence the poverty and wretchednessso often depicted; but for the industrious agriculturist, tradesman,or mechanic, there is every reasonable prospect of success.

From statements which occasionally appear in the Englishpress, it would seem that many persons “at home” entertain falsenotions regarding the position and character of this place.Sometimes Melbourne is ignorantly described as being in SouthAustralia, at other times said to be in New South Wales, and avariety of such blunders are published to our amusement. Few,however, even of those who have attained so much geographicalknowledge as to be aware that Melbourne is the metropolis ofVictoria, have a just conception of the character and appearanceof that city. The rapidity with which it has grown to its presentdimensions and stateliness is without a parallel in the history ofthe world, and speaks highly for the industry and enterprise ofour limited population. Noble edifices adorn our well-formed,well-paved streets; institutions of varied design have beenreared, including a university, public library, national schools,mechanics’ institutes, asylums, hospitals, etc., societies for theadvancement of science and promotion of morality areestablished; and when railways to the interior and othercontemplated public works have been constructed, Victoria,with its wonderful resources and energetic people, will speedilyrise to the dignity of a powerful commonwealth.

The tone recently adopted by some English religious magazinesI have seen, appears to indicate that Christianity has lost muchof its vitality among the home churches; it will not, therefore, bedeemed surprising that, in a new country like this, where thereare fewer incentives to the cultivation of goodness, and strongertendencies to the pursuit of this world’s good, the state ofreligion is discouraging and sad. As the “form of godliness”does not usually interfere with “business,” or the favouredobjects of men, this is to a considerable extent observed, and onthe Sabbath our churches are for the most part well attended; butthere is a lamentable want of that earnestness and vigour whichought to characterize every community of Christians, and theabsence of pious zeal toward the furtherance of Gospel truth is,in numerous instances, unmistakably obvious. TheEpiscopalians, Presbyterians, Wesleyans, and Independents haveall able and devoted ministers, but deadness and discouragementis, in some measure, the experience of most of them. A revivalis greatly needed and earnestly desired.

My purpose is to speak particularly of the Baptists, and trulytheir present position is pitiable. Not regarding sundry smallparties of Baptists who meet together for worship in differentlocalities, there are but two recognized Baptist churches in ornear Melbourne.The first of these has been without a Pastor fora considerable period, and as a result a parlour of tolerable sizewould now contain the entire congregation. As a dernier resort

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they have, I believe, by this mail forwarded an appeal to theirbrethren in England for some competent minister to come andresuscitate their dissolving members. The readers of TheFreeman will, I doubt not, see this document, so I need notfurther remark upon it.The other church (which is encumberedwith a heavy debt), was until lately presided over by the Rev.W.P. Scott, a man whose goodness and unaffected zeal obtainedfor him the love of his people and Christians of every name. Onthe 7th April last, death removed him from the scene of hislabours, and while the bereaved church mourn his loss, theymourn not for him, having the firm assurance that he has enteredupon the enjoyment of a heavenly reward. The few Baptistministers in Australia being either permanently settled orineligible for appointment, this church must now linger ondependent for the preaching of the Gospel on two or three of itsown members, or ministers of other denominations, until somequalified preacher shall, from a distance, take pity on them andproffer his services. According to the census returns taken in1854, the number of Baptists in Victoria was computed at 4727.It is very certain that the number now resident in this provinceis considerably beyond that stated, and yet there is but oneBaptist minister throughout this whole colony (the Rev. -Hewlett, a very excellent old gentleman), and he is comfortablyfixed at Geelong. I have heard of two or three very small flockswho call themselves Baptists, each presided over by a leader ofintensely strong Calvanistic notions; but as they are utterlyunknown beyond their own narrow precincts, I am unable to sayanything about them, nor can I recognise them as churches of thefree and enlightened Baptist denominations.

The condition of Baptists resident in the populated countrydistricts may be inferred from what I have stated regarding themetropolitan churches, and the facts thus mentioned of them-selves show how sadly we need assistance from England but itshould be borne in mind by any minister who may contemplatea transfer to this colony, that in order to establish our denominationupon anything like a creditable footing, many difficulties mustnecessarily be encountered, and that only men of superiorqualifications and a true missionary spirit are likely to succeed.I do not doubt there are many such who will read thiscommunication, and who have but to be assured of our necessity,to consider seriously and promptly, how far they may and oughtto promote the interests of religion in this distant land.”

Following the death of W.P. a collection was taken up on 27April, 1856, at the Collins Street Church and as recorded in theminutes, £27. 17. 6 was sent to his widow.

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Chapter 13.The Demise of the Albert Street Church.

On 3 October, 1983, the church, which had been unused formany years was burnt down and a report in “The Baptist Witnessof November 1983” by Rev. Philip N. Simmons had this to say:-

“The Grand Old Lady Perishes in the Flames. Many ofthe older generation of Victorian Baptists would havewept inwardly when the news came to hand that what hadso recently been described as the “Grand Old Lady” ofour denomination was now no more - she lay in a heap ofblackened ashes, ruins of a disastrous fire, which tookplace last month on October 3rd.

Ever since the historic “Baptist Church House” was soldin 1971 for $1.2 million, the building had stood idle andempty. Modern needs of office accommodationimprovement and mounting maintenance costs on theold property forced the Union (Baptist) at last to thereluctant decision and Church House was sold to providean income earning investment. Because of its uniquefeatures architecturally, the National Trust of Victoriaclaimed the building for posterity by placing it on arestricted list, recognising it as an architectural gem. TheTrust rated the church as the third most important of 370classified buildings on the Historic Buildings Register -a singular honour! The imposing Greek temple facadewas matched within by a large colosseum-amphitheatretype auditorium. Recently it had been thought that GrandOld Lady might have become a theatre, but these hopeswere extinguished in those flames of destruction.”

Thus the church which W.P. pioneered was burnt down, A newmundane office development has been completed. The facadewhich was saved from the fire remains but in a mostunsympathetic manner as shown in the photographs hereunder.The first was taken in 1986 showing what was left of the facade.The other three are of how the ‘redevelopment’ was finallycarried out.

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Chapter 14W.P’s Family:

14.1. Wife - Jemima nee Baker.

William Penford Scott’s wife, Jemima Scott nee Baker was bornon 12 April, 1810, the birth being registered at the George Street,Nottingham, Particular Baptist Church as were the births of herthree brothers and three sisters. She was the seventh and lastchild of John and Ann Baker nee Measam.

John Baker was born 20 November, 1772, at Ashborn,Derbyshire, the son of John and Jane Baker, maiden name notknown. Ann Measam was born 19 February,1768, at Derby thedaughter of Curtis and Jemima Measam, nee Shirley. John andAnn were married 22 September, 1794, by Rev. Charles St Kapein All Saints Church, Derby. Their sixth child was ThomasCurtis Baker mentioned previously as being on board the “SirCharles Forbes”. He was born on 14 February, 1808, and wasmarried for the first time on 6 August, 1829. He married MariaDawson and like W.P. and Jemima the wedding took place in StMarys Anglican Church, Nottingham. They had two childrenboth born in Nottingham Maria born 21 November, 1830, andJohn born 18 August, 1832. This Maria has been mentionedpreviously and will come into the story again. John died 4February, 1833, aged nine months and his mother died 8 August,1833, aged 27. They were buried in the George Street ParticularBaptist Church Cemetery. Thomas Curtis Baker’s grandfatherwho died 27 March, 1795, and his mother Ann who died 15 July,1830, were also buried there. The George Street Church wasformed when the congregation at Friar, Lane Nottingham movedthere in 1815. It is not in existence now.

Thomas Curtis married a second time on 4 March, 1835, to MaryAnn Marshal at Orston, Nottinghamshire. Mary Ann waschristened on 4 March, 1815. She was the daughter of Thomasand Elizabeth Marshall. T.C. and Mary Ann had five children,four of whom were born in Nottingham and one, William wasborn 10 January, 1851, at Norwood, South Australia,

Little is as yet known regarding Jemima Scott from the death ofW. P. until she died on 16 August, 1878, at the home of her sonWilliam, 132 Oxford Street, Collingwood. However, she waslisted in the Melbourne Directories for 1860 to 1862 as living at33 Gore Street, Collingwood. Then in 1863 the directory listedher as schoolmistress of a ladies’ school at 9 James Street,Williamstown. She did not appear in the 1864 directory but“Miss Scott” was shown as the school mistress of a ladies’school at 20 Stevedore Street, Williamstown.

Julia, the fifth child,was married on 1 September, 1863, toCharles George Darvall (brother of Alfred Darvall who wrote ofthe”Sir Charles Forbes” voyage) “at the house of Mother,Stevedore Street, Williamstown”. Witnesses to the weddingwere Jane Scott and Mary Ann Laurie nee Scott, Julia’s twoelder sisters.

It is probable that both Jemima and Jane taught at the school andmaybe that is how they made a living. From reports regardingJemima’s sister Jane and what we know of Thomas CurtisBaker, Jemima would have had a good education and would

have been quite capable of being a schoolmistress. However,Jemima most likely had a pretty hard time after W.P. died for shethen had seven children between the ages of seven and 18 to lookafter from then on.

14.2. Edward Pottinger.

The 18 year old was Edward Pottinger born in July, 1837. Hismarriage and death certificates show his place of birth asSwanwick, Derbyshire. Edward Pottinger was named for ThomasPottinger the friend of W.P.’s who studied with him at Horton,and who married Jemima’s sister, Jane Baker. Thomas Pottlngerwas the pastor at the Swanwick Baptist Church between 1835and 1840 so it would appear that Jemima went to stay with hersister and brother-in-law to have the child.

The friendship between Thomas Pottinger and W.P. was formedwhen they were studying at the Academy and they both graduatedin 1831. In 1832 W.P. accepted the pastorate at Colne whileT.P. travelled some distance north to visit the Baptist Church inJohn Street, Aberdeen, Scotland. He arrived there in January,1832, and in March was called to the pastorate. In June he wasordained.

While at the Academy the two met the Baker family ofNottingham. Jane Baker, the eldest daughter of John Baker, an“honoured” deacon of the Particular Baptist Church meeting inGeorge Street, Nottingham, broke with tradition and followedT.P. to Aberdeen and they were married in the “Old Macher”Church on 6 September, 1832.

The Baptist Magazine of 1886 said of Jane - “Miss Baker waswell qualified, by her gifts, her training and character, to becomea pastor’s wife. Cultured, comely, and graceful, yet vigorousand sympathetic, she inspired love while she roused and led allearnest activities in the Church and Sunday School”.

No doubt the Bakers were a fine family as evidenced above;John an honoured Deacon, Jane as described and Maria as amaster of five languages who carried on school in a roomspecially built and, because of her efficiency, attracted scholarsfrom all around. Very little has been found about Jemima butwe like to think that she lived up to the Baker tradition ofexcellence.

“Cut Out” of Jemima Baker, c. 1834.

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Early in 1834 Thomas Pottinger left Aberdeen mainly by reasonof friction caused by Scottish Baptist views. In July, he acceptedthe pastorate of the church at Swanwick, Derbyshire. AfterSwanwick he served in many pastorates interspersed with aperiod from 1859 to 1865 spent at the College which followedHorton, Rawdon, where he was Tutor, Financial Secretary andExaminer in Theology and Sermon. He died on Christmas Day1886 at Harrowgate at the age of 80 years.

The following is an extract taken from the “English BaptistMagazine” of 1886, Volume 78, in the Memoir of the Rev.Thomas Pottinger” by Rev. John Aldis, Senior:-

“In 1863, he was called on to endure the sorest trial of hislife, in the death of his beloved wife. For thirty-one yearsshe had been the helper of his toils, the solace of hisgriefs, the sharer of his joys, and the light of his home. Inthe full tide of vigour and health, she went to Newcastle,to pay a visit of condolence to a friend who had justbecome a widow. Riding out with some friends, she wasflung out of the carriage, fatally injured, and after threedays of suffering she died. Still the light of Divinecomfort gave a silver lining to the black cloud. Whentold that her injuries were fatal, she calmly said: ‘It iswell, I know whom I have trusted’. She quietly watchedthe approach of death, and when it was near she said, ‘Ithink I am in the Valley now’. Her last words were:-

“Let me bide myself in Thee.”

This was Jane Pottinger nee Baker.

Research so far has failed to find any children born to Thomasand Jane Pottinger and it can be taken that Thomas did not cometo Australia. After Jane died, Thomas in 1864 did travel for sixmonths on the Continent. However, a Thomas Pottinger appearsto have been either in South Australia or to have financed MariaBaker after her father, Thomas Curtis Baker, died in 1871.

Maria paid the rates for years after 1872 on the Baker land at SaltCreek, South Rhine in South Australia. The land Office in S.A.say that it was unusual for a woman to own land at that time. Thetitles to the land were held under power of attorney by DavidBayne who held mortgages over the land at the death of ThomasCurtis Baker. However, Transfer No. 44066 transferred titlefrom David Bayne to Thomas Pottinger in 1873. The land waslater transferred from Thomas Pottinger to John Royal of SouthRhine on 24 June, 1884. Maria died on 23 July, 1891.

The Baker family in New South Wales have a theory that Mariaused the name of her uncle, Thomas Pottinger, and maybe someof his money to pay off the debt on the Baker land. Research isstill going on regarding this mystery.

Thomas Pottinger re-married in 1885 to a Miss Ward whooutlived him.

Three of W.P. and Jemima’s children had connections withSandhurst or as it is now called, Bendigo.

The first was Edward Pottinger Scott, their first child. He

married Elizabeth Anne Fox in St John’s Church of EnglandMelbourne on 10 February, 1857, at the age of 20, she was 18.The marriage certificate shows them both to be Baptists andEdward a grocer. One of the witnesses was his sister Mary AnnScott. Elizabeth Anne Fox was born c. 1841 at Blythe,Northumberland.

They had 12 children between 1858 and 1883 as can be seenfrom the family tree, with family names recurring. For exampleEdward, William Penford, Thomas Pottinger, Jane and Jemima.The first three were born in Prahran and Richmond and theothers after they moved to Sandhurst in 1863/4. Edward Pottingerdied on 6 July, 1912, at Hope Street, Bendigo and ElizabethAnne died on 21 March, 1913, at Arnold Street, Bendigo. Hisdeath certificate showed him still as a grocer. It would appearthat his son Herbert Ernest carried on the business for some time.

Edward, the first child was born in 1858 in Prahran and hemarried Marion Elizabeth Fosdyke in 1882, also in Prahran. Herparents were drapers in Echuca so this was most probably thereason for Edward Pottinger’s first three children to move toEchuca. They were there between 1882 and 1889 as is evidencedby the rate book entries:-

AbbreviationsFNAVFull Net Annual Valuation.Allot. Allotment.Sec. Section.

“Edward Scott - first appears in rate books in 1882. Hisoccupation was Draper. He was the owner of and livedin a furnished 4 room wood cottage West of the CampaspeRiver, shown in the rate book as Allot 16-17, Sec K. TheFNAV was £12 and rate was set at 12d in the £1. Theproperty was occupied by 2 males and 1 female. He livedthere until 1888.

In 1888 he moved to a 6 room wood house in HovellStreet, East Echuca, shown in the rate book as Allot. 17,Sec. 29. This house was owned by William PenfordScott II and his address was given as Numurkah, Victoria.The FNAV was £24. Occupied by 2 males , 2 femalesand 1 dog! In 1890 the entry shows Edward as the ownerof the property. In 1891 the entry remained the sameexcept it then showed 3 females (could be Ella’s birth).In 1892 no further entry for Edward and the propertythen owned by Master Mariner Charles Cowley.

William Penford Scott II- first appears in rate books in1884. His occupation was Draper. He lived in a 4 roomwood house owned by William Caldwell, shown in therate book as sub-division 2, Allot 5, Sec. 20, PakenhamStreet, FNAV £14. Occupied by 1 male, 2 females, 1dog. In 1886 he moved to a 6 room wood house shownin the rate book as Allot 17, Sec. 29, FNAV £24. Thisentry shows William P. as the owner and occupied by 1male, 2 females, no dog! No further entries after this.

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cottage off Warren Street, Sec. 4, owned by WilliamNoble, a blacksmith. FNAV £14. He paid 6/- weeklyrent, occupied by 1 male, 2 females, 1 dog. In 1886 hemoved to a 5 room house owned by William Caldwell inPakenham Street, Sub-division 2, Allot. 5, Sec. 20,FNAV £14.He paid 6/- weekly rent. Occupied by 2males, 4 females, no dog.”

Mrs. Marjorie Wright of the Genealogical Society of Victoria,Echuca Group, had this to say:-

“I feel your Scott brothers must have lived a quiet short stay inEchuca. Catherine’s death in 1889, according to our records wasblood poisoning due to miscarriage a month after the loss of theirson, Cuthbert, this would probably have been enough to makeCuthbert Fox move on. I feel their living conditions were quitegood as each house they lived in seemed reasonable for thestandards of those times - example, good sanitary conditionswhich a lot of properties didn’t have, they didn’t keep a pigwhich a lot of households did and their name does not appear inthe bad debt column of the rate book - I covered the rate booksto 1900’s to see if they reappeared but no entry after 1891.”

Edward and Marion Elizabeth had all four children in Echucabut the third, Edith Ada, died at the age of nine months and sheis buried there. It is not known exactly when they went toSandhurst/Bendigo or when their draper’s business wascommenced. I could find no reference to any of them in theNumurkah records.

Their grand daughter Edith Ada Teague nee Scott told me thatEdward added the name “Pottinger” after Edward, and healways signed himself as E.P. Scott. She said he had a beautifulhand, writing script. He used to write texts on cut out tin and thenmake a scroll and paint it. Edward would go to the BaptistChurch in Bendigo for the whole day taking his lunch, cutsandwiches. He wanted ham sandwiches with mustard a quarterinch thick! He carried on the drapery business as Scott Bros. inHargreaves Street but after he had a stroke he sold the businessto people called Warren. He and Marion Elizabeth then went toCairns, Queensland, for about six months. He was a big man. Hedied in Hope Street, Bendigo in 1920 and Marion died in 1927.

William Penford 11 married Mary Eliza Watts in Prahran in1881 and their first child was born there. Their next fourchildren were born in Echuca and Mary Eliza died in SouthYarra on 26 March, 1906, and she is buried in grave No. BaptistC49 in the Boroondara Cemetery in Kew.

As an infant and together with her parents Mary Eliza came toAustralia in the ill fated “Schomberg” which foundered offCurdie’s River near what is now Peterborough on Boxing Day1855. No passengers were lost but the ship was, together withall luggage and cargo.

Don Charlwood has written a number of very interesting books,some about his war experiences, others about emigrating toAustralia. He was an Australian airman who operated overGermany in the 1939-45 war. He has given permission for meto quote from his books. One of his grand mothers was a

passenger on the “Schomberg” as a girl of seventeen. In hisbook, “Wrecks and Reputations”, which I recommend to anyonereading this book Don Charlwood wrote as “Author’s Note”:-

“When the “Schomberg” ran aground off Curdie’s Riveron the night of Boxing Day 1855, the passengers were in no greatperil, even though the magnificent ship itself was doomed. Butno luggage could be taken off by them. Our family of seven werebidden by their mother to put on all extra clothes they couldwear. The mother was Mary Lewis, bringing her children fromLondon to join their father in Melbourne. The eldest, EmilyLewis, then seventeen, recalled on her ninetieth birthday, “Wewere not allowed to take any of our belongings so I put on twodresses. It was before the days of crinolines, but we wore skirtssix yards round, with three or more stiff petticoats to hold themout”. Sixty years after the wreck I was added to the already verylarge numbers of her grandchildren. In addition to their numerouslayers of clothes, the family only retrieved a punch bowl and afruit bowl; both have remained with descendants in Melbourne.

When my grandmother was approaching her end at theage of ninety-six, she spoke still of watching the bows of the“Schomberg” splintering on the reef that now bears its name.Her stories drew me to the area in 1934, first to Cape Otwayitself. At that time the only way to the lighthouse was still by LaTrobe’s “tolerable road” which I picked up three miles out ofApollo Bay.

On that first visit to the lighthouse I was shown a chart onwhich the wrecks at the western entrance had been plotted. Ibegan to ask then why there were so many. It was a question thatled me eventually to gather the material for this book. Withawarenes of its inadequacies, I dedicate it now to the memory ofMary Lewis and the seven children who emigrated with her onthe “Schomberg”.”

With Don Charlwood’s people on the “Schomberg” were WilliamEdward and Eliza Stockley Watts nee Fowles together withdaughter Mary Eliza, aged two.

The “Schomberg”.

It was hoped the “Schomberg” would be the first record breakingclipper not made in North America. She was built in Aberdeen,Scotland, and was of 2600 tons, 288 feet long and 29 feet indepth, a very large vessel for the times. The height of hermainmast and her spread of sail was gigantic: 210 feet to themaintop, nearly as tall as the frontages of four good sizedsuburban blocks of land, her spread of sail was about the area of15 or 16 blocks of land, 16,000 square yards-or 3.3 acres. Shewas built on the diagonal principle, calculated to secure thegreatest strength. Her thickness consisted of four courses ofScotch larch, each 2 inches thick, and between each was a layerof hair felt, the outside or skin was pitch pine, 5 inches thick. The“Schomberg” was luxurious. The lower cabin contained sixtylarge staterooms, finished with white and gold...the ladies’cabin or drawing room was inlaid with rosewood, set off intoGrecian arched panels, and ornamented with pilasters, papermache cornices, gilding and flower work, the windows filledwith transparencies, etc.

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Captain James Nicol Forbes (Bully Forbes).

Forbes was born in Aberdeen in 1821, he went to sea as anapprentice at the age of twelve. At 24 he became a mate. Hisdescription was: Complexion - ruddy; Hair - brown; Eyes - blue;Height - (only) five feet six and three quarter inches. On 11August, 1852 he received his certificate as master. As Captainhis rapid passages between England and North America became“a matter of wonderment among the maritime community of theNorth”. This brought him to the notice of ship owners andmerchants who wished to establish trade between Liverpool andAustralian ports. After bringing several ships to Australia inrecord times his return voyage in the “Lightning” was one thatwas never bettered. The outward voyage took seventy-sevendays, not fast by Forbes standards, though there were four dayswhen the “Lightning” logged 332, 348, 311 and 329 nauticalmiles. The return voyage was “astonishing” and set a Liverpool-Melbourne-Liverpool record never excelled by sailing ships.The Liverpool “Times” reported:

“The magnificent clipper-ship “Lightning”, J.N. Forbes,arrived in the Mersey on Monday, after the most remarkablepassage ever recorded in the annals of navigation. She leftMelbourne on Sunday afternoon, the 20th August, and thus herrun here is rather under sixty-three days. The “Lightning” sailedhence on the 14th May, and has made the voyage out and home,including the detention of twenty clear days at her anchors inHobson’s Bay in 5 months 21 hours. This is unprecedentedlyshort, notwithstanding that the outward run, from the nature ofthe winds experienced, occupied longer than might havereasonably been expected from the well-known qualificationsof the ship, and the great ability of her commander.”

She averaged close upon 300 miles per day, the run fromMelbourne to Cape Horn was only 19 days mean time, it wassaid by far the fastest ever recorded either under canvas or steam.The ship brought upwards of eighty passengers, and 40,000ounces of gold dust as freight.

Captain Forbes was discharged from the “Lightning” in Liverpoolon 23 October, 1854, and after a spell of about eleven months onshore he was selected to take the new “Schomberg” on hermaiden voyage to Melbourne.

The Journey of the “Schomberg”

The departure of the “Schomberg” from Liverpool was advertisedin the Liverpool “Daily Post”:-

“The Splendid New Clipper Ship SCHOMBERG J.N.Forbes, Commander,celebrated for his wonderful passages in the MARCO POLOand LIGHTNING... is expected she will prove herself the fastestship in the world...”

Daring words; a daring master!

On 6 October, 1855, she sailed with a boast of “Sixty days to

Melbourne” flying from her signal halliards. This was not to beas she was beset by calms or light winds to the dismay of Forbes.On Christmas Day the ship came in sight of land at CapeBridgewater, some eighty days out from England. This landfallwas one hundred and twenty miles west of Cape Otway similarto that Forbes had made in the “Lightning”. This should havebeen a good one, provided the Captain then stood safely out tosea. However, between the Christmas Day landfall and loss ofthe ship on Boxing Day, this was not to be the case and wasexacerbated by the fact that the Captain was not on deck duringthe most critical period of those two days.

Following the wreck the boatswain, James Hodges, reported tothe inquiry that he was first called upon deck and took uponhimself to put about the ship without orders. When he saw landon the second occasion, he again put the ship about. So it wasleft to the boatswain to ‘put about the ship’ on two occasions, butto no avail. She went aground bows foremost on a sandy rocknow known as “Schomberg Reef” - near the present town ofPeterborough. All passengers were safely taken off by twopassing coastal steamers one of which was the “Queen”. Withina matter of days heavy storms pounded the ship to pieces.

Forbes’ international reputation seems to have intimidated thecolonial courts. Despite damning evidence, he was exoneratedbecause the reef was not chartered, but he was never again givena first-class command. In 1871 and four years later wreckagewas found in a remote spot in New Zealand. The section broughtout aroused great interest because of the unusual construction:the wood was in layers on the diagonal principle. Belief wasexpressed that the ship could be none other than the “Schomberg”.A piece was sent to Halls of Aberdeen and it was identified ashaving come from the ship they had launched in 1855!

Dates unknown, but William Penford spent two years in NewSouth Wales and he was remarried at Adelong to Mabel Boundy.He died at South Yarra on 21 January, 1928.

Cuthbert Fox first married Catherine Margaret Hope inMelbourne in 1883 and they had three children in Echuca. Thelast, Cuthbert Hope born March, 1888, died in January, 1889,and Catherine died 21 February, 1889. Cuthbert remarried in1890 to Martha Smith Hedgecock and they had three children inBendigo between 1890 and 1894.

Cuthbert Fox Scott was named after his maternal grand fatherand uncle, both being named Cuthbert Fox, they were bothmariners. Perhaps Uncle Cuthbert sailed paddle steamers in theMurray River from Echuca? The Fox family left Liverpool on27 April, 1853 on board the “Miles Barton” arriving in Melbourneon 24 July, 1853. The grandfather was not on board so it isassumed he had died in England. However, the grandmother,Anne Fox nee Nelson did come out on the ship.

The family consisted of Anne and her five children; Cuthbert,William, Elizabeth Anne, Ebeneza and Elizabeth, althoughthere is a doubt about this last Elizabeth merely because of theduplication of names. As well on board was Elizabeth Nelsonaged 25 and assumed to be Anne Fox’s sister.

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Cuthbert Fox Scott died on 4 February, 1926, at the “Hospital forInsane” Sunbury, Victoria. The cause of death was “exhaustiondue to carbuncle” which was the verdict at an inquest held on 4February, 1926, at Sunbury by D. Berriman, Coroner.Information on the death certificate is only sketchy, name andsurname of father and mother - not known; where born, etc., -Victoria, further particulars unknown; if deceased was married,where and at what age and to whom married, further particularsunknown. He was buried on 6 February, 1926, at Box HillCemetery by S. J. Le Pine, the minister was R. Greening.

The next two children of Edward Pottinger and Elizabeth Annewere Francis (or Francies as his birth certificate shows), andElizabeth Anne. They married sister and brother, BerthaChristina and George Albert Davey. The Davey family came toMelbourne on board the “Alumburgh” which left Plymouth on30 July, 1870, arriving on 30 October, the same year. The familyconsisted of father Thomas G. aged 32, mother Sarah C., 39 andchildren William 11, Elizabeth 9, Bertha 6, George 4 andLouise 1.

Note that Edward Pottinger’s seventh child was named ThomasPottinger and I was told that the next child was named AlbertSeptimus because he was the seventh son. Other informationregarding the family is shown on the family trees.

14.3. Mary Ann.

The second child of W.P. and Jemima was Mary Ann born c.1839 at Loughborough, Leicestershire. She married FrancisLaurie at the Congregational Parsonage, Sandhurst, on 31 July,1860. She was aged 22 and occupation shown as “Lady”, hermother travelled to Sandhurst and was a witness to the marriage.Francis Laurie was born at Edinburgh, Scotland. He was aged 27and was a draper. His father was James Laurie a “ChristianMinister” and his mother was Jane nee Sommerville.

The Lauries had six children in Victoria. Mary Ann was born in1861 at Sandhurst, then Francis William on 23 February, 1863,at Williamstown.This probably was the year Jemima moved toWilliamstown and perhaps Mary Ann went to stay with hermother to have the child. The next child was Alexander born atSandhurst in 1865 and the three last were born in Richmond.

The Lauries moved to Rockhampton, Queensland, some timebetween 1874 and 1880. Their last child born in Victoria in1874 was Thomas.

Mary Ann Laurie II came from Rockhampton to Melbourne in1880 to marry John Cameron. It is not known whether theLauries had any further children in Queensland but it seemslikely that the nephew William Scott Lawrie (sic) who was theinformant at the death of Jane Scott was a son. Had he been bornthere in 1875 he would have been 21 at the time. The fourchildren between Mary Ann II and Thomas were all married inRockhampton between 1890 and 1892.

Mary Ann Laurie II married John Cameron at the Albert StreetBaptist Church on 30 November, 1880. She was aged 19, hermother and Uncle William Scott were witnesses. Her “usual

residence” was shown on the marriage certificate asRockhampton, Queensland, and “present residence”, 14 SmithStreet, Collingwood. John Cameron was born at Lourgill, Skye,Scotland, he was aged 31 and was christened on 12 March, 1849.He was a Congregational Minister living in the CongregationalParsonage, Maryborough, Victoria. His father was DonaldCameron a farmer born in 1826 and his mother was Marion neeMacleod born in 1827, both at Duirinish, Inverness, Scotland.

Between 1881 and 1888 the Camerons had five children, thefirst four at Maryborough and the last at Ceres, Victoria. Thethird child was Laura Macleod Cameron born in 1884. MargaretStevens nee Darvall gave me a copy of a letter, reproducedbelow, written after Julia Darvall nee Scott died in 1930. It wassome time before the relationship of Laura Macleod was foundbut the issue of Victorian birth, death and marriage indices onmicro fiche gave the clue. Laura mentions in her letter as wellas Aunt Julia, Uncle William who was W.P.’s fourth child andmy grandfather. Laura died unmarried in 1937 in Surrey Hills,Victoria, at the age of 50. Mary Ann Cameron died in Geelongin 1906 and John died in Surrey Hills in 1911.

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14.4. Jane.

The third child of W.P. and Jemima was Jane, born c. 1840 atLoughborough, LeicestershireAmongst the papers in the Albert Street Baptist Church archivesheld by the Baptist Union of Victoria are the first lists ofmembers. These show those members who were baptised byW.P. and also list a number of Scotts including William and hiswife, Jane, Mrs W.P., Edith, Evelyn (Mrs Chandler) and Annie.

One entry led to Jane Scott in Rockhampton, Queensland. Shewas shown in the list of members as “Received October, 1879”and “to Rockhampton 2.4.82.” The Rockhampton BaptistTabernacle Membership Roll shows her as “Received 4September, 1882, and in the minutes of the church there are anumber of entries such as listed below and these indicate thatMiss Jane Scott took an active part in the life of the church.Amongst other things her duties were to visit new applicants formembership:-

“Minutes of Church Meeting held on Sept. 30th 1885.

Applications for Membership.

Mr & Mrs KearneyThe Pastor on behalf of Mr and Mrs Kearney madeformal application for membership. Bro. Sims prod andBro. Ayling Secd that Bros Davis and Dobbs visit MrKearney and Sisters Scott and J. Dobbs Mrs Kearney andreport in the usual way.March 1886.

Sister Scott asked for assistance in the work of Tractdistribution as most of those who had hitherto taken upthis work had relinquished it, and now there was but onewho could help her.

6 June, 1888.

Mr Dobbs Moved - That the following ladies form aCommittee for making arrangements for supplying theTables. -(Twelve names followed including Miss Scott).

27 November, 1895.

Miss Scott and Mrs Morris reported favourably of theChristian faith and character of Miss Mary E. Harbottleand it was resolved that she be received into membershipon the usual conditions. (“HARBOTTLE”, an unusualname which has occurred twice in this story. JosephHarbottle was one of the examiners who signed “TheReport of the Examining Committee” at Horton Academyin the year W.P. graduated.)

Miss Scott and Mrs Janworth reported favourably of theChristian faith and character of Miss Mary Anderson andit was resolved that she be received into membership onher baptism.

There was no further mention of Miss Scott in the minutesfollowing through to 1900 so an application was made to theQueensland Registrar of Births Deaths and Marriages. A DeathCertificate was received showing that Jane Scott had died on 4June, 1896, at Derham Street, Rockhampton, aged 55 years. Theinformant was William Scott Lawrie (sic), nephew, of MurrayStreet, Rockhampton. Jane Scott would have been named afterJane Baker who is mentioned elsewhere.

14.5 William.

The fourth child was William born 23 April, 1841 at PenfoldGate, Loughborough, Leicestershire. He married Frances SabinaBurges at the “House of Mr. Carr, 62 Bourke Street East,Melbourne”, on 29 September, 1870. He was 29, a contractorand she was shown as aged 27 but this should have been about33. Frances Sabina was born c.1837 at Yatton, Cleeve, Somerset.Her father was George Codrington Burges, a contractor andplasterer, and her mother was Frances Elizabeth nee Butlandwho died on 24 August, 1893, at Fitzroy, Victoria. Her deathcertificate shows her father as William Butland and motherFlorence Elizabeth maiden name not known who was actuallyanother Frances Elizabeth. She died at Bedminster, Somerset,England.

See Chapter 15 for details of Frances Sabina Scott’s ancestors.

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William and Frances Sabina had four daughters: the first,Frances Alice Jemima was born in January, 1872, but she diedon 23 November, 1874. The next was Edith Georgina born in1873, and then Annie Beatrice born 27 February, 1876 and thelast was my mother, Evelyn Jane, born 15 November, 1880 atSmith Street, Collingwood. She was the only daughter to marryand this was to Herbert Samuel Chandler at the Albert StreetBaptist Church on 13 April, 1903. The witnesses to the marriagewere Edith and Annie and Uncle Albert Burges. Herbert Samuelwas born on 18 July, 1880, at Hartwell, his father was John andmother Ruth Chandler nee Harvey. At the time of the marriagehe was living over the D & W Chandler shop at 247 BrunswickStreet, Fitzroy. “Bert” and Evelyn first lived at 17 Kneen Street,North Fitzroy moving later to 355 Lygon Street, Brunswick, thehouse being named “Villa Australia”.

Evelyn Jane SCOTT and Herbert Samuel Chandler(taken before they married)

Evelyn Jane Chandler (Nee Scott) Annie Beatrice ScottAlfred Chandler.

Herbert Samuel and Evelyn Jane Chandler Weddingphoto.

Rolicker Alfred Iris Gwendoline Evelyn Herbert

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Evelyn Jane Chandler (“Ma”) on her 80th birthday.

My mother, Evelyn Jane, wasa very gentle person in thestyle of most of the Scotts. Inever did hear her raise hervoice and certainly never herhand. She mostly went alongwith whatever my fatherwanted without demur. Shelived on for 15 years afterBert died in 1950. Sheworked for the Red Cross inBeaumaris and was awardeda 20 Years’ Service Medalfor this.

In November 1960 the familygave my mother a birthdayparty for her 80th birthdaywhich she appreciated as isevidenced by the letter shewrote on 28 November,which is shown below:-

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My father built a house at 10 Collace Street, Brunswick for mygrandfather with a sleepout as part of the house mainly for EdithGeorgina who had TB. This had flywire from about six feetupwards to allow a free passage of fresh air. She died there on22 August, 1919, just 18 days after her mother who also diedthere on 8 July, 1919. My brother, 13 years older than me,doesn’t remember grandmother, Frances Sabina, he says shewas bedridden for many years before she died. When my familymoved to Beaumaris in 1921 William and daughter Annie cameto live with us.

Annie Beatrice Scott

I had the privilege of growing up with Aunt Annie Scott whodied at “Cliffs House”, 446 Beach Road, Beaumaris on 14 June,1941, just three days before my marriage to GwendolineStewart Lindsay. She had a beautiful, quiet, serene dispositioneven though she was not strong. For some reason one leg wasshorter than the other and she wore a high-boot.

Edith Georgina Scott

10 Collace Street, Brunswick

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I remember very little of my grandfather and my only personalmemory is of his death at “Cliffs House” on 28 September,1922, when I was four years old. His occupation was variouslylisted as carpenter or contractor.

Evelyn Jane and Herbert Samuel Chandler had two children,first was Alfred William Herbert born 1 June, 1905, and thesecond was myself, Rolicker, born 27 January, 1918.

Rol and Alfred William Chandler.

Alf wrote a short history which he has called “The Ripple fromthe Sunny South”, he being an amateur radio “ham”, one of thevery earliest in Victoria. The following is “The Ripple”:-

This is my RADIO HISTORY.

“It was about the year 1920 (I have to rely on my memory, abushfire in January 1944 destroyed all my records) that I firstbecame interested in wireless. I was 15 at the time, and had beenlistening to my cousin’s new wireless set, which had been builtby an old identity, George Graham, a celebrity living in BrunswickStreet, Fitzroy. He had been inspired by an amateur broadcaster,Norm Culliver, 3DP. I was attending Scotch College in EastMelbourne at the time, so I built myself a crystal set to listen tothe then broadcasters, 3AR and 3UZ. Living at Beaumaris,which is about 15 miles south east of the city of Melbourne wasa little too far away for good reception on a crystal set, so Iproceeded to build a one valve receiver.

By the year 1923 I had advanced to the stage of a three valvereceiver, detector and two stages of audio using 201A valves,and it was on that set that I received Madam Nellie Melba’sopening of 3LO. My father ran a guest house on Beach Road,Beaumaris, so I installed my set in his large hall, and he invitedall our neighbours to come to listen to his son’s “new fangledwireless set”.

Unfortunately, I didn’t then realise how a hall full of peoplewould dampen reception, and you could hardly hear anythingunless you were quite near the set! Never-the-less, I was a hugesuccess!

In 1924 the Marconi School of Wireless was located in thebasement of the Amalgamated Wireless of Australia (AWA)building in Queen Street, Melbourne, and it was then that Idecided I would like to learn more about wireless, and becomea ship’s wireless operator. I enrolled with their course inWireless Telegraphy, and the first part, correspondence, consistedof theory papers, and a Rexona gramophone and six gramophonerecords for morse instruction. However, it wasn’t very longbefore I had memorised the contents of the records, so I built

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myself a one valve receiver to listen to our ship-to-shore station,VIM, and any ships that may be in the bay. This set used threehoneycomb coils on hinges, inductively coupled, and the usual201A valve.

After eight months I was called up to the school to continue thecourse. The morse instructor, an old ship’s operator by the nameof Burbery sat at the end of a table operating a hand key, and we,eight of us, sat around the table. copying morse from a buzzersituated in the middle of the table. In this way we progressed to25 words per minute. In the resultant exam, the practical, I hadto find a fault in the transmitter, what a fault, a piece of paper hadbeen placed between the contacts of the key!

The transmitter used at the school was a 500 watt rotary gapspark transmitter. Imagine us in the basement, a ventilator grillin the footpath directly above us in Queen Street, with peoplewalking across the ventilator. When we pressed the key all helllet loose and they got the fright of their lives! I passed out in1925 with a First Class Commercial Wireless Operator’sCertificate. Immediately after the exam a Mr. Sunter came intothe room. We were all lined up, and he said “I’ve got a job forone of you lads, and the first one to step forward will get it”. Istepped forward immediatly, got the job and started with CrystalClear Radio, a retail business in Swanston Street, Melbourne,next to the Royal Mail Hotel on the corner of Bourke Street.

About nine months ahead, and a call came for me to join a trampsteamer plying between Darwin and Broome in WesternAustralia. The job was Wireless Operator/Purser at 14 poundsa month, supply my own uniforms (a white and a blue one). AsI was earning 5 pounds a week at Crystal Clear I declined theoffer, and stayed with them until their demise in 1927, when Istarted my own business “Beaumaris Radio Service”.

Alf at the controles of VK3WH 1927I have often wondered whether I did the right thing not going tosea? In 1926 I decided that I had better do something with myknowledge, so I applied for and received an AmateurExperimental Licence with the Call sign OA3WH. I didn’t haveto sit for the AOCP exam, nor have I ever since, my CommercialTicket being sufficient.

In 1927 Trevor Evans, OA2NS, initiated me into the “RagChewers Club”, and I was quite active on the 30 and the 8o meter

bands. The equipment I used at that time was all home brew, andthe transmitter was built into a wooden rack, six feet tall by 21inches wide. The power supplies, one 350 and another 1000volts, occupied the bottom section. The next layer housed theoscillator, TPTG crysral controlled using a 201A valve, then inthe next was the buffer stage, and on the top the final amplifier,100 watt using a 210 valve. Each stage was link coupled. Alsoon the top was an antenna tuning unit. The antenna used was acentre fed Hertz with 600 ohm tuned feeders. I installed a 240volt pilot lamp across the centre of the antenna which lit up whenI pressed the key, and my neighbours wondered what theflickering light was all about. My father constructed and erecteda 60 foot wooden lattice tower for me.

He also erected a 25 foot wooden mast on top of our two storeyhouse, so I had a perfectly flat top antenna, and a good set up. Imade the Century Club on 30 meters, but only worked interstateand New Zealand on 80. The receiver was a superhet built forme by Jack Kling, OA3JB.

Also in 1927 I joined the Victorian Radio Transmitters’ League(VRTL), and became their Communications Manager. JackKling was President, and members were Harry Cliff; 3CH Bill;Gronow; 3WG Geoff Frew; 3PM Leo; Paul 3LP; Allan Reid3JR; Bill Martin 3MJ; Chris Rainbow 3CR; Bill Sievers 3CB;Charlie Whitelaw 3BH; Ron Jardine 3PR; Col Churnside 3WQ;myself and others. This organization was eventually made abranch of the ARTL with Mat O’Brien 4MM President and LeoFeenaughty 4LJ Secretary, and was a breakaway of members ofthe WIA who had become disillusioned with the workings of theInstitute at the time.

In 1929, having won their 80 meter contest I was invited to ameeting with Leo and Bruce Hardie, the Secretary of the WIA,at his home in Caulfield to receive a pannent for my win. It wasalovely gesture, and had been especially made and embroideredby Leo’s sister. Unfortunately, this has been destroyed in thebush fire as before mentioned. It was at this meeting of the twoSectetaries that the WIA and the ARTL merged, the WIAretaining its identity. I joined the WIA at that juncture.

After leaving Crystal Clear Radio I started my own business,Beaumaris Radio Service, but in 1929, as things weren’t going

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too well, my father said to me, “I think there’s going to be adepression soon. I can get you a job with our firm D & WChandler;, the hardware merchants, I think you ought to takethat opportunity”. I did so, and stayed with them for elevenyears, until 1940 when I enlisted in the RAAF. In the meantimeI was married and moved QTH to 35 Aileen Avenue, SouthCaulfield. During this time, I was a member of the WIA RAAFReserve, but in 1937 I resigned, not thinking that there would beany war! How wrong I was, and that was a very bad decision,because at the outbreak of World War Two all my equipmentwas impounded in my local Post Office. If I hadn’t resigned, Iwould have been called up at the outbreak, and probably, as mycolleagues were, I would have gone in with a commission.However, in October 1940 I enlisted in the RAAF starting fromscratch as an ACI.

My rookies training was done at Point Cook, course number G6,and after passing out I was posted to number one Wireless AirGunners School (1WAGS) at Ballarat, Victoria, and musteredas a Wireless Operator Ground. When I first arrived at Ballaratthe Officer in Charge of Signals was Flight Lieutenant Simmons,who will be mentioned further on, and we communicated withthe training aircraft, Avro Anson two engined craft, using WorldWar One vintage 1082/1083 transceivers. Later we changed toAustralian AT5/AR8 equipment which served through-outWW2. The Signals Office was later segregated from trainingand used Australian AR7 receivers and an AT12 transmitter,and communicated with Laverton and Cressy.

Warrant Officer Alf Chandler, 1943.

In 1942, having risen to the rank of Flight Sergeant, I remusteredto Wireless Operator/Mechanic grade one, and was in chargeunder Flying Officer “Dutchy” de Bruin, of the Signals Office.In 1943 I was promoted too Warrant Officer Signals grade one,and being browned off with being “Dutch’s” stooge, doing themajority of his work including first grade cypher, which shouldonly be done by a Commissioned Officer, while he spent mostof his time in the Officers’ Mess, I rang Cliff Traill who was incharge at Headquarters of Signals postings, asking for a postingnorth. I was on leave at Mildura when the posting came through,and got a telephone call from “Dutchy” telling me the news. Hesaid to me, quite tersely, “How did you arrange that posting?”He asked me the same question years after when my wife and Iwere invited to his home for afternoon tea, but I didn’t enlightenhim on either occasion. In October, 1943, I was posted toTownsville in Queensland for onward posting. On fronting upto the Officer in charge of North Eastern Zone who should it bebut the Officer when I first went to Ballarat, now SquadronLeader Simmons. He immediately posted me to Cairns incharge of Signals at the Radar Zone Filter Station there, and itwas there that one day I received a letter from my Sister-in-lawsaying that our house had been destroyed by a bushfire, andcould I get leave to come home. I immediately applied andreceived compassionate leave, because it meant that all of mypossessions had been burnt. When I arrived I found the housea smouldering mess: not a thing left.

After being at Cairns for about six months I was posted tonumber eight Stores Depot at Macrossan near Charters Towers,a siding about half way between Townsville and ChartersTowers in Queensland. I was liason between stores and signals,and in charge of all the radio equipment there. October 1945 andI was called to Melbourne for discharge. I was out in less thana week, rather quick to say the least, since I had been in theRAAF service for exactly five years and it took me close to sixmonths to become accustomed to “civvy” life again. In themeantime I was looking around for somewhere to start my ownbusiness.

1013 High Street, Armadale

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I eventually settled for 1013 High Street, Armadale, where Istayed for 16 years until I retired from business. So as to lessenthe trauma of retirement I took a two year stint with the ABC(Australian Broadcasting Commission), as Radio Technician.

It took ten years from discharge from the RAAF until I cameback to amateur radio. I attended a re-union of 1WAGSpersonnel where Fred Bail VK3YS, Roth Jones VK3BG andPeter Lempriere VK4ALL were talking about how they wereworking DX on 20 meters. The bug bit again, so I applied to thePMG for a licence and call sign, and was allotted VK3LCwithout having to take any test, my Commercial Ticket beingsufficient. Peter initiated me into the intricacies of a Type 3Mark 2 set, so I bought one, and subsequently won two NationalField Day competitions with it, 1958 and 1959. I joined theMoorabbin and District Radio Club (MDRC) in 1959, andbecame Secretary in 1960, serving three years until 1963. Iorganized two very successful National Field Day gatherings atmy property at Crib Point on Western Port Bay, 1960/61.

From 1963 until 1970 I was a member of the WIA “AmateurRadio” magazine Publications Committee, formerly asCirculation Manager, and then as Magazine PublicationsManager. In 1967 I was asked to take over the Intruder WatchVK3 Co-ordination, which I accepted and occupied until 1970when I took over the Federal IW Co-ordination, 1970 to 1975.In 1978 I was presented with the Ron Wilkinson AchievementAward “In recognition of Outstanding Achievement in the Fieldof Intruder Watch Activities”. In 1983 Jim Linton, VictorianWIA President presented me with a Silver Medallion “Formeritorious service to the Victorian Division WIA”, and in 1984David Wardlaw, Federal President WIA, presented me with aSilver Plaque which reads “Our appreciation to Mr A.W.H.Chandler, VK3LC for his long term (1975 to 1982) contributionto the Association as Regional I.W. Co-ordinator, IARU Region

Alf in his shack in 1977

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1984 to 1987 saw me again Secretary to the Moorabbin andDistrict Radio Club. In March 1992 I was presented with aCertificate and Medallion as a Life Member of the MDRC, andI am now retired from all official duties, but still regularly attendClub functions, especially the “Tuesday Morning Group” whereas many as 60 to 70 older members meet for a “natter” and coffeewith convivial company. And this is Alf Chandller, VK3LCsaying very 73 to all, and Happy Hunting.

A former copy of this history was broadcast over the AustralianRadio Old Timers’ Club (RAOTC) monthly “Net and call back”on Monday the 5th of January, 1987. This Net is a broadcastwhich is transmitted on several frequencies on the first Mondayof each month, and is the official Net of the RAOTC, the Societyof Amateur Radio Operators who have held a licence for 25years or more. My licence is dated 1926!!”

A very short version of my own story follows:-

I was born at “Villa Australia”, 355 Lygon Street, East Brunswick,on 27 January, 1918. The family moved to Beaumaris in 1921,the property then being called “Sunnyland”, 425 Beach Road,later 446 Beach Road and “Cliffs House”. My father had builta large house of some 22 rooms, all of the outside woodworkbeing jarrah wood, even the floors of spacious verandahs. Healways believed in having everything of the best quality, andsolid. This was the house which was totally destroyed in thebush fire previously mentioned. There was no electricity at firstand he installed a small engine and generator which was startedup in the late afternoon chugging away to supply our ownelectricity.

In 1924 my parents sent me to Mentone Grammar School whichhad commenced the previous year. I continued there until theend of 1928 and then attended Sandringham State School for ayear followed by four years at Hampton Higher ElementarySchool. I was to have followed my brother and cousins toScotch College but the great depression caused my father’sincome to decrease. My next move was to the Bradshaw andEverett Business College and after a couple of years there myfather arranged for me to start work at D. & W. Chandler Ltd.,of which he was a director. This was in 1935.

On my eighteenth birthday, 27 January, 1936, I passed the testfor a car drivers licence but because the policeman who testedme was not satisfied that I was eighteen, a birth certificate wasrequired. This was forthcoming on 24 February and my licencewas issued then numbered 476,930 and the current licence willtake me on to 24 February, 2001. My father then gave me mybrothers 1929 Austin 7 sports, or ‘runabout’ as the registrationcertificate described it. From then on I have continuouslyowned a car.

As a lad I was excruciatingly shy - when uncles, aunts andcousins visited I would disappear for some time to the back ofour property. My father had purchased over a number of years,commencing in 1911, six blocks of land, four facing Beach Roadand two at the back facing Rennison Street. There was plenty

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of cover for me to hide in. I was not over studious but read a lothaving put together a small library of my own. This included allthe books written by Alexander Dumas, all destroyed in the bushfire. I was also very much fond of music, as I still am, althoughnot able to play any instrument; except a pianola, which peoplewould tell me I played with a certain amount of skill! My fatherplayed many instruments by ear; piano, organ, violin, autoharp,jews harp and tin whistle, etc. At the time wireless came in mybrother made me a crystal set with a catswhisker which had tobe set carefully on a piece of crystal to receive through earphonestwo stations, 3AR and 3DB. Many a night I would go to bed,put on the earphones and listen to ‘good’ music, stories, newsand cricket My mother would come in later to remove theearphones when I was asleep. Probably the reason for myrelatively flat ears!

I was mostly driven to Mentone Grammar; one week my fatherwould drive Phillip Stretton, a near neighbour, and myself in hisStar car, purchased in 1911. The other week Mrs. Strettonwould drive us in her Austin 7 ‘flying flea’. If neither wasavailable I would walk home either along Beach Road, hopingsome good soul would take pity on me and drive me home; alas,this never did happen. Otherwise I would walk along the pathabove the cliffs. Cannot imagine anyone allowing a lone childto do that in these troubled times, but in those days there was nodanger. When I first went to the Hampton School a tram ranfrom Beaumaris to Sandringham and then train to Hampton.Sometimes I would walk from Hampton to Sandringham so thatthe penny fare became mine. Later the tram was taken off fromBeaumaris to Black Rock and a small bus took over, runningalong the single track left by the tram through the bush.

As mentioned above I commenced work in 1935 at D & WChandler Ltd., Hardware Merchants, Brunswick Street, Fitzroy,in the inward overseas goods department. This was a great areafor experience in what type of goods came from countriesaround the world, mainly Britain, USA and Germany. The costand selling prices had to be marked on all containers or largeequipment,both in code which I remember to this day. I still usethe selling price code for any numbers which need to beprotected, EG., PIN numbers.

After the Second World War had been going for a short time Iwas called up for military service in the C.M.F. (CommonwealthMilitary Forces) and for three months in early 1941 I trainedwith the Fourth Field Ambulance. I was then transferred to theA.A.P.C. (Australian Army Pay Corps) at 339 Swanston Street,Melbourne. During this time I was promoted to Sergeant,volunteered for overseas service and joined the A.I.F (AustralianInfantry Force). After a time training in Queensland in 1942, Iembarked on the “Taroona” for New Guinea disembarking atPort Moresby which was under air attack by Japanese planes. Ijoined ANGAU (Australian New Guinea Administration Unit)and was posted to the Finance Office as Paymaster, rising to therank of WO 11 (Warrant Officer Class 11). As mentioned in theintroduction the bushfire at Beaumaris on 14 January, 1944,destroyed our home and I was sent home on compassionateleave for a few weeks, returning to New Guinea again on boardthe “Taroona”. (In 1936 my parents and I went for a holiday toTasmania travelling there also on board the “Taroona”).

Warrant Officer Rol Chandler with Gamoga(Personal Boy) New Guinea, 1943

The Papuans who worked for us, such as Gamoga, were alwaysa happy, placid lot, doing a lot of dancing and singing. Theirfavourite song was “You are my Sunshine”, I can hear it now!This would be heard around the camp, the mess area or in thevillages, such as Hanuabada which was built out over the sea.

On returning from New Guinea on 12 December, 1944 I wasagain posted to the Third District Finance Office where Iremained until discharge.

I did not return to D & W Chandler Ltd., but obtained a positionin the Finance Department of the SEC (State ElectricityCommission of Victoria), commencing there on 18 October,1948. Not long after joining the SEC I applied for transfer to theInternal Audit Branch where I remained for some 20 years,rising to become a Senior Audit Inspector. My next move wasin 1970 as Investment Manager, SEC Superannuation FundInvestments, retiring from this position on 1 February, 1979.

I became engaged to Gwendoline Stewart Lindsay on 1 April,1941 and we were married at the Malvern Presbyterian Churchon 19 June, 1941. While in Queensland I contacted ulcers,particularly in my eyes, and was in the Greenslopes MilitaryHospital and then Cooparoo Convalescent Hospital as anoutpatient for some time, Gwen came to Brisbane to be with me

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and remained in different parts of Queensland until I was senthome for pre - embarkation leave , when she returned home withme.

Our three children are:-

John Lindsay born at Mentone on 10 December, 1944.

Ian Murray born at Mentone on 7 December, 1946.

Hilary Clare born at Epworth Hospital, Richmond, on 9 November, 1953.

After discharge from the Army I studied accountancy under thearmy rehabilitation scheme and was admitted in 1952 as ACIA(Associate Commonwealth Institute of Accountants), laterAustralian Society of Accountants (AASA). I became a Fellowof the Society (FASA) in 1961, and more recently (FCPA)Fellow Certified Practicing Accountant. My other qualificationswere (ASIA) Associate of the Securities Institute of Australia;(LCA) Licenced Companies Auditor, and (FAICD) FellowAustralian Institute of Directors.

14.6 Julia.

The fifth child was Julia born 15 November, 1842, atLoughborough Leicestershire. She married Charles GeorgeDarvall at the “house of Mrs. Scott, Stevedore Street,Williamstown” on 1 September, 1863. He was a widower, 32years of age, a commission agent of Beechworth, born atSouthhampton, Hampshire, and Christened on 25 February,1833, at the Above Bar Independent Church. His father wasGeorge and mother Eliza nee Aberdin (sic). Witnesses to themarriage were Mary Ann Laurie and Jane Scott.

Charles George Darvall and Julia Scott.

Charles George, Julia Darvall 1907

Charles George, Julia Darvall 1920's

They had nine children, six at Chiltern, one at each Beechworthand Sandhurst.

George William born 1865Florence Julia born 1866Charles Scott born 1868May Aberdin born 1870Frances Eliza born 1874Frank Alfred born 1875Alfred Henry born 1877Frances Eliza born 1874Eleanor Charlotte born 1881

They both died at Eaglehawk, a suburb of Bendigo, CharlesGeorge on 8 April, 1924, and Julia on 16 April, 1930.

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Charles George, Julia Darvall and family c.1878

Sir RogerDarvall (right) atthe RACV club.

Frances Eliza born 1874Eleanor Charlotte born 1881

William Penford Scott would have been pleased to know thatone of his great grandsons was knighted and has been a verygood businessman. Charles Roger (Sir Roger) Darvall is the sonof Charles Scott Darvall and Mabel Amy nee Rabbage born atGlen Wills, Victoria, on 11 August, 1906. Charles Scott was thethird child of Charles George and Julia.

The following is an extract from the Who’s Who inAustralia, 1988:-

“DARVALL, Sir (Charles) Roger, Kt.cr. 1971; CBE1965 F.A.S.A.; Former Company Director; son of lateC.S. Darvall, b. Aug. 11, 1906; Dir. Australia NewGuinea Corporation Ltd; Longman Australia Pty Ltd; H.C. Sleigh Ltd; Munich Reinsurance Company of AustraliaLtd; Australian Eagle Insurance Co Ltd; Broken HillPty. Co Ltd; L. M. Ericsson Pty Ltd ; GrosvenorInternational (Australia) Holdings Pty Ltd; PenguinBooks Australia Ltd; Chmn. Nuffield Foundn. Aust.Cttee 1964-70: Gen Mgr. A. N. Z. Bank Ltd. Melb. 1961-67 (Dep. Gen. Mgr. 1954-61). Commsnr. S.E.C. Vic -1960-77 m Nov. 23. 1931, Dorothea, d late A.C. Vautier,2 d; club, Athenæum; address 2 Martin Court, Toorak,Vic. 3142.”

The following appeared in the Royal Automobile Clubof Victoria Club News of October, 1988:-

“PIPECLAY: A Tradition of Fine Food and Wine

Did you know that one of the earliest formed Beefsteakand Burgundy Clubs uses the RACV Club for itsmeetings? The Pipeclay Chapter of B & B meets eachmonth, and they have been doing so since the departurein 1984 of respected restaurateur, David Triaca, from theLatin restaurant. Pipeclay Chapter was formed in 1964when seven members of Melbourne’s Naval and MilitaryClub put a more formal tag on their regular Fridaylunching. On formation. Pipeclay Chapter (Pipeclay

Charles George, Julia Darvall and family c.1878

They had nine children, six at Chiltern, one at each Beechworthand Sandhurst.

George William born 1865Florence Julia born 1866Charles Scott born 1868May Aberdin born 1870Frances Eliza born 1874Frank Alfred born 1875Alfred Henry born 1877

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was the original name of the Naval and Military Clubwhen it was formed in 1881) has gone from strength tostrength. Recently it celebrated its 24th annual meetingand awarded the first honorary life membership to SirRoger Darvall. Sir Roger, well-known as the keeper ofa fine cellar and as an international banker, first becameinterested in wines during his time as manager of ANZBanking Operations in London in the early 1950s. Heretired from the bank in 1967, but there has been noslackening of his interest in wines, and the activities ofthe Pipeclay Chapter, during his retirement years. TheChapter’s new president is Bruce Coulter, another well-known identity of the Club. Bruce,and Sir Roger aremembers also of Victoria’s oldest food and wine group,“The Friday Table”, which was formed in 1917 andmeets at Dallas Brookes Hall.”

We have already seen that Alfred Darvall came to Australia onboard the “Sir Charles Forbes” arriving in Adelaide on 8 April,1849, and have read his description of life on the voyage. Afterworking for Mr Angas (Angaston in the Barossa Valley wasnamed after him) Alfred came to Victoria in 1852 and kept intouch with the Scotts. His brother, Charles George, came outon the “Maidstone” arriving in Melbourne in January, 1858. Hemarried Emma Thomas in 1860 and they had a daughter on 4March, 1861, at Beechworth but she died the next year. ThenEmma Darvall died in 1863.

It is hoped that Sir Roger Darvall’s daughter, Margaret(Marnie) Stevens, will produce a history of the Darvallsin due course. Marnie has been a great help in my Scottresearch. She told of comments regarding Julia by hergrand daughter, Florence Goetz nee Darvall:-

“Julia and Charles George opened their home to theirgrandchildren Florence, Roger, Mollie and Lilian andtheir daughter in-law Mabel whilst their son CharlesScott Darvall was at the 1914-18 war. Their home wasin Eaglehawk, Bendigo, California Gully. Mabel taughtschool whilst there. Florence says Julia was”short andtubby” - half the height of Charles George. She wascuddly, quiet and sweet. Her own children called her“Little Mother”. Florence remembers their daughterMary did all the cooking. Julia used to sing hergrandchildren to sleep. Family prayers were held in thebig dining room.”

14.7. Thomas Penford.

The sixth child of W.P. and Jemima was Thomas Penford bornc. 1844 at Loughborough Leicestershire. He married AnnieDixon at the “house of Major (Christian name) Dixon”, GeorgeStreet, Fitzroy, on 13 April, 1870. He was an accountant, 26years old of Spenser (sic) Street, West Melbourne. Annie was22, born in Durham, England, and her father was Major Dixona plater and her mother was Martha nee White.

Their first daughter, Blanche Amanda, was born 3 April, 1871,at 88 George Street, Fitzroy. Tragically Thomas Penford diedbefore their second daughter was born. He died at 88 GeorgeStreet, Fitzroy on 3 December, 1871, of “Acute Rheumatism”.The informant of the death was his brother William who livednext door at 86 George Street. Then on 19 July, 1872, CarolineBeatrice Penford was born. This must have been a terribletragedy for Annie.

Nothing further has been found regarding Annie, BlancheAmanda or Caroline Beatrice Penford Scott. In trying to traceAnnie, the Melbourne Directories for the years 1870 to 1880were researched but her name does not appear. However, theentries for Major Dixon were as follows:-

1870 Slater, 88 George Street, Fitzroy.1872 Slater and Slate Merchant, 74a Lonsdale Street West,

p.r. 88 George Street, Fitzroy.1874 ditto1875 ditto1876 Slater and Slate Merchant, Lonsdale Street West,

p.r. 28 Gore Street, Fitzroy.1877 28 Gore Street, Fitzroy.1878 - 1880 No entry

As with Annie and her two daughters no entries could be foundregarding the Dixons in the Victorian microfiche lndices ofdeaths up to 1960, or of marriages to 1930 or births to 1913.

The Dixons arrived on board the “Joven Dolores” on 21 March,1854, Major aged 39, Amanda nee White 36 and daughter Ann(sic) aged 5. They had a further 4 children in Collingwoodbetween 1854 and 1858. Where did they go?

14.8. Frances Jemima.

The seventh and last child of W.P. and Jemima was FrancesJemima, the first Australian born Scott. She was born on 30 July,1849, at Adelaide, S.A. and arrived in Melbourne on 14November, 1849, with her mother and brothers and sisters. Shemarried Frederick Henry Wood at Grey Street, East Melbourneon 1 March, 1870. He was a draper, 20 years old born Pimlico,London, his father was also Frederick Henry a valuer of GreyStreet, East Melbourne and his mother was Sarah nee Robson.William was a witness to the marriage and the minister was Rev.Charles Clark of the Albert St

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Chapter 15.Burges/Butland.

I had almost given up obtaining anything regarding mymaternal ancestors in Somerset, England, when in March, 1991,I received a letter from John Butland Watts of Bristol, England,in answer to an entry of mine in the 1986 Genealogical ResearchDirectory. In this directory genealogists can list their intereststo allow a cross reference for others who may be researching thesame family name. My particular interest which attracted hisattention was the name BUTLAND in Cleeve and Bath, Somerset,England.

John has registered the name Butland with the Guild of OneName Studies and as a result has probably the biggest singlecollection of Butland information in the world. He produces afour-monthly journal, “Butland Ancestors and Chronicles”(BAC).

Since then we have had an ongoing exchange of information;from John Butland Watts has come many details of ancestors ofmy maternal grandmother, Frances Sabina Scott nee Burges.Her mother was Frances Elizabeth Burges nee Butland. Fromthe Victorian end I have been able to research Butlands whocame here in the last century and send him information whichhas, he tells me, been useful to him and has unearthed someButlands he did not know about previously and some in Australiawho are related to me!

My maternal grandmother’s father was George CodringtonBurges. While any reference to GCB in Victoria alwaysincluded the second name -Codrington- this Christian name wasnot found on any records in England. However it was this cluewhich led John to the parents as evidenced by the photocopy ofentry 59 in the Marriage Registers for Stanton Drew, Somerset.This entry was:-

“Thomas Burges, bachelor, and Christian (sic)Codrington, spinster, both of this parish, were married on11 April, 1803 (after Banns on 20 March, 27 March, and3 April) by William Evans, in the presence of MarthaSlade and Thomas Harding.”

The bride and groom and Martha all made their mark, and onlyThomas Harding was able to sign his own name.

Amongst other entries in the Taunton, Somerset, Record Office,Baptismal Register, John found the following entries:-

19 June. 1768 - James, son of James & Frances Codrington.23 Dec. 1770 - Christian, daughter of do12 Mar. 1811 - George, son of Thomas & Christain Burges.12 Mar. 1811 - Richard, do12 Mar. 1811 - Mary, daughter of do25 Dec. 1812 - Elizabeth do.

These only tell us that George, Richard and Mary were baptisedon 12 March, 1811 but give no clue as to when they were born;except before that date!

John then went back to the Marriage Registers and found,amongst others:-

16 Apr. 1762 - James Codrington & Frances Branch.

So now we have the following simple family tree covering over200 years:-

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The only BURGES in the 1993 Melbourne telephone directoryis William Garnet, all other BURGES’ have apparantly added afurther S to make their surnames BURGESS. William Garnetwas born in 1913 in North Fitzroy and his line is shown onFamily Trees CS 33, 27B and 27A, taking him back fivegenerations to James CODRINGTON and Frances BRANCHwho were married in 1762.

Frances Elizabeth BUTLAND who married George CodringtonBURGES c.1830 was the daughter of William and FrancesElizabeth, maiden name not known. She had one brother alsoWilliam, 1800-1847, who married Phoebe BROOKS and theyhad four children, the start of a large Butland clan in the Bristolarea of England.

One of William’s sons was Richard who emigrated to Australia.John Butland Watts will take up the story here in an extract fromhis ‘BAC’ 1/8 pp 261-262:-

“Some time ago, following the appearance of an article by me inthe Journal of the Bristol and Avon Family History Society, aShirley Stone, from Eastville, Victoria, Australia, wrote to meenquiring about maps of the Enumeration Districts of Bristol. Iwas able to provide her with the maps she wanted free of charge,so in exchange, Shirley offered to obtain any information Imight need from Victoria. I naturally accepted her kind offer,and mentioned two Australian marriage certificates in which Iwas interested, not having any idea of the cost. Almost by returnpost (bearing in mind the 24,000 mile round trip), I received bothcertificates and a note to say Shirley was “quite happy to supplythem free of charge.

The first marriage took place 12 October, 1867, at Ballarat,Victoria, between Richard Butland, a widower, and SarahMathews, a widow. The information didn’t stop there however,since Australian marriage certificates are far more informativethan their British counterparts. Richard was 45 years old, and a‘splitter’ by profession. He had been a widower since 1851, andthere was one child by his first marriage. He had been born inBristol, (my attention perked up at this point), the son ofWilliam Butland a ‘plain maker’, (plane)(the bells definitelybegan to ring at this point), and Phoeby Brooks, (I made a divefor one of my Butland files). I didn’t need my computer to tellme that Richard was in fact a descendant of the Bristol Branchof Butlands, FR040, and what is more important, we didn’t haveany idea of his existence until this marriage certificate arrivedfrom Australia. So now we have a whole new Australian branchof Butlands linked up with FR040 of Bristol. I will leave thestory there, because I don’t want to pre-empt this branchesmoment in the lime-light, but I assure you, we will return to theBristol Butlands, both within this issue and in some futureedition of BAC.”

The Victorian Pioneers Index, 1837-1888 was recently preparedand issued. All birth, marriage and deaths registered in thatperiod were re-indexed in alphabetical order. There were tenentries for BUTLAND and all relate back to Richard. As Johnwrites, “In case you hadn’t realized it, they are all related toyou”, that is to me!

There is a small mystery here, Richard Butland had a sister, Jane,born in England in 1837. He came to Melbourne on board the“Courier” which arrived on 11 September, 1849. The disposallist for the ship showed:-

Calling agedRichard (unreadable) Male 26

disengaged on own account.Ann Housekeeper Female 23John Son Male 6Jane Daughter Female 12

This Jane must have been his younger sister. Nothing could befound regarding her in the marriage or death indices for Victoriabut John Butland Watts has her death in 1859 at Clifton inSomerset.

The voyage of the “Courier” is described in some detail byFlorence Chuk in her book “The Somerset Years” and it providesinteresting reading.

George Codrington and Frances Elizabeth Burges had eightchildren all born in Yatton, Cleeve, Somerset between 1832 and1847. The first was Theophilys Baird and nothing further isknown of him except that he was shown living with them in the1841 Census.Until recently it was thought that there were only seven childrenwith one named Alfred C. born c. 1847 and died 1862 atTaunton. However, a letter received from Florence Chuk on 4May, 1993, included the following information:-

a. from the Parish Baptismal Registers-1835 Aug 16 Thomas Srevens Burges son of George andFrances Elizabeth, painter of Cleve (sic), Yatton.1837 Jun 4 Frances Sabina daughter of do do1839 Jan 13 Alfred Codrington Burges son do do

b. Alfred Cobden Burges aged 22, died in Victoria in 1868.I obtained the death certificate of Alfred Cobden and it showedthe following new information. He died 31 December, 1868 at62 Burke Street East, Melbourne (the home of Charles Georgeand Georgina Trinity Carr, his sister) he was 22 years of agefather George Burges, builder, mother Frances Elizabeth formerlyBUTLER (sic) informant was Thomas Burges, brother, 64Smith Street, Collingwood born Somersetshire 5 years in Victoria.From this information a second son Alfred C. was added to thefamily tree, Alfred Codrington born c. 1838 who must have diedin infancy. This eliminated the Alfred who died 1862 at Tauntonwho was replaced on the family tree by Alfred Cobden born c.1847 who arrived in Melbourne c.1863. No entry was found forhim arriving either in the assisted or unassisted indices. Note thesecond christian name, COBDEN, which was also the christianname of Frederick Cobden Butland, the “skeleton in thecupboard” shown below. Who was COBDEN?

George Codrington was shown on the 1841 Census as a plastererand the 1851 Census as a master painter and plasterer. He diedin 1855 the death being registered in the Taunton Record Office.The 1861 Census has Frances Elizabeth Burges living in the PostOffice, 12 Cleeve Street, Yatton, Somerset as the Post Mistress.

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Living next door at No. 14 were Frederick Butland and hisfamily, they will appear soon!

Information from the Census returns are as follows:-

The 1841 Census shows a Frederick Butland, age 15, plasterer’sApprentice, as living with Frances Elizabeth and GeorgeCodrington Burges, but not in 1851. However, in 1861 he isshown as living next door at 14 Cleeve, Street together with wifeHarriet and three children. Frederick was born in The Strand,London, Middlesex. John Butland Watts has sent me a copy ofFrances Elizabeth Butland’s will and Probate Document thecontents as below. She died on 17 November, 1841.

“This is the last Will and Testament of me FRANCESBUTLAND of Cleve in the Parish of Yatton in the County ofSomerset - First I give and bequeath unto my Son WilliamButland of the City of Bristol Plane Maker the Sum of Fivepounds to purchase mourning Clothes and to be paid him by myExecutrix hereinafter named immediately after my decease Igive devise and bequeath unto my Daughter Frances Burgesnow the Wife of George Burges of Cleve aforesaid TilerPlasterer and Painter and Painter the Sum of twenty five poundsUpon trust to lay out and invest the same upon real or personalSecurity and to pay and apply the same together with the interestfrom time to time to become due thereon or on any lefs (sic) Sumunto my said Son William by equal quarterly payments of Twopounds to be paid to him, at the four most usual quarter days ofpayment in the year videlecit, on the twenty fifth day of March,the twenty fourth day of June, the twenty ninth day of September

and the twenty first day of December in every year until the saidsum of Twenty five pounds shall be fully paid and satisfied thefirst quarterly payment thereof to begin and be made, on such ofthe said quarter days as shall first happen next after my decease;but in, case my said Son William shall die before me shall havebeen fully paid and satisfied the said Sum of Twenty Fivepounds then and in such case I direct my said Daughter Francesto divide such a sum, as shall remain unpaid to my said Son,equally between all and every the Child and Children of my saidSon who shall be living at his decease share and share alike, andif but one such Child then to such only Child his or her Executorsadministrators and afsigns - I also give and bequeath unto mysaid Daughter Frances Burges the further Sum of Ten poundsUpon trust to place the same out at interest on real or personalsecurity until her Son Frederick Butland shall attain the age ofTwenty one Years and then Upon trust to pay the said Sum ofTen Pounds together with all Interest due thereon unto the saidFrederick Butland to whom I give and bequeath the same AndI do hereby declare that in case the said Frederick Butland shalldepart this life before he shall attain the age of Twenty one Yearsthat the said sum of Ten pounds and all interest due thereon shallfall - Frances Butland - Witnefses - Rob. M. Crooke - EmmaAtherton - into and form part of my residuary personal Estatehereinafter given and bequeathed Provided always and I dohereby further declare and direct that it shall be lawful for my

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said Daughter Frances Burges at any time and from time to timeafter my decease if in her discretion she shall think fit and properto advance to my said Son William and also to her Son the saidFrederick Butland such sum or sums of money not exceeding thesaid Sums of Twenty five pounds and Ten pounds respectivelyhereinbefore given and bequeathed for their or either of theiradvancement in the world All the rest residue and remainder ofmy Estate and effects both real and personal and whether inpofsefsion reversion remainder or expectancy and of whatnature sort or kind soever (subject to the payment of my justdebts funeral and testamentary expenses I give devise andbequeath the same unto my said Daughter Frances Burges herheirs executors administrators and afsigns according to thenature or quality of the same to and for her and their ownabsolute use benefit and disposal And I hereby nominateconstitute and appoint my said daughter Frances Burges soleExecutrix of this my last Will and Testament and herebyrevoking all former Wills Codicils and other Testamentarydispositions do declare this only to be my last Will and TestamentIn Witnefs whereof I have to this my Will contained in twosheets of paper set my hand to each sheet thereof this fifth dayof November One thousand eight hundred and forty one - FrinceButland - Signed by the Testator Frances Butland in the presenceof us present at the same time who in her presence at her requestand in the presence of each other have hereunto set our Namesas Witnefses thereto - Rob. M. Crooke - Yatton Somerset -Emma Atherton Servent (sic) to Mr Burges Cleve :/:-”

There follows a signature and position.

A further document has this to say:-

DIOCESE of BATH and WELLS.

In the Goods of Frances ) In the ConsistorideButland deceased. ) Episcopal Court of Wells

7th December 1841

APPEARED personally Frances Burges (Wife of GeorgeBurges of Cleve in the Parish of Yatton in the County ofSomerset Tiler and Plasterer) the sole — Executrix named in thelast Will and Testament—— of the said Frances Butland lateof the Parish of Yatton aforesaid Widow — who died on theSeventeenth day of November 1841, and made oath and said thatthe Personal Estate and Effects of the said Deceased, for or inrespect of which a Probate of the said Will is to be granted by thesaid Court, exclusive of what the Deceased may have beenpossed of or intitled to as a Trustee for any other Person orPersons, and not beneficially, and without deducting any thingon account of the Debts due and owing from the Deceased, areunder the value of Two HUNDRED —Pounds to the best of thisDeponents knowledge, information and belief. AND thisDeponent lastly made oath and said that the Deceased was notat the time of her death possessed of or intitled to any LeasholdEstate or Estates for Years either absolute or determinable on aLife or Lives to the best of her knowledge, information andbelief.

F Burges (signed)

Sworn on the same Day, Before meT H Hawes(Title not decipherable)

The Will reveals, as John wrote, a “skeleton in the cupboard”!Frances Elizabeth Butland prior to marriage to G,C.Burges,gave birth in 1825 in London to Frederick Cobden Butland whodied in Bristol in 1862. He married a Harriet in 1845 inBedminster and they had five children, the first (another) FrancesElizabeth in 1846 in Bedminster, then Wallis (Wallace) Williamalso in Bedminster in 1848. Then three born in Cheltenham,England, Agnes Eliza, 1853; Albert Cabden (sic) and WalterWilliam in 1856 (twins).

Note that Frederick lived with his mother and her husband, G.C.Burges, in his teens and worked with G.C.B. as an apprentice.Then later after he married he lived next door.

Apart from Theophilys Baird and Alfred, the other Burgeschildren were:-

Theophilys Baird Born c. 1832 * Thomas Stevens 1835 * Frances Sabina 1837

Alfred Codrington 1838 * Georgina Trinity 1840 * Florance Alice 1843 * Albert 1844

Alfred Cobden 1847

Georgina Trinity came to Melbourne on her own on board the“Ocean Home” arriving in Melbourne on 20 August, 1860. Thepassenger list shows her as from Somerset, a nursemaid, Churchof England, could read and write, 20 years of age and engagedby John Hart of Chilwell, Victoria for a wage of £20 and for aterm of three years. She married Charles George Carr on 15April, 1861 at Newtown Geelong. He was shown as a TemperanceAdvocate or Collector on marriage and death certificates wasborn at Halifax, Yorkshire c. 1833 and as far as can be ascertainedhe came to Melbourne on his own on board the “Wild Ranger”arriving on 11 March, 1858. He died on 1 August, 1901, at 63Newry Street, North Firzroy. Georgina Trinity died on 29August, 1924, at Beaumaris, exact address not known. Mybrother who would have been 19 at the time has no recollectionof her being in Beaumaris.

Georgina Trinity Carr seems to have been the closest to Williamand Frances Sabina. My brother born in 1905 remembersGeorgina as “Auntie Carr” and visiting her on occasions. Hersecond child Ada Alice Trinity was the informant shown on mymother’s birth certificate as “Ada Carr, Cousin”. She wouldhave been only 15 years old at the time and lived at Hilton Street,Clifton Hill.

Those shown * above came on the “Devonshire” which leftBristol on 30 April, 1863, arriving in Melbourne on 22 August,1863. With them was the wife of Thomas Stevens, Sarah Ann

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nee Rogers. It is thought that Hannah Rogers nee Duckett,mother of Sarah Ann Burges also came to Melbourne on the“Devonshire”. The death certificate issued after she died on 14April, 1877, showed her as being born in Somersetshire, herparents as Edwin and Hannah Duckett, married to FrancisRogers in Bristol at age 28 and being 14 years in Victoria. Thiswould put her arrival date as 1863. However, her name does notappear on the shipping list but amongst the Burges’ is a MrsParker aged 55. Was this Hannah Rogers who would have been65? Other ages were incorrect, E.G., Frances Elizabeth Burgesshown as 52 was actually 59. It was quite usual for ages to beput back for emigrants, particularly if assisted, coming toAustralia during these early years of settlement.

Conclusion:

Not really conclusion! Research is ongoing in ever wideningcircles. What will the next mail bring? Something of WilliamPenford Scott’s life and times at Nottingham or Loughborough,or where else? When did and how did Maria Baker go back toAdelaide? What is the mystery of Thomas Pottinger in Australia?

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“The Age”, Melbourne.“The Adelaide Times”.“The Argus”, Melbourne.“The Register” Adelaide.“The South Australian”.

Royal Automobile Club of Victoria, Club News, October,1988.

Simmons, Rev. P.N., Report in The Baptist Witness,1953.

Watts, John Butland, Butland Ancestors and Chronicles,various issues.

Books.

Australian Dictionary of Biography 1851-1890. Carlton,Victoria, Melbourne University Press, 1976

Beedel,F, (Memoir) Letters and Other Writings of theLate Pastor Daniel Allen, Geo. Booth and Co., 1901.

Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885,Adelaide, S.A. Genealogical & Heraldic Society Inc. 1986 (4vols.).

Brown, Basil S., Members One of Another, The BaptistUnion of Victoria, 1962.

Chandler, John, Forty Years in the Wilderness, Hartwell,Vic., The Author, 1893.

Charlwood, Don, The Long Farewell and Wrecks andReputations, Angus & Robertson, 1977.

Chuk, Florence, The Somerset Years, Ballarat, Vic.,Pennard Hill Publications, 1987.

Collins Street Baptist Church, Melbourne, 1843-1968,125th, Anniversary.

Fiddian, Rev. J. R. , Robert Mitchell of the Inland, 1931.

Freeland, J.M., Melbourne Churches 1836-1851, AnArchitectural Record, Melbourne University Press, 1963.

“Garryowen” (Edmund Finn), Chronicles of EarlyMelbourne, 1835-1852, Ferguson & Mitchell, 1868.

Harrison, Dorothy, Ed., The History of Colne, PendleHeritage Centre Ltd., 1988.

Johnston, K.A., & Sainty, M.R., (Joint Eds.).Genealogical Research Directories, Sydney, N.S.W. The Editors,1985 and 1986.

Lawson, Will, Blue Gum Clippers and WhaleShips of Tasmania, Georgian House, Melbourne, 1949.

Appendix A. Bibliography.

Documents.

Albert Street Baptist Church - List of Members - Firstand Second Books 1851-1909.

British Census Records - 1841, 1851 and 1861.

Collins Street Baptist Church, Melbourne, Minute BookNo. 1, 1842.

The Horton Academy, Bradford, England - AcademicRecords, etc., etc., 1832.

Hughes, Ian, Port Phillip Clergy, Melbourne, 1982.

International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) Church of theLatter Day Saints, Salt Lake, Utah, U.S.A.

The Melbourne Mechanics’ Institute (Athenæum),Minutes, 1850.

North Adelaide Baptist Church, Historical Notes,Seventy-fifth Anniversary, 1843-1923.

Rockhampton (Queensland) Baptist Tabernacle, MinuteBooks and Members Rolls.

Victoria, South Australia and Queensland Birth, Deathand Marriage Registers.

Victorian Public Records Office Shipping and ProbateRecords.

Winchcombe, Leila J. “The Melbourne Athenæum”.The Author’ 1986. (Secretary The Melbourne Athenæum)

Non Published Works.

Darvall, Alfred, Journal of the Voyage to Australia,1849.

Hinds, John, Albert Street Baptist Church - A Thesis forthe Fellowship Diploma on Interior Design, R.MT. 1974,Unpublished.

Newspapers and Journals.

The Baptist Church - 90 Years of Service at NorthAdelaide.

“The Messenger” Anniversary Souvenir, May, 1838.

A Brief History of the Baptist Churches in theLeicestershire Association, England.

Baptist Manual, 1857, England.

The Freeman, England, 20 August, 1856, J. Heaton &Son.

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Lloyds' Shipping Registers, 1824-1852.

Melbourne Directories, 1851-1924, Various Publishers.

Manton, Jill, A History of Kew Baptist Church, 1856-1981.

Parsons, R., Migrant Ships for South Australia, 1836-1850, Adelaide, The Author.

Rowston, Laurence F., Baptists in Van Dieman’s Land,The Baptist Union of Tasmania, 1988.

Wilkin, Rev. F.J., Baptists in Victoria - Our First Century1838- 1938, Baptist Union of Victoria, 1939.

Who’s Who in Australia, XXVi, ed. Melbourne, Vic. .

Yates, Dora, The Baptists in Colne, 1985.

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Appendix B.Family Trees.

Index to Family Trees.

(SCOTT unless otherwise designated)

CS.1A Thomas/William Penford/William/Evelyn Jane1B Edward RICE2. John BAKER3. Edward Pottinger4. Cuthbert FOX5. Edward/Edward Gardiner6. Marian Stubbings7. Marian Beaumont8. Gwenneth Marian WALTERS9. Ruth Ada WALTERS10. Jeanette WALTERS11. Edith Ada12. Walter Bracher13. Frederick Joseph14. James Pearce15. William Penford II16. Cuthbert Fox17. Francies/Francis18. Elizabeth Ann19. Richard/Thomas George DAVEY20. Albert Septimus21. Herbert Ernest22. Mable Jane23. Eva Jemima II24A. Mary Ann I24B. James LAURIE25. Mary Ann II26. Herbert Samuel CHANDLER27. James CODRINGTON/George Codrington BURGES28A. William BUTLAND28B. William BUTLAND29. Thomas Stevens BURGES30. Edwin DUCKETT31. George/ Charles George CARR32. William/George Thomas EDWARDS33. Albert BURGES34. William KEEL35. Mabel Frances Susan/Ethel May BURGES36. Florence Georgina BURGES37. George/Alfred DARVALL38. Charles George DARVALL/Julia39. Thomas Penford40. Major DIXON41. Frances Jemima42. George Goodnight/Frederick Henry I/II/WOOD43. Rolicker CHANDLER

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LEGEND

For SCOTT Family Trees

ARR Arrived B. BornDBY Derbyshire Bp. BaptisedDOR Dorsetshire Bu. BuriedDUR Durham c. Circa (about)ENG England D. DiedGLS Gloucestershire DV. DivorcedHAM Hampshire M. MarriedIND India SP. SeparatedIRE Ireland UK. UnknownITL Italy UM. UnmarriedKEN Kert + No IssueLAN LancashireLEI LeicestershireLON LondonNBL NorthumberlandNSW New South WalesNTT NottinghamshireQLD QueenslandRES ResidenceSA South AustraliaSCT ScotlandSOM SomersetTAS TasmaniaVIC VictoriaWA Western AustraliaWIC Wicklow, IrelandWLS WalesYKS Yorkshire

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Appendix C.

BIRTH, DEATH and MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES.

BIRTHS.

1. Frances Jemima SCOTT 30 Jul. 18492. Francis William LAURIE 23 Feb.18633. Blanche Amanda SCOTT 3 Apr. 18714. Caroline Beatrice Penford SCOTT 19 Jul. 18725. Thomas Pottinger SCOTT 12 Feb. 18736. Annie Beatrice SCOTT 27 Feb. 18767. Herbert Samual CHANDLER 18 Jul. 18808. Evelyn Jane SCOTT 15 Nov. 18809. Alfred William Herbert CHANDLER 1 Jun. 190510. Rolicker CHANDLER 27 Jan. 191811. Gwendoline Stewart LINDSAY 31 Oct. 191812. William SCOTT 23 Apr. 1841

DEATHS.

1. William Penford SCOTT 7Apr. 18562. Thomas Srevens BURGES 21 Jan. 18713. Thomas Penford SCOTT 3 Dec. 18714, Jemima SCOTT 16 Aug. 18785. Frances Elizabeth BURGES 24 Aug. 18936. Jane SCOTT 4 Jun. 18967. Mary Eliza SCOTT 26 Mar. 19068. Charles George CARR 1 Aug. 19079. Francis SCOTT 23 Oct. 190710. Albert BURGES 29 Dec. 190911. Edward Pottinger SCOTT 6 Jul. 191212. Frances Sabina SCOTT 8 Jul. 191913. William SCOTT 28 Sep. 192214. Georgina Trinity CARR 29 Aug. 192415. William Penford SCOTT II 21 Jan. 192816. Julia DARVALL 16 Apr. 193017. Herbert Samuel CHANDLER 12 Nov. 195018. Evelyn Jane CHANDLER 25 Mar. 196519. Cuthbert Fox SCOTT 4 Feb. 1926

MARRIAGES.

1. Edward Pottinger SCOTT & Elizabeth Anne FOX 10 Feb. 18572. Francis LAURIE & Mary Ann SCOTT 31 Jul. 18603. Charles George CARR & Georgina Trinity BURGES 15 Apr. 18614. Cuthbert FOX & Johanna CONDON 27 Feb. 18625. Charles George DARVALL & Julia SCOTT 1 Sep. 18636. Albert BURGES & Emma Creyghton KEEL 16 Mar. 18677. George Thomas EDWARDS & Florence Alice BURGES 23 Feb. 18698. Frederick Henry WOOD & Frances Jemima SCOTT 1 Mar. 18709. Thomas Penford SCOTT & Annie DIXON 12. Apr.187010. William SCOTT & Frances Sabina BURGES 29 Sep. 187011. David BOWDEN & Matilda TALBETT 29 Oct. 185012. Francis SCOTT & Bertha Christina DAVEY 20. May 188513. Herbert Samuel CHANDLER & Evelyn Jane SCOTT 13 Apr. 190314. Rolicker CHANDLER & Gwendoline Stewart LINDSAY 19 Jun. 194115. William Penford SCOTT & Jemima BAKER 17 Jun. 183516. Thomas BURGES & Christian CODRINGTON 11 Apr. 1803

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Burges George Codrington 45, 56, 57, 58, 61Burges Georgina Trinity 60Burges Sarah Ann 60Burges Theophilys Baird 57, 58, 60Burges Thomas Stevens 57, 58, 60Burges William Garnet 58Burns Thomas 28Bush Issac 58Bush Thomas 58Butcher Rev. David 15Butland Agnes Eliza 60Butland Albert Cobden 60Butland Ann 58Butland Frances Elizabeth 58, 59, 60Butland Frances Elizabeth 11 60Butland Frederick Cobden 58, 59, 60Butland Harriet 59, 60Butland Jane 58Butland John 58Butland Richard 58Butland Wallis (Wallace) 60Butland Walter William 60Butland William 58, 59Caldwell William 41, 42Cameron Donald 44Cameron John 44Cameron Laura Macleod 44Cameron Marion 44Cameron Mary Ann 44Campbell J. 23Campbell James 23Cannon Michael 4Canterbury Viscount 29Capes Rev. George 16Carr Ada Alice Trinity 60Carr Charles George 57, 58, 59, 60Carr Georgina Trinity 57, 58, 59Carroll E.J. 29Chandler Alfred William Herbert 49, 51, 52, 57Chandler Daniel John 26Chandler D & W Ltd. 32, 46, 51, 52, 53Chandler David Andrew 57Chandler Evelyn Jane 45, 46, 47, 49, 57Chandler Geoffrey John 57Chandler Gwendoline Stewart 34, 57Chandler Herbert Samuel 37, 46, 48, 49, 57Chandler Hilary Clare 54, 57Chandler Ian Murray 54, 57Chandler John 4, 26, 36Chandler John Lindsay 4, 54, 57Chandler Kathryn Clare 57Chandler Peter Charles Stewart 57Chandler Rolicker 4, 49, 57Chandler Ruth 4, 46Chandler Stephen 5, 6, 26Chandler Timothy George 57Charlwood Don 42Chever Capt. W. J. 24, 25Chuk Florence 58Churnside Col. 50

IndexAberdin Eliza 54Adams Captain 17Albrecht Henry 10Aldis, Rev. John Senior 41Allen Daniel 24 26 27Alsop Paul John 18, 19,20Alumburgh 44Anderson Hugh 10Anderson Mary 52Angas Mr. 56Ann Milne 34 Aston Joseph 18, 19Atherton Emma 59Australia 24Aveline Rev. George 16Bail Fred 52Baker Ann 40Baker Charles 21Baker Jane 12, 40, 45Baker Jemima 3, 12Baker John 21, 40Baker Joy 4, 21, 25Baker Maria 3, 21, 24, 25, 26, 40, 41, 61Baker Mary Ann 21Baker Thomas 21Baker Thomas Curtis 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 40, 41Baker Sarah 21Baker William 21, 40Ballantyne Rev. James 34Barnett Eliza 18Batman John 4, 5Bayne David 41Beedel F. 26Bell J. 18Berriman D. 44Blair Mr. 31Born I. 24Boundy Mabel 43Bowden David 34Bowden J. 23Boyd Charlotte 18, 19Branch Frances 57, 58Branch William 58Bressy Ruth 18Brewer Dr. Joseph 15Brooks Phoebe 58Brown John of Como 5Browne Rev. Dr. Basil 25Brownridge David Craig Robert 57Budden Robt 18, 20Bumpus Rev. T. 16Bunce Dr. 18, 19Bunce J. 18, 19Burges Albert 46, 58, 60Burges Alfred Cobden 57, 58, 60Burges Alfred Codrington 57, 58, 60Burges Christian 57Burges Florance Alice 56,60Burges Frances Elizabeth 32, 33, 45, 56, 57, 58, 59, 61Burges Frances Sabina 37, 45, 57, 58, 60

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IndexBurges George Codrington 45, 56, 57, 58, 61Burges Georgina Trinity 60Burges Sarah Ann 60Burges Theophilys Baird 58, 60Burges Thomas 57Burges Thomas Stevens 58, 60Burges William Garnet 58Burns Thomas 28Butcher Rev. David 15Butland Agnes Eliza 60Butland Albert Cobden 60Butland Ann 58Butland Frances Elizabeth 57, 58, 59, 60Butland Frances Elizabeth 11 60Butland Frances Sabina 57, 58Butland Frederick Cobden 58, 59, 60Butland Harriet 59, 60Butland Jane 58Butland John 58Butland Richard 58Butland Wallis (Wallace) 60Butland Walter William 60Butland William 45, 58, 59Caldwell William 41, 42Cameron Donald 44Cameron John 44Cameron Laura Macleod 44Cameron Marion 44Cameron Mary Ann 44Campbell J. 23Cannon Michael 4Canterbury Viscount 29Capes Rev. George 16Carr Ada Alice Trinity 60Carr Charles George 58, 59, 60Carr Georgina Trinity 58, 59Carroll E.J. 29Chandler Alfred William Herbert 46, 49, 51, 52, 57Chandler Daniel John 26Chandler D & W Ltd. 32, 46, 51, 52, 53Chandler David Andrew 57Chandler Evelyn Jane 45, 46, 47, 49, 57Chandler Geoffrey John 57Chandler Gwendoline Stewart 34, 46, 57Chandler Herbert Samuel 37, 46, 48, 49, 57Chandler Hilary Clare 54, 57Chandler Ian Murray 54, 57Chandler Iris Ilma 46Chandler John 4, 26, 46Chandler John Lindsay 4, 54, 57Chandler Kathryn Clare 57Chandler Peter Charles Stewart 57Chandler Rolicker 4, 46, 49, 53, 57Chandler Ruth 4, 46Chandler Stephen 5, 6, 26Chandler Timothy George 57Charlwood Don 42Chever Capt. W. J. 24, 25Chuk Florence 58Churnside Col. 50

Clark Rev. Charles 56Cliff Harry 50Cloak Ann 18Clow Rev. J 7Codrington Christian 57Codrington Elizabeth 57Codrington Frances 57Codrington George 57Codrington James 1 & 11, 57, 58Codrington Mary 57Codrington Richard 57Cooper J 18, 19Cooper Rev. J. 16Cooper John 18Coulter Bruce 55Courier 58Cowley Charles 41Cox George 59Cox John 23Crook Samuel 5, 6Crook V. 24Culliver Norm 49Darvall Alfred 18, 20, 40, 56Darvall Alfred Henry 54Darvall Charles George 40, 54, 55, 56Darvall Sir Roger, Charles Roger 55Darvall Charles Scott 54, 55Darvall Eleanor Charlotte 54Darvall Eliza 54Darvall Emma 56Darvall Florence 56Darvall Florence Julia 54Darvall Frances Eliza 54Darvall Frank Alfred 54Darvall George 54Darvall George William 54Darvall Julia 44, 54, 55Darvall Mabel Amy 55Darvall May Aberdin 54Davey Bertha Christina 44Davey George Albert 44Davey Sarah C. 44Davey Thomas G. 44Davis George 23Dawson Maria 40de Bruin (Dutchy) 51Demford John 3Devonshire 59, 60Dewar Andrew 18, 19Dixon Amanda 55Dixon Annie 37,55Dixon Major 56Dixon Martha 56Dobbs J. 45Dorothy 23Dowling Pastor B. 26Duckett Edwin and Hannah 60, 61Dumas Alexander 53Dyer Mr. 6Eddones Charles 18

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IndexEdwards Morris 10Evans John 10Evans Trevor 50Evans William 57Facer Thomas H. 10Fawkner John Pascoe 5Fayers Charlotte 18Feenaughty Leo 50Fiddian Rev. J. R. 21Finn Edmund 35Forbes James Nicol (Bully) Capt. 43Forbes Rev.James 5,28Fosdyke Marion Elizabeth 41Fox Anne 43Fox Catherine 43Fox Cuthbert 43Fox Cuthbert Hope 43Fox Elizabeth Anne 41Foy Rev. Joseph 31Frankland. George 5Frew Geoff 50Fullard Jennifer 4Fullarton Capt. 17Gamoga (New Guinea) 53Gardiner John 28Garlick Moses 23Gem 5Gill John 7Gipps Sir George 28Goetz Florence 56Gouge Geo 27Graham George 49Gray Rev. Joshua 16Green Alfred 18, 19Greening R. 44Griffin Charles E. 18, 19Griffiths Isaac 10Gronow Bill 50Grylls Rev. James Couch 5Hake Charles 18, 20Hale T. 24Hall Alex 17Hall Rev. Robert 16Ham Cornelius J 6Ham Jabez 6Ham Rev John 4, 6, 7Ham Rev R.N. 4Ham Thomas 6, 27Harbottle Joseph 12, 45Harbottle Mary E. 45Hardie Leo & Bruce 50Harding Thomas 57Harper Frederick 18Hart John 60Harvey Ruth 26Hawes T H 59Hedgecock Martha Smith 43Hewlett James 10Hewlett Rev. Dr. 31, 36Hinds John 37

Hodges James 43Hoe Benaiah 10Hollick Mrs. 23Hollins Charles 23Hooper Ann Elizabeth 57Hooton Eliza 27Hooton John 23, 24, 27Hope Catherine Margaret 43Hutchinson Rev. J 38Irving Capt. 23Jackson John 12Jardine Ron. 50Jones John 10Jones Roth 52Joven Dolores 56Kearney Mr. & Mrs. 45Kerr Robert 23, 24Kilner Mary Ann 18King C. H. 24Kling Jack 50La Trobe C.J. 7, 28Lahey John 4Lamb John 4Landells Rev. W. B. 31, 38Langlands Henry 27, 31Langlands T.A. 24Lansbury Harry 58Laurie Francis 44Laurie James 44Laurie Jane 44Laurie Mary Ann 40, 44, 54Lawrie William Scott 44, 45Lempriere Peter 52Le Pine S. J. 44Lewis Emily 42Lewis Mary 42Lewis Phebe 27Lewis R.32Lewis Richard 27Lindsay Gwendoline Stewart 48, 53, 57Lightning 43Linton Jim. 52Loch Sir Henry 29Lonsdale Captain 28Lovelock 23Lush John 5, 6, 7, 24, 26, 27, 31M'Carthy William 10Maidstone 56Manders Charlotte 18, 19, 20Mann Rev. Isaac 9, 33Marco Polo 43Marsh David 10Marshall Elizabeth 40Marshall Mary Ann 40Marshall Thomas 40Martin Bill 50Masters Hannah 27Masters Joseph 27Mathews Sarah 58Measam Ann 40

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IndexMeasam Curtis 40Measam Jemima 40Melba Dame Nellie 49Miles Barton 43Miller Mr. 5Milne Isabella 34Mitchell Dr 23Mitchell Robert 21Monger Mr. 7Morgan John 10Morton H.E 29Mouritz G. A. 6, 24Mouritz John Joseph 5, 6Meypsted Wm 18, 19Napier Thomas 5, 6, 7Nelson Elizabeth 43New Rev. Isaac 9, 16, 25, 37, 38Nisbett James Frederick 3Noble William 42O'Brien Daniel S. 18, 19O'Brien Mat. 50Ocean Home 60Park James 13Parker Mrs. 61Parsons Eliza 18Paul Mr. 18Peacock Edward J. 6Pechey Rev. W (MA) 16Penford Mary Ann 9Pitt John 27Pitt Mary 27Polly Woodside 17Pottinger Jane 13, 15, 41Pottinger Rev. Thomas 10, 12, 15, 40, 41, 61Pound I 23, 24, 29, 30Powell Mr. & Mrs. T. W. 18, 19Powell Rev. Dr. Gordon 34Procter J.23Prynn William Henry Capt. 17, 18Queen 43Rabbage Mabel Amy 55Rainbow Chris 50Ramsay Rev. Andrew Mitchell 33, 34Ramsay Robert 35Reeves Robert 5Reid Allan 50Rice Ann 15, 16Rice Edward 9Rice Elizabeth 3, 9Rice Thomas 16Rogers Francis 60Rogers Hannah 61Royal John 41Sands David 18, 19, 20Saunders Rev. J. 7Schomberg 42, 43Scott Annie 56Scott Annie Beatrice 46, 48Scott Blanche Amanda 56Scott Caroline Beatrice Penford 56

Scott Cuthbert Fox 41, 42, 43, 44Scott Edith Georgina 32, 33, 45, 46, 48Scott Edward 41Scott Edward Pottinger 3, 12, 15, 18, 40, 41, 44Scott Eliza 9Scott Eliza Smith 3, 9Scott Elizabeth Annie 44Scott Evelyn Jane 37, 46, 57Scott Frances Alice Jemima 32, 33, 46Scott Frances Jemima3,15, 24, 37, 56Scott Frances Sabina 32, 33, 37, 45, 46, 48, 57, 60Scott Francis 44Scott Herbert Ernest 41Scott Jane 3, 15, 18, 38, 40, 44, 45, 54Scott Jemima 3, 13, 15, 21, 24, 25, 26, 32, 33, 40, 44, 45, 56Scott Julia 3, 15, 18, 40, 44, 54, 56Scott Mary Ann 3, 15, 41, 44Scott Mary Ann Rice 3, 9Scott Thomas 3, 9Scott Thomas Penford 3, 9, 15, 18, 37, 56Scott William 3, 15, 18, 32, 33, 37, 40, 44, 45, 46, 48, 55, 57, 60Scott William Penford 11, 41, 42, 43Sievers Bill 50Sim A 28Simmons Fl. Lt. 51Simmons Rev. Philip N. 39Simpson Jemima 18, 19, 20Sir Charles Forbes 3, 17, 18, 21, 40, 56Skey J. Capt. 23Slade Martha 57Smedmore James 10Smith Rev. James 16Souvenir 3, 23Spiers Henry 18, 19Stanford Rev. Charles 16Steadman Rev. William 9, 37St Kape Rev. Charles 40Stevens Margaret (Marnie) 4, 18, 44, 56Stevenson Rev. T. 16Stewart S. 23Stewart W.A. 23Stone Shirley 58Stonehouse Rev. George 21, 23Stretton Phillip 53Stretton Mrs. 53Struss Miss 4, 24Sunter Mr. 50Sweetman Rev. E 7Symonds Rev. 31Symons George 31Talbett Letitia 30Talbett Mary 30Talbett Matilda 34Talbot Frank 29Taroona 53Taylor David 10Taylor I. 23, 24Taylor John 27Taylor Mary 27Taylor Rev. James 37, 38

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Teague Edith Ada 42Theobald Edmund 10Thomas David 10Thomas E 8Thomas Emma 56Thomas John 23Thompson Donald 10Thomson A 24Thwaits Thomas 19Townsend Rev. 31Traill Cliff 51Triaca David 55Tugwood J. 23Tunley Richard 10Turner Pastor John 26Vaughan Charles The Hon.24, 27Vincent Mary 27Virtue Peter 5Ward Miss 41Wardlaw David 52Watts Eliza Stockley 42Watts John Butland 57, 58Watts Mary Eliza 42Watts Thomas 37, 38Watts William Edward 42Webb James 10White .J.K.23White Martha 56Whitelaw Charles 50Wicks Edward Walter 23Wild Ranger 60Wilkins Rev. George D.D 13, 28Wilkinson Ron 52Wilson James 5Winchcombe Leila J. 28Wishart James 19Wood Frederick Henry 37, 55Wood Mary 15, 16Wood Sarah 55Woodford 19, 20Woodforde James 18Wright Marjorie 42Yates Dora 13, 16 Young Julie Ann 57

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