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A reminder about Renato 08-04-2011, 09:57 AM Real Name: Michael Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono Location: Eden Prairie, MN I just wanted to post a reminder concerning Renato... Join Date: Feb 2008 Thanks. Invicta...in hoc nomen vinces! Posts: 14,802 meijin #1 03-20- 2012 03:49 PM 03-20- 2012 03:15 PM 08-04-2011, 10:48 AM Send a private message to meijin Add meijin to Your Contacts 3 Lastest Threads by meijin View Public Profile meijin Find all posts by meijin #2TRANSCRIPT
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08-04-2011, 09:57 AM
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A reminder about Renato
I just wanted to post a reminder concerning Renato...
Without rehashing the entire issue (do a search for a post entitled "Concerning Renato" and you can read
more), I would like to remind everyone that Renato withdrew from this forum and asked that we remove
their section and no longer discuss them. We have complied with this request and will continue to do so.
We ask that you (the members here) do as well.
Renato is allowed in the Look What I Got section, the For Sale and Trade areas. Other than that, posts
concerning them will be deleted.
Thanks.
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08-04-2011, 10:48 AM
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I for one can think of other things to discuss!! I do believe we have enough positive subject matter to
go around!!
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08-04-2011, 10:58 AM
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I missed all the excitement. I really need to see the accident. I'm not trying to be a smart al-hick. Could
someone help me find that thread. A search using 'Concerning Renato' came up with way to many pages
of threads. When I removed Renato I got 0 Threads.
Stewart I'm sure there's a lot more than less than perfect IP coatings.
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08-04-2011, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Hand
I missed all the excitement. I really need to see the accident. I'm not trying to be a smart al-hick. Could
someone help me find that thread. A search using 'Concerning Renato' came up with way to many
pages of threads. When I removed Renato I got 0 Threads.
Stewart I'm sure there's a lot more than less than perfect IP coatings.
The thread that started this morning has already been deleted.
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08-04-2011, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Little Hand
I missed all the excitement. I really need to see the accident. I'm not trying to be a smart al-hick. Could
someone help me find that thread. A search using 'Concerning Renato' came up with way to many
pages of threads. When I removed Renato I got 0 Threads.
Stewart I'm sure there's a lot more than less than perfect IP coatings.
Here is the Thread -
http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php...ghlight=renato
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08-04-2011, 11:29 AM
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Michael, I, for one, would like to encourage you to reconsider this policy. Especially in light of the fact
that they are now returning to Shop and will once again be a ShopNBC brand, why do we need to
continue to allow DM to dictate to us what we can talk about? I would like to see you inform Mr. Mink
that the members of WatchGeeks will discuss whatever they want within the scope of the TOS.
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08-04-2011, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink
Michael, I, for one, would like to encourage you to reconsider this policy. Especially in light of the fact
that they are now returning to Shop and will once again be a ShopNBC brand, why do we need to
continue to allow DM to dictate to us what we can talk about? I would like to see you inform Mr. Mink
that the members of WatchGeeks will discuss whatever they want within the scope of the TOS.
See, that is where you are wrong in your logic or thinking. No one is dictating to us what we can and
cannot talk about. After consulting with Eyal we decided to go along with Daniel's request because we
thought it would be, considering the circumstances, to be the best thing for WatchGeeks as a site and the
members here.
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08-04-2011, 11:54 AM
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Thank you for the clarification.
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08-04-2011, 12:20 PM
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Here is the Thread -
http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php...ghlight=renato
Thank you Nick and Michael. I appreciate the information Sirs.
I will try and see through it for what it is and isn't. The Good the Bad and probably some Ugly. The truth is
probably in there.
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08-04-2011, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meijin
See, that is where you are wrong in your logic or thinking. No one is dictating to us what we can and
cannot talk about. After consulting with Eyal we decided to go along with Daniel's request because we
thought it would be, considering the circumstances, to be the best thing for WatchGeeks as a site and
the members here.
Even if Renato goes back on Shop things would be fine staying just the way they are on here IMO, there
are lots of other avenues for news to get through on the grapevine and until the major players who came
to this decision in the first place should decide otherwise life goes on in Geeksville.
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08-04-2011, 02:23 PM
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Thanks Mike. Frankly I guess I missed what the big uproar was about. I have a number of Renato watches
and enjoy them, just like I do a number of other brands. From the reasonably priced to super high end. It
is just nice if everyone could get along....I guess that is a bit naive when there is competition for market
shares and everyones dollar. I wish everyone well.
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08-04-2011, 02:30 PM
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Thanks Mike. Frankly I guess I missed what the big uproar was about. I have a number of Renato
watches and enjoy them, just like I do a number of other brands. From the reasonably priced to super
high end. It is just nice if everyone could get along....I guess that is a bit naive when there is competition
for market shares and everyones dollar. I wish everyone well.
Well, it really has nothing to do with either market share or not wanting anyone to do well. As a matter
fact, you can ask any of the watch vendors at SNBC, we work together, support each other and help each
other all of the time. As a matter of fact, sitting here with Justin and Stan right now going over our shows.
The issue came up over the tourbillon and how that was all handled.
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08-04-2011, 03:15 PM
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Ok I guess I missed it which is fine by me....because I am here for knowledge, enjoyment and fellowship
with others who love watches.
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08-04-2011, 03:23 PM
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And yet people keep posting replies that have nothing to do with LWIG, or for sale/trade, lol.
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08-05-2011, 06:52 AM
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Especially in light of the fact that they are now returning to Shop and will once again be a ShopNBC
brand,
Nice. Didn't know that.
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08-08-2011, 10:04 PM
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...Especially in light of the fact that they are now returning to Shop and will once again be a ShopNBC
brand...
Really? I don't know if I should be happy or laugh. Hmmm...
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08-09-2011, 04:15 AM
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Well, it really has nothing to do with either market share or not wanting anyone to do well. As a matter
fact, you can ask any of the watch vendors at SNBC, we work together, support each other and help
each other all of the time. As a matter of fact, sitting here with Justin and Stan right now going over our
shows. The issue came up over the tourbillon and how that was all handled.
The Renato Tourbillon issue was handled very badly by Mr. Mink and I think the admin in WGs did the
right thing whereas the membership here is concerned. It would have been wrong to stand by and let it
happen; there were a lot of members with money already invested in a watch they would likely never
see.
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08-09-2011, 05:55 AM
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Renato's poor marketing and how customers were treated regarding their tourbillon and subsequent
request to leave this forum were the reasons they were removed from this forum. It's Renato's doing
that resulted in them not being on this forum. Considering all that has happened Renato still makes an
outstanding timepiece that many geeks own and will continue to buy, and many would like to read and
comment on them here. However, if Daniel requested to return to watchgeeks would it be considered, or
it's unlikely that this would happen?
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02-15-2012, 10:37 AM
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Bump.