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ROC Meeting Agenda
NFPA 557
Technical Committee on Hazard and Risk of Contents and Furnishings
(HAR-AAA) March 30-31, 2011
Embassy Suites Tempe, Arizona
1. Call to Order. Call meeting to order at 1:00 PM, on Wednesday, March 30, by Chair Marcelo Hirschler.
2. Self-introduction of members and guests. For current committee roster – See Page 2.
3. Review of Agenda and Chair’s Report.
4. Approval of August 4-5, 2010 meeting minutes. - See Page 5.
5. Staff Report. (K. Collette) – See page 10.
6. Preparation of NFPA 557 ROC. For public comments see Page 15.
7. Other Business.
8. Scheduling of next meeting.
9. Adjournment.
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Address List No PhoneHazard and Risk of Contents and Furnishings HAR-AAA
Kristin Collette3/14/2011
HAR-AAA
Marcelo M. Hirschler
ChairGBH International2 Friar’s LaneMill Valley, CA 94941
SE 1/1/1991HAR-AAA
Farid Alfawakhiri
PrincipalAmerican Iron and Steel Institute594 Windham LaneNaperville, IL 60563
M 9/30/2004
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Craig L. Beyler
PrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652Alternate: Nestor R. Iwankiw
SE 1/1/1992HAR-AAA
David A. Boverman
PrincipalNew South Wales Rural Fire ServiceAmarina Avenue, Locked Bag #12Greenacre, NSW, 2190 Australia
E 7/23/2008
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Elizabeth C. Buc
PrincipalFire and Materials Research Laboratory, LLC33080 Industrial RoadLivonia, MI 48150
RT 4/17/2002HAR-AAA
David G. Bueche
PrincipalHoover Treated Wood Products13768 West Asbury CircleLakewood, CO 80228
M 3/15/2007
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Cam Cope
PrincipalAuto Fire and Safety Consultants18500 Trails End RoadConroe, TX 77385
SE 7/26/2007HAR-AAA
Gordon H. Damant
PrincipalInter-City Testing & Consulting Corp. of California3550 Watt Avenue, Suite 5Sacramento, CA 95821
SE 1/1/1990
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Bruce R. Ellingwood
PrincipalGeorgia Institute of TechnologyCivil Engineering Department790 Atlantic DriveAtlanta, GA 30332-0355
RT 4/14/2005HAR-AAA
George V. Hadjisophocleous
PrincipalCarleton UniversityCivil & Environmental Engineering1125 Colonel By DriveOttawa, ON K1S 5B6 Canada
RT 4/14/2005
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John M. Hoffmann
PrincipalSafety Engineering Laboratories, Inc.27803 College Park DriveWarren, MI 48088-4879Alternate: Donald J. Hoffmann
RT 4/17/2002HAR-AAA
Marc L. Janssens
PrincipalSouthwest Research InstituteFire Technology6220 Culebra Road, Building 143San Antonio, TX 78238-5166Alternate: Jason P. Huczek
RT 1/15/2004
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William E. Koffel
PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.6522 Meadowridge Road, Suite 101Elkridge, MD 21075-6191Alternate: Erik H. Anderson
SE 1/1/1990HAR-AAA
Sergei Levchik
PrincipalIsrael Chemicals Ltd. (ICL-IP)430 Saw Mill River RoadArdsley, NY 10502
M 10/28/2008
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Address List No PhoneHazard and Risk of Contents and Furnishings HAR-AAA
Kristin Collette3/14/2011
HAR-AAA
Richard T. Long, Jr.
PrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715Upholstered Furniture Action CouncilAlternate: T. Hugh Talley
M 10/27/2009HAR-AAA
Daniel J. O'Connor
PrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering1000 Milwaukee Avenue, 5th FloorGlenview, IL 60025-2423American Hotel & Lodging Association
U 1/1/1992
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Jeffrey Santrock
PrincipalGeneral Motors LLC30200 Mound, Mail Code 480-111-E20Warren, MI 48090Alliance of Automobile ManufacturersAlternate: William Randall Edwards
M 7/28/2006HAR-AAA
Dwayne E. Sloan
PrincipalUnderwriters Laboratories Inc.12 Laboratory DrivePO Box 13995Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-3995Alternate: Randall K. Laymon
RT 3/4/2008
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Jason Turpin
PrincipalUS Department of the Air ForceWright-Patterson Air Force Base5180 Skeel AvenueWright-Patterson AFB, OH 45431
E 10/27/2009HAR-AAA
Steven D. Wolin
PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235
SE 9/30/2004
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Erik H. Anderson
AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.6522 Meadowridge Road, Suite 101Elkridge, MD 21075-6191Principal: William E. Koffel
SE 8/5/2009HAR-AAA
William Randall Edwards
AlternateAlliance of Automobile Manufacturers34167 Alta Loma DriveFarmington, MI 48335Alliance of Automobile ManufacturersPrincipal: Jeffrey Santrock
M 7/26/2007
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Donald J. Hoffmann
AlternateSafety Engineering Laboratories, Inc.27803 College Park DriveWarren, MI 48093-4879Principal: John M. Hoffmann
RT 11/2/2006HAR-AAA
Jason P. Huczek
AlternateSouthwest Research Institute6220 Culebra Road, Building 143San Antonio, TX 78238-5166Principal: Marc L. Janssens
RT 7/14/2004
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Nestor R. Iwankiw
AlternateHughes Associates, Inc.5953 North Oconto AvenueChicago, IL 60631Principal: Craig L. Beyler
SE 7/14/2004HAR-AAA
Randall K. Laymon
AlternateUnderwriters Laboratories Inc.333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: Dwayne E. Sloan
RT 3/4/2008
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Address List No PhoneHazard and Risk of Contents and Furnishings HAR-AAA
Kristin Collette3/14/2011
HAR-AAA
T. Hugh Talley
AlternateHugh Talley Company3232 Landmark DriveMorristown, TN 37814Upholstered Furniture Action CouncilPrincipal: Richard T. Long, Jr.
M 1/1/1990HAR-AAA
Kristin Collette
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
6/29/2007
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ROP Meeting Minutes
Technical Committee on Hazard and Risk of Contents and Furnishings
(HAR-AAA) August 4-5, 2010
Quincy, MA
1. Call to Order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Marcelo Hirschler at 8:30 am on Wednesday, August 4, 2010.
2. Self-introduction of members and guests.
The following committee members were in attendance:
NAME REPRESENTING
Hirschler, Marcelo GBH International Alfawakhiri, Farid American Iron and Steel Institute Beyler, Craig Hughes Associates, Inc. Buc, Elizabeth Fire and Materials Research Laboratory, LLC Bueche, David Hoover Treated Wood Products Cope, Cam Auto Fire and Safety Consultants Damant, Gordon Inter-City Testing & Consulting Corp. Huczek, Jason - Alt Southwest Research Institute Iwankiw, Nestor – Alt. Hughes Associates, Inc. Levchik, Sergei Israel Chemicals Ltd. (ICL-IP) Sloan, Dwayne Underwriters Laboratories Inc. Wolin, Steven Code Consultants, Inc. Collette, Kristin – Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association
The following committee members were not in attendance:
NAME REPRESENTING
Anderson, Erik – Alt. Koffel Associates, Inc. Boverman, David New South Wales Fire Brigades Edwards, William – Alt. Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers
Rep. Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers Ellingwood, Bruce Georgia Institute of Technology Hadjisophocleous, George Carleton University Hoffmann, Donald – Alt. Safety Engineering Laboratories, Inc.
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NAME REPRESENTING
Hoffman, John Safety Engineering Laboratories, Inc. Koffel, William Koffel Associates, Inc. Long, Richard Exponent, Inc.
Rep. Upholstered Furniture Action Council O’Connor, Daniel Aon/Schirmer Engineering Corporation
Rep. American Hotel & Lodging Association Santrock, Jeffrey General Motors LLC
Rep. Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers Talley, Hugh. Alt. Upholstered Furniture Action Council Turpin, Jason US Department of the Air Force
The following guests were in attendance:
NAME REPRESENTING
Matt Connolly (Intern) NFPA Tracy Golinveaux NFPA
3. Review of Agenda. Chair Hirschler reviewed the agenda and indicated the primary purpose of this meeting was to act on all proposals for NFPA 557.
4. Approval of Minutes. The minutes of the October 6, 2009 meeting were approved
with no modifications. 5. Review of Revision Cycle Information. Ms. Collette gave the Technical Committee
Meeting Introduction presentation and reviewed the Fall 2011 revision cycle information for NFPA 557 (See Page 4).
6. Preparation of NFPA 557 ROP. All public proposals included in the agenda
package were addressed and committee proposals were generated. See NFPA 557 letter ballots and the Fall 2011 Report on Proposals (ROP) for committee actions on these proposals. As this is the first edition of the document, the committee fully reviewed the current draft of NFPA 557 and made additional editorial and technical changes that will be reflected in the ROP draft.
7. Other Business. The committee formed a task group consisting of M. Hirschler, C.
Beyler, D. Bueche, and E. Buc to review the ROP draft of NFPA 557 and identify issues to be addressed by or at the ROC meeting. Ms. Collette will serve as a liaison to this task group.
Ms. Collette also reviewed briefly the revision cycle for NFPA 555 which has entered into the Annual 2012 revision cycle (See Page 5). Due to the revision history of this document, the committee agreed that a meeting via conference call would be most appropriate. The ROP meeting for NFPA 555 has been scheduled for Wednesday, January 19, 2011 from 1:00 to 4:00 EST.
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8. Scheduling of next meeting. The ROC meeting for NFPA 557 is tentatively scheduled for April 5-6, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. Specific meeting location information will be forthcoming.
9. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned by Chair Marcelo Hirschler at 11:45 am on Thursday, August 5, 2010.
Meeting Minutes Prepared by:
Kristin Collette, NFPA Staff Liaison
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2011 FALL REVISION CYCLE
PROCESS
STAGE PROCESS STEP DATES
FOR TC DATES
FOR TCC
1 PRELIMINARY 1.0 Notification of intent to enter cycle 1/8/10 1/8/10
2.1 Proposal closing date 5/28/10* 5/28/10* 2.2 Final date for ROP meeting 8/27/10 8/6/10 2.3 Final date for mailing TC ballots 9/17/10 8/20/10 2.4 Receipt of (TC) ballots by staff liaison 10/22/10 9/10/10 2.5 Receipt of TC recirculation ballots 11/5/10 9/17/10 2.6 Final date for TCC meeting 10/15/10 2.7 Final date for mailing TCC ballots 10/22/10 2.8 Receipt of TCC ballots 11/12/10 2.9 Receipt of TCC recirculation ballots 11/19/10 2.10 Final copy (w/ ballot statements) to Secretary, Standards Council 11/12/10 11/29/10 2.11 Completion of Reports 11/19/10 12/3/10
2 REPORT ON
PROPOSALS (ROP)
2.12 ROP Published and Posted 12/22/10 12/22/10
3.1 Comment closing date 3/4/11 3/4/11 3.2 Final date for ROC meeting 5/6/11 4/8/11 3.3 Final date for mailing TC ballots 5/20/11 4/22/11 3.4 Receipt of (TC) ballots by staff liaison 6/3/11 5/13/11 3.5 Receipt of TC recirculation ballots 6/10/11 5/20/11 3.6 Final date for TCC meeting 6/17/11 3.7 Final date for mailing TCC ballots 6/24/11 3.8 Receipt of TCC ballots 7/15/11 3.9 Receipt of TCC recirculation ballots 7/22/11 3.10 Final copy (w/ ballot statements) to Secretary, Standards Council 6/24/11 7/29/11 3.11 Completion of Reports 7/15/11 8/5/11
3 REPORT ON
COMMENTS
(ROC)
3.12 ROC Published and Posted 8/26/11 8/26/11
4.1 Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 10/21/11 10/21/11 4.2 Posting of Filed NITMAM 11/18/11 11/18/11 4 4.3 Standards Council Issuance Date for Consent Documents 12/13/11 12/13/11
TECH SESSION
PREPARATION
& ISSUANCE
OF CONSENT
DOCUMENTS 4.4 Appeal Closing Date for Consent Documents 12/28/11 12/28/11
5 TECHNICAL
SESSION 5.0 Association Meeting for Documents with Certified Amending Motions 6/3-7/12 6/3-7/12
6.1 Appeal closing date for Documents with Certified Amending Motions 6/27/12 6/27/12
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APPEALS &
ISSUANCE OF
DOCUMENTS
W/ CAMS 6.2 Council issuance for Documents with Certified Amending Motions 8/9/12 8/9/12
* Proposal Closing Dates may vary according to documents and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA website (www.nfpa.org) for the most up-to-date information on proposal closing dates and schedules.
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2012 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE
PROCESS STAGE PROCESS STEP DATES
FOR TC DATES
FOR TCC 1 PRELIMINARY 1.0 Notification of intent to enter cycle 7/9/10 7/9/10
2 REPORT ON
PROPOSALS (ROP)
2.1 Proposal closing date 11/23/10* 11/23/10* 2.2 Final date for ROP meeting 2/25/11 2/4/11 2.3 Final date for mailing TC ballots 3/18/11 2/18/11 2.4 Receipt of (TC) ballots by staff liaison 4/22/11 3/11/11 2.5 Receipt of TC recirculation ballots 5/6/11 3/18/11 2.6 Final date for TCC meeting 4/15/11 2.7 Final date for mailing TCC ballots 4/22/11 2.8 Receipt of TCC ballots 5/13/11 2.9 Receipt of TCC recirculation ballots 5/20/11 2.10 Final copy (w/ ballot statements) to Secretary, Standards Council 5/13/11 5/27/11 2.11 Completion of Reports 5/20/11 6/3/11 2.12 ROP Published and Posted 6/24/11 6/24/11
3 REPORT ON
COMMENTS
(ROC)
3.1 Comment closing date 8/30/11 8/30/11 3.2 Final date for ROC meeting 11/4/11 10/7/11 3.3 Final date for mailing TC ballots 11/18/11 10/21/11 3.4 Receipt of (TC) ballots by staff liaison 12/2/11 11/11/11 3.5 Receipt of TC recirculation ballots 12/9/11 11/18/11 3.6 Final date for TCC meeting 12/16/11 3.7 Final date for mailing TCC ballots 12/23/11 3.8 Receipt of TCC ballots 1/13/12 3.9 Receipt of TCC recirculation ballots 1/20/12 3.10 Final copy (w/ ballot statements) to Secretary, Standards Council 12/23/11 1/27/12 3.11 Completion of Reports 1/13/12 2/3/12 3.12 ROC Published and Posted 2/24/12 2/24/12
4 TECH SESSION
PREPARATION &
ISSUANCE OF
CONSENT
DOCUMENTS
4.1 Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 4/6/12 4/6/12 4.2 Posting of Filed NITMAM 5/4/12 5/4/12
4.3 Council Issuance Date for Consent Documents 5/29/12 5/29/12
4.4 Appeal Closing Date for Consent Documents 6/13/12 6/13/12
5 TECHNICAL
SESSION 5.0 Association Meeting for Documents with Certified Amending Motions
6/4-7/12 6/4-7/12
6
APPEALS &
ISSUANCE OF
DOCUMENTS
W/CAMS
6.1 Appeal closing date for Documents with Certified Amending Motions
6/27/12 6/27/12
6.2 Council issuance for Documents with Certified Amending Motions 8/9/12 8/9/12
* Proposal Closing Dates may vary according to documents and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA website (www.nfpa.org) for the most up-to-date information on proposal closing dates and schedules.
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NFPA 557
ROC Meeting
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Welcome!
March 2011
Embassy Suites Hotel
Tempe, AZ
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NFPA is concerned with your Safety
If the fire alarm sounds, we will evacuate
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Exiting…exits are ……..
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OverviewGeneral Procedures for Meeting
Timeline for Processing the Code
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Committee Actions
Committee Statements
Balloting
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Participation in NFPA Committee Meetings is generally limited to Committee Members and NFPA Staff
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Participation by guests is usually granted by the Chair
The Chair may limit the time of any presentation (member or guest)
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All guests are requested to sign-in and identify their affiliation
Members please verify/update your contact
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Members, please verify/update your contact information on pages attached to sign-in
Use of tape recorders or other means of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of the meeting are prohibited
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Formal voting Secured by post-meeting letter ballot (2/3
majority agreement)
V ti d i ti i i l
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Voting during meeting requires simple majority vote and is used to establish a sense of agreement that can be letter balloted
Only the results of the letter ballot determine the official position of the Committee on any Proposal or Comment
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Reminder to Members in Special Expert (SE) Category: If representing a non-SE interest (such as a consultant representing a manufacturer or an association of
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a manufacturer or an association of users), this must be declared. The member should refrain from voting on the issue.
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Remaining timeline for processing the 2012 edition of NFPA 557
Comment Closing Date: March 4, 2011 ROC Meeting: March 30-31, 2011
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g ROC Published: August 2011 NITMAM Closing Date: October 21, 2011 Council Issuance of Consent Docs: December 13,
2011 NFPA Meeting (if NITMAM received): June 2012 Council Issuance: August 2012
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Report on Comments (ROC) preparation - today
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General Procedures Follow Robert’s Rules of Order
Prior to discussion, a motion is
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o to d scuss o , a ot o srequired
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Committee Member participation:
Member addresses the Chair
Member receives recognition from the
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e be ece es ecog t o o t eChair
Member speaks to the Chair
Member poses questions to others through the Chair
Member answers questions through the Chair
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Committee Chair Actions:
States the Motion
Calls for discussion
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Ca s o d scuss o
Ensures all issues have been heard
Takes the Vote
Announces the result of the Vote
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Committee Actions on Comments:
Accept
Accept In Principle
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Accept In Principle
Accept In Part
Accept In Principle In Part
Reject
Hold
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Accept: The Comment is accepted by the Committee
without change
No Committee Statement is required for an
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No Committee Statement is required for an Accept, but one is permitted to be provided for clarification
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Accept in Principle: The Committee agrees with the change in
principle, and accepts the Comment but with change in wording
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change in wording
Committee must indicate change in Committee Action and rationale in Committee Statement
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Accept in Part: Only part of the Comment is accepted
Committee must indicate accepted part in Committee Action and address rejected part and
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Committee Action and address rejected part and rationale for rejection in Committee Statement
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Accept in Principle in Part: A combination of Accept in Principle and Accept
in Part
Committee must indicate accepted and changed
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Committee must indicate accepted and changed parts in Committee Action
Committee must indicate rejected parts and rationale for changed/rejected parts in Committee Statement
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Reject: The Committee rejects the Comment in entirety
Committee must indicate reasons for rejection in Committee Statement
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Committee Statement
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Hold:The Committee holds for processing as a proposal for next cycle, a Comment that:
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introduces concept that has not had public review
changes text to point TC would have to restudy ROP or other affected parts of document
proposes something that can’t be handled within time frame for processing the ROC
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Committee Statements (Explaining the Committee Action): Action of “Accept” requires no
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Committee Statement
All other actions require a Committee Statement to explain the action of the Committee
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Committee Statement must include a valid reason for the action
The reason should be technical where li bl
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applicable
Must explain why the Comment was not accepted
Acceptance of another Comment is not an adequate reason to reject a Comment
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Committee Statements (continued)
Should not reference a Comment with opposing action unless the referenced C t ti f t il l i th
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Comment satisfactorily explains the rejection
Should not make a vague reference to intent
Should explain how submitter’s substantiation is inadequate
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Letter ballots are on the Committee Action
The Ballot form allows you to vote
Affirmative on all actions
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Affirmative on all actions except those specifically noted
The Ballot form provides a column for affirmative with comment
Note: This box only needs to be checked if there is an accompanying comment
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Your ballot form is electronically submit-ableYou can save a copy f lf
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You can also print and fax/mail it to NFPA
All you need is (free) Adobe Reader
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Alternates are encouraged to return ballots (insurance if Principal’s ballot not received)
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Balloting Process: Initial letter ballot
Circulation of Negatives, if any received
Circulation serves as second ballot to allow change of vote
Final vote reported
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Questions?
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Questions?
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #39
_______________________________________________________________________________________________David Fuller, Millville, MA
557-4Reconsider Proposal 557-4 Log #2 and return entire document to committee.
This draft standard is not complete and, in its present form, has numerous flaws. A small error in theproposed methodology can have an enormous impact on building fire performance (putting lives and property at risk).There has been no testing carried out in support the proposed methodology and the theoretical support cited is verylimited. The proposed methodology does not take into consideration many of the major variables that define firescenarios in buildings. The proposed methodology for determining the fire load needs to be extensively evaluatedthrough additional peer reviews and several rounds of public commenting before this standard should be released.The concept of using fire frequency and structural collapse probability functions to achieve an undefined Risk Objective
(Section 6.2.3) is fundamentally flawed. The use of fire frequency (Section 6.2.3) has no relevance in a fire loadcalculation. In order to design the desired building fire performance, the presence of a fire has to be assumed. If no fireis present, no fire protection would be needed.Designing to the statistically relevant fire frequency and combustible loading by definition means you are knowingly
putting a certain (hopefully small) percentage of lives and property at risk, however there are no requirements tocalculate or report these assumptions such that designers, owners, users and AHJ’s can take this into account in theirwork.A fire load calculation should be based solely on the maximum anticipated energy release from combustibles expected
to be in the building and/or compartment. This methodology should also take into consideration unexpected conditionsthat may increase the fire load beyond what would be normally expected (ref. Station Night Club Fire). This standard aswritten fails to accomplish this.It is my opinion that this standard needs to be carefully reviewed by recognized fire protection industry experts and
testing carried out to validate the methodology in order to address the above concerns.Finally – relying on the Building Owner and the AHJ to monitor the established maximum building fire load and
continue to document it every 5 years (Section 8.6) is impractical. AHJ’s do not have the resources to enforce this nor isit likely that most have the specialized knowledge to properly evaluate the submitted analysis. This would establish anunenforceable and dangerous condition.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #37
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Justin B. Biller, Roanoke County Office of Building Safety
557-8NFPA’s BCDC asks the Technical Committee to Accept in Principle the proposal as revised:
Documentation shall be prepared by an analyst. The analyst shall have a working knowledge ofapplicable building and fire regulations, be competent in the application of scientific and engineering principles relatedfire hazards, risks and understand the impact of fire and effluents on buildings and structures. The engineering analysisand production of technical drawings and calculations shall be prepared by a registered design professional whererequired by statutes of the jurisdiction in which the construction site is located.
Engineering Analysis Documentation. The production of technical drawings and calculations shall be prepared ina manner consistent with the suggestions presented in the SFPE Engineering Guide to Performance-Based FireProtection, and shall contain sufficient information for the AHJ to determine compliance with the design parameters.Add the SFPE Engineering Guide to Chapter 2, Referenced Publications.
Note: This comment was developed by the proponent as a member of NFPA’s Building CodeDevelopment Committee (BCDC) with the committee's endorsement.This comment asks for accept in principle. The change is that references to Registered Design Professional have
been removed. Note for example that NFPA 25 Section 4.1.1.2 states: “Inspection, testing, and maintenance shall beperformed by personnel who have developed competence through training and experience.” Clearly NFPA standardsdo provide minimum requirements for the users of the code to be competent. This comment does not utilizecompetency as outlined in NFPA’s building code.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #38
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Justin B. Biller, Roanoke County Office of Building Safety
557-7NFPA’s BCDC asks the Technical Committee to Accept the original proposal.
Note: This comment was developed by the proponent as a member of NFPA’s Building CodeDevelopment Committee (BCDC) with the committee's endorsement.This standard appears to only provide measurements in metric SI units. The original proposal was simply to address
that this standard was only presented in metric SI units, in accordance with the Manual of Style section 4.1. To beconsistent with other NFPA documents, such as NFPA 5000, the system of measurement should be identified, seeNFPA 5000, Section 1.6.2.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #4
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Delete text to read as follows:
National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.Fire Code, 2012 edition.
Recommended Practice for Protection of Buildings from Exterior Fire Exposures, 2007 edition.Life Safety Code®, 2012 edition.Guide on Methods for Evaluating Potential for Room Flashover, 2009 edition.
Building Construction and Safety Code®, 2012 edition
Life Safety Code®, 2012 edition.Guide on Methods for Evaluating Potential for Room Flashover, 2009 edition
Building Construction and Safety Code®, 2012 edition.None of these documents are referenced in the body of the standard and it is not the intention to
include these as part of the requirements of this standard.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #30
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
NFPA 1, 80A, 101, 555 and 5000 are included in Section 2.2 but there is no other reference to them inthe body of the standard, except for extracts, covered in 2.4. Unless these documents are included via comments theyshould be eliminated. This document is included in the annex and needs to be referenced in section E.1.3.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #31
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
A reference to NFIRS is included in Section 2.3 but there is no other reference to it in the body of thestandard. Unless this document is included via comments they should be eliminated.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #36
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Justin B. Biller, Roanoke County Office of Building Safety
557-11NFPA’s BCDC asks the Technical Committee to Accept in Principle the proposal as acted on by
the Technical Committee but revising section 5.1.2.3 as follows:Prior to a change in use or occupancy, the building owner shall evaluate the fire load for in the new use or
occupancy.Note: This comment was developed by the proponent as a member of NFPA’s Building Code
Development Committee (BCDC) with the committee's endorsement.The BCDC agrees with committee member Mr. Koffel’s negative comment is correct. The “use” of a particular
occupancy can change without changing the occupancy classification and still change the fire load and risk to thefacility. The charging statement should include changes in occupancy and changes in use of the occupancy. Webelieve this is the intent of Mr. Boverman’s proposal.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #35
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Justin B. Biller, Roanoke County Office of Building Safety
557-14NFPA’s BCDC asks the Technical Committee to Accept in Principle the proposal as acted on by
the Technical Committee but revising section 5.1.2.4 as follows:Revise committee action as follows:
If there is a change in use or occupancy, and the fire load in the new use or occupancy exceeds the fire loadthat was originally developed, then the fire resistance of the building shall be analyzed to evaluate if the existing passivefire protection meets the design objectives for the new use or occupancy...”.
Note: This comment was developed by the proponent as a member of NFPA’s Building CodeDevelopment Committee (BCDC) with the committee's endorsement.The BCDC agrees with committee member Mr. Koffel’s negative comment is correct. The “use” of a particular
occupancy can change without changing the occupancy classification and still change the fire load and risk to thefacility. The charging statement should include changes in occupancy and changes in use of the occupancy. Webelieve this is the intent of Mr. Boverman’s proposal.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #5
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Add new text to read as follows:
The frequency of structurally significant fires, f , shall be calculated as the product of the fire frequency, andthe floor area, , as follows:
where:= frequency of structurally significant fires (fires/year)
= fire frequency (fires/m2 year)= floor area (m2)
Addition of units clarifies the equation and explanation of variables.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #28
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
The frequency of structurally significant fires, f , shall be calculated as the product of the fire frequency, andthe floor area, A , as follows:
Awhere:
= frequency of structurally significant fires (fires/year)= fire frequency (fires/m2 year)
A = floor area (m2)The units are missing in the symbols used in the equation, namely fires/year.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #6
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Add new text to read as follows:
The limitations on the estimates of the frequency of structurally significant fires along with any limitations of theapplicability of the structurally significant fire frequency for a particular building shall be subject to the approval of theAHJ.
Correction of omitted word.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #29
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
5.6.1 The limitations on the estimates of the frequency of structurally significant fires along with any limitations of theapplicability of the structurally significant fire frequency for a particular building shall be subject to the approval of theAHJ.
Missing word
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #7
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1In all tables in 5.7 change:
No detection or alarm -> no detection and alarmThe statistics refer to buildings with (detection and alarm) and without (detection and alarm).
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #17
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For office/business occupancies, the frequency of fires shall be taken as 5 6 fires per million square meters per year.Annex D data gives 5.8, appropriately rounded to 6.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #32
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
The statistics refer to buildings that have detection systems and a means of alerting occupants. If thebuildings don’t have both detection and alarms, they are not included in the population of buildings covered by thestatistics. The presence of detectors alone or of alarms alone does not offer protection.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #19
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For religious properties, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 6 fires per million square meters per year.Annex D data gives 6.2, appropriately rounded to 6.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #15
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For eating and drinking establishments, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 81 fires per million squaremeters per year.
Annex D data gives 80.7, appropriately rounded to 81.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #18
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For other public assembly buildings, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 10 fires per million squaremeters per year.
Annex D data gives 10.1, appropriately rounded to 10.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #16
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For educational buildings, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 10 fires per million square meters peryear.
Annex D data gives 9.8, appropriately rounded to 10.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #20
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For facilities that care for the sick, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 16 fires per million squaremeters per year.
Annex D data gives 15.9, appropriately rounded to 16.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #22
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For stores/mercantile buildings, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 16 fires per million square metersper year.
Annex D data gives 15.9, appropriately rounded to 16.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #21
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
For places where people sleep other than homes, the frequency of fires shall be taken as five 43 fires permillion square meters per year.
Annex D data gives 43.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #8
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1In 6.2.3.1 in the first equation, h -> ln
Below first equationF= risk objective
Fixing a typo, the intent is that a natural log function be applied, ie ln(), not h.F is defined in the following section so this is redundant.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #23
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
6.2.3.1 The design fire load density, Qf shall be determined from the frequency of structurally significant fires fSS, andthe risk performance criterion as follows:
***Insert 557_L23_Equ_F2011_R here***
Corrects typographical errors.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #9
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1In 6.2.3.2 below where
F= risk objectiveRs = risk performance criteria for structural collapse (from 6.2.1, 6.2.2)Fss = frequency of structurally significant fires (from Section 5.5)
F is defined in the text of the section so this is redundant, addition of section numbers providesguidance on where the procedure for finding these variable values is located.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #10
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Omit 6.2.3.3.
The current Section 5.5 provides the frequency of structurally significant fires, 6.2.3.3 is an artifact of aprior version.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #24
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
6.2.3.2 The cumulative probability function required to achieve the risk objective, shall be calculated as follows:
***Insert 557_L24_Equ_F2011_R here***
where:F = risk objectiveRs = risk performance criteria for structural collapse (from sections 6.2.1 and 6.2.2)fss = frequency of structurally significant fires (from section 5.5)
Explains where the data originates.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #25
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
Current section 5.5 provides the frequency of structurally significant fires
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #11
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Add new text to read as follows:
The total fire load in a surveyed compartment shall be computed using the following equation:The equation applies to a single compartment which has been surveyed. Without this edit, it may
appear that only a single compartment need be measured. Clearly,this is not what the standard calls for.
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1 557_L24_Equ_F2011_R
SS
Sf
RF 1
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #26
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
7.3 The total fire load in a surveyed compartment shall be computed using the followingequation:
Provides clarification
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #12
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
In the absence of specific information for an item, for cellulosic materials without a wood structure, it shall beacceptable to use a value of 17 MJ as the heat of combustion. In the absence of specific information for an item, forother materials of unknown composition or known not to have been fire retarded, it shall be acceptable to determine thefire load for that item by multiplying the mass of the item by a heat of combustion of 40 MJ/kg.Omit Section 7.5.4.
15 MJ/kg is not a conservative heat of combustion for general fire retarded materials, 40 MJ/kg isappropriate for both retarded and unretarded materials. In point of fact, it is not possible to identify FR materials during asurvey anyway.See for example “The Effectss of FR Agents on Polymer Performance” by V. Babrauskas in .
Heats of Combustion of FR materials range up to 35 MJ/kg,while non FR materials range up to 38 MJ/kg. 40 MJ/kg isthe correct bounding value for both FR and non FR.. If there is specific information on the material, then the publishedheat of combustion can be used per 7.5.1.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #33
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-26Revise text to read as follows:
In the absence of specific information for an item, for products materials known to exhibit superior fireperformance to that of a standard non fire retarded material, for example as demonstrated by compliance with one of thestandard fire tests shown in the following sections, be fire retarded as demonstrated by standard fire tests as required bythe applicable code, it shall be acceptable to use a value of 15 MJ/kg as the heat of combustion.7.5.4.1 It is the responsibility of the user of section 7.5.4 to demonstrate that any product to which this section is
applied has complied with the corresponding fire test requirement.7.5.4.2* Products that have complied with the fire tests required by NFPA 90A, Standard for the Installation of
Air-Conditioning and Ventilating Systems, or by the applicable mechanical code, for use exposed in plenums shall bepermitted to use a value of 15 MJ/kg as the heat of combustion.7.5.4.3* Upholstered furniture or mattresses that have complied with the fire tests required for such products by
Chapter 10 of NFPA 101, Life Safety Code, or by the applicable fire code, and have done so without the use of barriers,shall be permitted to use a value of 15 MJ/kg as the heat of combustion.7.5.4.4* Electrical or optical fiber wires and cables that have complied with the fire tests required for use in risers
(vertical runs in a shaft or from floor to floor) or in plenums (ducts, plenums, and other spaces used for environmentalair) as required by the National Electrical Code, NFPA 70, shall be permitted to use a value of 15 MJ/kg as the heat ofcombustion.7.5.4.5* Materials or products that have complied with the requirements of limited combustible materials in accordance
with NFPA 101, Life Safety Code, shall be permitted to use a value of 8.141 MJ/kg as the heat of combustion.7.5.4.6* Wood products that comply with the requirements of the applicable building code or fire code for classification
as fire retardant treated wood products shall be permitted to use a value of 10 MJ/kg as the heat of combustion.A.7.5.4 It is important to point out that the simple addition of a small amount of fire retardants to a material is
insufficient to cause the material or product to exhibit a significant change in heat release or effective heat ofcombustion. It is also essential to note that, while some plastics can exhibit heats of combustion of up to 40 MJ/kg,adequately fire retarded materials or materials with inherently improved fire performance, have been shown to exhibitheats of combustion as low as 6-8 MJ/kg. However, it is compliance with the regulatory fire test that is the availableinformation and not data on heats of combustion. It should also be pointed out that the emission of smoke or of toxic orcorrosive products, although important in terms of fire hazard assessment, is not relevant to the calculations to be madein this standard.A.7.5.4.2 NFPA 90A, Standard for the Installation of Air-Conditioning and Ventilating Systems, requires that the
following materials or products exposed to the airflow in plenums comply with certain the indicated fire tests.Electrical wires and cables and optical fiber cables must be listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.50 orless, an average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a maximum flame spread distance of 1.5 m (5 ft) or less whentested in accordance with NFPA 262,
.Pneumatic tubing for control systems must be listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.5 or less, an
average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a maximum flame spread distance of 1.5 m (5 ft) or less when tested inaccordance with ANSI/UL 1820,
.Nonmetallic fire sprinkler piping must be listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.5 or less, an average
optical density of 0.15 or less, and a maximum flame spread distance of 1.5 m (5 ft) or less when tested in accordancewith ANSI/UL 1887, .Optical fiber and communication raceways must be listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.5 or less, an
average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a maximum flame spread distance of 1.5 m (5 ft) or less when tested inaccordance with ANSI/UL 2024, .Loudspeakers, recessed lighting fixtures, and other electrical equipment with combustible enclosures, including their
assemblies and accessories, cable ties, and other discrete products must be listed as having a maximum peak opticaldensity of 0.5 or less, an average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a peak heat release rate of 100 kW or less whentested in accordance with UL 2043,
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557Insulation materials and many other products must comply with a flame spread index of 25 or less and a smoke
developed index of 50 or less when tested in accordance with ASTM E 84,, or ANSI/UL 723,
.A.7.5.4.3 Chapter 10 of NFPA 101 requires that upholstered furniture items in non sprinklered facilities comply with a
peak heat release rate of no more than 80 kW and a total heat release of no more than 25 MJ during the first 10 minuteswhen tested in accordance with ASTM E 1537, . Chapter10 of NFPA 101 also requires that mattresses in non sprinklered facilities comply with a peak heat release rate of nomore than 100 kW and a total heat release of no more than 25 MJ during the first 10 minutes when tested in accordancewith ASTM E 1590, . It is possible to comply with both tests byusing barriers enclosing the padding or filling materials; in such cases the effective heat of combustion will be that of thetraditional filling material.A.7.5.4.4 The National Electrical Code, NFPA 70, requires that electrical or optical fiber wires and cables to be used in
risers (vertical runs in a shaft or from floor to floor) comply with the requirements of ANSI/UL 1666,and be capable of
preventing the carrying of fire from floor to floor and that wires or cables to be used in plenums (ducts, plenums, andother spaces used for environmental air) comply with the requirements associated with NFPA 262 as shown inA.7.5.4.2.A.7.5.4.5 Materials that comply with the requirements of limited combustible materials must exhibit a potential heat not
exceeding 8.1.41 MJ/kg when tested in accordance with NFPA 259,
A.7.5.4.6 Fire retardant treated wood products must exhibit a flame spread index not exceeding 25 when tested inaccordance with ASTM E 84 or ANSI/UL 723 and show no evidence of significant progressive combustion when the testis continued for an additional 20-minute period and have a flame front that does not progress more than 3.2 m beyondthe centerline of the burner at any time during the test.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #34
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Justin B. Biller, Roanoke County Office of Building Safety
557-27NFPA’s BCDC asks the Technical Committee to Accept in Principle the proposal as follows:
Revise the proposed section as follows:Building codes such as NFPA 5000, Building Construction and Safety Code, and standards like ASCE/SEI 7,
Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Structures, make reference to determining fire loads for structural evaluation,which include provisions for developing performance based analysis based on fire protection engineering criteria. Inaddition performance based design procedures stipulated in NFPA 5000, NFPA 101 and other performance codes alsorely on design fires for analysis. This standard will provide analytical procedures to establish the fire load requirementsthat will be used as a design tool in determining the overall fire performance of building elements under loadingconditions.
Note: This comment was developed by the proponent as a member of NFPA’s Building CodeDevelopment Committee (BCDC) with the committee's endorsement.This annex material will assist the design professional to understand the application of this standard. This comment
takes into consideration the Committee Statement regarding the second sentence of the original proposal, which wastoo limiting.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #13
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Other Structures ASCE/SEI 7-10, AmericanSociety of Civil Engineers, 1801 Alexander Bell Drive, Reston, VA 20191-4400.ASCE 7, ????
Existing citation was incomplete.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #27
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International
557-1Revise text to read as follows:
Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Other Structures ASCE/SEI 7-10, AmericanSociety of Civil Engineers, 1801 Alexander Bell Drive, Reston, VA 20191-4400.ASCE 7, ????
Provides full reference information.
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Report on Comments – November 2011 NFPA 557_______________________________________________________________________________________________557- Log #14
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Craig L. Beyler, Hughes Associates, Inc.
557-1E.3 omit section.
555 is not cited for information.
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