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Propagation in Polymer PFT

Madhavan Varadarajan

Raman Research Institute, Bangalore, India

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 1

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Non-uniqueness of Hamiltonian con-straint in LQG:Classical Ham constr depends on local connection field A.

But in LQG , no local connection operator, only holonomy

operators. Cant construct Ham constr oprtr by A → A in

classical expression.

Follow Thiemann Strategy:

- Introduce triangulation Tδ of Cauchy slice Σ with Tδ→0 = Σ.

- Define approximants to (A, E) in terms of holonomy -fluxes

of small loops, surfaces associated with Tδ.

-Substitute in expression for Ham constr to get approximant

Hδ so that Ham constraint = Hδ→0.

- Replace classical holonomy-flux in Hδ by quantum oprtrs,

get Hδ.

- Define Ham constr oprtr as ‘continuum limit’ Hδ→0.

Remarkably, limit operator can be defined. Problem is it

depends on choice of hol-flux approximants at finite Tδ.

Infinitely Non-Unique!.Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 2

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Cut down on non-uniqueness by imposing further

requirements E.g. Require operator be defined on Hilbert

space (Jurek,Hanno,Assanioussi....).Require non-trivial

anomaly free repn of constraint algebra(Laddha,Tomlin,..).

In this talk: try to address Smolin’s propagation requirement.

Smolin: Requires that the quantum dynamics be such that it

propagates perturbations from one part of quantum

geometry to another (this propagation thought of as

nonpert seed of graviton propagation in semiclassical LQG).

Argues that requirement not met in LQG due to ultralocality

of Ham constr action.

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Ultralocality of LQG Dynamics:

Ham constraint acts on vertices of a spin net. Action only

depends on vertex structure in infinitesmal nbrhood of vertex.

Repeated actions of Ham constr builds a nest of structure

localised at each vertex. So vertices ‘far apart’ in graph

never talk to each other thru Ham constr.

Smolin argued that it was unlikely that such quantization

could describe propagating degrees of freedom between

macroscopically seperated regions of quantum geometry.

Arguments intuitive since not enough known about physical

interpretation of states. But compelling.

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 4

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In this talk..

I shall examine this issue in LQG type ‘polymer’ quantization

of 2d Parameterised Field Theory.

PFT is gen cov reformultn of free scalar field propagation on

fixed flat spacetime. All steps of LQG program including

ambiguity free defn of quantum dynamics can be

completed (Laddha,MV).

Ultralocality problem exists. Can see clearly that repeated

action of Ham constr does not give long range propagation.

But nevertheless physical states describe scalar field

propagation.

How can this be?

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 5

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Plan

Classical PFT

Quantum Kinematics

Unitary implementation of Finite Gauge transformations

Physical States via Grp Avging

Action of Quantum Hamiltonian Constraint

Quantum states and discrete spacetime

The ultralocality problem

Propagation

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Classical PFT

Free Scalar Field Action: S0[f ] = − 12

∫d2XηAB∂Af∂Bf

Parametrize XA = (T, X) → XA(xα) = (T (x, t), X(x, t)).

⇒ S0[f ] = − 12

∫d2x

√ηηαβ∂αf∂βf ,

ηαβ = ηAB∂αXA∂βXB .

Vary this action w.r.to f and 2 new scalar fields XA:

SPFT [f, XA] = − 12

∫d2x

√η(X)ηαβ(X)∂αf∂βf

δf : ∂α(√

ηηαβ∂βf) = 0 ≡ ηAB∂A∂Bf = 0

δXA: no new equations,⇒ XA are undetermined functions

of x, t, so 2 functions worth of Gauge!

x, t arbitrary ≡ general covarianceSo Hamiltonian theory has 2 constraints.

Remark:Free sclar field solns are f = f+(T + X) + f−(T − X)

Use split into “left movers + right movers” in Hamiltonian

theory.

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 7

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Hamiltonian description

T (x), X(x) become canonical variables. Use light cone

variables T (x) ± X(x) := X±(x).

Phase space: (f, πf ), (X+, Π+), (X−, Π−)

Constraints:H±(x) = [ Π±(x)X±′

(x) ± 14 (πf ± f ′)2 ]

Gauge fix: X± = t ± x “deparameterize”.

get back standard flat spacetime free scalar field action.

Define: Y ± = πf ± f ′

{Y +, Y −} = 0, {Y ±(x), Y ±(y)}= derivative of delta function{H+, H−} = 0 . P.B. algebra between smeared H+’s

isomorphic to Lie algebra of diffeomorphisms of Cauchy

slice. Same for H− algebra.

H± generate spatial diffeomorphisms of ± fields.Finite Evoltn ≡ 2 independent diffeomorphisms (Φ+, Φ−)!

Φ+ moves only ‘+’ fields, Φ− moves only ‘-’ fields.

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Spacetime interpretation of canonicaldata:

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 9

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Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 10

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Note:

Not much known re:Polymer repn on non-compact space.

Hence set Σ= circle so that Spacetime Topology = S1 × R.

There are complications coming from using “single angular

coordinate chart” x on Σ and single spatial angular inertial

coordinate X on the flat spacetime. Identifications of x and

X“mod 2π” are needed. These can be taken care of. Will

mention subtelities when necessary.

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 11

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Quantum Kinematics: Embedding Sector

Focus on ‘+’ sector. Canonical coordinates:

(Π+(x), X+(x)) ∼ (A, E)LQG

Holonomies of Π+:

Graph ∼ set of edges which cover the circle.Spins ∼ an integer label ke for each edge e.

Holonomies ∼ ei∑

eke

∫eΠ+

Electric Field ∼ X+(x)

Poisson Brkts: {X+(x), ei∑

eke

∫eΠ+} = ikee

i∑

eke

∫eΠ+

( for x inside e)

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Charge Networks: |γ,~k+〉

X+(x)|γ,~k+〉 = hk+e |γ,~k+〉 , x inside e.

ei∑

ek′+

e

∫eΠ+ |γ,~k+〉 = |γ,~k+ + ~k′+〉

Inner Product: 〈γ′,~k′+|γ,~k+〉 = δγ′,γδ~k+,~k′+

Range of ke: hke ∈ Za, a is a Barbero- Immirzi parameter with

dimensions of length.

Similarly for − sector. Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 13

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Quantum Kinematics: Matter Sector andHkin

Can define holonomies and repn on matter charge

networks.

Charge network: |γ,~l〉.Hkin obtained as product of +,− embedding and mattercharge nets.

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Physical Hilbert Space by Grp Avging

Can construct physical states via grp avging w.r.to gge

transformations just as we do for spatial diffeos in LQG.

Grp Avg of a chrge net |γ+,~k+,~l+〉 ⊗ |γ−,~k−,~l−〉 is thedistribution,

∑〈γ+φ+ ,~k+

φ+ ,~l+φ+ |〈γ−

φ−,~k−

φ−,~l−

φ−|, where the sum is

over all distinct gge related chrge nets.

There is a nice geometrical interpretation for a chrge net

and for physical states obtained by grp avging.

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 16

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Geometrical picture:

First, go to fine enough graph so as to write

|γ+,~k+,~l+〉 ⊗ |γ−,~k−,~l−〉 ≡ |γ,~k+,~k−,~l+,~l−〉so that each edge of γ has pair of embedding chrge labels

k+, k− and pair of matter labels l+, l−.

k± are eigen values of X±. So (k+, k−) defines (X+, X−)

coordinate of point in flat sptime! Associate matter chrge

pair (l+, l−) with this point.

Doing this for all edges of chargenet, we get a discrete

Cauchy slice with quantum matter.

Ggge transf Φ± move ‘+’, ‘-’ edges independently. Gge

transformed chrgnet has different pairs of ‘+-’ embeddning

and matter chrges. Defines new slice with new matter data.

Thus quantum matter data propagates from 1 slice to

another. Turns out that a (grp avged) physical state then

defines discrete sptime with matter propagating on it. So

quantization by grp avging encodes propagation.Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 17

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Classical Diffeo, Ham constraintsRecall: H±(x) = [ Π±(x)X±′

(x) ± 14 (πf ± f ′)2 ]

Cdiff := H+ + H− = Π+(x)X+′

(x) + Π−(x)X−′

(x) + πff ′.

Generates spatial diffeo i.e. “evoltn along slice”.

In terms of Φ±: Sptl diffeo = transf in which Φ+ = Φ−.

Cham = H+ − H− (density weight 2).

Generates motion along timelike normal to slice (normal

defined wrto flat spacetime metric).

Finite transf corresponds to choice Φ+ = (Φ−)−1.

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Quantum Constraints a la LQG:Since for diffeos, Φ+ = Φ− ≡ Φ

Udiff (Φ) = U+(Φ+ = Φ)U−(Φ− = Φ). Can solve by grp avging.

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 20

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Theimann type Ham Constr:

Can construct finite triangulation constraint which acts as

infinitesmal version of ‘Φ+ = (Φ−)−1’.

Let φδ,v be diffeo which is identity outside small nbrhood of v

and which ‘pulls’ point v to right.

C(δ)ham pulls ‘+’ edges at v to right by φδ,v,

pulls ‘-’ edges at v to left by φ−1δ,v .

C(δ)ham|Ψ〉 ∼

∑v N(v)

(U+(φδ,v)U−(φ−1

δ,v)−1

|Ψ〉U+(φδ,v)U−(φ−1

δ,v) ≡ Uham,δ,v.

Equally possible to make choices in which oprtr pulls ‘+’ left,

‘-’ right i.e. in which we replace Uham,δ,v by its adjoint.

We impose constraint and its kinematic adjoint in quantum

theory.

NOTE: We are interested in action of Uham,δ for suff small δ.

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Action of Uham,δ,v

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Summary:

Cham,δ acts nontrivially only in infinitesmal vicinity of vertices

dragging ‘+’ one way and ‘-’ the other. Including matter

labels, charge net describes data on a lattice version of

Cauchy slice. Repeated action of Cham,δ can only generate

single time step to past and future and then evolution gets

stuck. Only immediate null related lattice point is generated

with matter data. No large scale propagation

This happens due to ultralocal action of Uham,δ....Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 23

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Ultralocality problem

Recall: Finite gge transf U±(Φ±) can drag ‘+’, ‘-’ edges past

each other and get beyond single time step as follows:

Problem: Above, necessary intermediate step is

disappearance of (k+1 , k−

1 ) edge i.e. k−1 is dragged past k

+1 .

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 24

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Due to ultralocal action of Uham,δ we always have some (k+1 , k−

1 )

edge, cant drag k−1 past k

+1 .

Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 25

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Propagation: Change of Perspective

Rather than asking if repeated actions of Uham,δ (or Cham,δ)

give propagation, we should ask if joint kernel of diffeo

constraint and Cham describes propagation.

Element Ψ of kernel is (distribtnl) sum of chargenet (bra)

states. Ψ describes propagation if following statement holds:

If the bra corresponding to some discrete Cauchy slice with

matter data is in sum then the bra corresponding to any finite

evolution of this slice and data must also be in the sum.

By finite evolution we mean action of any finite gge transf Φ±

so this statement is equiv to showing elements of kernel same

as physical states obtained by grp avging wrto finite transf

generated by H±.

The key to showing statement holds for joint kernel of diffeo

constr and Ham constraint Cham is to show that if bra with

(k+1 , k−

1 ) edge is in Ψ so is bra without this edge (previous

slide). Propagation in Polymer PFT – p. 26

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Proof:

We use language “|c〉 is in Ψ” to mean that 〈c| is a summandin the sum representing distribution Ψ.

Let Ψ be in kernel of diffeo, Ham constr. Then it follows that |c〉is in Ψ if and only if

- all sptl diffeo images of |c〉 are in Ψ.

- Uham,δ|c〉 are in Ψ for suff small δ

(so that Ψ(Uham,δ − 1)|c〉) = 0 in δ → 0 limit)

- Similarly U†ham,δ|c〉 are in Ψ for suff small δ.

We shall show that the desired chargenets (with and without

the (k+1 , k−

1 ) edge) are in Ψ by relating them thru the action

of Uham,δ, U†ham,δ.

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Proof (Contd):

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Conclusions

Ultralocal action of Ham constraint does not preclude

propagation.

Propagation is to be seen as a pattern written on the entire

set of kinematic bras which comprise a given physical state

rather than as the repeated action of the Ham constraint on

a fixed kinematic ket.

Seen in this way propagation is a result of:

- Particular “U − 1” structure of the (finite triangulation) Ham

constraint.

- The imposition of the kinematic adjoint “U† − 1” also as a

Ham constraint.

General structural lessons are robust and should be used in

LQG to find phys correct Ham constraint.Seem to find

v.interesting preliminry results for “U(1)3” model.

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