eseiesei

mogonebebi prezidentebze laSa buRaZe

istoriebiistoriebi

TamTa melaSviliSoTa gagarini

simon de bovuarilela gafrindaSvili

werilebiwerilebi

berlinale 2011giorgi gvaxaria

egvipteana korZaia-samadaSvili

focxo-ewerinino lomaZe

specproeqtispecproeqti

piradi sivrcepiradi sivrcenino gogua

giorgi lobJaniZe giorgi kekeliZe besik xaranauli

kevin brokmaieri

literaturaliteratura

fasi 5 larimarti 2011 #69

garekanze: TamTa melaSvili

foto: marika qoCiaSvili

N69, marti 2011

6 redaqtoris werili

8 Cveni avtorebi

10 girCevT

kritika 18 maoxrebeli mkvdari magda guruli

20 sizmrad vnaxe `Savi gedi~ daviT gabunia

22 politikuri arqiteqtura Tu arqiteqturuli kiCi

Tamar amaSukeli

24 rogor movkvdeT samSoblosTvis, anu JolosTvis

daviT buxrikiZe

musika 26 Track N 18 _ mteri da alter `me~ miSa mdinaraZe

kulinaria 28 barbares mecxramete diana anfimiadi

axali media 30 cukerbergis `sistema~ ani asaTiani

komentarebi 32 bavSvebi da skola nino beqiSvili

36 kompiuteruli TamaSi: `simindis respublika _ 2015~

zviad qoriZe

reportaJi 38 tuliSsa da wuliSs Soris nino lomaZe

werilebi 44 berlinale _ arc wvims, arc Tovs, arc mze anaTebs

giorgi gvaxaria

48 tabadan, siyvaruliT ana korZaia-samadaSvili

istoriebi 52 TamTa melaSvili

gavla _ gaTvla _ gaTla SoTa gagarini

76 simon de bovuari

Femme Unique lela gafrindaSvili

interviu 58 qarTuli konformizmis Sesaxeb

specproeqti 64 piradi sivrce nino gogua

esei 82 mogonebebi prezidentebze laSa buRaZe

arqividan 88 saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris prezidiumis sxdomis

stenografuli angariSi

90 `ara cili swamo!~

R.O.C.S.-is kbilis pasata `yava da

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yavis, Cais, wiTeli Rvinisa da

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SeinarCuneT momxibvleli Rimili da

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gonieri kbilis pastebi

siamovnebis moyvarulTaTvis

redaqtoris werili

dRes msoflio sazogadoeba isev Rrmad SeSfoTebulia. muamar kadafi

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`yvela saxls wmends~. aTiaTasobiT moqalaqe libias tovebs. egvipteSi isev

areulobaa. iemenis quCebSi demonstraciebi mainc ar wydeba. iranSi tunisi-

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aqcia imarTeba. msoflio liderebi brifingebs marTaven. devid kemeroni

wuxs, rom neo-konebi isev moZvelebuli meTodebiT moqmedeben da demokra-

tiuli sikeTeebis imports isev TviTmfrinavidan gadmofrqveviT cdilo-

ben. is fiqrobs, rom `cota faqizi~ midgomaa saWiro.

cxovreba _ es aris Zalisxmeva droSi, _ ambobda prusti. mamardaSvili

mis azrs ase agrZelebda _ imisTvis, rom darCe cocxali, gWirdeba uwyveti,

mudmivi Zalisxmeva. radgan sikvdili sicocxlis Semdeg ki ar dgeba, is Cve-

ni cxovrebis ganuyofeli nawilia. bevri ram, rac cocxali gvgonia, rasac

ganvicdiT, rasac vfiqrobT, sinamdvileSi didi xnis mkvdaria. mkvdaria

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meordeba, mkvdaria stereotipi, standarti da norma... da Tu Cveni goneba

mkvdari narCenebiT amoivso, cocxali gancdisTvis, fiqrisTvis, momavlis-

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me ki mgonia, rom is, rac dRes samyaroSi xdeba, wina saukunis bolos

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ambobs _ is, vinc `imeorebs~, gamoricxavs Tavis Tavs momavalSi, is TviTon

irCevs sakuTar sikvdils.

nino lomaZe

mogvwereT, editor@shokoladi.ge

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maxlda, am unikaluri qalis cxovrebisa da

Semoqmedebas rom ise davwafebodi, rogorc

ganumeorebeli tkbobisa da aRmoCenebis

saganZurs.

magram simon de bovuaris Sesaxeb werisas sak-

marisi sagzali ver iqneba is, rac waikiTxe.

amasTan aucilebelia TviTrefleqsia, Semec-

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diliT fanjridan rom gavixede, guli

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gamofenaze warmodgenilia

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14 cxeli Sokoladi

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22 marti, 21.00 saaTi

22 marts Tbiliss ewveva zaideko

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konservatoriis didi darbazi

diriJori: vaxtang maWavariani, solisti: zviad gamsaxurdia (violino)

programa: r. vagneri _ `loengrini~, III aqtis Sesavali; i. sibeliusi _

saviolino koncerti; f. listi _ simfoniuri poema `preludiebi~;

f. listi _ simfoniuri poema `promeTeosi~.

Dwayne Dopsie & The Hellraisers

musika

koncertebi

girCevT

16 cxeli Sokoladi

Franck Provost-Si weliwadSi orjer saerTaSoriso spe-

cialistebi Camodian master-klasebis Casatareblad.

swored amitom vimyofebi dRes me aq, TbilisSi. ukve erTi

kviraa, rac master-klasebs vutareb qarTvel stil-

istebs, vuCveneb maT Tanamedrove teqnologias Tmis

movlis sferoSi, aseve vaswavli yvela im uaxles ten-

dencias, rac modas ukavSirdeba. amJamad Camovitane 2011

wlis gazafxuli-zafxulis koleqcia, ukve erTi kviraa

vmuSaobT da xvalidan qarTvel qalbatonebsac SeeZle-

baT „frank-provos“ axali koleqciis gacnoba.

ra aris is inovacia, rasac wels FRANCK PROVOST

sTavazobs Tavis momxmarebels?

am sezonis mTavari movlenaa „Zvirfasi ferebi“. Cven e.w.

„Zvirfasi ferebis“ gamoyenebiT vRebavT Tmas. amJamad

koleqciaSi dominirebs sami ZiriTadi tonaloba: esaa or

oqrosferSi melireba, romelic SeiZleba iyos rogorc

Zalian bunebrivi Tmis feri, aseve _ Zalian gamokveTili

da kaSkaSa. ramdenime qera tonis gamoyenebiT ise vRebavT

Tmas, rom gansxvaveba TiTqmis SeumCnevelia. aseve gvaqvs

„yavisferi qaSmiri“. is rbilia, msubuqi da seqsualuri,

gankuTvnilia, ZiriTadad, Savgvremani qalbatonebisTvis.

Zalian bunebrivi ferTa gamaa, TiTqmis SeumCneveli ga-

dasvlaa esec, Tumca Tmas araCveulebriv siRrmes ani-

Webs. axali koleqciis kidev erTi inovaciaa veneciuri

qarvisferi. es Seferiloba mowiTalo Ria wablisferi-

dan qeramde meryeobs _ sami sxvadasxva tonia, romelTa

erTmaneTSi Serevac Tmas bunebriv brwyinvalebas un-

arCunebs. axali koleqcia swored am sami feriT war-

movadgineT. da rac mTavaria, es teqnika mxolod Franck Provost brendis salonebisTvisaa eqskluziuri. msoflios

nebismier wertilSi, sadac Cveni salonia, swored am uax-

lesi teqnologiebis gamoyenebiT SegiZliaT moiTxovoT

momsaxureba.

azianebs Tu ara amgvari teqnologia Tmas?

gaaCnia saerTod rogor uvliT mas. Tuki Tmas yvela we-

sis dacviT SeiRebavT, es mas aranairad ar daazianebs.

piriqiT, Cven, pirvel rigSi, Tmis movlaze vzrunavT.

paralelurad, Tmis movlis sxva saSualebebic unda ix-

maroT, raTa mas bunebrivi brwyinvaleba da sijansaRe

SeunarCunoT.

ramden xans darCeba es koleqcia saqarTevloSi?

axali koleqcia frank-provoSi Semodgomamde darCeba.

Semdeg ukve axal tendenciebs da Semodgoma-zamTris

2011 wlis koleqcias SevTavazebT Cvens momxmarebels.

silamazis salon Franck Provost-Si ukve erTi kviraa, rac frangi saerTaSoriso donis stilisti, stefan de luzi atarebs

masterklasebs. man saqarTveloSi cnobili franguli brendis eqskluziuri koleqcia Camoitana, romliT sargeblobac

qarTvel mandilosnebs mxolod „frank-provoSi“ SeeZlebaT.

kritika

maoxrebeli mkvdarimagda guruli

teqsti pirvelad

gamoqveynda feis-

bukze. (Semoklebu-

li varianti)

„ostati da mar-

garitas“ personaJ

fridas yoveldRe

im cxvirsaxocs axve-

drebdnen, romli-

Tac man Tavisi

Svili daaxrCo. ga-

sagebia, rom fri-

da jojoxeTSi iyo,

radgan sxvagan msga-

vsi dasjis meTodis

gamoyeneba metisme-

tad arahumanuri iq-

neboda.

imedi maqvs, rom

mTlad jojoxeTSic

ar varT, da miuxeda-

vad yvelafrisa, mainc

vimsaxurebT Tundac

mbJutav ganaTebas

gvirabis bolos.

. . .

„maoxrebeli mkvda-

ri“, albaT, ukeTess verafers inatrebda: mis adgilas

daCexili adamianebis monuments dadgamen. marTalia,

isini win miiweven, magram eWvi maqvs, Sors versad

wavlen, iqve, Soriaxlo itrialeben, rogorc misia-

Seusrulebeli suli holivudur filmSi. mokled,

stalini sulac ar unda iyos ukmayofilo movlene-

bis ganviTarebiT _ uyvarda cxonebuls adamianebis

„Cexva“, fizikuri Tu sulieri. amaze aborigenebSi

uamravi zepirsityvieri gadmocema da legenda arse-

bobs, da yvelam bavSvobidan viciT, Tu rogor kai-

fobda babua jozefi adamianebis sikvdilis SiSze.

amitom, konceptualuri TvalsazrisiT, Tamar kvesi-

taZis proeqti stalinis tribiuti (tribute) ufroa, vi-

dre misi SedarebiT optimisturi ideiT Canacvleba,

ideiT, romelsac TiTqos samudamod unda gamoericxa

stalini awmyoSi da, rac mTavaria, momavalSi.

yvelam viciT, rom xelovneba ritualis wiaRidan aR-

mocenebuli sferoa, da mas Tavidan magiuri datvir-

Tva hqonda. is am maxasiaTebels, met-naklebad, dResac

inarCunebs. xolo Tu zizil-pipilo qandakebam SeiZle-

ba, ha-ha, dolaris

kursze imoqmedos, es

qandakeba ras „daa-

programebs“ droSi,

sivrcesa da adamia-

nebis TavebSi _ es ar

vici da warmodgenac

ar minda. rogorc

televizoridan gavi-

geT, es koncepti mxa-

tvarma tkivilSi da

tanjvaSi „dabada“ da,

raRac, esec ar msia-

movnebs. tkivilSi da

tanjvaSi Svilis daba-

deba xdeba da ara ra-

mis Seqmna, da vinaidan

ukve viciT, rogor

„daibada“ es idea, imeds

vitoveb, rom Tamrikos

saidumlo saxeli roz-

mari ar aris.

yovelTvis megona,

rom Tu profesiona-

lizmi rameSi gvargia,

isic unda moaxerxos,

rom aRar gvetkinos

da aRar davitanjoT,

aramed emociuri da

mentaluri siamovneba miviRoT Seqmnis procesSi da

gardauvali sirTuleebis gadalaxvis dros.

dRes, rodesac kidev erTxel vnaxe maketis kadre-

bi, mivxvdi, rom am sacodav figurebs is raRac saWi-

ro „simZimec“ ki ara aqvT, da dampal Robes rom aqa-iq

nawilebi Camocvivdeba, imas magonebs.

veTanxmebi yvelas, vinc ambobs, rom jer adrea aq

ramis dadgma. iq dRes arsebuli voidi, anu sicarie-

le, yvelaze ukeTesi memorialia Cveni moWrili kidu-

rebis, axloblebis, naTesavebis, Tanamoqalaqeebis Tu

Tanamemamuleebisa, romlebic aRar arian, magram Cven

„fantomuri tkiviliT“ gvtkiva. iq, albaT, iseTi ram

unda moxdes, rom „kidurebis dakargvasac“ SeveguoT

da optimizmic gagviCndes. aseTi sxva araferia, Tu

ara cocxali adamiani da Tavad sicocxle. amitom,

sjobs im sicarieleSi sajaro sivrce Seiqmnas _ Ta-

vSeyris, bavSvebis TamaSis, paemanis, nardis TamaSis,

Woraobis, zasaobis, gindac Cxubis da gawev-gamowe-

vis, Tundac RamiT _ seqsis da yvela im saqmianobis

adgili, rasac is sistema ebrZoda.

iq, albaT, iseTi ram unda

moxdes, rom `kidurebis dakargvasac~ SeveguoT da

optimizmic gagviCndes. aseTi sxva

araferia, Tu ara cocxali adamiani

da Tavad sicocxle.

18 cxeli Sokoladi

kritika

sizmrad vnaxe `Savi gedi~daviT gabunia

marTlac mqon-

da SegrZneba, rom

sizmrad vxedavdi,

sxvanairad verafriT

avxsni, ram SeSala ase

qveynierebis naxevari

da ram moawona da-

ren aronofskis es

sruliad komerciu-

li da, cota ar iyos,

primitiuli filmi.

Tu adamiani baletSi

odnav mainc erkveva,

SeiZleba „Sav gedze“

bevri icinos, da ara

mxolod imitom, rom

natali portmani Za-

lian cudad cekvavs

(msaxiobia, ra unda

mosTxovo?). reJiso-

ri „saguldagulod“

cdilobs, klasiku-

ri baletis samyaros

legendaruli sisas-

tike kidev ufro ga-

amZafros da erTgvar sabaleto trilers gvTavazobs,

ironiaSi Tu ar CamomerTmeva Janris aseTi gansazRvra.

siuJeti melodramatulia, arSemdgari balerina_deda

(herSi) qaliSvilisgan (portmani) moiTxovs TiTqmis

SeuZlebels, is saukeTeso unda gaxdes da Caikovskis

baletis axal dadgmaSi gedis partia Seasrulos. par-

tias ki miandoben, magram qoreograf_direqtori (ka-

seli) portmanis gmirSi mxolod TeTr geds xedavs, sa-

mwuxarod, Savs vera. ai, egaa da eg _ mTeli danarCeni

filmi erTi gulubryvilo, sayvareli gogonas „gaSave-

bas“ vuyurebT. natali portmani isev „leoniseburad“

beravs tuCebs da amaSi prizebsac aZleven, aqaoda,

kargad TamaSobso; scenaristi da reJisori ki cota

mistikas ureven da warmatebaze SeSlili gogonas fan-

tazias iqamde miuSveben, rom gogonas mxrebze frTebi

amosdis, fexebze apki da namdvili gedis sxva atri-

butika. ar vici, ramdenad gulisxmobda aronofski am

yvelaferSi ironias, magram roca Caikovskis ybadaRe-

buli klasika gesmis, scenaze Sav kabaSi gamowyobili

portmani cdilobs mogvatyuos, rom guliswamRebad

kargad cekvavs da mklavebis meqanikuri qneva Tanda-

Tan namdvil frTebSi gadaizrdeba _ Tqveni ar vici

da me piradad gulianad mecineba. sxva rogori reaq-

cia unda gqondes, roca filmis avtorebs balerinas

mier gmiris xasiaTSi

Sesvla ase pirdapir

da sworxazovnad es-

miT, rom qali lamis

Tvalsa da xelsSua

gadaiqces namdvil

frinvelad? frTe-

bis farTqunma xom

saerTod momspo da

gamaTava...

ironia iqiT iyos

da, civi gonebiT

SevxedoT, ras gver-

Cis filmi da ratom

cdilobs Cvens daSi-

nebas ase uSedegod.

verafers ityvi,

friad swori komer-

ciuli gaTvlaa _

klasikuri baleti,

lamazi gogonebi,

es uTuod gaiyide-

ba. cota lesbi seq-

si da masturbaciac

xom gvaqvs, amasac

ara uSavs. mere zedapiruli fsiqologizmis dozac

ereva saqmeSi: gadametebulma TviTgvemam SeiZleba sa-

survel Sedegamde ki migviyvanos, magram gauZlebs ki

adamianis (Tineijeri gogonasi, miT umetes) fsiqika

amxela stress? da Sedegad viRebT imas, rom mayure-

beli, romelmac baleti pirvelad am filmSi naxa (da

aseTi mayureblis didi nawili iqneba, samwuxarod) Ca-

Tvlis, rom Zalian seriozuli filmi naxa sabaleto

cxovrebis Sesaxeb. arada, sinamdvileSi erTi Cveule-

brivi, martivze martivi trileria, sadac moqmedeba

sabaleto studiaSi xdeba da am masobrivi isteriis

mizezadac swored es mimaCnia _ ubralod, baleti

momgebiani anturaJi aRmoCnda Temaamowuruli da

yvelafernacadi holivudisTvis. portmanis gmiri

„yvelafriT daRlili“ kacobriobis ocnebas ganasa-

xierebs _ bejiTi patara gogonaa, mazoxisturi vnebe-

bi rom Seipyrobs. mokled, aronofskim es namdvilad

moaxerxa _ seqsobieqtis axali tipi Seqmna da imdenad

warmatebiT, rom ager, xom xedavT, naxevari msoflio

daajera, Sedevri gadaviReo. da bolos _ nu endobiT

am films. baleti sxva ramea. uainona raideric be-

vrad ukeTesi msaxiobia da imedia, kidev gagvaxarebs

da Tavisi gmiris, gadamdgari, moberebuli balerinas

beds ar gaiziarebs.

portmanis gmiri

`yvelafriT daRlili~ kacobriobis ocnebas ganasaxierebs

_ bejiTi patara gogonaa,

mazoxisturi vnebebi rom Seipyrobs.

20 cxeli Sokoladi

gamoiwereT `cxeli Sokoladi~

weliwadSi mxolod 49 larad

werilebi seqszewerilebi seqsze

ida kradoki daviT CixlaZeistoriebiistoriebi

maia miqaSaviZenino lomaZe

Jaklin kenedi-onasisidaf stampfi

rusudan gociriZe naTia guliaSvili

meqsikagiorgi gvaxaria

dokumenturi prozadokumenturi proza

singapuriSoTa gagarini

specproeqtispecproeqti

ojaxi rogorc arCevaniojaxi rogorc arCevani

daTo qardava jailz hervi

daviT gabunia nugzar zazanaSvili

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politikuri arqiteqtura Tu arqiteqturuli kiCi

Tamar amaSukeli

Architecture is not political; it can only be used politically - Leon krier.

XIX-XX saukuneTa mijnaze

dawyebulma didma cvlilebe-

bma, socialuri ierarqiis

gaqrobam, masobrivma ur-

banizaciam, mozRvavebulma

da martivad gavrcelebadma

informaciam sruliad axali

pirobebi Seqmna, romelSic

axali tipis adamiani yalib-

deba. xose ortega i gaseti

mas `masis adamianad~ moixse-

niebs. irRveva kulturuli

ierarqia, `dabal~ da `maRal~

kulturas Soris Cndeba ki-

dev erTi, saSualo da `de-

mokratiuli~ _ maskultura,

romelic adamians ganixilavs

ara rogorc `homosapienss~, aramed rogorc klients, gada-

mxdels, sakuTari keTildReobis wyaros.

es yvelasaTvis xelmisawvdomi kulturaa, romelsac ar

axasiaTebs arc „elituri“ kulturis daxvewiloba da kon-

ceptualizmi, arc xalxuri xelovnebis suliereba. maskul-

tura industriaa, biznesi, romlisTvisac xelovneba komer-

ciuli produqtia.

kiCi maTi kulturaa, vinc xelovnebisagan uazrobamde

dayvanil simartives, ferad vizualsa da iaf fass moiTxovs.

kiCi xelovnebis simulaciaa.

„nuvoriSebi“ mas sazogadoebaSi Tavis dasamkvidreblad,

saxelmwifoebi ki masis satyuarad iyeneben. kiCi iluzoruli

keTildReobaa, `mozrdilebisTvis Seqmnili da tiraJirebu-

li sabavSvo zRapari. samoTxe jojoxeTis gareSe~ (m.kundera).

kiCi yvelganaa: kiCuri grZnobebi, kiCuri molxena, kiCuri

religia, kiCuri politika... Tumca am statiaSi mis erT mxa-

res minda, Sevexo _ kiCur arqiteqturas, movlenas rodesac

didi politikuri PR-i arqiteqturas kiCad aqcevs da sakuTa-

ri, xSirad efemeruli keTildReobis ilustraciad iyenebs.

kiCi _ es aris avariuli saxlebi vardisfrad SeRebili fa-

sadebiT, blokiT nagebi da Zveli aguriT mopirkeTebuli

Zveli Tbilisi. kiCi _ saroskipos ferebSi ganaTebuli aiv-

nebia, quTaisis Teatrze wamoWimuli oqros lomebi, bor-

jomis parkSi `Carguli~ plastmasis xeebi.

kiCi _ omSi daRupul gmirTa memorialis gverdze ufro

didi memorialis wamoWimvaa.

kiCis amocnoba martivia: fsevdo-mdidruli elementebi,

imitirebuli Zvirfasi masalebiT nagebi da fsevdo-isto-

riuli fasadebiT. grandio-

zuli zomebi, „portikebi,“

svetebi, kolonebi, relie-

febi, koSkebi da gumbaTebi.

Tumca calkeul obieqtebze

mniSvnelovani da problema-

turi Tavad arqiteqturisa-

dmi midgomaa. arqiteqtura

mxolod vizualuri xelovne-

bis dargi araa. es unikaluri

sinTezia, sivrciTi mocemu-

lobis, socialuri moTxov-

nis, funqciuri datvirTvisa,

konstruqciuli mxarisa da

vizualuri efeqtis. Tumca

CvenSi dRes mTavari ara arsi,

aramed, obieqtis zoma da misi

kiCuri ieria. CvenSi xom nage-

bobebi `keTildReobis ilus-

traciebad~ gvevlinebian.

„redisonebi“, „meriotebi“, „ric_karltonebi“ da „Serato-

nebi“ _ yvelaze maRali, yvelaze SeSuSuli, yvelaze lamazi

da, ra Tqma unda, yvelaze brWyviala.

aseTia baraTaSvilis quCaze 50-ian wlebSi agebuli `viRa-

cisTvis usaxo~, komunisturi warsulis mqone Senoba, romlis

gaTanamedroveoba gumbaTiTa da ̀ Rirseuli~ kiCuri dekoriT

Semosvas gulisxmobs. gumbaTis funqcia da saWiroeba iseTi-

ve gaurkvevelia, rogorc Cveni ̀ brolis xidisa~. aSkaraa, rom

orive SemTxvevaSi proeqtebis ganxorcielebis mamoZravebe-

li ara funqciuri, aramed dekoratiuli datvirTva iyo.

TbilisSi namdvilad moiZebneboda teritoria, sadac xidi

ara marto butaforiuli, aramed funqciuradac datvirTu-

li iqneboda. viTarebas arTulebs isic, rom orive obieqti

mkacri dacvis zonaSia moqceuli, es mocemuloba sruliad

sxva moTxovnebs ayenebs arqiteqtoris winaSe.

rogorc ukve aRvniSneT, kiCi „nuvoriSebis“ xelovnebaa.

marTalia, Cveni ekonomikuri mdgomareoba namdvilad ar

gviqmnis „nuoriSebis“ statuss, Tumca midgoma sakuTari

qveynisadmi da gansakuTrebiT, urbanuli memkvidreobisadmi

Zlier hgavs zemoT xsenebuls. kiCi is midgomaa, romliTac

Cven aRmaSeneblis gamziris parizad da mestiis Sveica-

riad qcevas vapirebT. ramdeni mansardac ar unda daadgan

aRmaSeneblis gamzirs, ar gamova misgan parizi. sul, rom

aTasobiT „piaca“ Cadgan Cvens Zvel, nestian, „kofeTi“ ga-

JRenTil baTumSi, ar gamova misgan arc nica da arc romi.

an ki, ratom unda gamovides? an vis rad unda Seni kiCi da

arqiteqturuli biJuteria? Cemi kiCis sanaxavad me Tavad ar

davdivar siRnaRSi.

22 cxeli Sokoladi

rogor movkvdeT samSoblosTvis, anu JolosTvis

ise, rom arc teqsti davasaxiCroT da cenzurac kmayofili darCes

daviT buxrikiZe

miuxedavad imisa,

rom marjaniSvilis Te-

atrSi, ramdenime wlis

win dadgmulma `qaquca

ColoyaSvilma~ ukve

daiwyo gaxuneba, levan

wulaZis speqtaklze

jariskacebi da moswa-

vleebi dResac jgufe-

bad dahyavT. patrio-

tizmi xom arasodes

aris nagvianevi... amje-

rad reJisori scenaze

(ufro zustad parter-

Si, radgan moqmedeba

axal speqtaklSi swo-

red parterSi agebul

scenaze mimdinareobs,

mayurebeli ki scenaze

zis) patriotizmis fa-

qizad parodirebasac

cdilobs. an SeiZleba,

sakuTari Tavis parodi-

rebasac. da ra ucnau-

ric unda iyos, amaSi mas

cenzura exmareba.

49 wlis popularuli iaponeli dramaturgis, sce-

naristisa da reJisoris, koki mitanis piesa rogorc

Cans, reJisorisaTvis erTgvari testi iyo: sad ga-

dis zRvari Tavsmoxveul patriotizmsa da profe-

sionalizms, principsa da daTmobas Soris. piesa-

Si, romelsac originalSi `sicilis akademia~ hqvia,

xolo marjaniSvilSi _ `Jolo~, niWieri komedianti

da dramaturgi cubaki (nika kuWava) finalSi omSi mi-

dis, xolo manamde manjuriis omidan dabrunebuli da

Teatris moZule cenzori neo (nata murvaniZe) _ Te-

atriT avaddeba.

TiTqmis orsaaTian transformaciamde reJisori

komediis gakvaluli bilikebiTa Tu Seucnobeli uR-

raniT erTdroulad gvatarebs. man Signidan icis msa-

xiobis, teqstis, reJisoris Tu cenzuris probleme-

bi da amitom dueli cenzorsa da komediants Soris

brwyinvale, magram mainc Teatralur gamocdas emsga-

vseba: aba, ramdenad swrafad SegiZliaT teqsti dawe-

roT?! axla Seqspiris parodiiT STagonebuli `rometa

da julio~ XVI saukunis iaponuri dramis personaJe-

biT CaanacvleT; sityva

`samSoblo~ sityva `Jo-

loTi~ SecvaleT... axla

ki komedia ise dawereT,

rom erTxelac ar gagve-

cinos!..

mkacri da sisufTa-

vis moyvaruli cenzo-

ris axirebebs bolo ar

uCans, magram dramatur-

gi cubaki ganuwyvetliv

axal variantebs qmnis.

Tanac ise, rom Tavsmo-

xveuli cenzuris piro-

bebSi teqsti sul ufro

daxvewili xdeba. msaxio-

bebis sasaxelod unda

iTqvas, rom isini reJi-

soris mier mofiqrebul

TamaSSi bavSvuri Jini-

Ta da sianciT ebmebian:

sxartad awyobili dia-

logebi, moulodneli

iumori, kargad daswa-

vlili Jestebisa da ga-

Tvlili pauzebis monacvleoba qmnis im atmosferos,

umTavres Sres, rac `Wolas publikas~ ase uyvars: msu-

buqi flirti, Zaldautanebeli scenebi, plus _ odnav

SesamCnevi sevda da uwono dramatizmi.

JoloTi Canacvlebuli samSoblos miRma dakvirvebu-

li Tvali iolad aRmoaCens mniSvnelovan `meore plan-

sac~: reJisori Tavad cubakis prototipia, romelic

cdilobs, cenzori, anu xelisufleba sakuTari Tama-

Sis wesebiT gaacuros. amdenad, mas cenzura xels ki

ar uSlis, TiTqos piriqiT, exmareba da SemoqmedebiT

fantazias uRviZebs! swored es ormagi TamaSi, niRbe-

bis dausrulebeli gacvla, msxverplisa da moZaladis

rolebis monacvleoba qmnis im uxilav, `mesame plans~,

romelsac moulodnelad igrZnobT scenis 360 gradu-

siT Semobrunebis Semdeg.

koki mitanis piesa raRaciT bulgakovis `molieris

cxovrebas~ hgavs, sadac ludoviko XIV-sa da molie-

ris dialogebi imeorebs neosa da cubakis Teatra-

luri TamaSis finals: imisaTvis, rom samSoblosTvis,

anu JolosTvis movkvdeT, teqstis dasaxiCrebac unda

SegveZlos da cenzuris gacurebac.

kritika

iqmneba atmosfero,

romelic ase uyvars `Wolas publikas~: msubuqi

flirti, Zaldautanebeli

scenebi, plus _ odnav

SesamCnevi sevda da uwono

dramatizmi.

24 cxeli Sokoladi

cxovrebis wesi musika

avtori: miSa mdinaraZe

Semoqmedis yvelaze didi proble-

ma sakuTari Semoqmedebisgan Tavis

daRwevaa. es rTuli procesia, imde-

nad rTuli, rom, xSir SemTxvevaSi,

xels giSlis sxva SenisTana Semoqme-

dis xelovneba adekvaturad Seafa-

so, miiRo Sens sivrceSi da sakuTari

Semoqmedeba, rogorc egos nawili,

an Tu gnebavT, ambicia droebiT

mainc daamarcxo.

miTi salieris Sesaxeb kidev er-

Txel adasturebs kulturuli su-

bieqtivizmis mniSvnelobas, radgan

swored am zRurblis gadalaxvaa ge-

nialobis maCvenebeli da ara xelov-

nebaSi sakuTari ambiciis anareklis

datoveba. qristianuli dogmatiT,

es ase gamoiyureba _ giyvardes mte-

ri Seni, viTarca Tavi Seni. rTulia

ara? iqneb amitomac uWirT Semoqme-

debs erTmaneTisTvis gulwrfeli,

Tbili sityvis Tqma, am dros `me~-s

dakninebis saSiSroebis winaSe dgeba,

is mtris xelovnebiT aRtacebas ver

uZlebs da ganadgurebis SiSis qveS

uamrav TavdacviT xriks igonebs,

magaliTad; araadekvatur kriti-

kas, lanZRvas an dacinvas. Zalian

iSviaTia SemTxveva, rodesac erTi

Semoqmedi pirdapir gamoxatavs sim-

paTias meoris xelovnebis mimarT. es

Zalian `didebs~ SeuZliaT mxolod.

Cemi azriT, kacobriobis yvelaze

didi nakli adamianebis urTierTa-

Riarebis unaris simcireSia, amitom

iwyo xelovnebam kvdoma.

Track N 18, es treki, Zalian didi

xania, Cems leptopSi inaxeba. nika ma-

CaiZes ar vicnob. asec xdeba xol-

me _ am patara qveyanaSi musikosebi

erTmaneTs ar icnoben. vinc vic-

nobT, isinic didad ar vwyalobT

erTmaneTs. amas Tavisi mizezi aqvs,

alter egosTan brZola _ brZo-

la, romelic yovel wuTs Semoqmed

`me~-sTan giwevs. Track N 18 _ sinamd-

vileSi, kompozicias ra hqvia, arc

ki vici. faqtia, rom `mtris~ musi-

ka Zalian momwons! `me~ _ Semoqme-

di arc ise didia, rom sxvisi musika

aRiaros da `me~ _ adamiani arc ise

patara, rom is, rac Zalian moswons,

damalos.

nika maCaiZis musika savsea egzis-

tenciiT da ara yofiT, misi musi-

kaluri alter ego CemTvis Zalian

nacnobia. is Tavisufalia mavne

tonaluri sentimentalizmisgan da

sqematuri, magram mniSvnelobiT

datvirTuli dramaturgiuli qar-

gaa. es musika ar warmoadgens pop-

klasis farTo moxmarebis gasarTob

produqts, es xelovnebaa, sadac

tons, bgeras da maT Soris pauzas

egzistenciuri mniSvneloba aqvs. aq

ar arsebobs mkvdari nawilebi, es

musika cocxalia drosa da sivr-

ceSi. rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania,

masSi ar aris tyuilis, farsis, mo-

CvenebiTi tragizmis arc erTi wami.

arc ise saSiSi yofila kolegis

aRiareba da amaze saqveynod saubari.

Tu es ase iqneba, puSkinis salieri

erTxel da samudamod damTavrdeba,

istoriuli salieri ki gamarjvebas

izeimebs, radgan rogorc 2005 wels

mis sasamarTloze dadginda, salie-

ris ar mouklavs mocarti. mocarti

ufro puSkinis alter egom mokla

salieris xeliT da precedentic

dauSva.

mteri da alter `me~

26 cxeli Sokoladi

barbareze unda movyve, Cems

sayvarel barbareze, kneina barbare

jorjaZeze, qarTuli samzareulos

mTavar romanistze, qarTuli kulina-

riuli literaturis fuZemdebelze,

karg qalze da karg adamianze.

amas winaT diumas `didi kulina-

riuli enciklopediis~ Targmna da-

viwye, es enciklopedia kidev calke

Tema da calke sakiTxia. hoda, roca

paralelis gavleba vcade _ qarTuli

samzareulos Sesaxeb vin Seqmna aseTi

fundameturi, da, rac mTavaria, Za-

lian saintereso literaturuli naS-

romi, ra Tqma unda, barbare gamaxsen-

da, gamaxsenda da guli damwyda, rom

es SesaniSnavi qalbatoni sruliad

epizodurad gvaxsovs `mamaTa~ da

`SvilTa~ e.w. `brZolis~ dros mamebis

mxardaWeris gamo da sul es aris.

arada, sakmaod aqtiuri vinme iyo,

poeti, prozaikosi, publicisti,

dramaturgi, ganaTlebis sakiTxebiT

dainteresebuli, qalTa uflebebis

damcveli da, amasTanave, ojaxis bur-

ji, rogorc ityvian:

`gansvenebuli, aramc Tu TviTon

iyo diasaxlisi, aramed igi sxveb-

sac agulianebda da aqezebda _ rom

ojaxisTvis miexedaT, ojaxi fexzec

daeyenebinaT da ekonomikurad gama-

grebuliyvnen~, _ amas misi qaliSvili

wers masze _ gansvenebuli sityviT

ar kmayofildeboda da mwerlobiTac

surda gaewia ̀ propaganda~ diasaxlis-

Ta Soris. sxvaTa Soris, man ganizraxa

qarTuli samzareulos Sedgena da ga-

mocema _ radgan grZnobda, rom eris

warmatebaSi da cxovrebaSi pirveli

alagi janmrTelobas ukavia _ es uka-

naskneli ki damokidebulia karg da

saR sazrdoze... yoveli saWmeli, rac

am wignSi Sedis, yvela misi piradi ga-

mocdilebis Semdeg aris dawerili.~

es yvelaferi kargi, magram pirvel

rigSi es qali CemTvis poetia, poetia,

magram ara im leqsebis gamo, romelTa

wera Tormeti wlis asakidan dauwyia.

me misi sxva poezia miyvars, ai, aseTi :

`tyemlis Wrianteli

tyemals, rodesac kurka gaumagr-

deba, moitanT da foTolsa da kunwe-

bs daarCevT, CahyriT qvabSi, erT anu

ors jams da zed wyals daasxamT, rac

dahfaravs, dasdgamT cecxlze; ro-

desac ise moixarSeba rom isrisebo-

des, gadmoiRebT da xonSi CaasxamT,

gaacivebT da xeliT amosWyletT, Se-

mdeg cxrilSi gaswuramT, CenCosa da

kurkas gadahyriT, wvens ki am rigad

SeanelebT:

moxarSavT wiTel mxals, romelsac

Wriantlis mxals eZaxian da Tu wiTe-

li mxali ara gaqvT, TiTmavala mxals

moxarSavT, gaswuravT da wmindad

dahkepavT, Semdeg erTi muStis tols

CasdebT im tyemlis wvenSi, aurevT;

agreTve daaWeriT ori Tavi xaxvi da

mwvanileuloba: qinZi, qondari, kama,

rehani, susambari~.

ai, xom ar vici, ra aris `Wriante-

li~, magram vxvdebi, rom raRac Za-

lian gemrieli, momJavo da macocx-

lebeli unda iyos.

anda aseTi verlibri:

avtori: diana anfimiadi

barbares mecxramete

erTi jami muxudo daarCieT,

garecxeT, Tbil wyalSi daalbeT.

meore dRes CayareT qvabSi, zed

daasxiT wyali, moxarSeT, wveni

calke gadawureT da muxudo da-

CurCeT. CayareT garecxil filSi,

danayeT, Sig CaaWeriT oTxi Tavi

xaxvi, ori stolis kovzi danayi-

li brinji, cota marili, pilpi-

li da kidev kargad danayeT, mwva-

nili daaWeriT, amoiReT TefSze.

aiReT kaklis tola danayili

muxudo, SeaxvieT cxel wyalgav-

lebul kombostos foTlebSi, Ca-

awyeT qvabSi. sul ase daamzadeT.

daasxiT naxevar staqani zeTi,

erTi staqani pomidoris wveni,

ori stolis kovzi fqvili; cota

Saqari, qvabs Tavi daafareT da mo-

xarSeT.

muxudos

gufTa

cxovrebis wesi kulinaria

28 cxeli Sokoladi

aseT minimalizmze ras ityviT:

`qababi qondrisa

gaakeTeT wminda fqvilis Txeli

comi, marili CaayareT, TiTo-Ti-

To Ziri Cvili qondari amoavleT

am Txel comSi, tafaSi CaasxiT

zeTi; roca zeTi kargad gacxel-

des, es amovlebuli qondari tafa-

Si CaawyeT da mowviT~.

axla cotaodeni proza, ufro

konkretulad, tragikuli realiz-

mi:

`Semwvari RalRebi

sawebelaTi RalRebi gaptyveniT,

gamoSigneT, SewviT Samfurzed an

qvabSi ori-sami kovzi erboTi; Sig-

neuloba wmidad dakepeT, danarCen

erboSi moxrakeT naxevari Tavi

dakepili xaxviT da naxevar kovz

fqviliT, CaayareT rva marcvali

bahari, oTxi marcvali danayili

pilpili, marili, naxevari limoni

CaawureT. SeiZleba miumatoT ori

kovzi smetana. yvela es gaxseniT

erT staqan bulionSi, aaduReT

da daasxiT RalRebs~ ( rogori

enaa qarTuli, zmna `gaptyveniT~

mTlianad gamoxatavs sabralo

RalRebis mTel ubedurebas~.).

da erTic, rTuli da daxlarTu-

li siuJetis recepti:

`laspingi

eqvsi xbos fexi an erTi mozr-

dili xbos Tavi kargad gawmendi-

li, garecxili moxarSeT; xorci

gamoacaleT, kvercxsa da suxarSi

amoavleT, SewviT. rac Zvlebi dar-

Ceba, dakuweT, isev im wvenSi Caya-

reT da miumateT xorci, qaTmis an

indouris Zvlebi, an kidev risac

sacivi (maionezi) keTdeba, imis Zv-

lebi da xorci; rac ufro didxans

ixarSeba, imdenad ufro gemrie-

lia. ori Tavi xaxvi, ori Ziri sta-

filo, erTi Ziri oxraxuSi, erTi

Ziri niaxuri, ori dafnis foToli,

oci bahari, marili, eseni sul Ca-

ayareT da kargad CaixarSos, qvabi

gadmodgiT da, roca gagrildeba,

rasac qons moigdebs, imas moxdiT;

naxevari Cais staqani TeTri Zma-

ri CaasxiT an limonis wveni, imde-

ni simJave mieciT, rom gemo kargi

hqondes; an sami kvercxi gatexeT

da naWuWianad Sig CaagdeT, mere

isev cecxlze SedgiT da nel ce-

cxlzed ixarSos, xSirad da wyna-

rad mourieT; qvabs Tavi daxureT,

roca laspingi daiwmindeba, sal-

fetkSi gawureT da aaduReT. daw-

mendili laspingi oTxi Cais staqa-

ni unda gamovides da, Tu naklebia,

aduRebuli wyali miumateT. visac

unda, rom wiTeli feri hqondes,

wiTeli weboTi (JelatiniT) SeRe-

beT an ori natexi Saqari dawviT

da is aurieT. Tu wminda feri ara

aqvs, isev CaasxiT qvabSi da erTi

kvercxis cila CaagdeT, mere ki-

dev salfetkSi gawureT, TefSebze

daasxiT da dadgiT yinulze an civ

alagas, rom gaiyinos~.

deserti gindaT? aq ras ar ipo-

viT, nesvis Jele Tu nuSis plombi-

ri, Saqriani vaSlis felamuSi, vaS-

lis pudingi da gogris fafa.

sousebi? TeTri da wiTeli, xa-

xvis da miwivaSlasi, sousi ispana-

xis da sousi qiSmiSis.

da mTavari wesi barbaresagan:

`ufrTxildiT, saWmeli mlaSe

ar mogivideT, saWmels marili yo-

velTvis cota unda uqnaT, damate-

ba yovelTvis SeiZleba, mokleba ki

yovlad SeuZlebelia~.

ai, ase.

PS. (gamogonili ambavi)

xalxSi laparakobdnen, rom ma-

mebisa da Svilebis dapirispirebis

WeSmariti mizezi sul sxva ram iyo,

metic, zogierTi am mizezs ukbilo

pirze xelis mifarebiT da cbieri

Tvalebis moxuWviT konkretulad

asaxelebda kidec. Tumca sinamd-

vileSi mxolod orma adamianma _

Tavadma ilia WavWavaZem da kneina

jorjaZisam icodnen, ra moxda si-

namdvileSi. rasakvirvelia, arcer-

Ti ar amxelda.

yvelaferi mansvetaSvilebTan

gamarTul sadilze daiwyo. iliac

iyo miwveuli da xanSi Sesuli da

darbaiseli kneina barbarec iq su-

fevda Tavisi ganuyreli Cixtiko-

piT. saocari qalbatoni iyo barba-

re, sazogadoebis suli da guli,

qalTa emansipaciisa da CalaRajis

sakiTxebze erTnairad gatacebiTa

da gulmxurvaled mosaubre, kargi

mokamaTe da deklamatori. misaReb

oTaxSi isxdnen is da moxuci kneina

baraTaSvili. barbare axali Taobis

poetebze laparakobda didi siyva-

ruliT da cota amreziT, xolo

mis Tanamosaubres sazogadoebis

axali Worebi ufro ainteresebda.

TandaTan, rogor moxda, ver-

cerTma ver SeniSna, saubarma mi-

marTuleba Seicvala. nazuqis

comiT daiwyes da SigTavss roca

miadgnen, Tavadi iliac Semouer-

Tda. kneinas uyvarda ganaTlebuli

axalTaobelebi, ilias ki darbai-

sel dedakacebTan saubari, maTi

qarTulis mosmena.

Tavidan mSvidad baasobdnen,

mere ki, romeliRac kerZis, rome-

liRac ingredientze msjelobisas,

gawiwmatebulma barbarem qarTu-

li kabisTvis sruliad Seuferebe-

li marao xmauriT dakeca, ucbad

wamodga da oTaxidan gasvlisas

ilias miaZaxa: `am axalTaobelebs

enis codna rogor mogkiTxoT, zr-

diloba ar iciTo~.

hoda, aqedan daiwyo, rac daiwyo,

bedad, erTma Tavadma erTi cudi

rusi poeti cudad Targmna, ilia-

mac ar daayovna, ilias werils

grigol orbelianis pasuxebi mo-

hyva, mere akakic SeeSvela Tavisi

gesliani kalmiT, aTasi leqsi, we-

rili, gamoxmaureba Tu gamocana

daiwera, mokled, airia monasteri.

arada, sul ubralo mizezi hqon-

da am yvelafers, ilias saidanRac

xelSi Cavardnoda barbares samza-

reulos wignis xelnaweri da Se-

niSvna misca, `qaSi~ ki ara, `fafa~

unda geweroTo. kneinam iukadrisa

da Seepasuxa, iliamac ar dauTmo,

hoda...

ra unda eqna, misTvis `qaSi~ sxva

iyo, `fafa _ sxva, kidev sxva `rZis

flavi~ da `korkoti rZisa~.

sityvis qali iyo kneina barbare.

sityvebis da gemoebis.

kulinaria cxovrebis wesi

cxeli Sokoladi 29

termini `socialuri qseli~ gasuli

saukunis 30-ian wlebSi gaCnda. ameri-

keli sociologebi adamianebs Soris

arsebul urTierTkavSirebs swavlo-

bdnen. aseT kavSirebs sociogramebis

saSualebiT gamosaxavdnen, romelSic

calkeuli pirovnebebi wertilebiT

iyvnen aRniSnuli, maT Soris kavSirebi

ki _ xazebiT. am saxiT vizualizebul

adamianTa sazogadoebas socialuri

qseli daarqves.

terminma mogvianebiT sociologii-

dan internetSic gadainacvla.

bolo xans onlain socializacia

didi popularobiT sargeblobs, ra-

sac, Tavis mxriv, internetis ganvi-

Tarebam Seuwyo xeli. amis magaliTia

Tundac Facebook-i, romlis momxma-

rebelTa ricxvma 600 milions gadaa-

Warba, misi Semqmneli mark cukerbergi

ki yvelaze axalgazrda miliarderad

iqca.

Caketili veb ekosistema

socialur internet servisebs Ta-

vad momxmarebeli amdidrebs (youtube, blogger, wordpress, soundcloud, Fliker da

sxva). erT dResac momxmareblebma in-

formaciis ganTavseba rom Sewyviton,

isini arsebobas veRar gaagrZeleben. am

servisebs Ria platformebs uwodeben.

isini erTmaneTTan integrirebulia.

magaliTad, soundcloud-Si ganTavsebul

audio fails an youtube-ze dadebul

videos xSirad ixilavT vinmes blogSi

an Facebook-is kedelze. Tavad am ser-

visebs aseTi midgoma aqvT: interneti

aris Tavisufali sivrce, yvelaferi

yvelgan yvelasTvis misawvdomi unda

iyos. am idiliur garemoSi Facebook-i calke dgas _ nebismier sxva servisSi

ganTavsebuli informacia SesaZlebe-

lia Semoitano, xolo is, rac am so-

cialur qselSia ganTavsebuli amave

samyaroSi rCeba. da dapirispirebebic

swored aq iwyeba.

cukerbergis gegmebi

mark cukerbergis gegmebi, Facebook-ma mTeli interneti Caylapos, virtu-

alur sivrceSi mudmivad axali teri-

toriebis dapyrobas gulisxmobs. rac,

Tavis mxriv, axali da sxvebis mier ukve

aprobirebuli servisebis Facebook-Si gaCenas moicavs.

sul cota xnis win onlain socia-

lizacias onlain bazroba mohyva (Ma-rketplace). Facebook-is aqtiurma momxma-

reblebma ukve SeamCnies axali Rilaki,

romelsac Marketplace hqvia da socia-

luri qselis yvela momxmarebels so-

cialur bazrobaze epatiJeba.

axla ki axali produqti @Fmail Ca-erTo eleqtronuli gzavnilebis

konkurentul garemoSi.

dReisaTvis eleqtronuli fostis sa-

myaroSi erT_erTi udavo lideri Goo-gle-ia, Tavisi Gmail-iT. axali produqtis

gaCenisTanave gaCnda mosazrebebi, rom

Fmail-i Gmail-s seriozul konkurencias

avtori: ani asaTiani

cukerbergis `sistema~

gauwevs da mas jimeilis mkvlelic (Gmail killer) ki uwodes.

ufro konkretulad, „feisbukis“

axali servisi gulisxmobs ara axali

eleqtronuli fostis Seqmnas, aramed

`Tanamedrove gzavnilebis gavrcele-

bis sistema~ (modern messiging system); romelic TavisTavSi Cats, mokle te-

qstur gzavnilebs da eleqtronul

fostas moicavs. yvela es funqcia

momxmareblamde erTi interfeisis sa-

SualebiT miva.

mark cukerbergis mier gamoTqmuli

mosazrebis mixedviT, dRevandeli ele-

qtronuli fosta `zedmetad forma-

luri~ da CaxlarTulia.

„feisbukis“ axali teqsturi gzav-

nilebis gamoyenebisas, aRar fiqrob

imaze, rom zogierTi sakontaqto pi-

ris mxolod telefonis nomeri, zo-

gis eleqtronuli misamarTi da zogis

saerTodac aranairi sakontaqto in-

formacia ar gaxsovs, sakmarisia face-book-is meSveobiT dawero Setyobineba

da danarCens qseli Tavad gaakeTebs,

TviTon gansazRvravs mokle teqsturi

Setyobineba gaagzavnos mobilur te-

lefonze, eleqtronuli fostiT Tu

Catis saSualebiT gadasces Setyobine-

ba adresats.

„feisbukis“ meil sistema (facebook/about/message/) jerjerobiT beta mox-

marebis reJimSia da, rogorc Cans, Za-

lian male yvelasaTvis xelmisawvdomi

gaxdeba.

cxovrebis wesi axali media

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dendi, Tu arada _ 2 saaTamde suleli

maswavleblebisTvis unda gameZlo.

erTi_ori normaluri maswavlebeli

suraTs ver cvlida. yvelaferi ise

iyo, rogorc im qveyanaSi unda yo-

filiyo, sadac vcxovrobdi. sul ar

gamkvirvebia skolis damTavrebisas

maswavleblebis umetesobam neilo-

nis perangebis da franguli suna-

moebis sanacvlod uproblemod rom

dauwera maRali niSnebi Cems samosan

Tanaklaselebs. kidev bevrnairi usa-

marTloba xdeboda, magram araferi

makvirvebda. miveCvie.

namdvili cxovreba skolis mere

iwyeboda _ megobrebi, wignebi, Tea-

tri, opera, kino. mokled, vcdilob-

di, rac skolaSi maklda, gareT Seme-

vso da gamomdioda kidec. Tan Sveba

isic iyo, rom Cem mSoblebsac aseTi-

ve damokidebuleba hqondaT skolis

mimarT _ nihilisturi da cotaTi ag-

debuli. xedavdnen, usaqmod ar viya-

vi da skolas xandaxan avadmyofobis

gareSec macdeninebdnen xolme.

roca Cemi ufrosi Svili 6 wlisa

xdeboda, guldasmiT daviwye skolis

Zebna. maSin arc skolebis brendire-

ba arsebobda, arc erTiani saswavlo

gegma da rogorc Cemi megobari mi-

mtkicebda, saministroSi isic ki ar

icodnen, sul ramdeni saSualo sko-

la iyo qveyanaSi.

1996 weli idga. skolis Zieba mTeli

Tavgadasavali iyo: jer erT kerZo,

ZviradRirebul, marTlmadideblur

skolaSi mivedi, sadac yvela klasSi

wverebiani kaci damxvda da SevSindi.

arc aravis gavsaubrebivar, ise ga-

movbrundi ukan. meoregan, italiur

kerZo skolaSi direqtori mesaubra

imaze, rogori Zvirfasi fardebi iyi-

da axali saswavlo wlisTvis da ra-

mdens xarjavs skolis mosarTavad,

mesamegan kidev uaresi _ zustad ise-

Tive suleli damxvda, rogoric Cemi

skolis maswavlebelTa umetesoba

iyo, carieli mzeriTa da dazepire-

buli teqstiT.

sabolood, isev sajaro skolaze

SevaCere arCevani _ broses quCis `me-

eqvse germanulze~ da mgoni, arc Se-

vmcdarvar.

mesame klasSi Cem Svils „samSoblo

xevsurisa“ aswavles da dasawerad

misces Tema „ratom miyvars Cemi sa-

mSoblo“. daaxloebiT amgvari ram

dawera: samSoblo ki Zalian miyvars,

magram rom gavizrdebi aucileblad

viswavli inglisurs, waval amerika-

Si da iseT qalaqSi vicxovreb, sadac

sul aris deni da bavSvebs multfil-

mebis yureba maSin SeuZliaT, roca

moesurvebaTo. kidev ewera imaze,

rom amerikaSi aqvT disnei_lendi,

gaTboba da skolebSi bavSvebi ar iyi-

nebian. didad sasacilo ram iyo es

Tema, guli mwydeba, rom ar Sevinaxe.

mokled, araferi ewera samSoblos

siyvarulze da imaze, rom Tavis sal

kldeebs sxva qveynis samoTxeze ar

gacvlida, ufro piriqiT. sanam ga-

daaTeTrebda, wamakiTxa. me Sevaqe

da vuTxari, rom mainteresebda, ras

etyoda maswavlebeli.

maswavleblis imedi namdvilad

mqonda. vicodi, ar gakicxavda da

ar dauwyebda notaciis kiTxvas imis

Sesaxeb, rom samSoblo aucileblad

bavSvobaSi wakiTxuli wignebidan erTi gansakuTrebiT miklavda guls _ avtori aRar

maxsovs, lev tolstois romeliRac moswavlis mogonebebi iyo iasnaia polianas skolis

Sesaxeb, sadac grafi glexebis gogo_biWebs wera_kiTxvas da angariSs aswavlida. davxu-

Wavdi Tvalebs da warmovidgendi, ra kargi iqneboda, aseTi mxiaruli da keTili maswavle-

beli rom myoloda.

bavSvs swavla rom

uxarodes, yvelaze

metad sami ram

sWirdeba _

adamianuri siTbo,

samarTlianobis

gancda da arCevnis

Tavisufleba.

es ki swored

maswavlebelma

unda

uzrunvelyos.

dRevandel

saqarTveloSi,

warmoudgenelia

arastandartuli

da saintereso,

dali caavasnairi

adamianebis

skolaSi mizidva.

avtori: nino beqiSvili

bavSvebi da skoladali caavas mosagonari

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unda yvareboda. dali caava ara-

ordinaluri adamiani iyo, mSo-

blebTan _ cota uxeSi da mkacri,

moiTxovda raRac wesebis dacvas,

rasac maSin cota Tu icavda. ma-

xsovs, saSinlad brazobda, Tuki

vinme gakveTilze agvianebda _

yvelam vicodiT, dagvianebulebs

klasSi ar uSvebda. moswavleeb-

Tan _ erTdroulad mosiyvarule

da Tbili. isic minaxavs, dalis

danaxvaze rogor gaekvrebodnen

xolme kedelze Sataloze gamo-

suli ufrosklaselebi. bavSvebs

Zalian uyvardaT da Cem Svils

skolaSi siaruli sul uxaroda

xolme, sanam dali aswavlida.

ramdenime dRis mere skolaSi

rom mivedi, dalim gamaCera da mi-

Txra, Zalian sworad zrdi Svils.

rac mTavaria, bavSvs Tavisi azre-

bis gamoxatva Tamamad SeuZlia,

magram me Cemi istoria mainc mo-

vuyevi da vuTxari, rogor dav-

brundi peterburgidan ocwliani

cxovrebis Semdeg aq, swored imi-

tom, rom qarTveli bavSvebisTvis

meswavlebinao.

dali caavas peterburgidan na-

mdvili simdidre hqonda wamo-

Rebuli _ ana axmatovas naCuqari

patara CanTa da Tavisi axlo mego-

bris, iosif brodskis amerikidan

gamogzavnili avtografiani wigne-

bi, Ria baraTebi da werilebi. bro-

dskis emigraciaSi wasvlis Semdeg

poetis sxva megobrebTan erTad

isic uvlida da patronobda mis

moxuc, martoxela mSoblebs. roca

gaigo, brodskis leqsebi miyvarda,

Zalian gaixara, Sin dampatiJa da es

yvelaferi maCvena. mere, mogviane-

biT gavige, rom Turme TviTonac

mSvenier leqsebs werda.

ras akeTebda dali caava gan-

sakuTrebuls, roca is klasSi ba-

vSvebTan marto rCeboda, ar vici,

es mxolod SemiZlia vivaraudo.

magram is namdvilad gamorCeuli

adamiani iyo: saintereso, Rrma,

ganaTlebuli, cotaTi _ axire-

bulic. maSin ganaTlebis siste-

maSi sruli ganukiTxaoba iyo da

dali amiT kargad sargeblobda

_ programas Tavad adgenda, gar-

da wera_kiTxvisa, uamrav rames

aswavlida bavSvebs _ berZnuli mi-

TologiiT dawyebuli, bibliuri

siuJetebiT damTavrebuli. Cemi

Svili dRemde imeorebs, rom ar

Sexvedria „dalimasze“ ufro sain-

tereso da magar adamians, rom

yvelaferi, rac uswavlia, dali

maswavleblisgan icis.

xSirad vfiqrob, dali caava

cocxali rom iyos, SeZlebda Tu

ara dRevandel sajaro skola-

Si muSaobas. mgoni, gauWirdebo-

da. ver Seegueboda verc amden

direqtivas da verc mandaturs,

romelic SeiZleboda Sua gakve-

Tilze Sevardnoda da gaekontro-

lebina, vis Cauwera „ara“ da vis

_ ara. mandaturs erTs gemrielad

mialanZRavda, aqtsac dauwerdnen

da gaagdebdnen kidec. vin gamoe-

sarCleboda? mas ar sWirdeboda

aravin _ miixuravda klasis kars

da Tavad agvarebda yvelanair

problemas.

dRes qarTul sajaro skolebSi

bavSvebi im maswavleblebis piris-

pir rCebian, romelTac jer kar-

gad ver daiviwyes Zveli, axali

xom vera da ver iswavles. Tanac

es „axali“ Zalian gansxvavdeba

imisgan, rac ramdenime wlis winaT

daiwyo: Tuki maSindeli ganaTle-

bis saministro demokratiisa da

humanizmis danergvas cdilobda

skolaSi, dRevandel bavSvebsac da

pedagogebsac policiuri meTo-

debiT ebrZvis. ra Rirebulebebi

aqvT maswavleblebs, ratom mimar-

Taven isini Zaladobisa da daSine-

bis praqtikas, es aravis awuxebs,

am sakiTxebs aravin ikvlevs, amaze

saerTod ar saubroben. roca man-

daturis instituti Semogvqon-

da, ar gvimsjelia, ram gamoiwvia

bavSvebSi agresiisa da Zaladobis

mateba. iqneb amis mizezi Cven _

ufrosebi, mSoblebi da maswavle-

blebi (anu ojaxi da skola) varT?

TavisiT, cidan Zaladoba da agre-

sia ar Cndeba.

bavSvs swavla rom uxarodes,

yvelaze metad sami ram sWirdeba

_ adamianuri siTbo, samarTlia-

nobis gancda da arCevnis Tavisu-

fleba. es ki swored maswavlebel-

ma unda uzrunvelyos. dRevandel

saqarTveloSi, sadac mTavrobas

ara da ar emeteba fuli ganaTle-

bisTvis, xolo saministrom ar-

Cevani ganaTlebis avtoritarul

marTvaze gaakeTa, warmoudgene-

lia arastandartuli da sainte-

reso, dali caavasnairi adamiane-

bis skolaSi mizidva.

roca mandaturis instituti Semogvqonda,

ar gvimsjelia, ram gamoiwvia bavSvebSi agresiisa

da Zaladobis mateba. iqneb amis mizezi Cven _ ufrosebi,

mSoblebi da maswavleblebi varT? TavisiT, cidan Zaladoba da

agresia ar Cndeba.

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TamaSis personaJebi umTavresad

icxovreben did qalaqebSi. mxolod co-

tani iqnebian soflad, magram sofeli

iqneba ayvavebuli. yvelani saerTaSo-

riso standartebis gzebiT ivlian. de-

daqalaqidan wylis did rezervuaramde

rkinigzasac gaiyvanen da matareblebi

125-130 km/sT siCqariT imoZraveben.

teritoriis SuagulSi erTi didi

navTobgadamamuSavebeli qarxana ganTa-

vsdeba. igi mTlianad daakmayofilebs

teritoriis moTxovnebs da Warb pro-

duqtsac Seqmnis. 17 hidroeleqtro-

sadguri ukve aSenebuli iqneba da 13

ki _ mSenebare. sasmeli wyali 24 saaTis

ganmavlobaSi miewodeba yvela monawi-

les. saTamaSo teritoriis 70 procen-

ti gazificirebuli iqneba.

TamaSis pirobaa gazrdili biujeti

da Semcirebuli umuSevroba. kompiu-

teruli qselis gadatvirTvis safrTxe

gaCndeba mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tuki

TamaSSi CaerTveba damatebiT 5 milioni

vizitori, romelmac erTi wlis ganma-

vlobaSi unda moinaxulos es terito-

ria.

aq ar iqneba korufcia. finansTa mi-

nistri, 26 wlis TamTa xarebava Sewu-

xebuli ambobs: `Seiqmna gancda, rom

saxelmwifos mxolod dasja SeuZlia

da ar SeuZlia TanamSromloba~. man

wina cxovrebaSi rekordi daamyara:

erT importiors Semotanili tvirTi 6

wuTSi ganubaJa.

teritoriaze monopoliebs ebrZvian,

Tumca mainc arseboben cudi biWebi:

kaxa da nugzari wina Taobis TamaSidan

darCnen. petre da ivane axlebi arian.

cud biWebs kargi biWebi moerevian da

es teritoria biznesis keTebis simar-

tivis saukeTeso aTeulSi Seva.

es teritoria Tavisufali vaWrobis

es aris virtualuri TamaSi.

TamaSi landSafturia. ekranze Cans mTa-gorebi, alag-alag _ tyeebi, mdinareebi, dasav-

leTiT wylis didi rezervuaria. teritoriaze, sadac TamaSi unda ganviTardes, 5 milio-

ni adamiani icxovrebs da TamaSSi yvela CaerTveba, radgan interneti yvelasTvis xelmis-

awvdomi iqneba.

ganaTlebis

ministri qeTevan

klimiaSvili,

romelsac wina

cxovrebaSi

maswavleblad

muSaobisas 400

erTeuli hqonda

xelfasad,

calkerZ Zvel

biWebs ebrZvis,

calkerZ SvedeTisa

da holandiis

msgavsi skolebi

unda gaakeTos da

axla kidev piter

ruTsis problema,

romelic miwier

cxovrebas unda

daubrunos.

avtori: zviad qoriZe

kompiuteruli TamaSi: `simindis respublika _ 2015~

36 cxeli Sokoladi

xelSekrulebas gaaformebs amerikis

SeerTebul StatebTan da evrokav-

SirTan. am faqtiT SeZruli kembri-

jeli profesori piter ruTsi pa-

tara sofelSi, pirobiTi saxeliT

simoneTi, SemosazRvravs 6 kvadra-

tul metr miwas, CaarWobs brita-

neTis droSas da daiwyebs asketur

cxovrebas.

ganaTlebis ministri qeTevan kli-

miaSvili, romelsac wina cxovreba-

Si maswavleblad muSaobisas 400 er-

Teuli hqonda xelfasad, calkerZ

Zvel biWebs ebrZvis, calkerZ Sve-

deTisa da holandiis msgavsi sko-

lebi unda gaakeTos da axla kidev

piter ruTsis problema, romelic

miwier cxovrebas unda daubrunos.

teritoriaze 2,5 milioni ada-

miania dazRveuli. 5 milioni nafi-

ci msajulia, magram sasamarTlo

ar aris. samagierod, aris cixe,

romlis ministri xaTuna kalmaxeli-

Ze srulwlovani gaxda. TamaSSi ki-

dev ramdenime ministri monawileo-

bs. magaliTad, ministri gogolaZe

hibriduli simindis Teslis im-

portze imuSavebs, xolo ministri

maWaraSvili _ am TesliT moweuli

mosavlis eqsportze. mas ekuTvnis

sxva rekordi _ 8,5 tona simindi

erT heqtarze.

Sinagan saqmeTa ministri am Ta-

maSSi ar ikiTxeba. igi sxva TamaS-

Si CarCa, saxelad `policia~. axla

programistTa mTavari amocanaa, am

ori TamaSis bmuli gamarTon.

2015 wels mixeil saakaSvili sa-

qarTvelos prezidenti aRar iqneba.

yovel SemTxvevaSi, mas amas konsti-

tucia ukrZalavs. aravin icis, sad

iqneba igi. erTi versiiT, premier-

minitri gaxdeba; meore versiiT,

parlamentis Tavmjdomare; aris me-

same versiac: saerTod, deputatic

ki ar gaxdeba da mxolod mmarTveli

partiis Tavmjdomared darCeba. sa-

dac unda iyos, mis mier Seqmnili da

dapatentebuli virtualuri TamaSi

mas udides siamovnebas mohgvris.

2011 wlis 11 Tebervals man pir-

veli eqsperimenti Caatara saqar-

Tvelos parlamentSi. eqsperimen-

ti warmatebuli gamodga, radgan

virtualuri TamaSis prezenta-

ciisas auditoriam mas 33-jer ga-

awyvetina sityva taSiT. am eqspe-

riments yvela saerTo-erovnuli

arxiT uyurebda saqarTvelos mo-

saxleoba, romelsac mixeil sa-

akaSvilma Tavisi prezidentoba

miuZRvna da Tavic mouqona: `maTi

saTqmeli minda vTqva, minda movi-

tano maTi imedebi da molodinebi,

minda visaubro maT problemebsa

da gasaWirze.~ es iyo pirveli sa-

dRegrZelo. meore sadRegrZelo

bolos Tqva. igi modernizacias

exeboda. or sadRegrZelos Soris

iyo virtualuri TamaSis aRwera:

ra iqneba 2015 wels?

Tu ar CavTvliT 20-larian ele-

qtroenergiis vauCers, 30-larian

sasursaTo vauCers da gaWirvebis

Casacxrobad akumulirebul 150

milion lars, mixeil saakaSvils

axlandel gamowvevebze ar usau-

bria. totaluri safinanso krizi-

sis fonze did warmatebad Seafasa

parlamentma prezidentis replika:

`wels saqarTvelo simindis eqspor-

tiori qveyana gaxdeba~. swored am

replikas mohyva pirveli aplodis-

menti.

1989 wels evropaSi simindis yve-

laze didi eqsportiori qveyana

rumineTi iyo. am qveyanaSi gzebsac

agebdnen, densac da wyalsac Seu-

ferxeblad awvdidnen mosaxleo-

bas, saavadmyofoebsac aSenebdnen

da saxelmwifo lamis sagareo val-

sac ki istumrebda, Tumca nikolae

CauSeskus Tavis samflobeloSi ar

hqonda ori ram: Tavisufali sasa-

marTlo da Tavisufali media. swo-

red es aRmoCnda sabediswero misi

reJimisTvis.

Tanamedrove demokratias sa-

sicocxlod sWirdeba es ori ins-

titucia. mxolod am SemTxvevaSi

gaxdeba saxelmwifo konkurentuna-

riani. simindis respublikebis dro

istorias bardeba da maTi adgili

mxolod virtualur sinamdvileSi-

Ra Tuki rCeba. mixeil saakaSvils

swored am or faqtorze ar uTqvams

araferi. arc awmyo da arc momaval

droSi. Tu ar CavTvliT mxolod

erT winadadebas, rom `sasamarTlo

SejibrebiTobis principze iqneba

dafuZnebuli~. misTvis es Temebi

tabuirebulia.

es Temebi sazogadoebam unda ga-

daarCinos da moipovos Tavisufali

media da Tavisufali sasamarTlo.

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, realuri

simindis respublika Tavisi mware

realobiT gadava virtualur mom-

xibvlel TamaSSi, romelic mixeil

saakaSvilis fantaziis daxmarebiT

aRvwere.

ar gamogveparos: TamaSi ukve ren-

derzea gaSvebuli.

aq ar iqneba korufcia. finansTa ministri,

26 wlis TamTa xarebava Sewuxebuli ambobs: `Seiqmna gancda, rom saxelmwifos mxolod dasja SeuZlia da ar SeuZlia

TanamSromloba~. man wina cxovrebaSi rekordi daamyara:

erT importiors Semotanili tvirTi 6 wuTSi ganubaJa.

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cxeli Sokoladi 37

avtori: nino lomaZe

foto: marika qoCiaSvili

tuliSsa da wuliSs Sorisori dRe focxo-eweris dasaxlebaSi

`ai, aqedan rom iyurebi, TiTqmis mTel wyalsaca-

vs xedav. roca qari araa, kaSxalze dgomas araferi

sjobia. 270 metria, xom iciT? hoda, dgaxar am or

TaRs Soris, zeda kideze da mTel xeobas Cahyureb.

es enguris mdinaris zeda nawilia, yvelaze wyaluxvi.

zafxulSi wyali TiTqmis piramde adis. moCans kidec

wylis zeda zRvari TaRze da qedebze, kldes feri

aqvs Secvlili. 30 kilometrSi ukve galis sazRva-

ria. im mwvervalis pirdapir ki, focxoa, adgili,

romelic Zalian SeiyvareT bolo dros Jurnalis-

tebma~, _ ambobs giorgi, engurhesis TanamSromeli

da Cveni maspinZeli. fotografi da me, giorgisTan

erTad, kaSxalze vdgavarT. focxo-ewerSi rom mo-

vdiodiT, engurhesze asvla ar gvifiqria. iq rom xv-

debi, misken, ubralod, uneburad midixar, energias

wyarosken mihyvebi. grZnob, es erTaderTi dinamikaa

garSemo. wyalvardnili Tu Riaa, wylis xmauri mTel

xeobas edeba. sxva dros SiSveli tuliSisa da wu-

liSis mTebs Soris moqceul xeobaSi gamayruebeli

siCumea.

Cven aq mediis isterias gamovyeviT. gvindoda gve-

naxa, rogor cxovroben adamianebi adgilas, romlis

Sesaxeb yvela urTierTgamomricxavi istoria erTad

arsebobs. romelic xan uxvmosavliani miwaa da xan

sali kldeebi da qva-RorRi, xan Tanamedrove stan-

dartis sacxovrebeli saxlebia da xan Camoqceuli

`remonti~, xan ganviTarebis perspeqtiva da xan sa-

myaros dasasruli. rac mTavaria, gvindoda gvena-

xa xalxi, visac ukve oci welia mxolod sakuTari

statusi hqvia da axla aqvs Sansi, bolos da bolos,

iqcnen damoukidebeli saqarTvelos sruluflebian

moqalaqeebad.

gadasaxvevTan, gzis SuagulSi, patara moedanze

rkinis ZvelisZveli, daJanguli trafareti dgas.

kargad Tu daakvirdi, aqa-iq gacrecil asoebs Se-

akowiweb da `focxo-ewers~ waikiTxav, iqve kopwia

reportaJi

38 cxeli Sokoladi

sabWoTa kavSiris gerbsac mohkrav Tvals. mziani

amindia. quCis marcxena mxares dabali RobiT Semo-

sazRvruli engurhesis sastumro dgas, carieli da-

cvis jixuriT. marjvniv quCa samad iyofa. orive mxa-

res feradi oTxsarTuliani saerTo sacxovreblebi

dgas, alag-alag Seuremontebeli Senobebic gvxvde-

ba. es dasaxleba 60-iani wlebis dasawyisSi aSenda.

maSin, rodesac niko nikolaZis ocnebis proeqtis,

`qarTuli teqnikuri azrovnebis istoriaSi yvelaze

Tamami Canafiqris~ enguris hidroeleqtrosadguris

kaskadis mSenebloba daiwyo. uzarmazar mSeneblobas

sami aTasze meti muSaxeli sWirdeboda. dasaxlebis

gasaSeneblad kaSxalTan axlos, tuliSis mTis Ziri

SeirCa, Zlieri qarebisgan SedarebiT mofarebuli

adgili.

`wamobrZandiT, nana kvaSilavas gaesaubreT, Camo-

saxlebuli devnilebis gasaWirs, problemebs, yve-

lafers is mogiyvebaT, _ gvirCevs axalgazrda kaci,

pirveli, visTanac gamolaparakebas vcdilobT.

oTaxi, sadac nana kvaSilavas vesaubrebiT, nel-

nela xalxiT ivseba. dasajdomi adgili aRar aris,

amitom nawili fexze dgas da nanas saubars yura-

dRebiT usmens. nanas ojaxi erT-erTia Tvrametidan,

romelic devnilebis gansaxlebis pirvel talRaSi

mohyva da agvistoSi Tbilisidan focxo-ewerSi Camo-

asaxles. meSvide Tvea, aq cxovroben.

`me rasac vlaparakob, imas uaryofiTi debatebi

ar unda mohyves. es orive mxarisTvis _ opoziciis-

Tvis da mTavari RerZisTvis _ mTavrobisTvis kargi

unda iyos. me rom vici ise, mapatieT, magram bevr-

ma ar icis, _ iwyebs saubars nana, _ es oTaxi yu-

radRebis centrSia, _ axla vxvdebi, rom oTaxi mec

mecnoba, tele da fotoreportaJebSi maqvs, albaT,

araerTxel nanaxi, _ daxmareba rom modis, aq viyofT

yvela. daxmareba agvistoSi Camosul, `axal~ devni-

lebs gvWirdeba. Torem, vinc TiTqmis oci welia aq

cxovrobs, aiwyo ukve cxovreba. SimSiliT mikvdeba

deda da ZmisSvili. sxvebi mopirkeTebuli saxiT da

inscenirebuli cremliT cdiloben xalxis motyue-

bas. mapatieT, magram aris ori mxare, vinc marTla

SimSilobs da isini, vinc zedmet lukmas elodebian,

reportaJi

iq rom xvdebi, misken, ubralod,

uneburad midixar, energias wyarosken

mihyvebi. grZnob, es erTaderTi

dinamikaa garSemo. wyalvardnili

Tu Riaa, wylis xmauri mTel xeobas

edeba. sxva dros SiSveli tuliSisa da

wuliSis mTebs Soris moqceul xeobaSi

gamayruebeli siCumea.

cxeli Sokoladi 39

_ Cqara da damajereblad saubrobs, win, magidaze sa-

buTebi uwyvia, periodulad furclebs xelSi aTama-

Sebs, _ cota xnis win, timo majasaric, gaerodan, am

oTaxSi iyo. ase Tqva, focxos Sesaxeb pirvelad axla

gavigeTo. ltolvilTa saministroSi gviTxres, adre

miTvisebul oTaxebSi cxovrobdnen. Cven ki xalxi sa-

megrelos davubruneTo, _ ase Tqva timom, saminis-

tro Tavs amiT imarTlebso~.

Jurnalistebis, arasamTavrobo organizaciebisa

da afxazeTis mTavrobis warmomadgenlebis tele-

fonebi erT did davTarSi uweria. rodesac `Zalian

gauWirdebaT xolme~ rekvas iwyebs. `sxva Cven arafe-

ri SegviZlia~. nana Cqarobs, cdilobs araferi ga-

morCes. ukve icis mediasTan urTierToba. arc erTi

Sansis xelidan gaSvebis ufleba ara aqvs. mwyobrad

CamoTvlis: ̀ samuSao ar arsebobs, uaxloes momavalSi

arc araferi gaCndeba. erTaderTi imedi aq kaSxali

iyo, sadac damatebiTi muSaxeli ar sWirdebaT, ad-

gilobrivebic hyofniT. yvelaze axlo qalaq jvarSi

xalxi TviTon umuSevaria, miwas amuSaveben da imiT

irCenen Tavs. focxoSi qva-RorRiani niadagia. magram

es qva-RorRiani miwac ara aqvT. mxolod devnilis

daxmarebis imedze arian (sulze 22 lari). zugdidam-

de mgzavroba 5 lari, jvaramde 3 lari jdeba. deda

da ZmisSvili orive saswrafod saoperacio arian. aq

didxans ver darCebian. saxlebis dakanonebaze xels

Tvrametidan arc erTi ojaxi ar moawers~.

cota xanSi situacia mZimdeba. viRacebi ukve un-

doblad gviyureben, TiTqos Cvens `usargeblobaSi~

rwmundebian. Cveni wasvlis Semdeg maT araferi dar-

CebaT. Cven mxolod mosasmenad, informaciisTvis Ca-

movediT. im wuTs, rodesac oTaxSi saerTo ganwyoba

icvleba, me da fotografi erTdrould vgrZnobT.

axla, albaT, umravlesobisTvis Cven `im samyaros~

warmovadgenT, imis nawili varT, ramac isini `am

dReSi Cayara~. saubaric ufro gulwrfeli xdeba,

radgan dasakargi aRaraferia. `Suriani xalxia aq, _

gviamboben ukve erTad, _ aq imdeni intrigania, im-

deni provokatori. Jurnalistebis win rom tirian,

meore dRes daxmarebis produqtebs hyidian. CemTvis

reportaJi

`Zalian daviRaleT. Zala aRar gvaqvs.

erTi kilo SaqrisTvis erTmaneTs

xocaven ukve. gverdSi dadgomis

Tavic aRar gvaqvs. SimSilia, ra

unda mosTxovo? Cven jer imis

dajereba gviwevs, rom awi afxazeTze

marto lamaz sadRegrZeloebSi

vilaparakebT. asea, davrCiT samudamod

ltolvilebad~

40 cxeli Sokoladi

briliantis beWedi araferia imasTan, 5 wlis bavSvi

rom getyvis mSiao da purs ver yidulob. aseTebs

Tavs Sevaklav, aba, ras vizam~.

ori axalgazrda kaci quCaSi mogvyveba da Cveni

istoriis ganviTarebis sakuTar gegmas gvTavazobs:

`wamodiT, me getyviT, ra daweroT. mand ra gindaT,

ar mousminoT magaT. egeni 5000 wlis win Camovidnen

aq. ar daujeroT, futuristebi arian egeni!

quCis meore mxares, Zveli sasadilos Senobis gver-

diT Seuremontebeli korpusi dgas. pirvel sarTul-

ze abra hkidia, siCqarisgan verc ki varCev, ra weria,

kars vaReb da SevdivarT. bnela. maRaziaSi movxvdiT,

meore oTaxSi patara sasadiloc mouwyviaT. Taroe-

bze TiTze CamosaTvleli produqti awyvia, ZiriTa-

dad, sasmelebi _ alkoholuri, araalkoholuri da

ramdenime SefuTva `sasusnavi~.

maRaziaSi xanSi Sesuli kaci da qali daxls ukan

sxedan. Cvens danaxvaze fexze dgebian da jer dab-

neulebi gviyureben (garedan ismis Cveni erT-erTi

megzuris gabrazebuli yvirili: ar SexvideT-meTqi

mand!), mere skamebs gvTavazoben. qalbatoni galida-

naa. omis Semdeg zugdidSi jer taqsoparkSi cxovro-

bda ojaxTan erTad, mere saavadmyofoSi. saavadmyo-

fos Robeze gancxadebaSi waikiTxa, rom engurhesze

muSaxels eZebdnen. `Tormeti weli komutatorSi el-

smenad vmuSaobdi. 2007 wels `magTifiqsi~ dadges da

gamogviSves Cven saxlSi... ra unda, ra ayvirebs? ras

gveCxubebian _ Cven rom ar viyoT, ra geSvelebaTo,

gvaZaxeben. aseTi Tqmebi ar aris saWiro. es rom Cven-

ma prezidentma icodes, ar moxdeboda aseTi rame aq.

magaTTan moaTreven yvelafers. aq sxva, oTxmocze

meti ojaxia. daxmareba Cven ratom ar gvinda viTom?

amdeni xania aq vcxovrobT da mTavrobisgan araferi

maxsovs. yvelaferi ufrosobas mihqonda saxlSi~.

alberti bavSvobidan focxoSi cxovrobs. misi

biWi kaSxalze muSaobs. `vinc Zvelebi varT, awyobi-

li gvaqvs cxovreba ase Tu ise. amaT Zalian gauWir-

debaT, Tu ar daasaqmeben, _ ambobs alberti, _ aq

adre 3000 kaci cxovrobda. sasadiloebi, restor-

nebi, baga-baRebi, skola, kino, kulturis centri,

yvelaferi iyo. mere socialisturi wyoba daeca da

movida kapitalizmi, gaCanagda, gapartaxda yvelafe-

ri~. alberti gviambobs, rom Zveli devnilebidan be-

vri galidanaa. nakveTebi axlac aqvT iqiT. gadadian,

miwas amuSaveben da Tavs amiT irCeneno, gveubneba.

`ar aris samuSao. Zvel devnilebsac da aqaurebsac

aqamde Tavi aluminiT, spilenZiT gahqondaT. morCa

es jarTi. gzatkecilic Soria. specialurad unda

moxvide aq, gzad ver moxvdebi, amitom vaWrobac ga-

moricxulia. miwa sabostnec ar aris. ramdeni dRea

vzivar da verafers vyidiT, fuli aravis aqvs, marto

nisiad miaqvT~.

reportaJi

cxeli Sokoladi 41

gareT rom gamovdivarT, yvelaferi burusSia ga-

xveuli. etyoba, mosaTovad emzadeba. ukvirT kidec

focxoSi amdeni xnis uTovloba. aq civi zamTari

icis. quCaSi ramdenime landi moZraobs. mTeli lan-

dSafti gadRabnili kinokadriviTaa _ erTmaneTSi

areuli, erTmaneTSi gagrZelebuli figurebiT, si-

luetebiT, biografiebiT, istoriebiT.

saRamos, engurhesis erT-erT TanamSromelTan mi-

vdivarT saxlSi stumrad. zRurblze ukve vgrZnobT,

rom sxva samyaroSi movxvdiT _ simSvideSi, stabi-

lurobaSi. buxarSi cecxli gizgizebs, beJanis moxu-

ci deda savarZelSi muxlebze pledmifarebuli zis,

buxarTan dabali magida da ramdenime skami dgas. es

saxli beJan malazonias engurhesis administraciis

erT-erTma xelmZRvanelma dauTmo. axlac ase cxo-

vroben, `naTxovar binaSi~. magram ar daeZebs, am pa-

tara sakuTarma saxlma Tvrameti weli gaatanina.

beJani omamdec kaSxalze muSaobda. axlac sina-

nuliT ixsenebs komunistebis giganturi proeqtis

CaSlil gegmas. maSin `mwvaneebis~ samoqalaqo aqtiu-

robis Sedegad xudonhesis, tobaris, farihesis mSe-

nebloba SeaCeres. Torem engurze erTis magivrad

oTxi vardnilhesi unda aSenebuliyo.

beJanma col-SvilTan erTad gali 30 seqtembers

datova, omis dasrulebidan sami dRis Tavze. mSo-

blebi galSi darCnen. wlebis manZilze beJans isini

arCendnen. maSin hesi TanamSromlebs xelfass ver

uxdida, mainc muSaobdnen _ aba, hess xom ver gava-

CerebdiTo, ambobs. produqtebze yovel kvira galSi

mSoblebs akiTxavda. ukan mamis Sekeril zurgCanTaSi

Cawyobili xoragiT brundeboda. `ori fuTi iyo. 55

kilometri fexiT momqonda, welSi mwyvetda gzaSi.

maxsovs mamas veubnebodi xolme, ver waviReb, aRar

SemiZlia-meTqi. ecineboda, bavSvebi mSivrebi kvde-

bian, ise lamazad waiReb, rogorc dagibarebiao.

momqonda, ras vizamdi?! gzac saSiSi iyo, afxazi saiT

Camomeweoda, ar vicodi. mere sad ginda, gaiqce, da-

samalic arsadaa am bilikiviT gzaze. wlebi viyaviT

ase. ra ginda, rom qna?! cxovreba grZeldeba da unda

gauZlo. me kuro var da ukan daxeva ar mCvevia~.

dasaxlebaSi Rame avdivarT. samive quCa carielia.

aqa-iq anTia Suqi. sastumroSi sanam SevalT, isev

gvesmis nacnobi xma: `dagxocavT, iob vaSix, dagxoca-

vT yvelas, Tqve futuristebo!~

meore diliT Tovli modis. male unda gavideT, sa-

nam uReltexili gadauketavT. quCaze erTi ori kaci

seirnobs, wavlen bolosken, mere mobrundebian ukan.

_ Tqveni saxeli? mekiTxeba erTi axalgazrda kaci. _

da, romeli televiziidan xarT? Cems pasuxebs manqa-

naSi, patrulis uniformian kacs gadascems. patruli

Tavs aqnevs da midis. `Cveni patrulia, ubralod, ain-

teresebs risTvis CamoxvediT. ai, qalbatoni eTeric

reportaJi

42 cxeli Sokoladi

modis, saministros koordinatoria, _ gvacnobs qal-

batons da gvirCevs `yvelaferze, rac gvainteresebs~,

mas gavesaubroT. qalbaton eTers jer oficialuri

Tanamdeboba ara aqvs, `devnilTa da gansaxlebis sami-

nistros~ faqtobrivi warmomadgenelia da Suamavlis

funqcias iTavsebs. devnilebis moTxovnebsa da pro-

blemebs gamgeobas gadascems da saministrosac viTa-

rebis garkvevaSi exmareba. `daasaqmeben, aba, sxvanai-

rad rogor iqneba?! mTeli parlamenti, deputatebi,

adgilobrivi mTavroba, gubernatori _ yvela amaze

msjelobs. pirvel adgilze rom dgas focxo, es mgo-

ni ukve iciT. magitom moxvediT Tqvenc. ise, gaficeb

yvelafers, rom modian mikrofonebiT, Tu ici, rom

gvwyuria da gvSia, Camogvitane maSin, RmerTo Cemo,

rame. erTi kilo Saqaric saqmea. veravin ityvis, rom

aq araferi keTdeba. ubralod, es ucbad ar xdeba.

amas erTi, ori, sami weli dasWirdeba. dasaqmebisTvis

ibrZvian mTavrobaSi _ me zustad vici. xati, jvari,

ilorio, rom ityvian. me tyuili ar miyvars~.

qalbatoni eTeri Tvals rom efareba, mamakaci gvia-

xlovdeba da gvTxovs saxlSi wavyveT, raRac aqvs saTq-

meli. midis da Tan ukan ixedeba. furcelze sabanko an-

gariSis nomers gviwers. `ramdenime ojaxisaa. ra vici,

visTanac migiwvdebaT xma, iqneb, rame moaxerxoT. de-

daCems ver vtoveb, mixmareba sWirdeba, Torem me vici,

rasac vizamdi... vera naxeT, Zlivs dadis. ho, kargad,

aba! ... ar dagaviwydeT, nomeri bankisa, gamoCndeba vin-

me. kapikebia, ra aris? bevrs ki ar viTxovT. ar mogvSi-

vdes da egaa. meti araferi gvinda~.

manqanaSi vsxdebiT da movdivarT. quCaze ukve bevr-

ni arian. Soridan kidev erTxel vixedebiT ukan, sanam

Tvals ar vefarebiT, gaunZrevlad dganan da gviyure-

ben. `Zalian daviRaleT. Zala aRar gvaqvs, _ maxsendeba

axalgazrda qalis sityvebi, wina saRamos _ xom xedavT,

erTi kilo SaqrisTvis erTmaneTs xocaven ukve. gver-

dSi dadgomis Tavic aRar gvaqvs, SimSilia, ra unda

mosTxovo?! brZolisTvis energia aRaravis ar darCa.

Cven jer imis dajereba mogviwevs, rom awi afxazeTze

marto lamaz sadRegrZeloebSi vilaparakebT. asea, da-

vrCiT samudamod ltolvilebad~.

reportaJi

gareT rom gamovdivarT, yvelaferi

burusSia gaxveuli. etyoba, mosaTovad

emzadeba. ukvirT kidec focxoSi amdeni

xnis uTovloba. aq civi zamTari icis.

quCaSi ramdenime landi moZraobs.

mTeli landSafti gadRabnili

kinokadriviTaa _ erTmaneTSi areuli,

erTmaneTSi gagrZelebuli figurebiT,

siluetebiT, biografiebiT, istoriebiT.

cxeli Sokoladi 43

avtori: giorgi gvaxaria

berlinale arc wvims, arc Tovs, arc mze anaTebs

vin vendersi`pina~44 cxeli Sokoladi

werili berlinaledan

`xan wvims, xan mze anaTebs~ _ ase

hqvia koreeli reJisoris, li en-ki-

nis films, romelic berlinis wle-

vandeli kinofestivalis konkursSi

iyo CarTuli. ambavi Seyvarebule-

bze, romlebic filmis prologSi

gadawyveten daSordnen erTmaneTs,

magram gangeba, ufro sworad, amin-

di, orives erT sivrceSi gamoke-

tavs, sul 13 kadriTaa awyobili.

arada filmi TiTqmis ori saaTi gr-

Zeldeba... ori saaTis manZilze vus-

menT, rogor arkvevs erTmaneTTan

urTierTobas axlad gamdidrebuli

qal-vaJi. vusmenT, amindis progno-

zTan erTad, romelsac seulis ra-

dio gadmoscems. filmi Tavidan bo-

lomde Sori da saSualo xedebiTaa

gadaRebuli. amitom rogor TamaSo-

ben msaxiobebi gaugebaria. Sesabami-

sad, mayurebelic, romelic kargad

ver xedavs gmirebs, gulgrili rCe-

ba am qal-vaJis tanjvis mimarT. So-

ridan uyureb, usmen wvimis Sxapuns

da geZineba! miT umetes, rom pre-

sisTvis gankuTvnili seansi dilis 9

saaTzea daniSnuli. miT umetes, rom

gareT yinavs da `berlinale palac-

Si~, tradiciulad, kargad aTboben.

amboben, samxreT koreas naklebad

Seexo ekonomikuri krizisio. ar vici.

berlinis 61-e kinofestivalze war-

modgenili am suraTiT Tu vimsje-

lebT, koreul kinos `ekonomikurad~

Zalian uWirs; korea, romelic bolo

dros gamoirCeoda kinoteqnologiu-

ri eqsperimentebiT, uaRresad maRa-

li xarisxis firze gadaRebuli mar-

Tlac rom sanaxaobrivi filmebiT,

`berlinaleze~ waradgines samoyva-

rulo filmi-performansiT, romlis

msgavsi piradad me aTasjer maqvs

nanaxi jer kidev 80-iani wlebis bo-

los, oberhauzenis moklemetraJiani

filmebis kinofestivalze. mas mere

didi dro gavida, wels, ager ukve

meoced viyavi akreditebuli ber-

linis kinofestivalze da ra vnaxe?

srulmetraJiani video-performan-

sebi (Contemporary art), romelTa mo-

qmedeba xan samxreT amerikaSi xdeba,

xan koreaSi, xanac afrikaSi... magram

yvelgan erTi da igive igrZnoba _

mwiri biujetiT ganpirobebuli mini-

malizmi, moqmedebis gawelva srul-

metraJiani filmis formatamde... si-

cariele da daRla. gamofituloba.

ucnauria, magram aseT kinos jer

kidev hyavs Tayvanismcemeli. ager

kritikosebma Zalian maRali Sefase-

ba misces ungreli reJisoris, bela

taris films `turinis cxeni~, ro-

melic festivalis bolomde `oqros

daTvis~ mTavar favoritad iTvle-

boda. raRac doziT iumori namdvi-

lad iyo am filmSi... Tundac imaSi,

rom suraTis dasawyisSi kadrsmiRma

xma gviambobs nicSeze, romelmac

1869 wels turinis moedanze ixila

rogor cemda glexi Tavis momakvdav

cxens... da swored es scena gaxda

nicSes `gagiJebis~ sababi. mere geci-

neba, radgan xedav, rom bela tarma

aSkarad mogatyua; nicSe ekranze ar

Cans (molodinis miuxedavad); Cans

cxeni, misi patroni da patronis

qaliSvili. maTi mosawyeni cxovre-

ba ungrul sofelSi... gadaRebuli

sul ramdenime kadriT da awyobili

filmSi, romelic orsaaTnaxevari

grZeldeba.

belinales gaxsna

reJisori vin vendersi da angela merkeli `pinas~ premieraze

`turinis cxeni~, reJisori bela tari

iraneli reJisori jafar panaxi bilbordi

cxeli Sokoladi 45

bela taris filmis mimarT inte-

ress isic zrdida, rom premieramde

cota xniT adre reJisorma gana-

cxada _ `turinis cxeni~ misi bolo

filmia, e.i. taris Taviseburi `kine-

matografiuli anderZi~. Tuki gavi-

xsenebT, rogor uyvars am reJisors

samyaros dasasrulze filmebis ga-

daReba (arada vera da ver `dasrul-

da~ es samyaro), taris gancxadeba da

nicSes mier danaxuli cxenis ambavi

garkveul wilad `gaeriTmeba~ erT-

maneTs, rac aucileblad aRagznebs

aTasgvari damTxvevebisa da konce-

fciebis moyvarul kinokritiko-

sebs. da, rac mTavaria, imaT, visac

sjera, rom kino drosa da sivrceSi

aRbeWdili sikvdilis saxea _ Tun-

dac andrei tarkovskis fan-klubis

wevrebs, romlebic Tanaxmani arian

uyuron andrei arsenieviCis epigo-

nebs _ aleqsandre sokurovs, bruno

diumons, bela tars, oRondac Ta-

vianTi mkvdari kerpis nekrofilur

sivrceSi amoyon Tavi.

am fanklubma wlevandel `berli-

nalezec~ kargad imuSava. miuxeda-

vad imisa, rom filmis msvlelobis

dros, sadRac SuaSi, darbazs rom

vtovebdi, Cemi TvaliT vixile, ro-

gor eZina publikas taris filmze,

berlinis 61-e kinofestivalis Jiu-

rim ungrel reJisors `didi prizi~

mainc gadasca kinoSi gaweuli Rva-

wlisTvis. bela tari scenaze avida,

aiRo prizi, magram araferi uTqva-

ms.. `faq iu~ rom eTqva, fasbinde-

riviT, an moris pialasaviT, SeiZle-

boda marTlac damejerebina, rom

alternatiul kinos iRebs. magram

ganawyenebulma aiRo prizi (nuTu

`oqro~ undoda?) da scenidan Cumad

Camovida. Cemma rusma kolegam, va-

leri kiCinma ganacxada, tars adrec

uTqvams kinos gadaRebas Tavs va-

nebebo... magram mere dafinanse-

ba miuRia da gaugrZelebia kinoSi

moRvaweoba. amitom es prizi mas au-

cileblad daabrunebs kinoSio...

ara... aranairad ar ifiqroT, rom

neli da zanti kinos winaaRmdegi

var. arc darbazSi Zils vaprotes-

teb. xSirad vimeoreb Teo angelo-

pulosis sityvebs _ Cems filmebze

Tu CageZinebaT, iqneb tkbili siz-

mari naxoT, es imis maniSnebeli iq-

neba rom kargi filmi gadaviReo.

Tavis droze, jer iaponelma kaneti

sindom, mere italielma ermano ol-

mim gadaiRes nelze neli filmebi,

romelTa gmirebi gansakuTrebuls

arc arafers akeTebdnen ekranze;

sindos `SiSvel kunZulSi~ da erma-

no olmis filmSi `xe fexsacmele-

bisTvis~ adamianebi Sromoben, saW-

mels amzadeben, iZineben... magram iq

es Senelebuli da gawelili Txro-

ba, dakvirvebuli kamera kaTarzisis

efeqts qmnida. am `sineles~ Tavisi

dramaturgia hqonda. viTardeboda,

ifurCqneboda. imdenad, rom bunebis

sunsac ki grZnobdi ekranidan. aq ki

_ andrei arsenieviCis epigonebTan,

romelTac kino mxolod da mxolod

TviTdamkvidrebis da, Tu gnebavT,

mayureblis manipulirebis saSua-

lebaa, ekrani mxolod da mxolod

sicivisa da sikvdilis SegrZnebas

qmnis. ar gamovricxav, rom viRacas

gulwrfelad siamovnebs sicivis es

SegrZneba. magram is ki namdvilad

vicodi, rom bela tari berlinis sa-

erTaSoriso kinofestivalis mTavar

`daTvs~ verasdros eRirseboda.

werili berlinaledan

msaxiobebi ofer haiouni da gal levi filmi `pomadis~ preskonferenciis dros

46 cxeli Sokoladi

sxvaTa Soris, bela taris wina

filmebs kanis festivalis konkurs-

Sic rTavdnen. `kaci londonidan~

magaliTad, aseve liderobda ram-

denime wlis win, kanis sakonkurso

programaSi. magram ungreli reJiso-

ri maSin prizis gareSe darCa. Zalian

Zlieri iyo kanis kinoforumis pro-

grama imisTvis, rom ̀ sikvdilis kino~

iq Tundac diplomiT aRniSnuliyo.

marTalia, berlinis festivali didi

xania CamorCeba kanis kinoforums

filmebis xarisxiTac, ̀ saxelebiTac~.

`turinis cxenis~ gamarjveba aq,

ubralod, imis maniSnebeli iqneboda,

rom `berlinale~ Rrma krizisSia.

Tumca krizisis niSnebs berlinis

61-e kinofestivali mainc ver ga-

daurCa... da es yvelaze metad jer

`berlinales~ sakonkurso progra-

maSi, Semdeg ki festivalis Sede-

gebSi gamoixata. arasdros yofila

festivalis konkursi aseTi mokle

(mxolod 17 filmi iyo warmodge-

nili) da amave dros, aseTi Wreli.

ufro sworad, aseTi `arakonceftu-

aluri~. konkursSi ar iyo CarTuli

arc erTi iaponuri, Cinuri, espa-

nuri, italuri filmi. ar iyo kino

skandinaviis qveynebidan. im ̀ Contem-porary art~ _ ebs, romelTa msgavss

adre mxolod `panoramis~ progra-

miT uCvenebdnen, cvlida axali po-

litkoreqtuli, da sruliad tradi-

ciul stilSi gadaRebuli filmebi

evropel eqimebze, romlebic afri-

kaSi muSaoben (`Zilis daavadeba~),

germanel memarcxeneebze, romle-

bic eqstremistebi xdebian (`vin, Tu

ara Cven~), albanel axalgazrdebze,

romlebic vendetis Zvel tradi-

ciebs upirispirdebian (`sisxlis

patieba~). wlevandelma festivalma

or, sruliad gansxvavebul kinos ki

dauWira mxari, magram amiT Tavisi

saxe dakarga _ politikuri simwvave.

sakonskurso programa iseTive aR-

moCnda, rogorc amindi festivalis

dReebSi; arc wvimda, arc Tovda,

arc mze anaTebda! nacrisferi iyo

berlini da nacrisferi iyo berli-

nis 61-e kinofestivali.

`berlinales~ direqcia, cxadia,

ver damalavda SeSfoTebas imis

gamo, rom wels `cocxali kinokla-

sikosebis~ absoluturi umravle-

soba filmebs kanis festivalisTvis

inaxavs. pedro almodovarma da

Zmebma dardenebma kinos gadaRebis

grafikic ki ise aawyves, rom axali

filmis premiera kanSi mowyobiliyo.

axalgazrda-debiutantebi ki, rom-

lebic farTod iyvnen warmodgenil-

ni wlevandel ̀ berlinaleze~, jado-

qrebi ar arian ekonomikuri krizisis

dros, sakmarisi fuli rom iSovon

srulmetraJiani filmis gadasaRe-

bad... iseTi STabeWdileba rCeba,

rom festivalis direqtorma, diter

koslikma gangeb daiwyo sakonkur-

so Cveneba amerikeli debiutantis,

jei sendoris filmiT `ukiduresi

moTxovna~, romlis moqmedeba 2008

wels, erT amerikul sainvensticio

bankSi xdeba. suraTis avtori, ame-

rikuli `damoukidebeli kinos~ war-

momadgeneli, mourideblad gamoxa-

tavs maqinaciebs amerikul sabanko

sistemaSi, Tumca maikl murisa da

oliver stounisgan gansxvavebiT,

aranairad ar cdilobs Tanamedrove

kapitalizmis mxilebas.

>>> gagrZeleba gv. 92

`naderi da simini. ganqorwineba~, reJisori ashar farhadi `SabaTs~, reJisori aleqsandre mindaZe

`turinis cxeni~, reJisori bela tari `vin, Tu ara Cven~, reJisori anres veieli

cxeli Sokoladi 47

avtori: ana korZaia-samadaSvili

tabadan, siyvaruliT

politika ar mesmis, ar mainte-

resebs da ar minda. magram is mainc

sul mexeba da cxovrebas mifuWe-

bs. misgan xeiri ar maxsovs, wyena _

uTvalavi.

axlac ase moxda.

Cems cxovrebaSi pirvelad Tavze

xeli aviRe, `interkontinental-

Si~ SesaniSnavi sagzuri viyide da

egvipteSi gavemgzavre, arc `masa-

lisTvis~, arc samuSaod, arc sa-

Tarjimnod, aramed dasasveneblad.

burJuaziis mokrZalebuli xibli da

msgavsebi.

ar Semergo. ara, Zalian kargi

iyo, Zalian visiamovne, magram Cemi

samoTxe sami dRiT adre damatove-

bines qalebma, romelTac TavianTi

`baoebi~ moenatraT, mamakacebma,

rogorebsac didi germanuli ena

Klugscheisser-ebs uwodebs da, rac

mTavaria, politikurma movlenebma,

romlebic aranairad ar mexeboda,

magram mainc Semexo.

arada, iciT, ramdeni ramis

moswreba SeiZleba sami dRe-Ramis

ganmavlobaSi? magaliTad, sinas

mTaze asvla. an wminda ekaterines

monastris daTvaliereba. an farao-

nis kunZulTan wiTel zRvaSi yvin-

Tva. an qviSaSi wola da butbuti:

`ra kargia... ra kargia... ra kargia...~

`Zaan wynarad, Zaan Cotkad~

27.01.11

dRes am kargi dReebis pirveli

dRea. ukve _ Rame. tabaSi, wiTeli

zRvis sanapiroze.

aqeTobas dro vatare _ nu ityvi.

ar vici, Cemi sisxliviT wiTeli,

Tarsi Tavis brali Tu iyo _ Sen ar

ginaxavs, SeviRebe da amieridan Se-

giZlia „bandera rosa“ damiZaxo. ase

Tu ise, faqtia, rom sazRvarze qa-

mari Semxsnes, mxolod me Semxsnes,

da Tan qamari, romlis wyalobiTac

jinsi muxlebamde ar mvardeba. da es

uSvelebeli Sarvali orive xeliT

welTan rom mqonda CabRujuli, mi-

Txres, fexze gaixadeo.

ai, rogor?

movaxerxe, magram rogor visiamo-

vne, xom warmogidgenia.

kai, gavicine da daviviwye. Turme,

sad xar!? TviTmfrinavi arasodes

afrinda, aeroportSi gaugebrobaa

48 cxeli Sokoladi

werili egviptidan

raRaco, da erTi saaTis mere _ raRa

dagimalo da arc gamigia, Rrma Zi-

liT meZina, _ gamoacxades, mister

korZaia, erTi, aq modio. mgzavrebi

aqoTqoTdnen da damanjRries. vai?

Tavze davabije mZinare gugas da

gamcileblebTan mivedi. gamiyvanes

TviTmfrinavidan da mimiyvanes Cems

CanTasTan. Tqveniao? meTqi, ki. me-

reo? mere ra-meTqi? Sig ra devso?

meTqi, tansacmeli. marTlao? meTqi,

me movkvde. kargi, bodiSi, qalbato-

noo.

ra iyo esa?

daskvnis saxiT, Cemma axalma, bio-

metrulma Tu raRac ubedurma pas-

portma egviptis sazRvarze Tavi

moiWra. verafriT ver gaatares.

„sistema ver mkiTxulobs,“ rogorc

mavanni ityodnen, amosawyvetebi.

kargaxans vuRime arab mesazRvres,

manac miRima _ vai da ras hgavda!

TxuTmeti wuTi mainc mayuryutes

„gaucxoebis zonaSi“.

mere ki gamovedi udabnoSi da mi-

vxvdi, rom yvelafris moTmena Rir-

da, imitom rom Zalian karg adgilas

amovyavi Tavi.

Tavad gansaje: axla verandaze

vzivar da sam qveyanas _ israels,

iordanias da saudis arabeTs erTad

vuyureb meoTxe qveynidan, egvipti-

dan. zafxulis Ramea, sandlebi ma-

cvia, da Cemi sawyali sxeuli cota

dabneulia _ amxela sixaruls namd-

vilad ar eloda: SesaniSnavi amindi,

qviSiani sanapiro, vaxSami, rogoric,

ra xania, ar Rirsebia, da kaxi da

guga _ ai, meti ra? gasagebia, zemo-

dan erTi joni depic ar iqneboda

urigo, magram, patara ufliswulis

melakudasi ar iyos, „eh, sruli bed-

niereba ar arsebobs...“

kaxim, romelic egvipteSi ramde-

nime Tve cxovrobda, mogvaxsena,

rom Tormeti dRe ase vicxovrebT,

„Zaan wynarad, Zaan Cotkad“.

waval axla, davgordebi. Zalian

grZeli dRe gamomivida. me mgoni,

kargi wigni maqvs Tan, „saragosaSi

napovni xelnaweri“ _ wakiTxuli ga-

qvs? vnaxav erTi, ra xdeba.

ana k.s.

`mayvals ar endo!~

28.01.11

wignma gaamarTla. sul maqciebis,

saxrCobelaze moqanave yaCaRebis da

or-or grZneulTan mosiyvarule

raindebis ambebia.

samagierod, sxva rameSi magrad ar

gamimarTla.

qalebi!

angelozi nia da oqro Tamara ki

ara, qalebi.

guSin vifiqre, rom suleli qale-

bis sazogadoeba sasiamovnoc kia _

TavisTvis kakaneben raRacas „yve-

laferi yiramalas“ Jruna dedle-

cxeli Sokoladi 49

werili egviptidan

biviT... Turme, Sevcdi. dRes deda

mitires, sul sunTqviTi varjiSebi

vatare, rom rame uzrdeloba ar me-

Tqva.

kaxim ki mainc Tqva: „kargi gogoa.

ai, Zaan.“

saerTod, siamovnebiT davwerdi

traqtats Temaze „lamazia gurji

qali“, oRond lasi oTxfexiani Tu

oTxTaviani unda iyos, ara lazur-

Wanuri, aramed gaRmuri. merwmu-

ne: gansakuTrebuli safrTxe rame

mogzaurobis dros mzeTunaxavTa

mezoblobaa, Tu danebdi, moginele-

ben.

gadavuxvie. taba heiTsis Sesaxeb

unda momeyola. taba heiTsi Cveni

sastumrodan, romelsac „mzesumzi-

ra laJvardovani“ hqvia, daaxloebiT

oci wuTis savalSia. gza aseTia: erT

mxares _ wiTeli kldeebi, meore mxa-

res _ zRva, gzaze ki TviTmkvleli

mZRolebi, sabednierod, cotani, sa-

aTSi aTas kilometrs faraven. Tavad

dasaxlebis aRwera me ar SemiZlia,

romeli kafka me var. ara, mainc ve-

cdebi. warmoidgine sicxe, ca, rome-

lic ori wuTis win lurji iyo, axla

ki Savia, qviSis udabnoSi _ palmebis

meCxeri, Zunwad ganaTebuli xeivani,

da aqa-iq _ wiTeli, narinjisferi da

yviTeli, patara saxlebi, romelTa

fanjrebidanac Suqi ar gamodis da

verc Sig Seixedav, darabebi mxolod

alag-alagaa gaxvretili. dasaxle-

baSi siCumea. sul ramdenime adamiani

davinaxe, mamakacebi. isini saxlebis

win dganan, martoni, sibneleSi. ra-

tom _ kacma ar icis. albaT, giyure-

ben. an ar giyureben. midi da gaige.

mere iyo didi moedani, sruliad

carieli. am moednidan erTaderTi

ganaTebuli TaRis gavliT daaxlo-

ebiT Seni sastumro oTaxisxela qu-

Caze gavediT. iq iyo maRazia, sadac

kedebi, „arieli“ da namcxvrebi iyi-

deboda, oRond arc myidveli Canda,

arc gamyidveli, mis mopirdapire

mxares ki Teqvsmetiode wlis ymawvi-

li indauris bumbulis maraos aqne-

vda maylis msgavsi raRacis Tavze.

ratom _ ar vici. ar mikiTxavs. arc

arafris suni ar idga.

da iq dagvireka _ ar daijereb!

_ romeliRac qarTuli arxis Jur-

nalistma da kaxis hkiTxa, pirda-

pir eTerSi, rogor xarT egvipteSi

qarTvelebio. Turme, kairoSi deda

Svils ar iyvans, mTavroba Seicvala,

xalxi daixoca...

axla saerTaSoriso kavSiri ga-

wyda, telefoni da interneti ar

funqcionirebs. ramdens vicineb,

revolucionerebma xaroSi rom Ca-

magdon, fexze is raRac katorRele-

bis bambalika momaban, xmela purze

damsvan da samSoblos Cemi gamo-

sasyidi Tanxa mosTxovon!

vxumrom. darwmunebuli var, rom

50 cxeli Sokoladi

werili egviptidan

aRTqmuli miwis siaxloves ar davr-

Cebi saSviliSvilod, samkvirian ta-

tusac gavikeTeb, da mere me da guga

sinas mTazec avaRwevT.

„mayvlis buCqebs ar endoT!“ _ ga-

gvafrTxila kaxim. „aq ar izrdeba.“

manamde ki wavedi Cems maqciebTan.

ise, wignis avtorma mTavari gmi-

ri bolos sinanulSi rom Caagdos,

SevaCveneb, da Cemi, ucodveli da

ganwmendili anas wyevla aucile-

blad miuva _ Turme, sinaze Tu fe-

xiT axvedi, yvela codva Segendoba,

Tu aqlemiT aaRwie _ miqarulis

mxolod naxevari, rac, TavisTavad,

ukve saqmea, magram me viTombeduine-

bTan vaWrobis Tavi ara maqvs da fe-

xiT aval. ar ikiTxav, ras akeTeben?

SeuTanxmdebi, rom aTad agiyvans,

da agiyvans, oRond samsarTuliani

cxovelidan aRar Camogsvams, sanam

ormocdaaTs ar gadauxdi, da meo-

red mosvlamde ijdebi ase, sunian

aqlemze. beduins ra enaRvleba, sxva

saqme aqvs Tu ra...

fexiT, fexiT!

ana k.s.

hamami da sxva samoTxeebi

29.01.11

kaxis iseTi suni aqvs! suni sakvir-

veli. nelsacxeblebis maRaziaSi 191

santimetrianma kaxim Taros Tavi

aartya da sul zed gadaevlo ma-

radiuli axalgazrdobis, ukvdavi

siyvarulis, faraonebis simdidris

da dauRalavi ereqciis zeTebi.

axla ki, roca kaxim daibana, arie-

lis ambavs giambob. verafriT gavix-

sene, udabnos da nais suls ra hqvia,

ai, imas, morwmune ifriTi romaa, da

ha, jandabas, erqvas am saocrebas

arieli.

arieli aqauri masaJistia, hamami

ki, mogexseneba, yvelafers mirCev-

nia. es arieli, didi-didi, ocdaxuTi

wlisa iqneba, iseTi lamazia, Tvalebi

amiWrelda, da, me mgoni, cota jado-

qaria. didi xnis yayanis mere Seda-

rebiT adamianur fasad mis ferxTiT

aRmovCndi, cxel qvaze, romelsac

arabulad Turme „qaif“ hqvia.

iqidan or saaTSi gamovcocdi, sa-

xeze idiotis Rimili damTamaSebda,

da Cems danaxvaze auzTan mjdomma

kaxim gugas Cumad da seriozulad

uTxra: „araa kargad.“

piriqiT. Zalian kargad var. dRes

iseTi zRva iyo, Sig motivtive ga-

nuwyvetliv vbutbutebdi: „vax, ra

kargia“. mfrinavi Tevzebi vnaxe _ ar

ici, ra idiotebi arian. TeTri fr-

TebiT. dRemde ver gaugiaT, Citebi

arian Tu Tevzebi. Zalian gaviruje

da wylidan amosvlis mere aTiode

wuTSi mTel sxeulze TiTqos mtve-

ri meyara _ marili.

>>> gagrZeleba gv. 95

cxeli Sokoladi 51

werili egviptidan

istoria

52 cxeli Sokoladi

avtori: SoTa gagarini

foto: marika qoCiaSvili

gavla _ gaTvla _ gaTla

istoria

„cxovreba ufro xSirad hgavs novelas,

vidre novela _ cxovrebas“

JorJ sandi

ar vifxorebi, tyuilad ar daviwye

es werili im mwerali qalis sityve-

biT, gagania mecxramete saukuneSi,

Tanamedroveebis gulisgasaxeTqad,

kacis tanisamosiT rom daseirnob-

da da nu ityviT, Turme gemrielad

eqaCeboda Tambaqos xalxmraval ad-

gilebSi. dRes ramdenime egeTi qa-

lis xseneba momiwevs _ naRdi qalis,

xazgasmulad qalis, ormagad qalis _

calke (sazogadoebriv, politikur)

cxovrebaSi rom cdiloben qalis xma

Weqdes da calke literaturaSi.

literaturas movayoleb _ ori

kargi wigni wavikiTxe am Tves, erTi

mxatvruli, erTic samecniero _ „ga-

Tvla“ da „melanqoliis gzamkvlevi“.

pirveli qarTvelma dawera, meore ki

axali zelandiis mkvidrma. principSi,

saerTo am or wigns Soris imdenivea,

ramdenic saqarTvelosa da axal ze-

landias Soris _ mxolod formaluri

niSnebi. wesiT, erTaderTi ram, rac

Cems maxsovrobaSi maT daakavSirebda,

wakiTxvis mimdevroba unda yofiliyo.

kidev is, rom orives avtori qalia,

magram TamTa melaSvilis gadamkide,

Cemma davirusebulma operatiulma

sistemam am or wigns erT saqaRalde-

Si ukra Tavi.

mokled, ra xdeba: „melanqoliis

gzamkvlevis“ avtori, profesori

jeki bauringi lamis kanidan Zvreba,

ise unda damarwmunos melanqoliis,

anu mamapapurad rom vTqvaT kaeSnis,

Wmunvis, naRvlianobis socialur

sargebelSi, aTasi genialuri nawar-

moebis Tu gmiris saxiT (hamletidan _

betmenamde), xolo „gaTvlis“ avtori

TamTa melaSvili cocxali magaliTia

mwerlisa, vinc Tavisi bluzi or ydas

Soris moaqcia, gulis nadebi gagvi-

ziara. „gulis nadebs“ mwerlebTan

dakavSirebul kliSed nu miiRebT,

am SemTxvevaSi marTla im mweralze

maqvs saubari melanqolias rom iye-

nebs gzad da xidad. TamTas amgvari

cxeli Sokoladi 53

ganwyoba-temperamenti CemTvis siaxle

iyo. kai xania vicnob, xuT welze meti

iqneba, magram mTeli am drois gan-

mavlobaSi vicnobdi qalad, romlis

„Tvalebi hgavda SokoladSi amovle-

buli alublis bombs, cecxlmokide-

buli fiTiliT“. aRmoCnda, rom es

Tvalebi sinamdvileSi cixea, fiqrebi

ki _ personaluri kamera mkiTxvele-

bisTvis. an rodis ras unda mivmxvda-

riyavi _ melanqoliki iyo, sangviniki,

qoleriki Tu flegmatiki. TiTqmis

ar gvilaparakia erTmaneTTan. erT

pontSi roca vxvdebodiT, xan Cems

mier uzadod Semwvar, anu samyaro-

Si saukeTeso mwvads vWamdiT, xanac

veweodiT (madloba Sako fasanauris-

Tvis). pirveli, rac TamTas vkiTxe

interviuze _ eqvsi gverdi rogor

gavavsoT-meTqi. ra debili viyavi...

megona saubarSi artileriis roli

wigns unda etvirTa. piriqiT moxda.

siuzan sontagisa ar iyos, tkivilis

esTetizaciaze, anu nawarmoebze min-

doda saubari da „sxvisi tkivilebis

Sesaxeb“ ambebSi CaviZire. naRd, cxo-

vrebiseul ambebSi, romelic ufro

xSirad hgavs novelas, vidre novela

cxovrebas.

rac Seexeba konkretulad „ga-

Tvlas“, CaTvale, es Seni literatu-

ruli Tavania. gamosvlis TariRis

da formatis gaTvaliswinebiT, ha-ha

martis bolos unda Cabardes, Tu Ta-

vmoyvare xar da fuflomkiTxvelis

saxeli ar gitydeba. ise, „cxel Soko-

lads“ da „gaTvlas“ erTi fasi aqvs da

vinicobaa am xuTma larma gadawyvi-

tos yvelaferi, saCkavikebs patara

nakols mogcemT, saWiroebis SemTxve-

vaSi Tavi rom daiZvrinoT. maS ase:

roca miwa danaRmulia, roca sivr-

ce dasazRvrulia, sazRvarze gavla

ki gaTvlaa: iwilo-biwilo, SroSano-

gvritino... vinc ver gavida, isRa

darCenia daixuWos da daiTvalos

darCenili cxovrebis wuTebi.

ver-asvla ganaCenia.

aseTia yoveldRiuroba dasaxlebe-

bSi, romlebsac xSirad konfliqtur

regionad Tu buferul zonad moi-

xsenieben. am mSral, sicocxlisgan

daclil terminebSi Znelia dainaxo

cocxali adamianebi, adamianebi, ro-

melTa cxovrebac rusul rulets

damsgavsebia. CvenTvis, prafanebis-

Tvisaa Zneli, Torem TamTa melaS-

vils iseTi maxvili mzera aRmoaCnda,

rom sakompensaciod calma yurma

daustuka (bodiSi TamTa, veRar mo-

viTmine).

am maxvili mzeriT da basri eniT

avtori mkvaxe terminebs mkvriv garss

aTlis, raTa mkiTxvels maTi namdvi-

li gemo agrZnobinos. gvaCvenos, ra

xilia es konfliqtis zonebi, romle-

bzec davarcxnili telemosaxleebi

ise gulgrilad gviamboben, TiTqos

marTla leRvis mosavalze yvebodnen.

gavla _ gaTvla _ gaTla.

am SesaniSnav nawarmoebSi moTxro-

bili nincos da cqnafas ambavi Cveni

ambavicaa _ humanitaruli katastro-

febis pirobebSi gazrdili sazoga-

doebis, romelic sulmouTqmelad

elis „koridoris gaxsnas“ samSvido-

bos gasaRwevad. ganzogadebis sababs

gmirebis ucnauri Txrobac iZleva,

verc erT dialeqts an intonacias

rom ver miakuTvneb. moqmedebis droc

ar Cans. Sedegad, nawarmoebis qrono-

toposs survilisamebr ise gavberav

da gavwelav, gemogasuli keviviT, ro-

melsac, rogorc minimum, oci welia

yvelani erT taqtSi vReWavT.

_ xo, amdeni ar mifiqria, magram

rac miTxari momwons, _ siciliT meu-

bneba TamTa.

_ es uZlieresi personaJebi saidan

gaCdnen? prototipebi gyavda?

_ ara, ar myolia, ubralod, raRa-

cebi movipare cxovrebidan. koconis

scena Tu gaxsovs, dedaCemma dawva ase

tansacmeli, Cemma dam _ naxatebi. me

monawileobas ar vRebulobdi, vuyu-

rebdi. es STabeWdileba cxovrebis

bolomde gamyveba, albaT.

_ pirvel wignze aseT pozitiur ga-

moxmaurebas ramdenad elodi?

_ ar mifiqria magaze. ubralod, im-

deni raRac mqonda dagrovili, unda

gadmometana ra.

saerTod, sadebiuto romanebi ra-

mdenime Tve, weli, zogjer ki mTeli

cxovreba ixarSeba avtoris TavSi,

gansxvavebiT meore, e.w. sofomoruli

romanisgan, romlis Cavardnis riski

miT ufro didia, Tuki debiuti war-

matebuli gamodga. saqme imaSia, rom

kurdRlisebri startis SemTxvevaSi,

meore romanis dasabeWdad calke ga-

momcemlebi gaCqareben, calke saku-

Tari pativmoyvareoba. am mxriv, Ti-

Tqos Rvinis kultivirebas waagavs

wignze muSaoba. rac ufro daaZveleb

naJurs, miT ufro asiamovneb damge-

movnebels mere da mere. ara, ise ar

gamigoT, TiTqos kai „samagons“ vak-

ninebde. pontis da xasiaTis ambavia.

yovel SemTxvevaSi, me winaaRmdegi ar

viqnebi, TamTam Semdeg jerze napal-

miviT WaWa SemomTavazos. bazari araa.

ubralod, imas vambob, ratom dasWir-

da am patara, magram didi wignis mo-

xarSvas or welze meti.

„gaTvlis“ dawera avtors 2008 wlis

omma ubiZga, _ oRond maqsimalurad

vecade, rom es konkretuli sivrciT

ar Semomefarglao, _ meubneba, _ „xo,

manamde 2008-Sive „weroze“ (litera-

turuli konkursia aseTi) gavagzavne

am ideiT dawerili nawarmoebi, raRac

uvargisi, sam furcliani moTxroba.

am SesaniSnav nawarmoebSi

moTxrobili nincos da cqnafas

ambavi Cveni ambavicaa _ humanitaruli katastrofebis pirobebSi

gazrdili sazogadoebis, romelic

sulmouTqmelad elis `koridoris

gaxsnas~ samSvidobos gasaRwevad.

istoria

54 cxeli Sokoladi

ra Tqma unda, ar gavida, magram vfi-

qrobdi, rom idea dasakargi araa. me

ase var. raRac dro mWirdeba, rom

momwifdes“.

_ ici ra mitydeba yvelaze metad?

_ vekiTxebi.

_ ra?

_ amxela katastrofa moxda 2008-

Si, sami weli gavida, aTobiT wigni ga-

moica da marto sami Tu oTxi novela

wavikiTxe, sadac oms raRac adgili

uWiravs.

_ imdenjer vTqvi (ukve Cems Tavs

veRar vitan), rom ai, rac iwereba am

omze, iwereba kacebis mier. marto he-

roika ki ara, maskulinuri krizisebi

da rame. vifiqre, kargi iqneboda Tu

qalis TvaliTac SevxedavdiT.

_ ara, me sxva rames vgulisxmob.

sityvaze, amerika aviRoT. amis deda

vatire, saerTod ar Sexebia omi saku-

Tar teritoriaze, magram ginda meore

msoflio iyos, ginda vietnamis, mTe-

li Semdgomi mwerluri Taobebi gamo-

Carxes am omebma. es Sokirebuli mwer-

lebi, omis Svilebi... Cveni mwerlebis

ganwyobaze kars momdgari katastro-

fac ar moqmedebs. ise udardelad

grZnoben Tavs, rogorc fiCxwayrili

mowameebi, roca ratomRac cecxli ar

inTeba. megona CemsaviT amaze mogeSa-

la nervebi da aseTi mZafri emociebis

momgvreli „gaTvlac“ amis Sedegia.

_ nervebi ki momeSala, magram li-

teraturuli konteqstebi arafer

SuaSia. piradi, umisamarTo protes-

ti iyo, ufro omis mimarT. aseTi

protestebi maqvs mTeli cxovreba.

SeiZleba paTetikurad JRerdes, ma-

gram „gaTvla“ protestis gamoxatvis

saukeTeso formad miviCnie.

_ omi piradad Segexo?

_ ara... xo. piradad Semexo, rogorc

moqalaqes. omi xom oTxmocdaaTiane-

bidan moyolebuli yvelas gvexeba.

oTxmocdaaTianebSi mec imave asakis

viyavi, rac, vTqvaT, „gaTvlis“ mTava-

ri gmirebi.

interviuze kidev ufro gamimyarda

hipoTeza, romlis Tanaxmadac Cven,

90-ianebSi wamoCitul mkiTxvelebs,

da mwerlebsac, mokled, yvelas am

Taobidan, visac wignTan pirdapiri

an iribi kavSiri aqvs, sul sxvanairi

biografia eqneboda, erTi konkre-

tuli seria rom ar gamoecaT diad

sabWoTa saqarTveloSi _ gemaxsovre-

baT, _ latviuri, skandinaviuri, es-

tonuri da a.S. zRaprebi. yvelas mier

Carakrakebuli normativia. axla rom

vfiqrob, arc mikvirs am zRaprebis

sakulto wignoba. Cvens bavSvobas xom

saaRlumod gamowvrTnili saldafo-

niviT uwyobda fexs samoqalaqo omi

da sxva socialuri kataklizmebi.

realobisgan gaqcevis saqmeSi, Cems

TaobasTan SedarebiT, Jil deliozic

naRdi diletantia.

ara marto bavSvoba, Semdgomi wle-

bic CvenTvis unisonSi midioda. roca

RrublebSi gaSenebuli zRapruli

citadelebidan, nebiT Tu uneblieT,

„warmatebis“ da „luzerebis“ samya-

roSi vadendiT bragvans, fantaziebi

ukan rCeboda. da vinaidan literatu-

ra CvenTvis sxva araferi iyo Tu ara

fantazia, masac sxva saTamaSoebiviT

mivatovebdiT da miviviwyebdiT xol-

me, rogorc asakisTvis Seuferebel

rames. mere standartuli ambavia, Se-

vardnaZe, stabiluroba, ojaxur kon-

siliumebze SerCeuli fakultetebi

da samuSao sfero _ TamTas SemTxve-

vaSi saerTaSoriso urTierTobebi,

rogorc Cems SemTxvevaSi _ ekonomika.

moCvenebiTi simSvide.

magram boloSi mainc gerxeva. gag-

nebs. gagnebs, rogorc warsulidan

saSvelad gamogzavnili terminato-

ri. gagnebs da Tavdayira ayenebs yve-

lafers. „ar vdardob, rom ar vici,

rodis mova aisi. me mainc vaReb yve-

la kars“ _ lamazad Tqva dikinsonma.

es poetebi mZRners mogyidian oqros

fasad, vaRiaroT, zogjer am avbediT

aiss sul fexebze hkidia Ria gaqvs

kari Tu ara, wixliT Semodis. amje-

rad, nacnoboba literaturasTan la-

mazi samyaros Seneba ki ara, piriqiT,

skurpulozurad naSenebi samyaros

ngrevaa, wigni ki realobis aRmweria

da ara realobisgan gasaqcevi adgili.

_ selinjeri! _ ambobs TamTa.

_ alen ginzbergi! „vardisferi

proWi“ _ roca pirvelad gavige, rom

leqsSi amis Tqma SeiZleba... aman Ca-

mavlo. manamde faSisti fundamenta-

listi viyavi!

_ ho, kidev „axalgazrda verteris

vnebebis“ rimeiqi iyo plencdorfis

„axalgazrda v-s axali vnebani“, Za-

lian Jargonuli eniT aris naweri,

magari Targmania, maSin rom waviki-

Txe, Zalian gansxvavebulad meCvena.

Semcvala. wagikiTxavs?

_ ara, _ vpasuxob, _ gveyo ra wigne-

bze, cxovrebaze vilaparakoT.

_ amiT ver gaavseb eqvs gverds?

_ vera.

- ra mogiyve... 2004 wels Zalian

istoria

cxeli Sokoladi 55

cudi periodi mqonda da stresebis

gamo marjvena yurSi davkarge smena...

ras icini, marTla. Zalian sasacilo

situaciebSi magdebs, Tu, vTqvaT,

xmauria da aqedan viRaca melaparake-

ba, ar mesmis. magaria, uintereso le-

qciaze...

_ akaki wereTeliviT zixar?

_ ho, CEU-Si xSirad gamomiyenebia.

budapeStSi, centraluri evropis

universitetSi TamTa genders swa-

vlobda. magistratura gaiara. esec

erT-erTi gza iyo rutinisgan Tavis

dasaRwevad. rogorc hanibals romi

sZuls, siTx imperators _ liuk skai-

vokeri, hosni mubaraqs _ mark cuker-

bergi, jokers _ betmeni, dimitri

lorTqifaniZes _ elton joni, Ta-

mTasac egre zaravs rutina, romelic

stresis mets arafers uqadis.

16 wlis ukve marto cxovrobda

TbilisSi. mSoblebze arc manamde

vyofilvar Camokidebulio _ meubne-

ba. ori umcrosi da da erTi Zma roca

gyavs SenTvis energia, ubralod, aRar

darCebaTo. „es damoukideblobac ar

vici, ra aris. bevri ramiT vityuebT

Tavs, mgoni damoukideblobac erT-

erTi maTgania. mainc socialuri cxo-

velebi varT,“ _ ambobs siciliT.

mTeli misi cxovreba damoukide-

blobisTvis brZola da Sinagani Zie-

bebia, samyaroSi adgilis povnis mc-

deloba. uamrav adgilze scada bedi

_ ZiZac yofila, mimtani, Tarjimani,

asistenti, mdivani heteronormatiu-

li garegnobiT, samTavrobo stru-

qturebSic umuSavia. „bevri profesia

rom movsinje, vfiqrob, ufro sainte-

resod vicxovre, vidre standartuli

formuliT SevZlebdi. modeli romaa

_ daamTavreb instituts, gaTxovde-

bi, bavSvs gaaCen, an SeiZleba parala-

lurad raRac kariera aiwyo, manqana

iyido, ganvadebiT sarecxi manqana an

karada gamoitano. ar mindoda mec

es biliki gameTela, romelsac yvela

qali miyveba, an cdilobs gayves. fi-

qroben, rom es gza TviTon airCies“.

yvelaferi roca swyindeba guda-

nabads kravs da gzas miuyveba. pirve-

lad germaniaSi amoyo Tavi. fortu-

nas mamacebi uyvars. mxolod is oTxi

winadadeba icoda, rac saelCoSi unda

eTqva da zustad Sesabamisi kiTxve-

bi dausves bedad. Sefasebis grafa-

Si Cauweres, rom germanuls sxlavs.

erT wlamde gaCerda Tavisi sayvare-

li mwerlis, elfride ielinekis sa-

mSobloSi. sadme Cabareba da studen-

toba daezara. roca mixvda, rom ukve

kargad iyo, Semobrunda da ukan wamo-

vida. meore didi voiaJi budapeStSi

moartya, amjerad, saswavlad.

radikali feministia, Tumca ara se-

paratisti feministi. mokled, yvela-

nair ybadaRebul rols gaurbis, gen-

derulsac ki. Sexedulebebi nel-nela

uyalibdeboda. aT welze meti daWir-

da imis dasadgenad, rogor surs cxo-

vreba _ ra surs pirad frontze, ra

sazogadoebrivze.

axla uflebadacviT seqtorSia,

marginalur jgufebs icavs. gansxva-

vebulobisa da saTemo aqtivizmis

kuTxiT muSaobs. meubneba, rom, bo-

los da bolos, ipova saqme, romelic

moswons da anazRaurebadicaa. pirve-

li aseTi SemTxvevaao.

_ Tan werisTvis da fiqrisTvis be-

vri dro ar mrCeba da bednieri var

amiT.

_ mainc genderiT daamTavre da

axla marginaluri jgufebis dacvaSi

ipove Tavi e.i. CEU-s periodi pragma-

tuli arCevanic yofila, atmosferos

Secvlis da stresebisgan tvinis ga-

niavebis garda. qalic xom marginalu-

ri jgufia?

_ genderi marto qalis uflebebi

da feminizmi araa. kacisacaa. esaa,

zogadad, identobis sakiTxebi, aseve

lgbt. arasworadaa motanili Cvenam-

de da imitom aqvT alergia genderis

gagonebaze. feminizmze uaresi aler-

gia aqvT.

_ me saerTod mgonia, rom feminis-

tebi saqarTveloSi ufro CvenTvis

ibrZvian, mamakacebisTvis. am mono-

liTuri niRbis dasamsxvrevad, yovel

dRe rom vikeTebT, emand vinmem ar

dainaxos, rom patriarqic iRebs da-

bneul, SeSinebul gamometyvelebas

xandaxan. ar vpadxalimob.

_ bevri meubneba, rom bevr rames

virTuleb, roca vambob, rom feminis-

ti var. zogi meubneba ar xar femi-

nistio. ar vemTxvevi feministebze Ca-

moyalibebul sulelur stereotips.

ar var maskulinuri, ar var boroti,

ar var maxinji, rogorc warmoudge-

niaT xolme. saerTod, raRac yalibs

roca ver ergebi, es dabneulobas

iwvevs. 31 wlis var, arc coli var

da arc bokvers vuzrdi samSoblos,

es ukve saSiSia viRacisTvis. Znelia

stereotipebis dangreva. vfiqrob,

samoqalaqo aqtivizmze efeqturi

literaturis saSualebiT brZolaa.

SeiZleba Zalian xmamaRali naTqvamia,

ra efeqtic iqonia magaliTad ieli-

nekma Cemze, igives miRwevas vcdilob

_ mkiTxveli rom davafiqro, ar aqvs

mniSvneloba qali iqneba Tu kaci. amis

maprovocirebeli Temebi minda Semo-

vitano teqstSi _ bevri, bevri seqsi.

_ ho, seqsic, omis ar iyos, CvenSi

marto kaci mwerlebis Temaa. enac

xels uwyobs, marto egeni „tynaven“

viRaceebs. qali ltolvis obieqtia

mxolod.

_ SemdegSi qalebis seqsualobis

Temas Sevexo minda, Cems gmirebs es

agenda-c rom hqondeT. Tumca jer

arafers ar vwer. visveneb. raRac ide-

ebi maqvs, magram momzadeba mWirdeba.

ixarSeba...

31 wlis var, arc coli var

da arc bokvers vuzrdi

samSoblos, es ukve saSiSia

viRacisTvis. Znelia stereotipebis

dangreva. vfiqrob, samoqalaqo

aqtivizmze efeqturi literaturis

saSualebiT brZolaa.

istoria

56 cxeli Sokoladi

istoria

cxeli Sokoladi 57

qarTuli konformizmis Sesaxeb

erTgvari literaturuli analizi

imisa, rac xdeboda 20-22 wlis win sa-

qarTveloSi. ratom SeinaxeT es Tema

aqamde?

naira gelaSvili: mwerlis, iseve

rogorc xalxis sulSi midis raRac

auxsneli procesebi, romelsac sa-

xels ver daarqmev. es romani 20 weli

ar mixarSia, is 92-94 wlebSi davwere,

2009 wels ki, ubralod, redaqcia ga-

vukeTe. TviTonac mikvirs, amdeni xani

ratom ar mindoda am wignis gamocema.

raRacnairad mqonda da maqvs gancda,

rom Cvens sinamdvileSi sityva aRar

mniSvnelobs, arc dawerili da arc

_ naTqvami. saerTod literaturis,

misi Zalmosilebis mimarT didi xania

gamiCnda eWvi.

zviad qoriZe: anu, ar kiTxuloben?

naira gelaSvili: ho, ar kiTxulo-

ben, an ver kiTxuloben ise, rogorc

unda kiTxulobdnen. TviTon es rTu-

li wignia da raRacnairad gamowvevaa

im TvalsazrisiT, rom Tanamedrove

`arc mwvadi dawva da arc Samfuri~

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eCiTovi

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eCiTovi

interviu

zviad qoriZe: qalbaton naira ge-

laSvils, mwerals, kavkasiuri saxlis

xelmZRvanels, vTxove gvesaubra erT,

albaT, Zalian mniSvnelovan proble-

maze, romelic qarTuli gamoTqmis

saxiT gamovitaneT `netgazeTis~ mTa-

var gverdze: „arc mwvadi dawva da

arc Samfuri“.

gasul wels Tqven gamouSviT wig-

ni, romelic Zalian didxans, 20 weli

`xarSeT~, `pirveli ori wre~. am wig-

nisTvis Tqven miiReT „saba“. es aris

58 cxeli Sokoladi

qarTveli mkiTxveli iseve gamotove-

bs am wignSi mTel rig analitikur ad-

gilebs da pasaJebs, rogorc mTelma

qveyanam gamotova ganmanaTlebloba

da a.S.

zviad qoriZe: gamotovebs, radgan

eSinia, Tavisi Tavi ar amoikiTxos iq?

naira gelaSvili: wigns rTuli

struqtura da mravali plasti aqvs.

stiluri plastebis CaTvliT. is,

rac mxatvruladaa gamosaxuli, Se-

mdeg mecnierulad aris gaanalize-

buli, oRond es analizi mocemulia

meoce saukunis sami didi moazrovnis

albert Svaiceris, konrad lorenci-

sa da ortega i gasetis saetapo naS-

romebis vrceli reziumeebis saxiT.

rac organuladaa romanSi CarTuli,

radgan moqmedeba mTargmnelobiT

centrSi mimdinareobs, sadac ara

mxolod iTargmneba dasavluri teqs-

tebi, aramed iwereba winaTqmebic maT-

Tvis. konrad lorencis `civilizebu-

li kacobriobis rva momakvdinebeli

codva~ da ortega i gasetis `masebis

amboxi~ marTla iTargmna qarTulad

oTxmocian wlebSi da gamoica. mec

amitom SevarCie. magram maT vrceli

analitikuri reziumeebi ar axlda.

zviad qoriZe: mTeli problema isaa,

rom es wignebi iTargmna, daido Ta-

roze, magram sazogadoebam, romelic

moxvda transformaciis periodSi, ar

_ an ver waikiTxa.

naira gelaSvili: sxvaTa Soris, es

swored iseT wlebSi moxda, roca sa-

zogadoebas marTla unda waekiTxa,

radgan iq aris meoce saukunis da-

savluri sazogadoebis siRrmiseuli

analizi, misi momakvdinebeli mankie-

rebebis, rac Cvenc gvexeba. magali-

Tad, pirovnebis STanTqma sazogado-

ebisa Tu masis mier.

zviad qoriZe: da ratom ar waiki-

Txa?

naira gelaSvili: ar iyo moTxov-

nileba.

zviad qoriZe: imaze iyo moTxovni-

leba, rac xdeboda 88-Si, 89-Si?

naira gelaSvili: diax. rac sa-

zogadoebaSi xdeba, saerTod, imaze

yovelTvis aris moTxovnileba. an

yovelTvis damsaxurebulia. umize-

zo Sedegi ar arsebobs. me mgonia,

rom masebis marTva ver moxdeba, Tu

im masaSi saamiso mzadyofna ar aris.

da raki am wignSi saazrovno pasaJe-

bi Semodis, niSnavs avtoris winaswar

Seguebas imasTan, rom amas mkiTxveli

gamotovebs. iseve rogorc, Cvenma

qveyanam gamotova ganmanaTleblo-

ba, seriozuli mecnieruli analizis

nakadebi da a. S. erTma mkiTxvelma am

romans `arSemdgari ganmanaTlebloba

uwoda~.

zviad qoriZe: TumcaRa, dRes ukve

ganvlilia es 20 weli da iqneb, Sei-

cvala rame...

naira gelaSvili: ver getyviT. amas

ver vgrZnob. me SemiZlia, vilapa-

rako im mcirericxovan mkiTxvelze,

romelic gamomexmaura da Tavisi

STabeWdileba-mosazrebebi gamiziara,

danarCeni ar vici, ra xdeba. saerTod,

wigns rom wer, sibneleSi muSaob, ar

ici, sad midis Seni wigni, visze ra

zegavlenas axdens.

zviad qoriZe: ho, magram mwerlobac

xom is aris, rom maincdamainc is ar

gamoTqva, rac unda Sens mkiTxvels,

rac siamovnebs.

naira gelaSvili: ara, ra Tqma unda.

magram mwerloba aris gaziareba, Seni

TavisTvis xom ar wer. Tavis motyueba

iqneba, es rom Tqva. raRac tanjva ga-

werinebs, romelsac sxvagvarad veRar

erevi. da ginda es gaziarebuli iyos.

zviad qoriZe: im yofiT istorie-

bs mivubrundeT, romlebic am wign-

Sia asaxuli da romelic gadaitana

mTelma saxelmwifom da sazogado-

ebam. afxazeTi, mahmadiani mesxebis

problema, emigraciis problema, Si-

nagani gaucxoeba. es yvelaferi xom

gaviareT? mainc ucxo varT amisTvis?

mainc ar gvainteresebs?

naira gelaSvili: am 20 wlis ganma-

vlobaSi Cven ukuRmarTad viareT,

zedmetad gavicviTeT da daviRaleT.

erovnuli energia mTlianad gaflan-

ges politikosebma. da amitom aris

axla aseTi daRlis periodi. es daR-

la fizikuricaa, sulieric da inte-

leqtualuric.

zviad qoriZe: vin iRleba?

naira gelaSvili: xalxi. xalxi.

adamiani. axla aris daRlilobis da

SeiZleba, saukeTeso SemTxvevaSi, da-

fiqrebis epoqac. aviRoT, magaliTad,

iseTi problema, rogoric mahmadiani

mesxebia. am sakiTxis mimarT odnav

Seicvala sazogadoeba am 20 wlis gan-

mavlobaSi. vfiqrob, rom iseTi didi

agresia aRar aris, magram mainc aris

usazRvro gulgriloba da usurvi-

loba, rom es problema icode da, bo-

los da bolos, gaigo, an im xalxis

gulSi Caixedo. da es im xalxisgan,

romelic sakuTar Tavs qristianad

acxadebs. praqtikulad, es adamianebi

ar arian Sinaganad qristianebi. maT

TanagrZnoba ar uCndebaT am usasru-

lod datanjuli xalxis mimarT, ro-

melic dResac itanjeba, Tundac, am

Camosaxlebis da repatriaciis dros.

zviad qoriZe: religiac Seguebis

erTi formaa? var am religiaSi, am

formalur wyobaSi da mSvidad var,

wynarad var.

naira gelaSvili: ra Tqma unda, 97

ki ara, 20 % rom iyos namdvili qris-

tiani, es qveyana, xom sul sxvanairi

qveyana iqneboda?!

zviad qoriZe: da rogori?

`vfiqrob, rom iseTi

didi agresia aRar

aris, magram mainc aris

usazRvro gulgriloba

da usurviloba, rom

es problema icode

da, bolos da bolos,

gaigo, an im xalxis

gulSi Caixedo. da

es im xalxisgan,

romelic sakuTar Tavs

qristianad acxadebs.~

1988-1989foto: gogi c

agarel

i

interviu

cxeli Sokoladi 59

mas warmoSobs qristianoba. radgan

adamianis, pirovnebis mniSvneloba

aseT siRrmeSi da aseT simaRleze

sxvagan arsad dafuZnebula: RmerTi

adamiandeba da wamebiT kvdeba ada-

mianis gulisTvis. amiT adamiani da

misi miwieri cxovreba udides mniS-

vnelobas iZens. maSasadame, demokra-

tia umaRles eTosSi iRebs saTaves.

eTikuri sawyisis, eTikuri princi-

pebis gareSe araferi kargi da ke-

Tili arsad arasdros ar Seqmnila

da ar dakanonebula. da arc Seiqmne-

ba. CvenTan ki namdvili qristianoba

jer ar gaSlila, manamdec Zalian

Sesustebuli iyo. 70 wlis Semdeg ki

ucbad ifeTqa, magram es ar daeyrd-

no qristianul ganmanaTleblobas.

seriozuli wyveta moxda am Tval-

sazrisiT da is daeyrdno sabWoTa

aTeistur memkvidreobas.

zviad qoriZe: anu, am SemTxvevaSi,

raki aris qristianobis krizisi, Se-

sabamisad, aris demokratiis krizi-

sic?

naira gelaSvili: ra Tqma unda. ua-

misod ar iqneba.

zviad qoriZe: maSin ra sivrce gva-

qvs? sad vcxovrobT Cven?

naira gelaSvili: me maqvs SegrZ-

neba, rom es aris cecxlze moTux-

Tuxe ajafsandali da veRar gagigia,

Sig ra ingredientebia. Tanac moxda

TviTon lingvisturi velis iseTi ga-

cveTa, rom aranair naTqvams sico-

cxle da sizuste aRar gaaCnia. Tavis

droze merab mamardaSvili laparako-

bda sabWoTa enobriv velze, romel-

zedac azrovneba SeuZlebelia, rad-

gan es ena SexebaSi ar modis cocxal

sinamdvilesTan. da Cven es ena ki ar

ganvaaxleT, aramed gavagrZeleT: si-

cocxlis Camkvleli ena. magaliTad,

xelisuflebam rac unda Tqvas, ukve

mniSvneloba aRar aqvs imitom, rom

man ukve yvelaferi Tqva. ambobs da

TviTonve uaryofs. amitom misi ena

mokvda. magram aseve gaicviTa sazoga-

doebrivi metyvelebac. rodemde Sei-

Zleba, erTi da igive ilaparako? es

ar aris arc mecnieruli analizis ena,

arc SemoqmedebiTi azrovnebis an pi-

rovnuli gabedulebis ena. amas daeSe-

na axali ritorika, SemoiWra amerika-

nizmebi Tu sxva gaurkvevli nakadebi,

arasamTavrobo seqtoris ena. es ena

ki Zalian xSirad hgavs axali komka-

vSiris enas, radgan igive koleqtive-

bis enaa, daclili pirovnulobisa da

ubralo guliTadobisagan. Cven vi-

myofebiT im sivrceSi, sadac araferi

deklarirebuli ar namdvilobs. arc

demokratia, arc qristianoba.

zviad qoriZe: ratom iRebs am yve-

lafers sazogadoeba? Tqven xatavT

lamis apokalifsur viTarebas, sadac

foto: irina a

bJandaZe

foto: gogi c

agarel

iinterviu

naira gelaSvili: sxvanairi.

zviad qoriZe: ranairi?

naira gelaSvili: ai, axla mivediT

sxva, umniSvnelovanes problemas-

Tan. ratom ver vaSenebT Cven de-

mokratiul qveyanas? Tomas manis

cnobili, klasikuri gamonaTqvamis

Tanaxmad, demokratia es aris da-

savleTis qristianuli kulturis

politikuri gamoxatuleba. is qris-

tianobam Seqmna. marTalia, Semdeg

es liberaluri demokratia Sorde-

ba Tavis warmomqnel wiaRs da bevr

rameSi upirispirdeba kidec. magram

60 cxeli Sokoladi

Zalian rTuli da gamouvali, Caketi-

li wrea. ratom ar Cndeba protesti?

naira gelaSvili: protesti aris

calkeul adamianebSi, SeiZleba,

calkeul socialur jgufebSi, magram

am protestis gamoxatvis gabeduleba

aRar aris. aRarc Zala da aRarc ad-

gili. SeiZleba ubralo adamiani ver

poulobs civilur sityvebs da misi

gamonaTqvamebi primitiulia, magram

Tavisi sulis siRrmidan is zustad

grZnobs sinamdvilis mTel saSine-

lebas da siyalbes. zustad grZnobs

xifaTebs.

ra aris evropuli civilizaciisa

da saxelmwifos erT-erTi niSani? is,

rom mecnierul safuZvelze dgas da

viTardeba, aqvs aseve TviTrefleq-

siisa da TviTkritikis dauSreteli

unari. es aris dasavleTis Zalian

didi Zala. kacobriobam Seabija Rrma

krizisis epoqaSi, magram Tu raime iZ-

leva imis imeds, rom dasavleTi am

kriziss daZlevs, es aris amouwuravi

energia da gabeduleba sakuTari Ta-

vis kritikuli analizisTvis. Tu Cven

viciT, ra xdeba dasavleTSi cudi,

viciT maTgan, maTi filmebidan, maTi

wignebidan. Cven ara gvaqvs TviTre-

fleqsiis, sakuTari Tavis kritikuli

analizis aseTi moTxovnileba da ga-

beduleba.

zviad qoriZe: erTi ucnauri kiTxva

movida Cveni mayureblisgan: `saubris

dros vaxseneT qarTuli konformizmi

da ras niSnavs es? erovnul Tavise-

burebebTan xom ar gvaqvs saqme Tqveni

azriT?~

naira gelaSvili: CvenTvis es kon-

formizmi Zalian damaxasiaTebeli

Cans. SeiZleba, es iyos sabWoTa men-

talobis memkvidreoba... uwyinrad

ki JRers, magram konformizmis ukan

dgas sisxli, adamianTa wameba, ube-

durebebi. nebismieri xelisufleba

Zaladobas axorcielebs swored am

masobrivi konformizmis saSualebiT,

masze dayrdnobiT.

_ `konformis~ gviandeli laTi-

nuri sityvaa, romelic niSnavs er-

Tformianobas, msgavss. socialur

mecnierebebSi gulisxmoben mims-

gavsebas, misadagebas, daTanxmebas

sayovelTaod dadgenil normebze.

yvelafris erT formaSi moqcevas.

e.i. me Cems individualur pozicia-

ze uars vambob da orientirebuli

var im azrebze da im poziciaze, rac

aris damaxasiaTebeli sazogadoe-

bis Zalian didi nawilisaTvis. es

ar SeiZleba, yovelTvis uaryofiTi

iyos. me, magaliTad, viziareb (iseve,

rogorc Tqven) sayovelTao normebs

zrdilobis sferoSi, stumarTmoyva-

reobisa Tu humanurobis sfero-

Si. magram rodesac me ar viziareb

Sinaganad am Tu im gabatonebul da

damkvidrebul mosazrebas, magram

amas SiSiT xmamaRla ver vambob da

Tavi ise miWiravs, viTom viziareb, es

aris konformizmis erTi saxe. arse-

bobs sxva saxec: rodesac me veqce-

vi sazogadoebis gavlenis qveS da

Sinaganad viReb mis stereotipebs.

konformizms xels uwyobs sazoga-

doebrivi diqtatis, socialuri cen-

zuris, fsiqologiuri teroris da

realuri safrTxis arseboba, rom

Seni individualuri poziciis gamo

raRaca formiT daisjebi. Tundac

imiT daisjebi, rom marto darCebi.

da sxvaTa msgavsad Tu imetyveleb

_ raRac formiT dajildovdebi. ami-

tom adamianebi laparakoben an xeli-

suflebis, an, vTqvaT, liberalizmis,

an eklesiis ideologiur normebTan

misadagebiT. yvela am sferodan mo-

dis diqtati. amave dros yvela am

sferoSi SeiZleba Semosavlis wyaro

an raRac daculoba ipovo, Tuki misi

mxardamWeri gaxdebi. mxardamWerTa

umetesoba konformistia. pirvel

rigSi, xelisuflebis ideologebad

qceuli Cveni inteleqtualebi. Za-

lian prozaulia es yvelaferi.

zviad qoriZe: SeiZleba vTqvaT, rom

es aris kargi safuZveli totalita-

rizmisaTvis?

naira gelaSvili: ra Tqma unda. ma-

`me ar Sevswrebivar, aseT

duxWir, aseT Ratak da aseT

mwir saqarTvelos, amden

sasowarkveTil adamians, me

ar Sevswrebivar SimSiliT,

siciviT, uwamlobiTa da

usaxlkarobiT gamowveul

sikvdilebs. axla es aris,

rac saSvels ar maZlevs

da Teoriul sakiTxebze

laparakis xaliss

mikargavs~.

1991-1992

foto: gogi c

agarel

i

interviu

foto: gogi c

agarel

i

cxeli Sokoladi 61

gram, saerTod, minda giTxraT: Cven

iseT sinamdvileSi amovyaviT Tavi,

rom msgavs problemebze laparaks

naklebi azri aqvs. me, yovel SemTxve-

vaSi, amis ganwyoba damekarga. rode-

sac xalxis mTavar problemad isev

fizikuri gadarCena iqceva, rodesac

aTasobiT adamianma aRar icis bavSvs

ra aWamos da yoveli dRis gaTeneba

Tavzars scems, rodesac qveyanaSi Si-

mSili TareSobs da xalxi sikvdils

uyurebs TvalebSi, _ pirvel rigSi

es aris gadasaWreli _ adamianis,

bavSvis daxsna SimSilisa da sikvdi-

lisagan, usaxlkarobisa da damcire-

bisagan. problemebis 70-80% aqedan

gamomdinareobs.

zviad qoriZe: axla gismenT da miCn-

deba kiTxva _ xom ar vexebiT iseT Te-

mas, romelic Zalian safrTxiloa, an

Zalian xom ar vamZafrebT?

naira gelaSvili: me ara maqvs ima-

ze ufro mZafrad saubris survili,

vidre sinamdvilea. me ar Sevswre-

bivar, aseT duxWir, aseT Ratak da

aseT mwir saqarTvelos, amden saso-

warkveTil adamians, me ar Sevswrebi-

var SimSiliT, siciviT, uwamlobiTa

da usaxlkarobiT gamowveul sikvdi-

lebs. axla es aris, rac saSvels ar

maZlevs, rac uwyvet travmas mayenebs

da Teoriul sakiTxebze laparakis

xaliss mikargavs. ase arian sxvebic,

uamravi adamiani, vinc dedaqalaqis

Tbil ofisebSi, klubebsa Tu redaq-

ciebSi inkafsulacias ar axdens da

qveyanas mTlianad aRiqvams: mTasa da

bars, qalaqebs da soflebs, sadac

aseTi sivalalea.

zviad qoriZe: magram am sxva raRa-

cebzec Tu ar vilaparakeT, maT So-

ris, SimSilzec, ar gamova, albaT.

naira gelaSvili: ra Tqma unda, ar

gamova, magram rodesac dReSi ram-

denime maTxovari modis Cems karTan,

ukve panikaSi var, ar SemiZlia amdens

davexmaro da miCndeba ukve saSineli

Sinagani bzari, wriali. dRes, dRes,

am wuTSi ra vqnaT, riTi vuSveloT

bavSvs, romelsac sciva da Sia da tki-

vili tanjavs? iseTi Semzaravi cxo-

vrebebi gaCnda Cvens garSemo, rom

mogiyveT, mxatvruli gamonagoni ge-

gonebaT..

zviad qoriZe: amas isic xom xedavs,

vinc marTavs?

naira gelaSvili: xelisuflebas

Cvenze meti informacia aqvs, magram

Zalaufleba iwyebs adamianis garda-

qmnas, Zarcvas adamianuri Tvisebe-

bisagan. lmobierebisagan, TanagrZno-

bisagan. ratom aris makontrolebeli

organoebi saWiro? ratom aris opo-

zicia saWiro? ratom aris xelisu-

flebis gayofa saWiro? kacobrioba

saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi akvirdebo-

da da icis, rom Zalaufleba gonebas

akargvinebs adamians. Zalian cota

vinmea dazRveuli amisgan.

zviad qoriZe: da iqneb, xelisufle-

bas sworedac siamovnebs is, rom Si-

mSilisgan sasowarkveTili adamiani

bevr daTmobaze midis?

naira gelaSvili: siRatakis instru-

mentalizacia xdeba. es cnobili da

gamocdili meTodia. gaRatakebuli

adamianis marTva advilia garkveul

zRvramde.

da kidev is mawuxebs, rom Cvens

gaWirvebul adamianebs TviTmobili-

zaciis unari naklebad aqvT ganviTa-

rebuli. meore msoflio omis dros,

Tqvenc ginaxavT is kadrebi, iseTi

dangreuli iyo germania, rom iqidan

Tu raime aRdgeboda kidev, ver dai-

jerebdiT... nangrevebiT iyo savse

berlini, drezdeni, mTeli qalaqe-

bi. da omidan sul cota xnis Semdeg,

SeiZleba 20 dRis Semdeg, erTi Tvis

Semdeg, gaCnda qalebis ugrZesi rige-

bi, romlebic erTmaneTs gadascemd-

nen qvebs, armaturebs. maT gawmindes

nangrevebisgan mTeli qalaqebi. es,

swrafi mobilizaciis Tviseba, Cven ar

gvaqvs.

zviad qoriZe: ratom ar gvaqvs?

naira gelaSvili: me vfiqrob, sa-

bWoTa cxovrebis wesma iniciativa,

Sromis SemoqmedebiTi fantazia Cakla

adamianSi.

zviad qoriZe: hitleric xom aseve

klavda iniciativas germaniaSi?

7 noemberi 2007

protesti aris

calkeul adamianebSi,

SeiZleba calkeul

socialur jgufebSi,

magram am protestis

gamoxatvis

gabeduleba aRar

aris. aRarc Zala da

aRarc adgili.

naira gelaSvili: cota xans iyo sa-

TaveSi, swrafad damarcxda. sxvaTa

Soris, germaneli xalxi imitom aris

tragikuli xalxi, rom msoflio swa-

vlobs misi katastrofis magaliTze,

ra saSinelebaa nacizmi, faSizmi, agre-

siuli nacionalizmi... es grandiozu-

li magaliTi rom ar gqondes, aseTi

Zlieri argumentebic ar geqneboda am

ukuRmarTobebis sawinaaRmdegod.

zviad qoriZe: magram es adamiane-

bi, xom, nangrevebis gatanamde, 10-12

wliT adre, am Semgueblobis pirobe-

bSi cxovrobdnen?

naira gelaSvili: ki, cxovrobdnen.

Tavbru daaxvia am kacma, hqonda ra-

Rac demonuri, adamianTa uaryofi-

Ti energia gamoaTavisufla... magram

amaze Semdeg daiwera fsiqologiuri

gamokvlevebi, rogor xdeba, rom ada-

miani aris ganaTlebulic, normalu-

ric, mere modis hitleri da es aqam-

de normaluri adamiani aRtacebisgan

ixrCoba da xmas aZlevs. amas logiku-

ri axsna ara aqvs. es Cven gamovcadeT

zviadizmis magaliTze, riTac daiwyo

am qveynis ngreva. agresiuli bela-

dis, tiranis, erTpirovnuli mmar-

Tvelis moTxovnileba modis qvec-

nobieridan. amas Zalian Rrma Zirebi

aqvs. da zviadizmi grZeldeba.

zviad qoriZe: ramdenad efeqturi

iqneba, Zalian xSirad elaparako im

interviu

62 cxeli Sokoladi

sazogadoebas, romlis qvecnobieric

stimuls aZlevs ganusazRvrel Za-

lauflebas. ufro metad xom ar ga-

aRizianeb, an iqneb piriqiT _ saWiro

iyos ufro meti SeZaxili.

naira gelaSvili: formasac gaaCnia.

mTeli ubedureba isaa, rom adamiani

lanZRviT ukeTesi ar xdeba, piriqiT.

zviad qoriZe: aq ar vsaubrobT lan-

ZRvaze. magaliTad, Tundac, imave

problemebze, rac weRan CamovTva-

leT, da rac Tqvens romanSic aris

aRwerili, iqneb meti unda Tqmuliyo

Tavis droze, 89-90-91-Si? SeiZleba,

ar yofiliyo sazogadoebis aseTi Sem-

guebloba. Tu es gardauvali iyo?

naira gelaSvili: iciT ra aris? ra

Tqma unda, raRac SesaZleblobebi

iyo, magram iseTnairad moxda, rom

rogorc ki arenaze gamoCndnen axa-

li politikuri Zalebi, maT swrafad

daiqvemdebares masobrivi informa-

ciis saSualebebi da ukve iseT dones

miaRwia am agresiuli masis aRviraxs-

nilobam, rom fizikurad saSiSi gaxda

masTan dapirispireba. da daucveli

aRmoCnda adamiani. komunisturi xe-

lisuflebis bolo wlebSi ukve ada-

mianebs aRar icavda da veRar icavda,

amoqmedebul masas marTavda erTi-

ori beladi.

zviad qoriZe: da es, beladis mo-

Txovnileba, darCa?

naira gelaSvili: ki, masas yovel-

Tvis aqvs beladis moTxovnileba _

rom erTma adamianma erTpirovnulad

marTos da misi problemebi gadaWras.

es aris sabWoTa gamocdileba _ ge-

Sinia, Tu sinamdvilis winaSe marto

rCebi. sxvaTa Soris, aravin ar cdi-

lobs am ukanaskneli 20 wlis istoria

obieqturad gaaanalizos da faqte-

bis doneze daweros. axlac pirvel

arxze periodulad gadis es istoria

da maSindel periods afaseben is

adamianebi, romlebic TviTon iyvnen

aqtorebi. rogor SeiZleba maTi azri

iyos obieqturi? da Tu vinme isto-

rikosi gamodis, axlac ki eSinia, rom

xmamaRla Tqvas, realurad ra xdebo-

da 88, 89, 90 wlebSi.

fotoebi: daTo r

ostomaSvil

i

interviu

cxeli Sokoladi 63

piradi sivrce, sivrceTa Soris erT-erTi yvelaze mniS-

vnelovania.

imanuel kantis samuSao oTaxis fanjrebi, kenigsbergis

cixis erTaderT sarkmels uyurebda, romlidanac tusaRebi

didi cnobismoyvareobiT aTvalierebdnen kantis kabinets,

mis `wmindaTa wmindas~. sul male tusaRebis erTaderTi

sarkmeli, kantis ̀ kategoriuli imperativiT~, qalaqis TviT-

marTvelobisadmi gagzavnili werilis safuZvelze amoiqo-

la. satusaRos xsenebuli sarkmeli didi germaneli agnos-

tikosis pirad sivrces arRvevda. zaxer mazoxi piriqiT, sa-

kuTari bednierebisa da komfortis zonad _ cixes miiCnevda.

joakino rosini did wveulebebs marTavda da xalxmravloba

uyvarda, radgan am dros igi ufro meti JiniTa da mondo-

mebiT werda Tavis operebs. rihard vagners uTvalavi bere-

ti hqonda Tavis garderobSi, amdenive xalaTi da asze meti

faCuCi, anu saxlis Custeuli. galaktioni cota siyvaruls

da Rer papiross iTxovda, Tumca sxvadasxva ordenebisadmic

ar yofila gulgrili, platons xeivanSi uyvarda seirnoba,

baraTaSvils _ `oblad siaruli~, stalins _ `gafrindi Savo

mercxalo~, ilias _ wveulebebi, akakis _ banqo da sastum-

roebi. maTi identifikaciebi da piradi sivrceebi ganuyofe-

lia maTive Semoqmedebisa da cxovrebisagan.

`cxeli Sokoladi~ gTavazobT proeqts, sadac Cveni re-

spondentebi sakuTar sivrceze da interesebze saubroben,

yovelgvari anturaJisa da profesiuli `SeniRbvebis~ gar-

eSe.

rati amaRlobeli

piradi sivrce

specproeqti

avtori: nino gogua

foto: sergi barisaSvili

64 cxeli Sokoladi

cxeli Sokoladi 65

yvelaze xSirad kargi musikis mos-

mena mindeba. roca kargi musikosebi

Camodian da saintereso raRac xdeba,

esaa Cemi sulieri sazrdo. TbilisSi

arcerTi jaz-festivali ar gamicde-

nia. rasakvirvelia, baTumSi plasido

domingos koncertzec viyavi. sxva

dros jansuR kaxiZis saxelobis musi-

kalur centrSi simfoniuri musikis

koncertebze da konservatoriaSi

davdivar.

saRamos televizorTan arasodes

vatareb _ qarTuli arxebis yurebisas

klaustrofobia mewyeba. televizia

gaxda samomxmareblo da ara Semoq-

medebiTi media. tok-Souebze lapara-

kic zedmetia _ es Zalian briyvuli

da zedapiruli produqtia. ekra-

niT sulier sazrdos ver miiReb.

amitom vcdilob, Cem garSemo yvelas

SevuSalo xeli televiziis yurebaSi.

minda CaTvalon, rom saRamos ekranTan

gatarebuli saaTebi, esaa maTi sikvdi-

lis saaTebi. televizia Cveni mteria.

masSi SemoqmedebiTi aRaraferia.

xSirad sxva reJisorebis dadgmul

speqtaklebze davdivar. saerTod,

kargi mayurebeli var, Zalian kargi

aRqmis unariT.

kinoc miyvars. bolos crash vnaxe

da Zalian momewona. axal filmebs,

ZiriTadad, internetiT vyidulob.

makis `aiTun“_ i da kargi teqnikuri

SesaZleblobebi maqvs imisTvis, rom

films gemrielad vuyuro. `avataric~

Zalian momewona, gasarTobi da dasas-

venebeli filmia.

visveneb stadionzec, fexburTis

yurebisas. axali mwvrTnelis daniSn-

vis Semdeg, saqarTvelos nakrebs Za-

lian vgulSematkivrob. Tan jerjero-

biT waugebel serias TamaSoben. wignis

kiTxva CemTvis profesiis nawili da

muSaoba ufroa, vidre garToba.

ver verTobi restornebSi, arada

stumrebis gamo xSirad mixdeba sia-

ruli. Tamadobac miwevs, rac CemTvis

sruliad araorganulia. movaleo-

bis grZnobis gamo qarTul stumar-

maspinZlobas vwev. aseT SemTxvevebSi

drois kargvis gancda miqmnis diskom-

forts. qeifs mirCevnia, saxlSi viyo.

samagierod, Zalian miyvars kaf-

eebi. magaliTad, kafe `ar daidar-

do“, evropis saxlis kafe, `purpuri“

`Tbilisi meriotis“ kafe. am adgileb-

Si iseT megobrebTan erTad davdivar,

visTanac Zalian faqiz Temebze miwevs

saubari. magaliTad, laSa buRaZesTan,

rati amaRlobelTan, megobar msaxio-

bebTan. sasaubro Tema marto Teatri

araa, aramed literatura, zogadi

Temebi.

Cems fotoalbomSi mravali cnobili

adamiani SegxvdebaT. vmegobrob xose

karerasTan, plasido domingosTan...

maT saqarTveloSi Camosvlamdec

vicnobdi. ratomRac, ise xdeba, rom

yvelaze axlobel adamianebTan ar

maqvs fotoebi gadaRebuli, gamoCe-

nil adamianebTan ki sul viReb. roca

xedav, rom domingo gverdiT gyavs,

bunebrivia, cdilob, gadaiRo. mere

vxumrob xolme _ ai, Cemi megobrebi!

ratomac ara? vmegobrobT.

Zalian sainteresoa prezidentTan

megobroba. ramdenjerme Sevxvedril-

var, davupatiJebivar. politikosebi

did informacias floben. amis gamo

gansxvavebuli Sexedulebebi aqvT sx-

vadasxva sakiTxze. es informacia Cven

ar gvaqvs, amitom analizisTvis maT

ufro meti saSualeba aqvT.

masTan seriozul Temebze misau-

bria. magaliTad, quTaisisa da baTu-

mis Teatrebis ganviTarebaze. skamiT

dawyebuli, ganaTebiT damTavrebuli,

masTan vaTanxmebdi xolme imitom, rom

Zalian ainteresebs arqiteqtura da

mSeneblobebi. bolos baTumSi, plasi-

do domingos koncertis Semdeg vnaxe.

imedi maqvs, rom Cveni intensiuri

urTierToba operis Teatris gaxnis

Semdeg isev ganaxldeba.

Zalian axlo megobroba maqvs gigi

ugulavasTan. Zalian exmareba operis

Teatrs da saqmiani urTierTobis gar-

da, piradi nacnobobac makavSirebs.

es urTierTobebi Zalian mniS-

vnelovania, magram dasvenebas yvelaze

metad mainc sazRvargareT vaxerxeb.

germaniis patara qalaq bairoiTSi yov-

el wels vagneris operebis festivali

imarTeba. aq gatarebuli 10 dRe mTel

wels myofnis. esaa sulieri sanato-

riumi, sadac yvelas ar SeuZlia mox-

vedra. es meqaa musikis moyvarulebi-

sTvis, romlis bileTebis SesaZenad

xalxs 7 weli uwevs rigSi dgoma. war-

moidgineT, likanSi rom waxvideT da

iqve iyos udidesi safestivalo cen-

tri. agvistoSi aq yvela imisTvis Camo-

dis, rom diliT siwynareSi, simwvaneSi,

sufTa amindze iseirnos da saRamos am

genialur warmodgenebs daeswros. me

davumegobrdi katerina vagners, vagne-

ris SvilTaSvils, romelic am Teatrs

xelmZRvanelobs. TviTon Teatri vag-

neris aSenebulia. esaa adgili, sa-

dac namdvilad visveneb da vimuxtebi,

momaval wlamde ki sixaruliT vicdi

xolme, rom isev Cavide. albaT, yvelam

unda monaxos aseTi adgili.

dasvenebisas da garTobisas fasebs

ar vaqcev yuradRebas.

ZviradRirebuli da xarisxiani sa-

smelebi miyvars _ tekila da koniani.

Tanac bevri ar gWirdeba imisTvis, rom

karg xasiaTze dagayenos.

qarTul Rvinosac siamovnebiT vs-

vam, Tu Zalian Zvirfasia. dasvenebis

dros, zogjer Zalian msiamovnebs si-

gara, miuxedavad imisa, rom ar vewevi.

mixaria, rom aWaraSi Cvenc daviwyeT

sigarebis warmoeba. ra Tqma unda,

kuburs ar sjobia, magram danarCeni

qveynebis produqts ar Camouvardeba.

axla Zalian rTuli periodi maqvs _

operaSi remontia, rusTavelis da ope-

ris TeatrebSi speqtaklebs vdgam, gas-

trolebisTvis vemzadebiT. aseT dros

sityva dasvenebac ki Cemi mteria. am

saqmeebs rom movrCebi da dasvenebis

dro meqneba, erTi kvira unda viZino,

rom mere isev samuSaos Sevudge.

specproeqti

daviT sayvareliZe

66 cxeli Sokoladi

istoriaspecproeqti

cxeli Sokoladi 67

erTaderTi periodi, roca mTe-

li Tavisufali dro sakuTar Tavs

mivuZRveni, pirveli orsulobi-

sas iyo. im dros televiziaSi ar

vmuSaobdi, JurnalisTvis peri-

odulad vwerdi da Tavisufal

dros vakeTebdi yvelafers, rac

mindoda: davdiodi operaSi, kinos

saxlSi, vuyurebdi karg filmebs,

vkiTxulobdi. es harmonia 7 Tves

gagrZelda.

axla Tavisufali dro iSviaTad

maqvs. rTulia, 2 patara bavSviT

sadme didi xniT wasvlaze ifiqro.

saukeTeso dasveneba megobrebTan

erTad romelime sayvarel adgilas

wasvlaa. guSinac `evropis saxlSi~

viyaviT. yvelaferi momwons _ in-

terieri, dizaini. SemiZlia marto

viyo, rame wavikiTxo _ wigni, an Ju-

rnali. adre vfiqrobdi, rom qar-

Tuli samzareulo ar miyvarda. am

adgilas aRmovaCine, rom piriqiT

_ tradiciuli restornis garemos

gareSe, evropul sivrceSic Sesa-

Zlebelia evropulad momzadebuli

qarTuli saWmlis Wama. am restor-

nis koncefciac Zalian momwons.

civiluri sivrcea imisTvis, rom

daisveno.

ar momwons qarTuli restornebi.

es garemo CemTvis ucxoa. Tavs iq

vgrZnob kargad, sadac adamianebi

Cumad saubroben, musikac Cumia, sa-

dac ara mxolod saWmelad, aramed

wasakiTxadac SeiZleba mixvide, an

kompiuteriT imuSavo. me mgoni,

`literaturulma kafem~ danerga

amis kultura, sadac aseve Zalian

xSirad davdivar.

Tovli ar miyvars, mxolod sami

dRiT SemiZlia, gavuZlo. amitom

zamTris kurortebze ar davdivar.

bevrad mirCevnia zafxuli da erTi

suli maqvs, sanam zRvaze Caval

xolme.

barselonaSi mivxvdi, rom Sav zR-

vaSi curva ufro msiamovnebs. bo-

los kvariaTSi Tu gonioSi, mTaSi

aRmovaCineT sastumro, sadac am

zafxulis gatarebas vapirebT.

tabaxmelaSi didi xania erT saxls

vqiraobT uCveulod didi aivniT.

am aivanze gabmuli hamaki da me Sig-

niT, wigniT xelSi, simSvide, haeri

_ es saukeTeso dasvenebaa.

adamianebis 90%-s gantvirTvaSi

Sopingi exmareba da maT ricxvSi

Sevdivar mec. Cems qmars gansa-

kuTrebiT uyvars xolme am Temaze

qiliki. miyvars lamazi nivTebi, bi-

JuteriiT dawyebuli, tansacmliT

damTavrebuli.

ufro sazRvargareT Sopingi mi-

yvars. aqac maqvs ramdenime sayva-

reli adgili. bolo dros onlain

Sopingze gadavedi. Tu Zalian daR-

lili var, virtualurad varCev

xolme tansacmels, Tanac, gamowera

riski aRaraa, rogorc adre iyo.

zogadad, briliantebi da be-

wveuli ar miyvars. maRizianebs

qurqebis es saerTo tendencia, rac

dRes Tbilisis quCebs aqvs mode-

buli.

brendebze problema ar maqvs.

uzarmazari Tanxis gadaxda raime

stilSi uazrobad mimaCnia.

erTi periodi vambobdi, saxlSi

saloni maqvs gaxsnili-meTqi. kvira-

Si erTi_orjer mainc gvstumroben

megobrebi. Rvinis da Cais smis

tradicia gvaqvs. me cnobili cudi

kulinari var da zustad ician, rom

CemTan mxolod Cais Tu daleven.

bolo dros wiTeli Rvino Semi-

yvarda. sasmelebisadmi yovelTvis

aramegobruli viyavi, magram Cems

mamamTils aqvs wiTeli Rvino, ro-

melic Zalian momwons da sul Tan

damaqvs, sadac mivdivar. sxva Rvi-

nos iSviaTad vsinjav.

myavs didi xnis megobrebi, rom-

lebic ojaxis wevrebiviT arian.

aseTi adamainebi SeiZleba erTi

Tve ar vnaxo, magram Zalian mniS-

vnelovani xalxia CemTvis. ZiriTa-

dad, Cemi megobrebi Cemi Tanamoaz-

reebi arian. araa aucilebeli, rom

erTmaneTs yvelaferSi veTanxme-

bodeT, magram saerTo Rirebule-

bebi unda gvqondes. miyvars roca

CemTan modian gigi TevzaZes, laSa

buRaZe, bakur sulakaur saubari.

xSirad vstumrob bakursac.

azrTa gansxvavebulobis gamo me-

gobrebi raRac etapze damikargavs,

magram isini TviTon wasulan, me

amis iniciatori arasdros vyofil-

var. problema isaa, rom rogorc

ki sakuTar azrs gamoTqvam, ar

uSveben, rom adamiani xar da Seni

kritikuli damokidebuleba gaqvs.

vfiqrob, rom yvelaze cudia, roca

adamiani sakuTari idea fiqsebis

tyveobaSi xvdeba.

magaliTad, momyavs xolme Cemi da

ninia kakabaZis megobroba. xSirad

vkamaTobT, magram Cemi uaxloesi

adamiania.

televizorTan `eqimi hausis~ ax-

alma sezonma damabruna. axali am-

bebis yurebiTac visveneb, magram

Tu rame ar xdeba, SeiZleba saer-

Tod arc CavrTo.

axla gancda mrCeba, rom in-

teleqtualuri elita, romelic

erT muWSi SegiZlia moaqcio, Seni

nacnobebis wre SeiZleba iyos.

zogjer mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom

maT SeuZliaT cvlilebebis pro-

vocireba, Tu saTanado moments

sworad SearCeven. Tu amas eqneba

xelisuflebis mxardaWera, SeiZle-

ba raRac Zireuli cvlilebebis

gatareba. zogjer ki meCveneba, rom

es elita marginalizebulia. maTi

miswrafebebi sxvaa da zogadad

xalxisa _ sxva. sazogadoebis did

nawilSi fsevdoreligiuri, fsev-

dopatriotuli ganwyobaa.

Cems TanamoazreebTan erTad

vcdilob gavakeTo is, rac mwams.

vfiqrob, rom adamianebi bevrs

unda akeTebdnen imisTvis, risic

sjeraT. me es gza avirCie. SeiZleba,

cotas vakeTeb, magram vcdilob.

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eka kvesitaZe

68 cxeli Sokoladi

specproeqti

cxeli Sokoladi 69

Cems cxovrebaSi sxvisTvis sain-

tereso bevri araferia. Tavisu-

fali dro, praqtikulad, ar maqvs.

vmuSaob sam adgilas. amitom CemT-

vis Tavisufali dro aris wuTebi,

romelsac vparav samsaxurebriv

movaleobebs. Tumca, Sromahol-

iki ar var. vSromob imisTvis, rom

vicxovro da ara _ piriqiT.

axla Tavisufali dro rom

mqondes, gudaurSi, Cemi mego-

bris saxlSi wavidodiT. manqana

gamovcvale da siarulic meimedeba.

bavSvebi gaerTobodnen, me haers

gamovicvlidi da gavxalisdebodi.

yoveldRiurobis konteqstisgan Ta-

vis amogdeba dasvenebaa.

restoranSi wasvla sruliad ba-

naluri ramea, magram usiamovno su-

lac ara. xSirad bavSvebi gvTxoven

xolme da vcdilobT, sxvadasxva

adgilas viaroT. magram axla axali

saxlisTvis gankuTvnili xarjebis

gamo, amas ufro iSviaTad vaxerxebT.

fasebi CemTvis yovelTvis mniS-

vnelovania. ubralod, fass usad-

ageb cnobismoyvareobasac. magali-

Tad, `evropis saxlSi~ araa dabali

fasebi. magram wavediT da raRace-

bi gavsinjeT. maT Soris, Semwvari

elarji. samzareuloSi Cndeba axali

mimarTuleba _ tradiciuli qarTu-

li kerZebis evropulad `moqceva~.

gadaWarbebis gareSe, CemTvis erTi

siamovnebaa SvilebTan erTad kino-

Si wasvla. saxlSi Tu guls awyale-

ben, gareT Zalian gansxvavebulebi

arian. Zalian mwyins, rom iSviaTia

sabavSvo filmebi. TveSi erTxel Tu

gamoCnda multfilmi, kargia. `ami-

ranSi~ da `rusTavelSi~ davdivarT.

am Cvenebebs mosdevs xolme ganxilva

_ ZiriTadad, ufros SvilTan. Tve-

Si orjer meuRlesTan erTad var

xolme kinodarbazSi. bolo Tveebia,

erToblivi Sopingi gaxda dasvenebis

erTgvari forma.

`feisbukSi~ mimdis Tavisufali

drois didi nawili. Tumca, am bolo

daviT paiWaZedros meCveneba, rom ganelda is vne-

ba, rac axlda am socialuri qselis

moxmarebas.

bolo dros mec ufro azizi gavx-

di megobrebis SerCevaSi. megobrebi

myavs da isini samsaxurs ar ukav-

Sirdebian. vxvdebi xolme socialur

sivrceSi gacnobil axal Tanamoaz-

reebsac. bolo aseTi Sexvedra Za-

lian saintereso iyo. sermoestima-

guani _ rogorc romaelebi amboben,

metyveleba aris sulis xati da me-

tyvelebiT Sen xvdebi, vinaa is.

Zalian miyvars sufra. erTi suli

maqvs, Cemi uaxloesi megobrebi axal

saxlSi davpatiJo, magram qeifi,

tradiciuli gagebiT, aRar momwons.

am formebma CemTvis dakarga mimzid-

veloba. 93-94 wlebSi miTxres, _ Sen-

gan kargi fasiani Tamada dadgebao.

maSin es sicilad ar meyo, magram

SemoTavazeba dRemde maxsovs. axla

sadRegrZelos Tqma aRar SemiZlia.

tradiciuli qarTuli sufris for-

mas veRar viReb Tavisi dastruq-

turebuli sadRegrZeloebiT. dRes

sufra kliSeebad iqca. Tematika

cnobilia, Sesrulebac cnobilia,

axals verafers ver ityvi, SeiZleba

paTosi daatano. sufra CemTvis, ro-

gorc Zveli romaelebisTvis, aris

Sexvedrebis da musaifis adgili.

mTavari dasveneba _ Svebuleba _

wmindaTawmindaa. SarSan birTvisSi,

Cvens agarakze gavatare es dro.

araCveulebrivi adgilia _ haeri

arsad rom ar iZvrodes, mze rom

zenitSi iyos, aivanze maqvs erTi

adgili, sadac sul uberavs. Tu

ginda, dajeqi da cas uyure, ginda

CaTvlime, ginda ifiqre, esaa CemT-

vis dasveneba _ mosveneba, roca ar

vinZrevi. vzivar, vkiTxulob, vWam,

mZinavs. me ar mwyindeba.

specifikuri sixarulebi moaqvs

CemTvis teqstebs. ar aqvs mniSvn-

eloba, vin wers maT. saerTod, Za-

lian kargi biblioTeka maqvs _ 2000-

mde wigni _ imis Sedegad, rom wignis

maRaziebSi siaruli Cemi dasvenebis

erT-erTi yvelaze efeqturi saSu-

alebaa. yovelTvis ver vkiTxulob

axalSeZenil wignebs, magram mainc

vyidulob. kviraSi erTi wignis siC-

qariT vcxovrob. ZiriTadad, ru-

sulad vkiTxulob, magram rusi av-

torebi ar mainteresebs. vyidulob

sxva avtorebs, rusulad naTargmns.

rusul Tanamedrove literaturasa

da mecnierebaze maRali azris ar

var.

axla vkiTxulob profesiul

wignebs da aleqsandr louens, ro-

melic bioenergetikis erT-erTi

mimarTulebis Semqmnelia. aRwerili

aqvs Teoria, rogor SeiZleba, kun-

Tebze manipulaciam zemoqmedeba

iqonios fsiqikaze da gvTavazobs

varjiSebis kompleqss. es araa io-

gasaviT rTuli varjiSebi, ami-

tom, albaT, gamoviyeneb. SeiZleba,

gamxneveba gWirdebodes studiaSi

Sesvlis win.

vkiTxulob `liberals~, `tabu-

las~, internet saitebs. aseve, me-

gobrebis da kolegebis nawerebs.

ar vici, ra ufro mTavaria _ iden-

toba, rogor uyureb Sens Tavs, Tu

is, rogor aRgiqvamen sxvebi. CemT-

vis arsebiTia is, Tavs rad miviCnev.

magram Seguebuli var, rom es aras-

dros ar daemTxveva sxvebis azrs

Cemze. sxvebisTvis Cemi gadacemebic

ki sruliad sxva gamodis xolme, vi-

dre me Cavifiqre.

mimaCnia, rom arian Zalian gam-

Wriaxi adamianebi, romelTac raime

jgufSi ar movaqcevdi. maT aqvT wig-

niereba da SeuZliaT damajereblad,

gulwrfelad imsjelon raRac

sakiTxebze. erT-erT Wkvian adami-

anad mimaCnia giga zedania, romelic

saintereso adamiani da cocxali

tipia. SeiZleba, mas viRaca elitas

akuTvnebdes, magram realurad is

cxovrobs mecnieris cxovrebiT.

me Cemi profesiuli identoba

maqvs da amis iqiT Tavi ar gamyavs.

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70 cxeli Sokoladi

specproeqti

cxeli Sokoladi 71

visveneb, rogorc mixerxdeba.

imis gamo, rom bevr dros vxarjav

samsaxurSi, vcdilob, bavSvs es

dro maqsimalurad avunazRauro.

amitom Tavisufali drois udides

nawils masTan vatareb. minda, mis

mecadineobaSi ar Caverio, rom

damoukideblobas mieCvios, Tumca

xandaxan vexmarebi.

dasvenebisasac sabavSvo rep-

ertuari maqvs. SabaT-kviras

davdivarT kinoSi, sabavSvo filme-

bze. vcdilob, wignebis kiTxvasac

SevaCvio, Tumca filmebi urCev-

nia. zogjer, me TviTon vukiTxav.

Tavisufal dros megobrebT-

an erTad var xolme. me da Cems

meuRles saerTo megobrebi gvyavs

da amitom martivia urTierToba.

xSirad modian CvenTan saxlSi, an

Cven vstumrobT. bavSvisTvis di-

dad mimzidveli araa, roca yur-

adReba akldeba, magram `jetiqsi~

uvsebs am danakliss.

televiziis mimarT Cemi

damokidebuleba maqvs _ infor-

maciis wyaroa, magram roca ver

vaxerxeb pirdapir naxvas, inter-

nets mivmarTav xolme. me ufro

profesiuli TvaliT vuyureb _

akademiur saqmianobasac vewevi,

leqciebs vkiTxulob da maintere-

sebs es sfero. gasarTobi gadace-

mebis xarisxi xSirad sakamaToa, ra

Tqma unda, magram aris ramdenime,

rasac SeiZleba uyuro.

me `Sua qalaqs~ vuyureb didi

siamovnebiT. am xalxs rom vuy-

ureb, Cemi ojaxis wevrebiviT

arian. sxvaTa Soris, bavSvi wavi-

yvane Seqspiris `Sobis meTormete

Rameze~, romelSic `Sua qalaqis~

msaxiobebi TamaSobdnen. speqtak-

li sam saaTnaxevars gagrZelda,

Tematikac arasabavSvo iyo, magram

Cemma Svilma daTos da amiranis

eSxiT bolomde uyura. ase rom,

holivudis funqcias CvenTan `Sua

qalaqSi~ asrulebs.

Tamar kinwuraSvili

saerTod, rogor axerxeb

TbilisSi garTobas, es intere-

sebze da asakzea damokidebuli.

SeiZleba, iseTi mravalferovani

araa es qalaqi, magram vfiqrob,

rom nebismier adamians SeuZlia

Seiqmnas garemo, romelic daain-

teresebs.

kafes simyudrovis mixedviT

varCev. aris sxvadasxva adgilebi,

sadac ganwyobis da molodinebis

mixedviT midixar _ Tu vinmesTan

saubari ginda, siwynares arCev,

Tu zafxulia, gareT girCevnia

yofna, gril adgilas.

`salve~ mSvidi adgilia. `Peo-ple~ zafxulobiT Zalian mosax-

erxebelia. qalaqidan gasvla Za-

lian mexmareba da zafxulobiT

SabaT-kviras vcdilob bavSvTan,

qviSxeTis agarakze wavide xolme.

mcxeTis salobieSi davdivarT

xolme.

sufra interaqciisTvisaa mniS-

vnelovani. es SeiZleba, kafeSic

moaxerxo da tradiciul suf-

razec. ubralod, es ar unda

iyos fsevdoritualuri situacia.

TbilisSi aris kargi restornebi,

normaluri servisiT, Tumca am

mimarTulebas safuZvlianad ar

vicnob. servisis done, albaT,

ukeTesobisken midis, Tumca am

kuTxiT kidev bevria gasakeTebeli.

sxvadasxva wrisa da periodis me-

gobrebi myavs. zogjer samsaxur-

Sic gansakuTrebuli urTierTo-

bebi giyalibdeba. gazeT `dronSi~

rom vmuSaobdi, TanamSromlebi

TiTqmis erTi ojaxiviT viyaviT.

xSirad davdiodiT piknikebze gas-

arTobad. maTTan isev vmegobrob.

Tanamedrove qarTul xelovne-

bas didad ver vadevneb Tvals,

Tumca warmodgenebze roca mi-

wveven, mivdivar xolme, Tu iseTi

avtoria, romelic mainteresebs.

ucxoeTSi roca var, vcdilob bev-

ri ram davaTvaliero, Tumca aqac

bevri niWieri Semsrulebelia.

dasaxeleba miWirs, bolos saqarT-

veloSi arc erT warmodgenaze ar

vyofilvar.

baTumSi plasido domingos kon-

certze viyavi. klasikuri musika

miyvars da vcdilob, roca aris

amis SesaZlebloba, rame Rirebuli

vnaxo da daveswro. Zalian mome-

wona. emociuri iyo, kargi Ses-

ruleba, saintereso repertuari,

STambeWdavi.

zogadad azartuli var, joker-

ic miTamaSia. zogjer zedmetad

verTvebi da amis gamo vcdilob,

naklebad viTamaSo. kazinoebSi

arasodes vyofilvar.

gansakuTrebuli STabeWdileba

mqonda, roca islandiaSi, reikia-

vikSi avRmovCndi konferenciaze

da aseTi gancda, bunebasTan aseTi

siaxlove, simarTle giTxraT, ara-

sodes mqonia. Zalian saintereso

qveyanaa da rom ara evrosabWos

RonisZieba, albaT, verasodes

movxvdebodi. 4-5 dRe grZelde-

boda da am drois ganmavlobaSi

wyali yvela ganzomilebaSi vnaxe _

wvimis, naleqis, geizerebis. mSvi-

dad giyvebian _ guSin rom viyaviT

cisfer lagunaze, dRes miwis Zvra

iyo, vulkanma amoxeTqa. es lavebi

_ TiTqos usaxuri bunebaa, magram

CanCqerebi, geizerebi, cocxlad

SeigrZnob bunebas.

ganmartoeba, dasveneba yve-

la adamians sWirdeba. amis

moTxovnileba namdvilad maqvs.

komforti yovelTvis mniS-

vnelovania, magram roca arCev-

ani ar gaqvs, SeiZleba zogjer

raRacebi daTmo. studentobis

dros karavSi micxovria da didi

diskomforti ar Semqmnia. ra Tqma

unda, komforti ukeTesia, magram

esec egzotikaa. axlac wavidodi

karviT, ratomac ara, Tu sain-

tereso adgilis naxvis saSualeba

meqneboda.

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72 cxeli Sokoladi

specproeqti

cxeli Sokoladi 73

rTulia gamijvna, rodis vmuS-

aob da rodis visveneb. magaliTad,

studentobisas ganvicdidi, rom

dausruleblad SemeZlo sule-

luri amerikuli filmebis yureba.

sul vnanobdi gacdenil droze,

sanam ar mivxvdi, rom amaze wera

SeiZleba. frangebTan aRmovaCine,

rom SeiZleba, iazrovno da wero

yvelaferze, asanTis kolofzec

ki.

Tbilisis problema isaa, rom ra-

Racebi spontanurad ar gemTxveva,

ar mogdis. sul sxvaa megapolisSi

yofna. magaliTad, erTi wlis win

parizSi viyavi. vfiqrobdi, gafre-

namde ra mekeTebina. mivseirnob

quCaSi da uceb vxedav muzeum-

Si gamofenas zustad im Temaze,

razec im dros vmuSaobdi _ bi-

zantiis imperiis transformacia

osmalTa imperiad. xom warmogid-

geniaT, ramdeni raRac unda xde-

bodes qalaqSi, rom aseTi damTx-

veva moxdes?! rasakvirvelia, aseTi

ram TbilisSi ver SememTxveoda.

Zalian miyvars filmis yureba

saxlSi, Wiqa Rvinis TanxlebiT.

kompiuteris ekrani kinoTeatrs

mirCevnia. yvela kinomani ityvis,

rom es saSinelebaa, magram me es

momwons _ nebismier dros SegiZlia

gaaCero, gadaaxvio, daguglo, Tu

rame gagaxsenda. es, ra Tqma unda,

esTetikur STabeWdilebas asus-

tebs, magram saazrovno Tu sawer

masalaze kontrols zrdis.

megobrebTan erTad ufro sax-

inkleebSi davdivarT. Cems cols

ufro franguli samzareulo

urCevnia, me ufro `eTnikuri~

saWmeli miyvars _ tailanduri,

Cinuri, meqsikuri, maRribuli

samzareuloebi.

yavis sayidlad regularulad

Sevdivar kafe `antreSi~. Zalian

mewyina, roca am ori Tvis win

lates didi Wiqebi daapataraves,

fasi ki igive datoves. maSin mivx-

giga zedaniavdi, ra cudia, rom konkurencia

ar arsebobs _ `starbaqsi” rom

gvqondes qalaqSi, amas xom ver

gabedavdnen!

vfiqrob, rom CvenTan dRes

kulturis sferom TiTqmis mTli-

anad dakarga prestiJi. politi-

kurma kodma waSala yvelaferi,

rac ki arsebobda da axla

yvelaferi masTan mimarTebaSi

ganixileba. esaa nabiji axali

barbarosobisken, roca adamians

sxva araferi ainteresebs, garda

imisa, risi miRebac aq da am dros

SeiZleba. anu mxolod fuli da

Zalaufleba.

realurad, axla politikaze

Zalian bevrs vlaparakob, rasac

adre verasdros warmovidgendi.

2003 wlamde saerTod ar vicodi,

ra xdeboda am sferoSi. revo-

luciis dros germaniaSi viyavi,

disertaciis weris procesSi da

iq gadamedo araCveulebrivi en-

Tuziazmi, roca davinaxe Cemi me-

gobrebi, romlebic am yvelafers

akeTebdnen.

Zalian miyvars Cilimi, TurqeTi-

dan Camovitane. pirvelad egvip-

teSi gavsinje zustad aTi wlis

win, Cemi Zma muSaobda iq da axal

wels CavakiTxe. aleqsandriis

plaJze, silaSi iyo kafeebi, sadac

Sav CaisTan erTad mohqondaT es

wylis Cibuxebi. miuxedavad imisa,

rom sigareti arasodes momiwevia,

Cilimi imwamsve Semiyvarda.

Cemi sayvareli periodi musikaSi

_ baroko. miyvars opera, magram

ara pop-opera. magaliTad, boCe-

lis koncerti CemTvis daaxloebiT

britni spirsis mosmenis analogia.

Tumca operaSic snobebis gemovne-

bas seriozulad CamovrCebi _ mi-

yvars puCini.

dRes eliturobis gancda,

ZiriTadad, iseT adamianebs aqvT,

visac es mohyveba ojaxidan, mSo-

blebidan. is adamianebi, vinc

axla SromiT miaRwia warmatebas,

sakuTar Tavs elitas naklebad

miakuTvneben. ara imitom, rom

demokratiulebi da Tavmdablebi

arian, ubralod, cota dro gavi-

da imisTvis, rom sakuTari mdgo-

mareoba da statusi bunebrivad

miiCnion.

inteleqtualuri elita, ra Tqma

unda, arsebobs. rogorc frange-

bi ityvian, naRebis naRebi. isini

iZlevian tons, isini igoneben axal

arguments.

rac dro gadis, internetTan

ufro da ufro met dros vatareb.

aqac rTulia gaavlo mijna samuS-

aosa da dasvenebas Soris. saer-

Tod, Tanamedrove adamiani Zalian

damokidebulia SeCvevaze, misi

personaluroba aris, inglisuri

sityva rom gamoviyenoT, addict––ive. es imitom, rom Tanamedrove

adamianis subieqturoba cari-

eli subieqturobaa. adre, roca

tradiciul sazogadoebaSi ibade-

bodi, Sen winaswar geubnebodnen _

ai, Seni sfero, ai, Seni momavali,

ai, Seni funqcia da Sen amas ver

gacdebodi. Tanamedrove adamians

SeuZlia, gaakeTos yvelaferi, ra-

sac moindomebs, magram es imasac

gulisxmobs, rom adamiani cari-

elia. rac ufro modernizebule-

bi gavxdebiT, miT ufro gaizrdeba

Cveni adiqtiuroba.

gansakuTrebulad miyvars ganTi-

adi Ramis Tevis Semdeg. saerTod,

sul drois ukmarisobis nevrotu-

li SegrZneba maqvs. Zalian miWirs

sruli gaTavisufleba. hoda, zus-

tad am dros absoluturad mSvi-

dad var. daRlilobis gamo fori-

aqisa da momavalze zrunvis Tavi

aRar grCeba. gadixar gareT da sa-

gnebs uyureb interesisgan sruli-

ad daclili mzeriT. xandaxan mgo-

nia, rom Cemi usayvarlesi uoles

stivensi aseT mdgomareobaSi wer-

da sakuTari lirikas.

specproeqti

74 cxeli Sokoladi

specproeqti

cxeli Sokoladi 75

inteleqtualuri sixarbe da pa-

suxismgebloba _ es ori, ganuyreli

megobari sul Tan maxlda, am uni-

kaluri qalis cxovrebisa da Semo-

qmedebas rom ise davwafebodi, ro-

gorc ganumeorebeli tkbobisa da

aRmoCenebis saganZurs.

magram simon de bovuaris Sesaxeb

werisas sakmarisi sagzali ver iqne-

ba is, rac waikiTxe. amasTan aucile-

belia TviTrefleqsia, Semecnebu-

lis sakuTar bedSi, gamocdilebaSi

da gonebaSi gatareba, Tanagancdisa

da Tanawvdomis permanentuli mo-

nacvleoba. amis gareSe verasdros

SeZleb im sisavsis da mravalmxri-

vobis gadmocemas, romliTac igi

martiv, TviTtkbobas micemul go-

nebaTagan gamoirCeva.

Tu simon de bovuaris gzas mas-

Tan erTad gaivli, SenTvis axali

horizonti gaixsneba: sinamdvile,

romelSic cxovrob da rCebi, ufro

mravalferovani da saintereso

xdeba, magram Secvlas, silis gawnas

da gamofxizlebas moiTxovs. da Tu

Sens megzurs daujereb, maSin dRe-

mde `waukiTxav~ Sinaarsebs waiki-

Txav da `dauwerel~ wignebs dawer.

Zvel, eTnografiul teqstebSi

Cemi xetiali swored bovuaris dam-

saxurebaa. Zalian minda svanuridan

naTargmni `qalebis wesi~ am esesTan

erTad waikiTxoT, rogorc erTer-

Ti `waukiTxavi~ Sinaarsi. vin icis,

ra inteleqtualuri sazrdo iqne-

boda igi kulturaSi qalis adgilis

mkvlevari frangi feministisTvis?!

Their polyamorous relationship was un-conventional by any standards, not least those of the 1920s (when it began). The freedom to takeyamorous relationship was y standards

gza zrdili gogonadan

egzistencialur

martoobamde

simon de bovuaris gacnoba misi

memuarebis gareSe SeuZlebelia.

aq am unikaluri qalis akademiu-

ri da literaturuli naazrevis

gasaRebia. (zrdili qaliSvilis

mogonebebi _ 1958; mowifulobis

Zala _ 1960; sagnebis Zala _ 1963;

Sejameba _ 1972). aq Cans, rom cxo-

vrebis sisavsis SegrZneba, sinamd-

vilis wvdoma, gancda da gaazreba

misi Tandayolili vnebaa. rogor

daiwyo? Tavdapirvelad sakuTar

Tavs religiaSi eZebda: locvebsa

da aRsarebebSi, Semdeg _ intele-

qtualur SromaSi, mogvianebiT ki

_ literaturaSi. SeZlebuli oja-

xis Svilma kur deziris koleji

daasrula, rogorc keTilSobilma

qaliSvilma da saukeTeso momaval-

ma dedam. ToTxmeti wlis asakSi ki

sulieri mamis martenis daumsaxu-

Femme avtori: lela gafrindaSvili

istoria

76 cxeli Sokoladi

Uniqueistoria

cxeli Sokoladi 77

rebeli sayveduris Semdeg amboxe-

bas awyobs: `... misi suleluri xeli

kefaze mawveboda, maiZulebda Tavi

ufro damexara, miwisTvis mecqira,

igi sikvdilamde maiZulebs ... miwa-

ze vixoxo~.

am momentidan iwyeba wignebis

epoqa. `me sakuTari Tavi usafr-

Txo myudroebas, saimedo da mza-

mzareul cxovrebas gamovglije~.

ojaxur wesrigsa da idilias gamo-

qceuli gogona Jaks ukavSirdeba,

biZaSvils, romelic mas literatu-

ruli gmirebis bedSi, Rameuli pa-

rizis bohemur simxurvaleSi, vne-

bebis, `normisa~ da `marginaluris~

wvdomaSi megzurobda. aqedan ki

misi gza sorbonis universitetSi

midis, filosofiis fakultetze,

sadac `inteleqtualuri bediswe-

ra~, Jan-pol sartri, elodeba:

`Cven uamrav sakiTxze vsaubrob-

diT, magram ZiriTadad imaze, rac

me yvelaze metad mainteresebda:

Tavad Cems Sesaxeb. sxvebi sakuTar

samyaroSi meqaCebodnen, ... sartri,

piriqiT, Cems gagebas Cemive siste-

mis, Rirebulebebis, Canafiqrebis

Suqze cdilobda.

...misi azriT, me unda gavfrT-

xilebodi yvelaze mniSvnelovans

CemSi: Tavisuflebisken swrafvas,

sicocxlis siyvaruls, cnobiswa-

dils, weris survils...

... pirvelad vigrZeni, rom viRac

inteleqtualurad Cemze Zlieria...

sartri zustad Seefereboda imas,

rac TxuTmeti wlis asakSi visurve:

masSi me igive mgznebare vnebebi aR-

movaCine, rac sakuTar TavSi... ukve

samudamod: me mas yvelafers gavu-

ziareb. roca, agvistos dasawyisSi,

Cven erTmaneTs davSordiT, ukve

vicodi, rom es adamiani arasodes

wavidoda Cemi cxovrebidan...~

ori unikaluri moazrovnis cxo-

vreba samudamod SeerTda, Tan ise,

rom orive maTgani mkafiod Canda,

radgan arcerTi ar cdilobda me-

oris daCrdilvas, daqvemdebarebas,

ignorirebas da STanTqmas. sartr-

Tan erT WerqveS arasodes ucxo-

vria, magram sxvadasxva sastumro-

ebis binadari yovelTvis misken

iCqaroda: ideebis da miznebis gada-

saxedad, SemecnebiTi winsvlis gan-

saWvretad.

es iyo ori TviTobis Tanaarse-

boba da ara _ mTeli, sadac erTi

subieqtia, xolo meore _ obieqti,

sadac erTi TviTgamorkveuli da

TviTrealizebulia, xolo meore _

amiT bednieri. es iyo urTierToba

urTierT valdebulebebis, impera-

tivebis gareSe. inteleqtualuri

martooba da personaluri avto-

nomia is aucilebeli pirobebia,

romlis gareSec simon de bovuari

misi megzurisken arasdros gaixe-

davda. realoba, sadac verafers

cvli da sadac moZraobis Sansi ar

arsebobs, miuRebelia misTvis.

yofierebis erTaderTi realoba

adamiania, romelmac Tavisi samya-

ro Tavadve unda aavsos SinaarsiT.

Tavisufali neba da Tavisufle-

bisken swrafva sazogadoebriv ka-

nonebze da crurwmenebze Zlieria.

amitomaa, rom frangi feministi

arasodes erideboda `winaaRmdeg~

wasvlas, skeptikur, damangrevel,

SemajanjRarebel kiTxvebs. amito-

maa, rom 1949 wels gamosuli misi

`meore sqesi~ safuZvels aclis

qalis Cagvris/damorCilebis pa-

triarqalur inJinerias, `qaluro-

bis~ mSeneblobis inteleqtualur

tradicias: aRzrdis sistema, miTo-

logia, literatura, filosofia,

fsiqologia, Teologia.

simon de bovuaris azriT, froi-

diseuli fsiqoanalizi (anatomia _

es bedisweraa) da vulgaruli mar-

qsizmi (adamianis bedi ekonomikur

pirobebzea damokidebuli) iseve,

rogorc mTeli istoria qalebs

Tavisuflebis asparezs uxSobs,

aferxebs TviTgamorkvevisa da Tvi-

Tdgenis process:

... qalebad ki ar ibadebian, qale-

bi xdebian. arc biologiuri, arc

fizikuri, Tu ekonomikuri xvedri

ar gansazRvravs im xats, romelsac

iZens adamianis mdedri sazogadoe-

baSi; martooden civilizacia aya-

libebs mTlianobaSi am Sualedur

warmonaqmns mamrsa da kastrats

Soris...~

`qalis~ konstruirebis aqamde

dafaruli da ignorirebuli gamo-

cdileba `meore sqesis~ umTavresi

nawilia: menstruacia da seqsualu-

ri iniciacia, narcisi, Seyvarebu-

li, mistikosi da lesboseli qali.

`me viyavi Tvrameti wlis, roca

pirvelad menstruacia momivida.

araviTari gafrTxileba CemTvis

ar mouciaT. RamiT damewyo Zlieri

sisxldena, romelsac muclis are-

Si Zlieri tkivili axlda. mTeli

Rame, vercerTi wamiT ver movisve-

ne. diliT guli micemda; gaviqeci

dedasTan da tiril-tiriliT vki-

Txe rCeva. magram pasuxad mxolod

es mkacri SeniSvna miviRe: `Sen unda

SegemCnia ufro adre da ase ar da-

gesvara TeTreuli da logini~. sul

es iyo axsna. rasakvirvelia, Tavs

vitexdi, raTa gamego ra danaSauli

SeiZleboda Camedina...~

`...qalis vneba, yovelgvari saku-

Tari uflebebis totaluri ua-

ryofaa... qals surs, rom mas daeu-

istoria

78 cxeli Sokoladi

`me viyavi Tvrameti wlis, roca pirvelad

menstruacia momivida. araviTari

gafrTxileba CemTvis ar mouciaT. RamiT

damewyo Zlieri sisxldena, romelsac muclis

areSi Zlieri tkivili axlda. mTeli Rame,

vercerTi wamiT ver movisvene. diliT guli

micemda; gaviqeci dedasTan da tiril-

tiriliT vkiTxe rCeva~.

cxeli Sokoladi 79

flon... maSasadame, is moiTxovs

viRacas, vinc mas daeufleba, vinc

TviTon ar miecema, vinc sakuTar

me-s ar daiviwyebs; piriqiT, visac

surs Tavisi me siyvarulSi gaamdi-

dros... qali miecema da amis wyalo-

biT mamakaci amaRldeba...~

`me daviwye keklucoba. mWirde-

boda raRac `gamRizianebeli~. Za-

lian miyvarda cekva; cekvisas Tva-

lebs vxuWavdi, raTa am siamovnebas

srulad mivcemodi... cekvisas me

ganvicdidi erTgvar eqshibicio-

nizms, radganac mgrZnobeloba Ce-

mSi simorcxves jabnida. pirveli

weli mgznebared vcekvavdi. miyvar-

da Zili da bevri meZina, vmastur-

birebdi yoveldRe, xSirad mTeli

saaTis ganmavlobaSi . . . xSirad

iqamde, rom oflSi viRvrebodi,

aRar SemeZlo gagrZeleba da daR-

lili viZinebdi... viwvodi da Tanax-

ma viyavi nebismier mamakacze, rome-

lic Cems damSvidebas moindomebda.

me veZebdi ara individs, aramed

kacs...~

`... rom aRar vilaparakoT Ti-

Tqmis paTologiur SemTxvevebze,

isini ki xSiria, rodesac deda er-

Tgvari jalaTia, romelic bavSvis

CagvraSi ikmayofilebs Tavis domi-

nirebisa da sadistur instinqtebs,

misi qaliSvili warmoadgens mo-

xerxebul obieqts, romlis saxiTac

is cdilobs ganmtkicdes rogorc

suverenuli subieqti: dedis es

pretenziebi gogonas winaaRmdego-

bisa da amboxisken ubiZgebs...~

`... araferia imaze mcdari, vidre

lesbosuri inversiisa da mamaka-

curobis erTmaneTSi aRreva. bevri

homoseqsuali qalia odaliskebs,

kurtizan qalebs Soris, yvelaze

ufro `qalur~ qalebs Soris, da

piriqiT, `mamakacuri~ qalebis didi

raodenoba heteroseqsualuria.

seqsologebi da fsiqiatrebi asa-

buTeben da yoveldRiuri dakvirve-

bac mowmobs: `dawyevlili~ qalebis

umravlesoba swored sxva qalTa

msgavsia. araviTari `anatomiuri

xvedri~ maT seqsualobas ar gansa-

zRvravs...~

`... rodesac mamakacisa da qalis

seqsualur urTierTobebze pirve-

lad damelaparaknen, me ganvacxade,

rom es SeuZlebelia, radganac maSin

Cems mSoblebsac unda hqonodaT es,

me ki maT metismetad vcemdi pati-

vs da maT Soris aseT urTierTobas

ver vijerebdi. vambobdi, rom es me-

tismeti sazizRrobaa, raTa me ro-

disme igive Cavidino. samwuxarod,

Zalian male, rodesac gavigone ras

akeTebdnen Cemi mSoblebi, davrw-

mundi, rom vcdebodi. es momenti

autaneli iyo, me davifare saxeze

sabani, davice yurebi da mindoda am

adgilidan aTasi kilometriT Sors

vyofiliyavi...~

aseTma, aqamde /g/amouTqmelma

Sinaarsebma gamoiwvia dumilsa da

msxverplSewirvaSi CaZiruli sazo-

gadoebis gaRizianeba, magram qa-

lebisaTvis simon de bovuari al-

ternativebis arsebobis simbolod

iqca da rwmenad, rom qals, yvela-

fris miuxedavad, SeuZlia sakuTa-

ri cxovrebiT cxovreba, sakuTar

nebaze, sakuTari TavisTvis, Tu pi-

robiTobebsa da crurwmenebs dau-

Zvreba. `50-60-iani wlebis wyvdia-

dSi `meore sqesi~ iyo saidumlo

kodi, romliTac Cven, axlaxan ga-

mofxizlebuli qalebi, erTmaneT-

Tan urTierTobisas vsargeblob-

diT~, _ wers frangi qali.

cxovreba sakuTari nebiT

skandali sazogadoebis Sec-

nobas aCqarebs. es Zalian hgavs

Cvens pirovnebaSi dawyebul Sina-

gan konfliqts, romelsac faruli

vnebebis mizezebamde mivyavarT.

`originaluri mwerali yovelTvis

skandaluria~ _ ambobs simon de

bovuari da nevrozebisa da fsi-

qozebis dakvirvebas iwyebs. igi aR-

moaCens, rom aq adamianis qceva da

vnebebi dawmendili, pirvelyofi-

li saxiTaa mocemuli. fsiqozebis

uTvalav waxnagSi ki arsebuli re-

alobis mamxilebeli masala imale-

ba. marginalebis samyaro misTvis

bevrad mimzidvelia, vidre war-

matebuli mecnierebis garemocva.

rogorc filosofoss da mwerals,

gancdili da Seswavlili samyaro

erTnairad sWirdeboda.

inteleqtualuri Tanacxovre-

bis xuTi wlis Tavze sartrisa da

olga kazakeviCis siyvaruli iwye-

ba. masTan gatarebuli Svebuleba

TriaqiviT abruebs filosofoss.

simon de bovuari ki, rogorc me-

matiane `Sedis~ am komunikaciaSi

da mTlianad ivseba akrZalvebis

winaaRmdeg mebrZoli qalis su-

liskveTebiT: `...igi adamianuri

xvedris tyveobidan Tavis daRwe-

vas cdilobda... siamovnebas zR-

vardaudeblad eZleoda, xandaxan

guliswasvlamde cekvavda...~ 1943

wels gamoqveynebul romanSi `stu-

mari qali~ swored es `danis pirze

gavlis~ istoriaa gaazrebuli da

safrTxe, romelic am saarako stu-

marma maT Seuqmna.

>>> gagrZeleba gv. 99

istoria

80 cxeli Sokoladi

`me daviwye keklucoba. mWirdeboda

raRac `gamRizianebeli~.

Zalian miyvarda cekva; cekvisas

Tvalebs vxuWavdi, raTa am

siamovnebas srulad mivcemodi...

cekvisas me ganvicdidi erTgvar

eqshibicionizms, radganac

mgrZnobeloba CemSi simorcxves

jabnida. miyvarda Zili da

bevri meZina, vmasturbirebdi

yoveldRe, xSirad mTeli saaTis

ganmavlobaSi.~

cxeli Sokoladi 81

avtori: laSa buRaZe

mogonebebi

prezidentebze

(pirveli nawili)

1Tu ar vcdebi, vaclav havels aqvs naTqvami, im qvey-

nebSi, sadac demokratiis kuTxiT arcTu saxarbielo-

daa saqme, xalxi Tavis liders emsgavseba _ rogorc

temperamentiT, aseve mentalurado.

ar vici, riTi davemsgavseT Cveni damoukidebeli

yofis sam ufross, magram imas ki, rogorc ityvian,

sakuTar tyavzec vgrZnob, rom met-naklebad Cvenc vi-

cvlebodiT maT cvlasTan erTad.

wels iubile gvaqvs _ damoukidebel saqarTvelos

oci weli Seusrulda. am oc weliwadSi bevri iseTi

rame movaswariT, rasac sxvebi oc saukuneSic ver mo-

axerxebdnen _ oTxjer viomeT, ori prezidenti Camo-

vagdeT da, rogorc statistika gvamcnobs, Svidi aTas

orasTxuTmet mitingSi miviReT monawileoba. pirveli

prezidenti arCevidan eqvs TveSi gavamweseT fatalur

pensiaze, meore TerTmet weliwadSi (zogi ocdaaT

wels asaxelebs), xolo mesames orjer SeverkineT da

orjerve CavflavdiT. es mesame im orze kerketi kaka-

li aRmoCnda.

CvenTan, postsabWoeTSi, umetesad asea: ggonia, ada-

miani gyavs ufrosad, sinamdvileSi ki kunZi gyolia

arCeuli _ erT adgilze Tu daerWo, mere Zvras veRar

uzam. Tumca saqarTveloSi mainc odnav sxvanairadaa

saqme. prezidentisadmi damokidebuleba iseve radi-

kalurad icvleba, rogorc misi Sefasebis epiTetebi:

erT dRes mesiaa, meore dRes antiqriste. xalxmac Tu

avi Caido gulSi, aRar mogasvenebs _ saprezidento va-

das gagimwarebs; manam ar dawynardeba, sanam Senc ar

dagRupavs da Tavsac ar gaiwvalebs. Sesabamisad, Tuki

postsabWour `kunZTa~ umravlesobas gadavavlebT

Tvals, davinaxavT, rom Cveni `kunZebi~ am mxriv yvela-

ze mowyvladni gaxlavan.

marTalia, prezidentebi yvelgan aqtualurebi arian,

magram CvenTan am SemTxvevaSic gansakuTrebul vnebe-

bTan gvaqvs saqme: is, visac prezidenti hqvia, aranor-

malurad, paTologiurad aqtualuria saqarTveloSi

(oRond, cxadia, mxolod vadis amowurvamde); ra Tema-

zec ar unda laparakobde, bolos mainc prezidentze

alaparakdebi; visac ar unda lanZRavde, bolos mainc

82 cxeli Sokoladi

esei

prezidenti SemogeTaTxeba; visac da rasac ar unda

asxamde xotbas, bolos mainc Sens `kunZs~ dauwyeb qe-

bas. prezidenti srulad iWreba Sens biografiaSi da

romc ar gindodes, mainc Tavis mediumad gaqcevs. ra-

tom? dasawyisi xom waikiTxeT? imitom, rom cxovelur

demokratiebSi erTi kaci xdeba qveyana da Senc masze

hkideb Sens yvela imedsa Tu uimedobas; Sens tansa da

biografias mas uTmob mosavlelad da gadasarCenad.

da isic iRebs, Tan gpirdeba: kargad movuvli, Sen ki

araferze iRelvo, mxolod damamSvidebeli wamlebi

svio. magram, rogorc wesi, ver uvlis da Senc brazob

_ yviri, Cxubob da mouwodeb, ukan dagibrunos mis-

Tvis gadabarebuli da amaod gaxarjuli cxovreba... is

ki, aba, risi dambrunebelia, erTaderTi, rac SeuZlia,

Seni lanZRva an arSemCnevaa.

da Senc dasdev, rogorc utano, SfoTiani moCvene-

ba...

2ganvlili ocwleulis istoria prezidentisa da mo-

qalaqis urTierTdazafvris istoriaa. rogorRac ase

gamovida, rom erTmaneTis daSinebaSi davostatdiT.

orTaveni mudmiv stresSi vamyofebT erTmaneTs da, sa-

bolood, arcTu imdenad Wkvian sadomazoxistur wyvi-

lad viqeciT: tkivili bevria, siamovneba ki cota.

marTalia, zogierTs ar uyvars amis gaxseneba, magram

garkveuli droiT umetesoba marTlac tyupiscaliviT

davemsgavseT Cvens pirvel prezidents (yvelafers

Tavi rom davaneboT, swored misgan viswavleT demons-

traciebze dgoma da sityvebis _ `damoukidebloba~ da

`saqarTvelo~ _ erTi_meores miyolebiT Tqma), Tumca

mere am kaciT ise SeviSineT Tavi, rom Tavadac sikvdi-

lis piras miviyvaneT SiSisgan.

erTi kia, Camoyalibebulad da gamarTulad dResac

veravin getyviT, mainc ratom wamoviwyeT pirveli pre-

zidentis gadamgdebi samoqalaqo omi, Tumca SeSine-

bulebi da gaRizianebulebi rom viyaviT, amas Zalian

bevri dagidasturebT.

sainteresoa, mainc ram SegvaSina ase?

faqtia, metismetad giJurad gamodioda mitinge-

bze. anu, rac gaprezidentebamde uxdeboda, mere Ti-

Tqos saSinlad aRar mouxda. SegvaSina misma ramdenime

cxeli Sokoladi 83

cnobilma frazam, romelTa umetesobac, Turme, arc

uTqvams, magram istoriaSi mainc misad darCa. magali-

Tad: `saqarTvelo qarTvelebisTvis~, an TiTqosda

mama buSze (prezident buSs vgulisxmob da ara rome-

lime sasuliero pirs) Tqmuli: `amerikis prezidenti

kremlis agentia~. Tumca imave istorias misi iseTi si-

tyvebic axsovs, romelic, wesiT, araviTar SemTxvevaSi

ar unda wamocdenoda ganaTlebul disidents. Tun-

dac es rad Rirs, erT_erT mitingze wamocdenili _

afxazeTSi dasaxlebuli afsuebis Sesaxeb. politikaSi

mosul inteleqtuals kargad unda scodnoda, ra Sei-

Zleboda mohyoloda amgvar saeWvo saleqcio kurss.

dRemde verc is ambavi gagvirkvevia, marTlac ad-

gendnen Tu ara `araqarTvelTa Sav siebs~ rig dawese-

bulebebSi? marTalia, xalxi SeSinda, magram Savi sie-

bis ambavi dRemde ̀ istoriulad arsebul miTad~ rCeba.

Tumca aseTi SemTxvevebic iyo: magaliTad, Cemma me-

zobelma, moxucma rusma qalbatonma, mTeli cxovreba

saqarTveloSi rom gaatara da sxva enas rom ar scno-

bda rusulis garda, zviad gamsaxurdias gapreziden-

tebisTanave Seiswavla ramdenime qarTuli sityva da

awi Tuki SeniSvnas iZleoda (SeniSvnebi ki misi stiqia

gaxldaT), mxolod `meored mosvlis enaze~: `nu kmau-

robt!~, `vin gadaketa ckali?~, `baboSens vetkvi~ da a.

S. magram rogorc ki prezidenti ganidevna, SiSi umal

miiviwya da kvlav mSobliuri enis wiaRSi dabrunda.

netav, ras fiqrobda es qalbatoni? Tuki qarTuls ar

iswavlida, daiWerdnen an qveynidan gandevnidnen? ra-

tom gauCnda aseTi SiSebi?

erTi iseTi kacic iyo, romelic jiutad da brazia-

nad usworebda xalxs qarTuls: `ara _ vertalioti,

aramed _ caTmTqvefia~, `ara _ violino, aramed _ yel-

fandura~. ar vici, es kaci ra Tanamdebobas flobda,

magram prezidentis axlos ki idga, zviad gamsaxurdias

sxva mxardamWer_qveSevrdomebiviT qarTvel wmindanad

miiCnevda (wmindan_prezidentad) da udidesi siamovne-

biT amxelda qarTuli inteligenciis zogierT warmo-

madgenels. magaliTad, kargad maxsovs, rogor amxila

_ me vityodi, rogorc mociqulma petrem neroni _ me-

violine liana isakaZe da TiTqmis dawyevla yelfandu-

raTa ojaxSi Semavali yvela instrumenti. Tu ar vc-

debi, violinos (da, Sesabamisad, xsenebul meviolines)

ukiduresad araqarTul movlenad miiCnevda.

zemoT inteligentTa warmomadgenlebi vaxsene. vin_

vin da eseni ki yvelaze metad dafrTxnen. ifiqres, Su-

ris maZiebeli demoni mogvevlina prezidentado. wle-

bis win uSualod eseni Tu ara, swored amaTi winapari

inteligentebi uwyobdnen egzekuciebs disidentad

myof amJamindel prezidents mweralTa kavSirSi (am

egzekuciebis stenogramac arsebobs). maSindel `pro-

fesiul sasamarTloebs~ ki aucileblad mohyveboda

socialuri `mglis bileTi~ da cixe (zogjer daxvre-

tac).

aseTi SiSebic iyo: mavani xelovani oflgaRvrili

iRviZebda loginSi da sasowarkveTili luRluReb-

da: `axla yvelas dagviWers, Cveni binebidan gamogvag-

debs da Tavis mxardamWerebs (waikiTxe _ megrelebs)

Caasaxlebs~. zogi iaraRsac malavdao baliSis qveS

esei

84 cxeli Sokoladi

qveynis meTauris disertaciis dacvas. SegeSindeboda,

aba ra. marTalia, filologebs gauxardaT _ TavianTi

profesiis amgvar aRiarebaze sxva dros da sxva viTa-

rebaSi, verc iocnebebdnen, magram marto filologebi

da literatorebi xom ar cxovrobdnen am qveyanaSi...

3xalxs CvenSi ase sCvevia: prezidentis romelime

aqtiur qveSevrdoms amoiCemebs xolme, SeiZulebs da

xelisuflebis yovelgvari biwierebisa da mankierebis

simbolod dasaxavs (oRond, mTavaria, es qveSevrdomi

xSirad Candes sajarod _ vTqvaT, teleeTerSi). `ga-

Rizianebis obieqtebis~ naklebobas, gulwrfelad rom

vTqva, arasdros vuCiodiT, pirveli prezidentis Se-

mTxvevaSi ki es pativi `qarTvel gebelsad~ wodebul

Temur qoriZes ergo. es kaci, dro da dro, dResac

Cndeba ekranze da vinme ama sofels ganridebuli be-

ris saTnoebiT saubrobs saqarTvelos da uSualod

masTan dakavSirebuli warsulis Sesaxeb (da ara mxo-

lod; cota xnis win Tvali movkari, paulo koelioze

laparakobda). maSin ki es adamiani xalxs iseTi mondo-

mebiT aZulebda Tavis saTayvanebel prezidents, rom,

vfiqrob, esec mis uneblie CamomgdebTa siaSi unda

CavweroT. axla ki Sehyvarebia koelio da misTanani,

magram imxanad, Turme, cenzorobiskenac gaqcevia xeli

_ Teatraluri Cagrulebi hyvebian, rigi speqtaklebis

akrZalva undoda da premierebis TamaSis nebas ar gva-

Zlevdao...

akrZala ki, bolos da bolos? amas ki aRar gviyve-

bian. eWvi maqvs, ver moaswro...

esei

(roca im epoqaze fiqrob, SeuZlebelia xeli ar ga-

geqces da konstantine gamsaxurdias stiliT ar Se-

mogeweros erTi fraza mainc). im drois respubliku-

ri aristokratia, rogorc wesi, am sityvebiT iwyebda

xolme gamsaxurdias kritikas: `mamamisis muxlebSi var

gazrdili, me ar vici, eg ra iyo!~. iseTi STabeWdileba

rCeboda, TiTqos mTeli maSindeli inteligencia sa-

Zulveli prezidentis mamis muxlebze iyo Camomsxdari

(amisTana ra muxlebi hqonda am kacs!) da skefsisiTa da

SiSiT akvirdeboda ̀ adreuli asakidanve aranormalur,

faSist bavSv~ zviads. ase rom, is, rac oTxmocdaaTia-

nebSi moxda, bavSvobisdroindeli SeSinebuli mego-

brebis amboxadac SeiZleba CavTvaloT _ damfrTxali

amxanagebis revoluciad, dazafruli Zmakac_daqale-

bis putCad.

Tumca prezidents mxolod mamamisis kalTaze jdo-

miT motrabaxe gogo_biWebi ar SeuSinebia, sxvebic da-

Sindnen, _ maT Soris, Tbilisis centraluri ubnebis

energiuli axalgazrdebi: am agznebul da Tavneba ba-

vSvebs sul sxva molodinebi hqondaT, realurad ki

daxvewil_elitarul_Tavisufali qveynis magier, pa-

Tetikur_provinciul_paternalisturi `respublika

saqarTvelo~ SerCaT. maTi azriT, Tavisufleba, cota

ar iyos, goimuri aRmoCnda. am dros, ra kargad daiwyo

yvelaferi: SedarebiT Tamami ̀ meore arxis~ erT_erTma

wamyvanma Tavisi gadacema prezervativiT xelSi gaas-

rula da, ar vici, am Tu sxva mizezis gamo, mere uswra-

fesad gaqra eTeridan Tavis prezervativianad, tele-

sivrce ki erT mSvenier dRes prezidentis sadoqtoro

Temas, `vefxistyaosnis saxismetyvelebas~ daeTmo

_ Tbilisis pirveli arxi (maSin ase erqva) pirdapir

eTerSi sruli eqvsi saaTis ganmavlobaSi gadmoscemda

cxeli Sokoladi 85

4sabWoTa kavSiri metismetad sasacilod daiSala.

sabWouri xanis miwuruls teleekranebze yvelaze

xSirad aTasgvari juris eqstrasensebi, parafsiqolo-

gebi da parodistebi Candnen.

xumroba da banaluri misticizmi erTmaneTTan ve-

lur SejibrSi iyvnen Cabmulni. maxsovs, samezoblos

xnieri qalebi romelime erTi diasaxlisis binaSi ikri-

bebodnen, televizorTan ikavebdnen adgilebs da sa-

bWoeTis miwurulis yvelaze cnobili eqstrasensis

morigi seansis dawyebas elodnen. eqstrasensi (misi

sazamTrosaviT mrgvali Tavi mTel ekrans ikavebda)

idumali xmiT mouwodebda xalxs daZinebisken da Ra-

mis `vremias~ Semdeg SesaSuri pedanturobiT abruebda

oras milion adamians.

_ roca aTamde aval, Tqven ukve Rrma ZilSi iqne-

biT... erTi... ori... sami...

codva gamxelili sjobs, zog qalbatons eqstrasensis

gamoCenamde ereoda Tvlema, zogsac pirdapir misi ga-

moCenisTanave eReboda piri, umetesoba ki ukve `eqvsze~

da `Svidze~ iwyebda fSvinvas. dRemde ver gamigia, ratom

uxarodaT Cvens mezoblad mcxovreb qalbatonebs am Tav-

gidelas miTiTebebisa da kontrolis qveS CaZineba. paro-

distebs ki, eqstrasensebisgan gansxvavebiT, faqtobrivad,

mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi dapyrobili hqondaT teleeTe-

ri. sadac ar unda gagexeda, yvelgan mondomebuli mim-

baZvelebi dagixvdebodnen. arc erT imperias ar hyolia

amdeni parodisti, ramdenic Cven gvyavda, sabWoTa moqa-

laqeebs. mibaZva, ̀ gabaZva~ da ̀ gabrazeba~ sabWoeTis daisis

erT_erTi mTavari gasarTobi iyo. Tumca saqarTveloSi

yovelive es idumalebiT moculi cekas mdivnis, givi gum-

bariZis wasvliT dasrulda (eris mier `mamadud~ saxel-

debuli, grafi kaliostrosaviT aorTqlebuli, saq ssr_s

es saocari mmarTveli dRemde erT_erT gamoucnob feno-

menad rCeba saqarTvelos uaxles istoriaSi); erovnulma

prezidentma pirwmindad gaaqro teleekranebidan paro-

distebi da parafsiqologebi (mfrinav TefSebze mosau-

bre xalxis CaTvliT). erTxel, televizorTan jdomisas,

Tavad Seveswari, rogor Sewyvites tradiciulad ekle-

qtikuri koncertis translireba filarmoniad wodebu-

li didi sakoncerto darbazidan: translaciis Sewyvetis

mizezi ki erTi loyawiTeli jeeli iyo, romelic mTeli

guliT cdilobda Tavisi prezidentis parodirebas. Tum-

ca mxolod ori winadadebis TqmaRa moaswro gverdulad

maRla aweuli tuCiT _ prezidentis xmiT alaparakebisTa-

nave gamorTes. imis mere aRarc maxsovs, vinmes sajarod

Tu miebaZa Cveni prezidentisTvis, Torem SevardnaZis

mimbaZvelebis naklebobas namdvilad ar uCioda naciona-

luri teleeTeri. Woraobdnen kidec, rom TiTqos prezi-

esei

86 cxeli Sokoladi

denti TavisTan kabinetSi ibarebda erT cnobil msaxiobs

da SevardnaZis xmiT alaparakebda am ukanasknelisTvis

metad Seuferebel da damamcirebel Temebeze. legendebs

ra gamolevda. aq ra mosatania, magram erTxel, preziden-

tis gaqcevidan ramdenime TveSi, me da ̀ cxeli Sokoladis~

erT_erTma Tanaredaqtorma magnitofonis kasetaze Ca-

vwereT SevardnaZisa da gamsaxurdias kamaTi. SevardnaZis

xma Cemi iyo, gamsaxurdiasi _ misi. bebiaCemis dabadebis

dRe axlovdeboda da, raki mis wreSi (`gogoebSi~, rogorc

Tavad ambobs) mravlad erivnen gandevnili prezidentis

momxreebi, vifiqreT, qalbatonebs guls movuoxebdiT da

Cvens CanawerSi mainc gavamarjvebinebdiT maT favorits.

ase vTqviT: erT_erTma radiokompaniam SevardnaZe_ga-

msaxurdias satelefono Canaweri moipova da Semdeg ka-

setebad gaavrcelao. trabaxad nu CamomarTmevT, magram

imdenad cxovelmyoflad vbaZavdiT im drois mTavar

gmirebs, rom msmenelebma Sokur mdgomareobaSi dahyves

pirveli aTi wuTi (`saubari~ 45 wuTs grZeldeboda), mere

ki bebiaCemma gagvyida; etyoba, dafrTxa, dabadebis dRe

ar CameSaloso. maSin yvelaze Tavganwiruli, ulmobeli

da xmauriani Cxubebi swored pirveli prezidentis gamo

tydeboda da erTmaneTTan naomari xalxic Semdeg Tveo-

biT (zogierTi ki wlobiT) ar elaparakeboda erTmaneTs.

WeSmaritad apokalifsuri suraTebi cocxldeboda Cvens

Tvalwin: Zma Zmas erCoda, Svili dedas (erTma, magaliTad,

prezidentis momxre, dauRlelad mokamaTe deda sagiJeT-

Si gamoketa ramdenime kviriT), coli qmars da mZaxali

mZaxals... iSviaTad yofila qarTveli iseTi gaSmagebuli,

rogorc am Temaze yvirilisas.

5roca qarTul fobiebze vsaubrobT, SeuZlebelia ar

gagvaxsendes prezidentis coli, romelmac sakmari-

sad dagvafrTxo meoce saukunis oTxmociani wlebis

bolos. saerTod, upriani iqneboda qarTvel poli-

tikosTa qarTvel colebze damoukidebeli kvlevac

Cagvetarebina (an egeb wignic daewera vinmes), radgan

temperamentian da ambiciur colebs rom SeuZliaT av-

non prezidentebsa da, zogadad, politikosebs, amdeni

zianis motana, vfiqrob, erTad aRebul yvela gare Tu

Sida mtersac ki ar gamouva. samwuxaroa, magram, ro-

gorc Cans, problema politikosebis qarTvel coleb-

Sia, radgan ucxoeli colebi (Tundac mxolod amJamin-

deli prezidentis colis magaliTiT Tu vimsjelebT),

araTu xels uwyoben gaRizianebis gamsxvilebas (ro-

gorc es pirveli prezidentis colis SemTxvevaSi iyo),

aramed piriqiT _ krizis dros xilulad dadebiTi

impulsebi SeaqvT gaRizianebis klebis, an, yovel Se-

mTxvevaSi, argazrdis procesSi.

>>> gagrZeleba gv. 99

esei

cxeli Sokoladi 87

saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris prezidiumis sxdomis stenografuli Canaweri, 1977 wlis 1 aprili

`saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSi-

ri… saqarTvelos ssr lxcs arqi-

vi… fondi # 8… aRw. 1, saq. 2913…

saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSi-

ris prezidiumis 1977 wlis sxdo-

mis stenografiuli angariSi…

01.04.77“.

stenografiuli angariSi saqar-

Tvelos mweralTa kavSiris prezi-

diumis sxdomisa, 1977 wlis 1 apri-

li.

Tavmjdomareobs grigol abaSiZe.

Tavmjdomare: _ amxanagebo, dRes

Cven SevikribeT erTi iseTi saki-

Txis gansaxilvelad, romelzedac,

albaT, es dReebi yvela Tqvengani

fiqrobs.

Tqven yvela gaecaniT Tqvens pre-

saSi gamoqveynebul masalebs Cveni

kavSiris wevris zviad gamsaxurdias

garSemo.

Cven, yvelani, bevris momswre

varT, bevris SemTxveva ara gvqonia.

mas Semdeg, rac socializmma gai-

marjva Cvens qveyanaSi, mas Semdeg,

rac sabWoTa xalxma samamulo omSi

aseTi Zlevamosili gamarjveba moi-

pova da aseTi warmateba aqvs sabWo-

Ta qveyanas, mTeli sabWoTa mwer-

loba darazmulia Cveni partiis

irgvliv da ar yofila raime faqti

romelime qarTveli mwerlis anti-

sabWoTa moRvaweobis Sesaxeb. ufro

meti kidev, iseTi didi mwerali

Cveni droisa, rogoric konstanti-

ne gamsaxurdia gaxldaT, romelmac

aseTi rTuli gza gaiara, sruliad

dadga sabWoTa platformaze, dawe-

ra Cveni droisaTvis sruliad mo-

sawoni nawarmoebebi, dawera romani

`mTvaris motaceba~, misi publicis-

turi nawarmoebebi, romlebic idga

sabWoTa poziciebze da is mTeli

Tavisi SemoqmedebiT emsaxureboda

Cveni qveynis saqmes, mogexsenebaT,

bolos konstantine gamsaxurdia

leninuri ordenis kavaleric gaxl-

daT da mravali jildosa da saxel-

mwifo premiis mflobeli.

es imitom gavixseneT, rom dRe-

visac istoria ainteresebs da ikvlevs, `cxeli Sokoladis~ axali rubrika `arqividan~ namdvilad `fasdaude-

beli ganZia~.

winamdebare nomerSi gTavazobT saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris prezidiumis sxdomis 1977 wlis 1 aprilis

stenografiuli angariSs, romelic Cveni qveynisa da sazogadoebis uaxlesi istoriis erT-erTi yvelaze mniS-

vnelovani `dokumentia~. 15 wlis winswrebiT, 1991-92 wlebis samoqalaqo omis Canasaxsac ki dainaxavs `modara-

je kacis Tvali~. xsnebuli `peripetiebi~ arcTu ise Soreul warsuls ganekuTvneba, amgavri istoriebis cod-

na da analizi ufro mizanSewonilad migvaCnia, vidre misi miCqmalva da gandevna, msgavsi gandevnili ambebi

xom mudam Tavs gvatydebian `socialur nevrozebad~, `samoqalaqo aSlilobebad~ da, ara iSviaTad, masobriv

paranoiebad. 34 wlis win `sabWoTa samSobloSi~ vcxovrobdiT, rogori iyo `sabWoTa saqarTvelo~ da masSi

`cxovreba da moRvaweoba,~ amas Tqven winamdebare masalebidan ufro srulfasovnad SeityobT, vidre isto-

riis nebismieri saxelmZRvanelos daxmarebiT. Cven, girCevT gverdze gadadoT Tqveni simpaTia-antipaTiebi

da bunebismetyvelis miukerZoebeli TvaliT SeigrZnoT sakuTari sazogadoebis istoria da misi `buneba~.

pirvelad gamoqveynda www.lib.ge-ze

88 cxeli Sokoladi

vandeli Cveni sxdoma exeba zviad

gamsaxurdias, Cveni kavSiris wevrs.

Tqven icnobT gazeTis masalas. es

dReebi presa uTmobda adgils im

masalebs, romelic exeboda zviad

gamsaxurdias moRvaweobas. Cven

mogvmarTa respublikis prokura-

turam `saTanado reagirebisaTvis

gegzavnebaT…~ (kiTxulobs) … es

masala miviReT. prezidiumis wevre-

bma gaicnes.

rogorc Tqven naxeT da rogorc

gazeTebi adastureben, es aris an-

tisabWoTa propaganda. Tqven mo-

gexsenebaT mweralTa kavSiris wes-

deba, romlis mixedviTac mweralTa

kavSiris wevrad iTvlebian isini,

vinc mTlianad dganan sabWoTa po-

ziciebze da Rebuloben aqtiur

monawileobas komunizmis mSene-

blobaSi. Tu kaci eweva antisabWo-

Ta propagandas, antisabWoTa moR-

vaweobas, is Tavis Tavs ayenebs am

organizaciis gareSe. Tu Cven gva-

erTianebs komunizmis mSenebloba

da misi aqtiuri mSeneblebi varT,

es aris Cveni sulis, Cveni mowode-

bis nakarnaxevi, da Tu kaci ibrZvis

mis winaaRmdeg, is TviTon ayenebs

Tavis Tavs am organizaciis gareSe.

albaT, is TviTon ar sTvlis Tavs

Cveni kavSiris wevrad. aq bevri masa-

laa, magram marto ors davasaxeleb

am masalidan, erTi gaxlavT `saqar-

Tvelos moambeSi” gamoqveynebuli

antisabWoTa proklamacia, rome-

lic moskovSi gaavrceles frangma

da norvegielma turistebma, rom-

lebic amis gamo dapatimrebuli

iyvnen. es proklamacia gadmobeWdi-

lia am `moambeSi~. meore, ramac

guli atkina Cvens xalxs, es gaxla-

vT faSisti generlis maRlakeliZis

gardacvalebis gamo gamoqveynebu-

li masala, sadac qeba-didebaa im

kacisa, romelic mouZRoda faSis-

tur legions da romelic viTom

saqarTvelos sruli gaTavisufle-

bisaTvis ibrZoda.

ai, mokled, rac mindoda meTqva.

amxanagebi gamoTqvamen TavianT

azrs da Semdeg movusminoT zviads.

rogor gaimarTlebs Tavs.

Zalian samwuxaroa es SemTxveva,

radgan Cven aseTi SemTxveva ara-

sodes ar gvqonia. gansakuTrebiT

axla, roca respublikas warmatebe-

bi aqvs da rodesac eduardi movi-

da xelmZRvanelobaSi, konstantine

erTi pirvelTagani miesalma mas, da

kidev ufro gasakviri da samwuxa-

roa es SemTxveva.

zviad gamsaxurdia _ ra iuridiu-

li safuZveli aqvs yvelafer amas,

riT mtkicdeba?

Tavmjdomare _ presisa da proku-

raturis masaliT.

zviad gamsaxurdia _ im proku-

raturas ra iuridiuli safuZveli

aqvs? Tqven sabuTebs ar gacnobd-

nen?

Tavmjdomare _ gamoigzavna es

masala, prokuratura sTvlis, rom

masala aris sakmarisi. ai, ras iwe-

reba… „romlebic dabeWdilia da

gavrcelebulia mweralTa kavSiris

wevris, zviad gamsaxurdias mier

araoficialur JurnalSi „saqar-

Tvelos moambeSi~.

zviad gamsaxurdia _ is mTvlis me

redaqtorad? me xom xels ar vawer.

me ara var redaqtori.

Tavmjdomare _ magaze Tqven mi-

marTeT prokuraturas, Cven unda

daveyrdnoT im masalas, romelic

gazeTSia... nodar, xom ar daiwye-

bT?!

nodar dumbaZe _ Cven gavecaniT

masalas, romelic dabeWdilia ara-

legalur Jurnal „saqarTvelos

moambeSi”. kidev gavecaniT Jurna-

lebis wyebas, romelsac `oqros sa-

wmisi“ hqvia. piradad me, rodesac

wavikiTxe ̀ oqros sawmisi”, is ar mo-

meCvena seriozul Jurnalad, rad-

gan masSi friad susti da dabali

gemovnebis nawarmoebebi qveyndeba

da rodesac gavecani im masalas,

romelic mogvawoda Cven prokura-

turam, sadac gamoqveynebulia an-

tisabWoTa proklamacia, romelic

mouwodebs Cvens xalxs sabWoTa

xelisuflebis damxobisaken, me mi-

maCnia, rom am Jurnalis xelmZRva-

neli an avtori am masalisa ar aris

Rirsi mweralTa kavSiris wevrobisa

da piradad CemTvis, rogorc mwer-

lisaTvis da komunistisaTvis, miu-

Rebelia.

Tavmjdomare _ giorgi!

giorgi ciciSvili _ me Cemi mego-

brebisaTvis ar miTqvams, saerTod

ar vlaparakobdi, rom Zalian mZime

wlebi gaviare omSi da ara imitom,

rom daWrili viyavi da brma, aramed

vnaxe saSinelebani, romlebic Cems

Tvalwin trialebda. Cveni propa-

ganda Tavis droze ki ar aWarbeb-

da, aramed susti iyo, rom ar aCvena

mTeli is saSineleba, rac faSizms

mohyveboda.

me saSinlad amaRelva iman, rom

maRlakeliZe aqcieT erovnul gmi-

rad, me ara erTi proklamacia Ca-

mvardnia xelSi, me StabSi vmuSa-

obdi da bevri mohqondaT aseTi

proklamaciebi, is proklamaciebi

bevri minaxavs StabSi, magram am

proklamaciam, romelic am ara-

legalur JurnalSia dabeWdili,

saSinlad amaRelva imitom, rom

qarTvel axalgazrdobaSi aRZravs

eWvs, qarTvel axalgazrdebs eWvs

uRvivebs da am proklamaciam Sei-

Zleba mowamlos qarTveli axalga-

zrdoba. zviadma brZana, rom amisi

redaqtori ara varo da Cven yvelam

viciT, da iseTi avtoritetuli

organo wers, rogoric aris proku-

ratura.

Cven wavikiTxeT es masala, Tmebi

yalyze dagvidga, gansakuTrebiT

es proklamacia. warmoudgenelia,

1977 wels aseTi proklamacia vin-

mem SeTxzas an gadmobeWdos.

>>> gagrZeleba gv. 100

Tavmjdomare: vin aris momxre, gairicxos?

gTxovT, aswioT xeli! gTxovT, dauSvaT! vin aris

winaaRmdegi? aravin. Tavi vin Seikava? aravin.

maSasadame, winadadeba miRebulia erTxmad.

cxeli Sokoladi 89

arqividan

li~ rCeviT igi xels ostaturad

icvlida da Zvel qarTul enaze,

vin mosTvlis, vis da ris lanZRva-

ginebas aRara werda im anonimur

werilebSi, es vaJbatoni saqar-

TveloSi `mxsnelad movlenili

mociqulis~ saxeliT rom avrce-

lebinebda eklesiebSi, umaRles

saswavleblebSi, saxelmwifo dawe-

sebulebebSi Tu sazogadoebrivi

TavSeyris adgilebSi. v.failoZes,

romelic 130-ze meti anonimuri

werilis avtoria, Tavisi miezRo,

magram misgan davalebuli z. ga-

msaxurdia unugeSod ar tovebs

Tavis marjvena xels. radio `Ta-

visuflebidan~ qveyanas agebinebs

`simarTlisaTvis devnili gmiru-

li da vaJkacuri sulis mqone qar-

Tveli qalis mowameobas~.

afsus, Seginebulo saxelo qar-

Tveli qalisao! romel qarTvel

qals ukadrebia quCa-quCa xetiali

da ucenzuro sityvebiT lanZRva-

Seuracxyofa? am ori Worikana

`morwmunis~ megobrobam axal `si-

maRles~ miaRwia. sazogadoebis

Tvalis axvevis mizniT z. gamsa-

xurdiam meore colTan SeZenili

bavSvis naTliaoba SesTavaza, ma-

gram mRvdels wesis Sesrulebaze

uari ganucxadebia. vidre ekle-

siaSi SfoTsa da arev-darevas te-

xavT, me wess ver SegisrulebTo,

_ eTqva moZRvars. gawiwmatebuli

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vakeTeb, rac aqamde ar gamikeTe-

biao (?!)

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dRes Cven, misi msaxurni, ga-

movxatavT ra yoveli morwmu-

ne pirovnebis azrs, mTeli Cveni

mRvdelmTavruli SegnebiT Tavs

valdebulad vracxT da xmas vimaR-

lebT am garewrebis winaaRmdeg,

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romelTac winaparTa aRsareba ua-

ruyviaT, xels ar aZlevT qarTu-

li marTlmadidebluri eklesiis

mTlianoba, saxels utexen saerTa-

Soriso asparezze, raTa binZuri

vnebaTaRelvani daiokon da egeb

raime saswauliT dasayrdeni moi-

povon mis wiaRSi, rom uZvelesi

eklesia seqtantobisa da ukeTuri

saqmianobis asparezad gadaaqcion.

es yvelafris mkadrebeli ma-

niakebi, romelTac mamuliSvilo-

bisa da keTilmorwmuneobis niRabs

amofarebuli zviad gamsaxurdia

meTaveobs, TvalTmaqcoben, bin-

Zur xerxs mimarTaven, erovnuli

grZnobebis spekulacias ewevian

da nadavls ki radio `Tavisu-

flebis~ da zogierTi ucxouri

Jurnal-gazeTis WuWyian bazarze

ezidebian gasasaReblad.

da es arc aris SemTxveviTi...

yvela qarTvelisTvis, vinc z.

gamsaxurdias cotad Tu bevrad

axlos icnobs, naTelia, rom es

fsevdointeligenti vaJbato-

ni `siyrmiT TvisiTganve~ gamou-

sworebeli xuligani, gvarianad

gawvrTnili SantaJisti da daxe-

lovnebuli provokatoria. misi

moqmedebis mTavari iaraRia me-

mkvidreobiT darCenili fuli da

garecxili sindisi. nebivrobaSi,

usaqmurobaSi gazrdili, mamis

avtoritets Sexiznuli, erisa da

eklesiis cru patrioti, Tavisi

`erovnuli moRvaweobis~ kredos

mxolod masSi xedavs, rom sxvaTa

saqmeebSi _ risic ar gaegeba ra _

xeli afaTuros, sasurveli in-

formaciebi Cxrikos da moiZios,

Worebi gaavrcelos, alalmarTal

xalxs saxeli wauxdinos, sxvaTa

damcirebiTa da SeuracxyofiT

sakuTar gandidebaze iocnebos,

znedacemuli pirebi moqrTamos,

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Seawrialos, imuqros, ilanZRos

da yovelive amasTan erTad hu-

manistisa da adamianis uflebaTa

damcvelis saxeli daiCemos. sad,

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taJi Tu diversia da provokacia

erTmaneTTan Tavsdebodes, erT-

maneTs ergebodes. sad gagonila,

adamianis uflebaTa da Rirseba-

Ta pirveli xelmyofeli sxvaTa

uflebaTa dacvaze zrunavdes?!

amaze Sors xom ver wava veraviTa-

ri cinizmi da aramzadoba.

mis mier fuliT mosyiduli

valentina failoZe es ramdeni-

me welia eklesiidan eklesiaSi,

qalaqidan qalaqSi daiareba da

Worebsa da mavne xmebs avrcele-

bs. z.gamsaxurdias `ganaTlebu-

90 cxeli Sokoladi

ar moeloda, Tu misi mamis Svils

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qarTuli eklesiis am aramki-

Txe veqilma saqme iqamde miiyvana,

rom inglisurma gazeTma `taims-

ma~ kamaTi gamarTa saqarTvelos

eklesiaze. alaparaka mteri da

moyvare. cnobilma ingliselma

qarTvelologma, qarTuli kul-

turis megobarma d. langma da fu-

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galanZRuli qarTuli eklesiis

avtoriteti daicves. z. gamsaxur-

dias Soreuli kolegebi _ kli-

ford longli da piter redevei

mis mier Tbilisidan miwodebuli

`masalebisa~ da `dokumentebis~

safuZvelze Tavisas amtkiceben,

Tavisas gahyvirian, mouwodeben,

rom saqarTveloSi arsebuli `Za-

lebi, romlebic cdiloben ekle-

siis ganaxlebas, eZeben da saWiro-

eben sazogadoebriobis Carevas~.

z. gamsaxurdiam `ganaxlebis

azri~ saqarTvelos eklesiisa jer

kidev 1968 wels gamoamJRavna.

roca gansvenebuli kaTalikos-

patriarqi efrem meore Sveica-

riaSi brZandeboda gawveuli, man

xulignebis daxmarebiT eklesiaSi

ganxeTqilebis Camogdeba scada da

kaTalikosis gadayeneba moiTxova.

b. jalaRania, romelsac arcerTi

samRvdelo xarisxi ar hqonia, bo-

dbeSi gaamgzavra, wm.ninos safla-

vze daaCoqa da Tavi episkoposad

gamoacxadebina. iq mas suraTi ga-

dauRes, negativSi `episkoposis~

Tavs gvirgvini Semoavles da da-

mzadebul fotos gulubryvilo

morwmuneebSi daatarebinebda: ka-

nonieri episkoposia, suli wmidis

naTelSi imyofebao. zviads Cana-

fiqri ver gaumarTlda.sinodma

saqme gamoiZia da ramdenime piri

qristianobidan gankveTa kidec.

b. jalaRaniasTan Sercxvenil-ga-

mtyunebulma z.gamsaxurdiam isRa

moaxerxa, rom `episkoposi~ binaSi

Caiwera da Tavisi akademikosi ma-

mis mdivnad gamoacxada. `visac as-

men yurni smenad ismineT”... raxan

mTeli gegmebi CaefuSa da veRarc

is daamtkica, rom wmindanis sa-

flavze mRvdelmTavrobis xaris-

xis miReba SeiZleba qirotoniis

gareSe, pirSi `Calagamovlebuli~

daSorda eklesias da xelsayrel

moments daeloda, verc amisTvis

sanatrelma momentma _ efrem me-

oris gardacvalebam uSvela ra,

javrmoreuli, es ramdenime welia,

mavne pirebis daxmarebiT, ucxour

radiosa da presas yalb infor-

macias awvdis da am ukanasknelis

saSualebiT mtersa da moyvares

gasZaxis _ saqarTvelos eklesia-

Si sruli anarqiaa, absoluturi

uwesrigoba sufevso.

ucxour presaSi atexilma

xmaurma daainteresa da CvenTan

Camoiyvana amerikul gazeT `kris-

Cen saiens monitoris~ yofili

moskoveli korespondenti elisa-

bed pondi. Jurnalisti qali, ro-

melmac moismina saqmis realuri

viTareba, gakvirvebuli da gaoce-

buli gabrunda ukan.

z. gamsaxurdias oinebsa da xri-

kebs dasasruli ara aqvs. misi

saeklesio `ganmaxlebloba~ esaa

mxolod da mxolod seqtanti ka-

rieristisa da renegatis binZuri

saqme, romelsac xalxi ar aacdens

kaenis wyevlasa da iudas sir-

cxvils. an rogor SeiZleba dala-

gebul morwmuned CaiTvalos is,

vinc caTa umaRles da angelos-

Ta uwmindes RvTismSobels erT

Tavis CiqorTul leqsSi ase mi-

marTavs: `dao da dedao~. gadavi-

kiTxoT qristianul sagalobelTa

oriaTaswliani krebuli, Tu sadme

amis msgavsi aRmoCndeba. es xom

gaugonari mkrexeloba da anaTe-

maze gadasacemi fanatizmia. sxvas

rom Tavi davaneboT, marto amis

Semdeg gana an moralurad, an iu-

ridiulad xelewifeba am vaigana-

Tlebul RvTismetyvels saerTod

eklesiaze laparaki? saqarTelos

eklesia jer ar dacemula da arc

arasodes damdabldeba ise, rom

viRac paranoikebis dacva da mxar-

Si amodgoma dasWirdes mas.

arqividan

`es yvelafris

mkadrebeli

maniakebi, romelTac

mamuliSvilobisa da

keTilmorwmuneobis

niRabs amofarebuli

zviad gamsaxurdia

meTaveobs,

TvalTmaqcoben,

binZur xerxs

mimarTaven,

erovnuli grZnobebis

spekulacias ewevian

da nadavls ki radio

`Tavisuflebis~

da zogierTi

ucxouri Jurnal-

gazeTis WuWyian

bazarze ezidebian

gasasaReblad.~

cxeli Sokoladi 91

vskis~ dasrulebis Semdeg reJisor-

ma ganacxada, rom ver daabralebs

rusul specsamsaxurebs verafers

sanam gamoZieba ar dasruldeba, Ta-

vad filmi qmnis Tavisebur suraTs

sruliad ruseTisa, romelic ara

marto xodorkovskis, aramed sura-

Tis avtorsac ̀ ebrZvis~ _ ar aZlevs

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rusul sazogadoebas, garda xo-

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rusuli filmis premieris Semdeg

`Hollywood Reporter~-is popularul-

ma mimomxilvelma debora iangma,

mindaZis suraTs vrceli recenzia

miuZRvna: `SeiZleboda kargi fil-

mi gvenaxa katastrofaze, magram

miviReT apaTiis damangreveli kv-

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arada `SabaTs~ ara marto sainte-

reso ̀ kvlevaa~ adamianisa, romelic

sasazRvro situaciaSia moqceuli,

aramed saintereso mxatvruli namu-

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SesaniSnavi samsaxiobo ansambli

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uTuod amave mizeziT Cavarda

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Tavidan acilebis mizniT, vera da

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vis uSvelos _ mxolod sakuTa-

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saocaria, magram filmis Cvene-

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res axlad damTavrebuli filmis,

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magram vendersis filmi yvela-

nair daRlilobas xsnis da kidev

erTxel garwmunebT, rom karg fil-

mze daZineba SeuZlebelia. rogorc

ar unda iyoT daRlili! imaSic ga-

rwmunebT, rom teqnikas araviTari

mniSvneloba ara aqvs, roca films

niWieri adamiani iRebs. `pinas~ yu-

rebis dros arc saTvale gaxsovs

da arc 3D-s SesaZleblobebi.

vim vendersma `pinas~ gadaReba

2005 wels gadawyvita. magram ga-

daReba ramdenjerme gadaido. 68

wlis qoreografis gardacvaleba

Soki iyo vendersisTvis. man maSin-

ve Tqva uari proeqtze, romelic

dawyebuli hqonda. mogvianebiT

isev pina bauSis dasis msaxiobebma

aiZules gaegrZelebinma gadaReba.

vendersis filmSi isini ara marto

cekvaven, aramed ixseben kidec pi-

nas. oRond ar laparakoben. Tvale-

bSi gviyureben. maTi xma ki kadrs

garedan ismis.

baletis ekranizacia yovelTvis

rTuli iyo _ kinom ver SeZlo

mTeli scenis `simulanturi~ ga-

daReba. ekrani mudmivad `abrtye-

lebda~ cekvas. aq ki, vendersis

filmSi, kinom ara marto Seinaxa

qoreografiuli sivrce, ukvdaveba

SesZina pinas namuSevrebs, aramed

kidev ufro plastikuri gaxada.

ar vici, SeiZleba vcodav, amas rom

vaRiareb, magram ratomRac mgo-

nia, rom pina bauSis speqtaklebi

TeatrSi Cemze ar datovebda iseT

STabeWdilebas, rogorc vendersis

filmSi. kameras aqvs unari _ axlo-

dan dagvanaxos adamianis sxeuli,

misi saxe, misi Tvalebi, misi mze-

ra. aRbeWdos mzeris moZraoba da

ubralod, Segvayvaros es adamiani.

kinoreJisorebi, romlebic kinos am

SesaZleblobas ar iyeneben, ubra-

lod, mizantropebi arian.

sabednierod, wlevandelma ber-

linalem da piradad Jiuris Ta-

vmjdomarem, izabela roselinim

daamtkices, rom aseT mizantro-

pul kinematografs isini mxars ar

uWeren. berlinSi gaimarjva sico-

cxliT da adamianis siyvaruliT sa-

vse filmma.

`roselini irCevs sicocxles!~ _

ase daarqva fransua triufom Tavis

statia-margalits roberto rose-

linize. samgverdian werils, ro-

melic piradad CemTvis kinokriti-

kis etalonia. iraneli reJisoris,

ashar farhadis filmSi `naderi da

simini. ganqorwineba~, izabela ro-

selini uTuod amoikiTxavda Ta-

vis bavSvobas (ingrid bergmanis da

roberto roselinis qaliSvilis

Tvalwin grZeldeboda ganqorwine-

buli mSoblebis gauTavebeli dava

Svilebze, qonebaze, filmebis sa-

avtoro uflebebze); suraTi xom

ganqorwinebis sceniT iwyeba da mTa-

vrdeba...aseve ganqorwinebis sce-

niT. finalSi 15 wlis gogonam unda

gadawyvitos visTan rCeba _ dedas-

Tan Tu mamasTan. `diax, me miviRe

gadawyvetileba~ _ eubneba gogona

mosamarTles. magram gadawyveti-

lebis Tqma uWirs. iTxovs, rom mSo-

blebi gareT gavidnen, mosacdelSi

daelodon. gadian da kamerac maT

mihyveba. mSoblebi icdian. ekranze

Cndeba filmis finaluri kadrebi...

manamde ki filmSi uamravi ram

xdeba _ ojaxur dramaSi, faqto-

brivad, mTeli Tanamedrove iranu-

li sazogadoeba ixateba; iranuli

kinosTvis damaxasiaTebel stilis-

tur siZunwes da reportaJulobas,

portretebis siyvaruls (adamianis

siyvaruls!), emateba religiuri

crurwmenebis, iranuli marTlmsa-

julebis mZafri kritikac. Tumca

aq _ da esec iranuli kinosTvisaa

damaxasiaTebeli _ yvelas Tavisi

simarTle aqvs. dasavluri `publi-

cisturi kinosgan~ gansxvavebiT,

mamxilebeli toni sruliad ucxoa

iranuli kinosTvis. iqneb amitomac

akritikeben xSirad iranSi moRvawe

Tanamedrove reJisorebs... da iq-

neb amitomac hqonda berlinSi ga-

marjvebis naklebi Sansi farhadis.

wlevandeli festivali xom iranSi

dapatimrebuli reJisoris, jafar

fanahis solidarobiT daiwyo.. fes-

tivalis gaxsnaze carieli skamic ki

dadges warweriT `fanahi~ imis aRsa-

niSnavad, rom Jiuris wevri (!), ja-

far fanahi aq iyo, `berlinaleze~...

da Tuki fanahi cixeSia, Tuki uamrav

iranel reJisors kinoSi muSaobas

ukrZalaven, ratom unda daeWira

mxari `berlinales~ reJisorisTvis,

romelmac mainc moaxerxa kinos ga-

daReba. Tanac, kinosi, romelSic

pirdapir ar adanaSaulebs iranis

dRevandel xelisuflebas da, ro-

gorc Cveni mizantropi-inteleqtu-

alebi ityvian, `arc mwvads wvavs da

arc Samfurs~

magram iranuli filmi piradad

CemTvis moulodnelad berlinis

kinofestivalis namdvili triu-

mfatori gaxda. `berlinales~ is-

toriaSi, Tu ar vcdebi ar yofi-

la SemTxveva, erTi filmi TiTqmis

yvela `daTviT~ aReniSnaT. magram

Jiurim gariska _ eqvs msaxiobs (!)

dauriga `vercxlis daTvebi~, Tavad

filmi ki `oqros daTviT~ aRniSna.

amiT ara marto solidaroba gamou-

cxada iranul kinos (`solidaroba~,

saerTod, berlinis kinofestivalis

ideaa. SarSan `berlinalem~ roman

polanskis gamoucxada solidaro-

ba), aramed Riad aRiara, rom wle-

vandeli berlinis kinoforumi iyo

katastrofulad cudi festivali.

sakonkurso programa ar vargoda.

isic aRiara, rom `winaaRmdegobis

energia~, rogorc wesi, progress

ganapirobebs xelovnebaSi. im qveya-

naSi, sadac cenzuram lamis xelo-

vanis sunTqva gaakontrolos, ufro

Tamam da saintereso filmebs iRe-

ben, vidre Tavisufal qveynebSi.. iq,

sadac xelovans marwuxebi daades,

sicocxleze iReben kinos. iq ki,

sadac Tavisufleba mopovebulia,

moaxloebuli apokalifsis Tema

awuxebT, apokalifsisa, romelic

sruliad mizantropuli samyaros

molodinis miuxedavad, ara da ar

xdeba.

gagrZeleba

94 cxeli Sokoladi

<<< dasawyisi gv. 48

wiTeli zRva Zalian mlaSea, Tva-

lebs wvavs, da gamSralze kani rom

moiloko, sasa gewvis. axla yvelafe-

ri wiTeli maqvs _ Tavi, kani, Tvale-

bi. lamazi var, ai, Zaan.

silamazis ambavSi: kaba viyide.

ici, ra kargia? gugam miTxra, rom

Zalian mixdeba, da mec ase mgonia.

Tu gnaxav odesme (saeWvoa; aq komen-

dantis saaTia, sahaero sivrce Cake-

tes da, albaT, rame karieri melis.

ixile „sivaSi anu marilis akvani“, an

„aWameT xufus niangs“. ana k.s.) da

metyvi, rom ar varga, gadavagdeb,

magram ar metyvi, imitom, rom mar-

Tla mixdeba.

kai, movrCi weras da daviwye ki-

Txva. gamagiJebs es saragosas xel-

naweri. amdeni uSedego seqsi, odnav

qalwuli da naxevrad orsuli arsad

Semxvedria. da kacebi kide, sul rom

Secdenilebi arian, Torem TviTon?

apapapa! eg ram mafiqrebina!

ana k.s.

CHUB CHUBS ARE COMING!30.01.11

dRes kaxim CayvinTa da wiTeli

zRvidan saocreba amoitana. marja-

nia. vaglax, ver Camovitan _ kontra-

bandad iTvleba da sazRvarze Sei-

Zleba Tavi momaWamon, floras (Tu

faunas) gvinadgurebo.

wyalqveS didi ambavia. Zalian la-

mazia, oRond me cota mafrTxoben

cisferi Tevzebic, cocxali meCe-

Cebic da zRvis zRarbebic. rom mi-

curav, sul viRacis samflobeloSi

iWrebi, da isini an brazdebian da

fers icvlian, an eSiniaT da imale-

bian, an sulac SeiZleba Semogition

_ amas gadavrCi. magram viRacebi

mainc sul gedebian, an Sen edebi,

raRacas butbuteben da ver igeb, sa-

lams geubnebian Tu dedas gagineben

_ mokled, sxvagan xar, yvela Tval-

sazrisiT. metismetad cocxalia es

wiTeli zRva.

qarTveli damsveneblebi, me mgoni,

verc napirze xaroben, rac Zalian

marTobs. taba haiTsis momsaxure

personals gaficva gamoucxadebiao

_ tyuili. tabaSi ajanyebulebi Se-

sulano _ tyuili. egviptis sahaero

sivrce Caketiliao _ es ki marTalia

da vaSa!!! mTavaria, saqarTveloSi

vadaze adre ar damabrunon. erTia,

rom amanSic gadatrialebis suni da-

trialda, da vifiqreT, rom petras

sizmarSi Tu vnaxavT, magram borani

mainc dadis iqiT-aqeT da sad Cavr-

Cebi monad, iordaniaSi Tu egvip-

teSi, bolos da bolos, sul erTi

araa?

saTaurs rac Seexeba _ gaxsovs,

animacia gaCvene, piqsarebis. hoda,

aqac amboben, modiano. vnaxoT. raRa

dagimalo da ar medardeba. ar min-

da politika. mze minda, Cemo kar-

go, zRva da siyvaruli. kai kacoo,

ityvi, da marTalic iqnebi, magram

minda da ha...

ana k.s.

xamsa, aSara

31.01.11

xamsa arabulad xuTs niSnavs, aSa-

ra _ aTs. sanapiroze beduini dgas

xolme, aqlemiT saqoneli aqvs mota-

nili, da aTasgvar sisuleles hyi-

dis: Tavsafrebs, Tilismebs, Taba-

Siris katebs... misTvis ori ricxvi

arsebobs mxolod, zemoT xsenebuli

xamsa da aSara. Tu didxans ar eS-

vebian, aSaradan xamsamde Camodis

xolme, esaa da es.

dRes, rogorc gugam Tqva, bedui-

ni da misi aqlemi isvenebdnen, da

maT magivrad beduinis coli movi-

da. igive saqoneli mozida, oRond

uaqlemod. es pirveli arabi qalia,

romelsac aq xma gaveci. meTqi (es-

peranto; qals arcerTi ena ar eyu-

reba), arafris yidvas ar vapireb.

me megona, rom miTxra, nurc iyidi,

daaTvaliereo, da vaTvaliere, meti

ra saqme mqonda. damSvidobebisas ki

qalma damistvina _ gavSeSdi! _ da

helo, baroneso, da siciliT mokvda.

rogorc Cans, marTalia brZeni

xalxi _ survilebs asruleba sCve-

viaT. amqveynad yvelaferze metad

mogzauroba miyvars, mudam gzaSi

mindoda yofna, da amas didi Sim-

Silis Jamsac vaxerxebdi _ ris fa-

sad, sxva sakiTxia, magram mindoda

da sul davdiodi. albaT, aseTive

SemarTebiT rom menatra simdidre,

Svilebi da kariera, amasac miviRe-

bdi. ubralod, albaT, arasodes mi-

natria. kargia es Tu cudi, ar vici.

ra momwons xolme, ici? ai, grZel

gzaze rom midixar da aravin rom ar

icis, sad xar. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom

aseT dros saerTod arsad ara xar,

ara? arada, xar romelia _ yovel

SemTxvevaSi, me yvelaze cocxali

am dros var xolme. vax, ver vaya-

libeb...

tabadan, siyvaruliT

gagrZeleba

cxeli Sokoladi 95

gagrZeleba

hoda, xval petraSi mivdivarT me

da guga, gemiT. fasze gvayayanes, aq

aSar-xamsa ar Wrida, da amieridan

cal-cali aziackiT mogviwevs sia-

ruli.

ana k.s.

wvima udabnoSi

1.02.11

versadac ver wavediT. wuxel mo-

gvaxsenes, rom sazRvarze raRac

gaugebroba moxda da amitom mxo-

lod xval gavemgzavrebiT. hoda,

RamiT, dardian gulze, sabolood

gamovSterdiT.

kaxi hyveboda hurgadas SesaniS-

navi sastumros, „mina marketis“

ambavs. „kai adgilia, ai, Zaan!“ da

hyveboda da hyveboda, da guga „vai-

me, dedas“ kvnesoda, me _ verafers,

saSineli kaxi ki ar Cumdeboda: „zR-

vamde midixar jer metroTi, mere _

avtobusiT, mere beduini wagiyvans

da magrad dagRlis...“ vaime, deda.

axali wigni movipove. begbede-

ri. kaci _ janki, loTi, aferisti,

pornostari, colis mcemeli. vnaxav,

ha...

samagierod, dRes zRvaSi iseTi

rameebi vnaxe, axlac ver vijereb,

rom sizmari ar iyo: iisferi marja-

ni, oqrosferi lodebis napralebSi

_ pirdaRebuli niJarebi, Sig vi-

Racebi cxovroben da rom Seexebi,

umalve xuraven TavianT saxl-kars _

aba, niJara? qva var, mama, qva! magram

mere cud adgilas movxvdi da imden

zRarbs gadaveyare, sul wyalze via-

re.

mere kaxim daiyvira, naxe, ramxe-

laao, da ku vnaxeT. Zalian didi. me

rom bakani damadga da wyalSi gamiS-

va, da didi, brtyeli Tavi rom mqon-

des, gesiamovneba CemTan Sexvedra?

hoda, arc me meama didad, da morCa,

Rrmad aRar Seval.

axla wvims. marTla! samwuTiani

intervalebiT cidan wveTebi cviva,

aqauri gagebiT, warRvnaa. Citma am-

bavi moitana, hurgadaSi yvela reisi

gaauqmes da SarmSi savaWro centri

aafeTqeso. Citi erTi aqauri vaJka-

cia, romelmac mTeli Tavisi egvip-

turi fuli dolarebad aqcia da

aSkarad gakurcxvlas apirebs. Tu

marTla asea, meCeCze gaviyvanT da

mere saudis arabeTSi ikvlion, visi

gvami gamoriya zRvam...

nosrum men allah! egeb erTi TviT

mainc CavrCeT am Tbil mxareSi.

ana k.s.

А ВОТ У АРЧИ И КАРМА ЧТО ДХАРМА...(vika moskovceva ana k.s.-s

Sesaxeb, moskovi, 1997 weli)

2.02.11

SuaRamisas israelis Tavze Weqa-

quxili atyda. zRvis piras videqi

da Sav wyalze TeTr talRebs vuyu-

rebdi. iqiT ca naTdeboda, Zalian

xSirad, da kldeebi Canda, da vfi-

qrobdi, rom axla Tazos awvims da

me amas vxedav, oRond iman ar icis,

rom vxedav, da misgan ormoc wuTSi

var da verc vinaxuleb, verc xmas

mivawvden, da saSinlad momenatra

Tazo.

dRes mivxvdi, rom ver mivxvdi,

momewona begbederi Tu _ ara. wigni

ki uceb Cavylape, magram egre don-

covas deteqtivebic uxvad wamiki-

Txavs, da ra, kargia? auzis piras

vkiTxulobdi frederikis rekomen-

daciebs, rogor unda mixvde auzis

piras, Rirs Tu ara vinme qalTan

urTierToba, da bevri vicine. eg

iyo da eg. mokled, begbederi aSka-

rad araa Cemi sayvareli mwerali. an

mTargmneli hyavs uvargisi.

„tupaila,“ daaskvna kaxim.

„tupala,“ daazusta gugam.

ax, ra kargad var! da kidev ram-

denime dRe kargad viqnebi _ wesiT.

mZinavs, xan _ zezeulad, xan _ mze-

ze, xan _ SiSabarSi. araferi mexeba.

roca miTxres, rom SenTvis ganku-

Tvnili saCuqari aq unda davtovo,

imitom, rom kontrabandad iTvleba,

aravin gamilanZRavs, arxeinad dava-

brune zRvaSi, da mere gamyidvels

imdenxans vuyure netari saxiT, da

kaxim imdeni arabuli daxarja, rom

axla imaze ukeTesi ram momaqvs Sen-

Tvis.

egvipteSi samoqalaqo omi iwyeba.

mogviwodes, wadiT aqedano, magram

sad wavalT: marjvniv _ udabno, mar-

cxniv _ udabno, win _ kldeebi, ukan

_ zRva. amitom vsxedvarT mzeze,

vTvlemT, an sisuleleebs vyvebiT

da viciniT, cota giJebiviT.

egec aRara?!

axla karg sizmrebs vnaxav da xval

alions zRvaze Sevxvdebi, boranze.

ise, egec kacma ar icis. amboben,

iordaniaSi saxelmwifo gadatria-

lebaa.

ana k.s.

morCa

3.02.11

morCa egvipturi Rameebi, Wreli

Tevzebi da qviSaSi Zili. qarTveli

qalebis daJinebuli moTxovnisa da

ramdenime gurji vaJkacis sajarod

waxdenis Sedegad, xval alionze

wamovvardebi Cemi didi, lamazi,

TeTri loginidan, da ise, rom zR-

vaSi fexsac ver Cavyof, waval aero-

portSi, sadac ramdenime, ara, bevri

saaTis ganmavlobaSi TviTmfrinavis

lodini, TanamemamuleTa atana da

udabnos cqera momiwevs. mere _ sa-

mSoblo.

arada, saRamos, iordaniidan rom

vbrundebodiT, vfiqrobdi, rom

dRevandel dRes „al Saras wyalo-

bas“ davarqmevdi. mere giambob, ra-

tomac _ ra Tqma unda, Tu mogin-

deba. ise, ra sasacilo mimowera,

ufro sworad, (mi)miwera gvqonda am

civ zamTarSi Tavs datexili cxeli

zafxulis ganmavlobaSi!

arada, Tormeti dRe unda yofi-

liyo.

„ra poeturi xar,“ _ metyoda kaxi,

bolo ori winadadeba rom waekiTxa.

_ „ ai, Zaan!“

qviSa unda Camovibano. rom davdi-

var, ismis, rogor mcviva...

ana k.s.

P.S. ar ici, qarTvelebi ras lapa-

rakoben! neta aeroportSi bedui-

nebi Semocvivdnen, amaT autrialon

mkvdar-cocxali. oTxi dRiT adre

arasodes arsaidan ar davbrunebul-

var (sammagi uaryofa! yoCaR, ana!),

da naxe, ra, ramdeni gamibedes!!!

96 cxeli Sokoladi

gagrZeleba

<<< dasawyisi gv. 76

sartri 1945 wlidan niu-iorkSia,

msaxiob dolores vaneta erenrai-

xiT gatacebuli. simon de bovuari

ki _ nelson olgrens Sexvda. ganu-

meorebeli qaliT moxibluli ame-

rikeli mwerali mas ojaxis Seqmnas

sTavazobs. es SeuZlebelia, radgan

parizSi klod lancmania, 17 wliT

umcrosi Jurnalisti, vinc asakis

siaveebiT SeSinebul qals Tavda-

viwyebiT uyvars.

1954 wels, roca romani `manda-

rinebi~ gonkuris priziT aRiniSna,

nelsoni gaognebuli darCa: Cemi

grZnobebis gansajaroebas veras-

dros warmovidgendio. vin icis, ra

Zalisxmeva dasWirda olgrenis da-

rwmunebas, rom mxatvrul nawarmoe-

bSi maTi urTierTobis ganzogadeba

scada da ara sarkiseburi asaxva.

am siyvarulis istoriam sazoga-

doebas Tavi mogvianebiTac Seaxse-

na, roca 1998 wels, bovuarisa da

amerikeli mwerlis piradi mimowera

gamoqveynda saTauriT `transatlan-

tikuri siyvaruli~. aq mkiTxveli ab-

soluturad miwier simon de bovuars

eziareba: ojaxze, saxlis zRurbl-

Tan momlodine sayvarel adamian-

ze meocnebes, romelic adresats

xSirad `qmarsac~ ki uwodebs. `...me

ZilSiac gelodebi, Cemi guli savsea

dauokebeli survilebiT, romlebic

sixaruls maniWebs, radgan vici, rom

Senc imaves ganicdi. Rame mSvidobi-

sa, sayvarelo, ra nazia Cemi Sendami

siyvaruli am saRamos..~ samasze meti

werilis wakiTxvis Semdegac gaqvs

gancda, rom es viRac sxvaa da ara is,

visac manamde meamboxe da mouxelTe-

bel qalad icnobdi.

mogzauroba da Zieba, wvdoma da aR-

moCena, samyaros mravalferovnebas-

Tan ziareba _ es is sakvebia, romelic

simon de bovuars epistomologiur

SimSils ukmayofilebs. mas alJiri,

brazilia, israeli, italia, kuba da

sabWoTa kavSiri erTnairad ainte-

resebs. magram socialuri moZraoba,

sazogadoebrivi an pirovnuli ambo-

xi mis guls da gonebas yvelaze me-

tad axarebs: nuTu adamiani yvelgan

Tavisuflebas eswrafvis, angrevs

da aSenebs, uaryofs da amkvidrebs,

nuTu sabWoTa disidentebs, radikal-

memarcxene, maoist axalgazrdebs,

abortis legalizaciis moTxovniT

gamosul qalebs, frang studentebs,

ungrel antisabWoTa aqtivistebs da

ernesto Ce gevaras erTi da igive

neba amoZravebs? diax, asea!. `adamia-

nis cxovreba ar kargavs azrs manam,

sanam mas siyvaruliT, megobrobiT,

TanagrZnobiT da usamarTlobis wina-

aRmdeg protestiT sxvebis cxovreba-

Si sazrisis Setana SeuZlia. adamiani

mxolod sxvebis TavisuflebiT Sei-

Zleba gaxdes Tavisufali~, _ ambobs

simon de bovuari da sartrTan er-

Tad aseTi adamianebis zogjer sust,

ganwirul suliskveTebas sakuTar

xmas uerTebs.

1963 wels sabWoTa kavSirSic `yi-

nulis lRobis~ procesze dakvrvebis

survilma Camoiyvana. igi da sartri

saqarTvelos 5 seqtembers estumr-

nen. yvelaferi moskovSi Sedgenili,

`Tvalis amxvevi~ protokolis mi-

xedviT xdeboda: mcxeTa, muzeumebi

da kolmeurneoba moatares, magram

axalgazrda filosofosebTan Sexve-

draze uari uTxres. maTTvis naTeli

gaxda, rom am qveyanaSi saimedo Zvre-

bi Zalian igvianebda: marTalia Tva-

lebi ar mivarga, magram brma ar var

da maRaziebis vitrinebic davinaxe

da puris rigebic _ uTxra sartrma

mzia baqraZes, romelic misi da bo-

vuaris megobari iyo da Tbilisuri

dReebi maTTan erTad gaatara. manve

araCveulebrivad aRwera sakuTari

dakvirveba, romelmac Cemze Zalian

imoqmeda:

`... maT yovelTvis jer cal-calke

vxvdebodi, jer bovuars, Semdeg ki

sartrs. xSirad erTi da igive Seki-

Txvebs vusvamdi. Zalian vnanob, rom

imxanad diqtofoni ar gamaCnda Cveni

saubrebis Casawerad. ufro sworad,

maTi pasuxebis aRsabeWdad firze.

es pasuxebi Cawerili rom yofi-

liyo, CanawerebSi msmeneli qalisa

da mamakacis xmebs, cxadia, gaarCe-

vdi, intonacias, xmis tembrs, magram

rac Seexeba maTi pasuxebis Sinaarss,

mosazreba iqneboda Tu rCeva, pro-

blemis axsna Tu argumentebis lo-

gika, nawarmoebTa, personaJebisa Tu

mwerlebis mimarT maTi damokidebu-

leba, yvelaferi zustad erTnairi

hqondaT. erTnairad azrovnebdnen,

erTnair daskvnebs akeTebdnen, erT-

nairad uyurebdnen ama Tu im sakiTxs

ise, rogorc tyupebs erTmaneTisgan

xSirad ver arCeven, maTi gonebac da

azrovnebac wylis ori wveTiviT hga-

vda erTmaneTs~ (mzia baqraZe `dau-

viwyar mogonebaTa ramdenime epizo-

di~, gazeTi `Cveni mwerloba~, 19-26

aprili, 2002).

daSoreba da sikvdili

60-ian wlebSi Jan-pol sartris

cxovrebaSi axali siyvaruli, or-

leta elkaimi gamoCnda, romelic

mogvianebiT filosofosma iSvila

kidec da memkvidredac aRiara. ambo-

cxeli Sokoladi 97

gagrZeleba

Zvelad menstruaciis begara ma-

makacebs hqoniaT gadasaxdeli da

sisxli iRliebidan mosdiodaT

Turme. amboben, viTom amis niSa-

niao, rom kacebs nametani Tmiani

iRliebi aqvT da sul efxanebaT,

amitomac iglijaven bewvs. am dros

Turme kacebi iRliebSi gogras ima-

grebdnen da sisxli iq Caedineboda.

axla qalebi nabdis naWrebs iyene-

ben sisxlis Sesakaveblad.

isini dResac wyevla-krulvas

ugzavnian im pirvel qals, vinc es

wesi kacebidan qalebze gadmoitana.

es ambavi ase yofila: Zvelad sva-

neTs bevri mteri hyolia da Ta-

vadac bevrs mtrobda, sul SiSSi

cxovrobda da iqiTac bevrs aSine-

bda Turme. ufro metad yabardo-

balyarelebs da svanebs hqoniaT

urTierTqiSpoba, kvla da warTme-

va. erT dros yabardo-balyarele-

bs Tavkacad mirzabegi hyoliaT. is

iseTi avismqneli da marjve yofi-

la, rom RamiT, mZinare qalebs ba-

vSvebs akvnianad hparavda da itace-

bda. Svilebs dedebi `mirzabegiT~

aSinebdnen Turme. rogorc ki am sa-

xels gaigebdnen mtirala bavSvebi,

maSinve xmas Caigdebdnen.

am mirzabegma Seityo Turme, rom

erT sofelSi yvela kacs menstru-

acia hqonda. dro SearCia da Tavi-

si jariT Seuxta maT. kacebisTvis,

TavianTi mdgomareobis gamo, gareT

gamosvla ar SeiZleboda. mtrebma

Seagroves am soflis yvela sulie-

ri, yvela sikeTe, qali da bavSvi da

Tan waasxes. am ubedurebas erTi

qali gadarCenila da uyurebda,

rogor mierekebodnen momxdurni

Tavisianebs.

muxlebze dacemula maSin qali

da mariamisTvis uTxovia: `madlia-

no mariam, Seibrale qristiani ada-

mianebi, kacebs menstruacia moaci-

le da me dammarTe!~

mariams Seusmenia mudara: kace-

bi gankurnebulan da qals Sehyria

maTi seni. igive damarTniaT da-

tyvevebul qalebsac. es rom yabar-

do-balyarelebs SeutyviaT, Sezi-

zRebiaT qalebi da dautovebiaT.

amasobaSi gankurnebulma kacebma

aisxes TavianTi Tof-xanjali, dae-

devnen mters, amowyvites da mTeli

nadavli daatovebines.

amis Semdeg iqca Turme menstru-

acia `qalebis wesad~.

2.

mTel qveynierebaze yvelgan qa-

lebs menstruacia emarTebaT. ma-

gram svaneTSi igi sxva saxiT da

wesiT aris SeCveuli qalebze. es

begara yvela qalis saxadia da

arc esircxvilebaT iseve, rogorc

qmrisgan daorsuleba.

roca qals es begara sWirs, ma-

Sin igi erTi dRiT adre gaerideba

yvelas ukacriel saxlSi an ganmar-

toebiT mdgar sadgomSi. amiT yvela

xvdeboda, rom igi uwminduri iyo.

am sadgomSi, zamTarSi, bavSvebi mas

SeSas da kvars ugroveben cecxlis

dasanTebad, aseve moaqvT fetvis

an qeris Cala, Zvelmani nabadi da

rame zemodan dasafarebeli da am

yvelafers sadgomidan moSorebiT

alageben, rom uwminduroba ar ga-

daedoT da saxli ar Sebilwon.

ase iyo qali erTi kvira uka-

criel alagSi. saWmel-sasmels Tu

moutandnen, imasac ganze, Soria-

xlo alagebdnen. Tu sofelSi sxva-

sac sWirda es wesi, maSin qalebi

erTad Seiyrebodnen xolme.

sisxlis wamosvlidan mesame dRes,

pirvel pir wyals ivlebdnen, mexu-

Te dRes _ meore pirs. axla viTom

naklebad uwminduri iyo qali. ma-

gram saxlSi mainc ar SeiSveboda.

kviris Tavze mesame pir wyals iv-

lebda da saguldagulod banaobda.

amis Semdeg Sin brundeboda.

isec momxdara, rom meore piri

wylis gadavlebis Semdeg, qals misi

sayvareli daubarebia sadgomSi. ma-

gram Tu amas vinme Seityobda, na-

metani samarcxvino iyo svaneTSi.

aseT ymawvils Cxubis dros `uwmin-

duris sarecelis mowiles~ miaZaxe-

ben xolme.

Tu saxlSi uwminduria, maSin sa-

nadirod aravin midis, radgan mo-

nadires bedi ar swyalobs da ukan

xelcarieli brundeba. amis garda,

aseT saxlSi locvac ar vargoda,

radgan mlocvelis wadili gaqa-

rwyldeba da ar gaWris.

ratom emarTebaT qalebs `qalebis wesi~svanuridan Targmna lela gafrindaSvilma;

guCa filfanis TqmiT, 1940 wels svaneTSi Caiwera maqsime qaldanma.

ben, rom am saqcielma simon de bo-

vuari SeZra da sapasuxod silvia le

bonis Svilobiloba gadawyvita.

1980 wels sartri gardaicvala.

sul male ki frangi feministis

axali naSromi `gamomSvidobebis

ceremonia~ gamoqveynda, sadac vki-

Txulob: `misma sikvdilma Cven da-

gvaSora. Cemi sikvdili kvlav ver

SegvaerTebs. es ukve TavisTavad mS-

venieria, rom Cven ase xangrZlivad

SevZeliT harmoniulad gvecxovra~.

man ukve Seicno da ganicada sico-

cxle, gaiazra da SemoiCvia sikvdi-

li Tavis novelebSi: `yvela adamiani

mokvdavia~ (1946), `unazesi sikvdili~

(1964) da `sibere~ (1970). albaT, ami-

tom gadawyvita, _ parizis erTerT

saavadmyofoSi, sakuTar aRsasruls

marto Sexvedroda, mis ukvdavmyo-

fel eqsistencialur martoobaSi!

p.s. simon de bovuaris `meore sqesi~

male qarTulad gamova. mas franguli-

dan profesori mzia baqraZe Targmnis,

Tavisi ganumeorebeli megobrisadmi

didi pativiscemis niSnad. me ki maqvs

bedniereba wignis redaqtori viyo.

98 cxeli Sokoladi

gagrZeleba

<<< dasawyisi gv. 82

martivad: warmoidgineT, mixeil

saakaSvils rom Tavisnairi impul-

suri, myvirala da eqstravertu-

li coli hyavdes, an Tundac ise-

Ti, rogoric pirvel prezidents

hyavda, aqamde, darwmunebuli

var, imden sisuleles Caidenda es

qali, rom marto orjer ki ara,

aTjer SeverkinebodiT mis qmars.

politikaSi TavSeyofili colebi

metad saSiSni gaxlavan. istorias

gadaxedeT. frangebs lui meTeqvs-

meteze aranakleb sZuldaT sabra-

lo maria_antuaneta, rusebmac ni-

koloz meoris coli, aleqsandra

airCies TavianTi risxvis erT_erT

mTavar samizned (ras aRar abra-

lebdnen am dRedaRam mlocvel

qals _ rasputinis sayvarloba-

sac ki), musolini Tavis Zvirfas

klara petaCisTan erTad dahki-

des milanis `duomos~ win, xolo

CauSeskus cols Zalauflebisa

da fulis siyvaruli ar apaties

_ esec daxvrites. politikosTa

pativmoyvare colebi metismetad

cudad amTavreben. Cemi Tu ar

gjeraT, uiliam Seqspiris `makbe-

ti~ gadaikiTxeT. eduard Sevard-

naZis cols erTxel wamocda _

kargi diasaxlisi rva laradac ar-

Cens ojaxso _ da mis qmars lami-

saa gadadgomis dRemde aZaxebdnen

am sityvebs. ar vici, ratomaa ase,

magram xalxs arasdros aviwydeba

politikosis colis Secdomebi.

xalxi _ pirveli ledis mrisxane,

gulCaxveuli da dakvirvebuli

dedamTilia; Tuki raime sisule-

les moimoqmedebs, Tavdapirvelad

mdumared SeizizRebs (aba, Svils

{prezidents} xom ar dakargavs),

magram Tuki `sisuleleebi~ kvla-

vac gagrZeldeba, mere Svilsac

aRar daindobs, yvelafers iRo-

nebs, raTa saxlidan gaagdos (cxa-

dia, Tavad araviTar SemTxvevaSi

ar wava).

pirveli prezidentis colis

mTavar sisuleled misi saxel_gva-

ris gaCena mimaCnia saqarTvelos

damoukideblobis aqtze. am mci-

re, magram ucnaurma da damTr-

gunvelma detalma raRac saocari

simsxviliT gamoavlina preziden-

tisa da saxelmwifos ususuroba.

parlamentis wevri rom yofiliyo,

kidev ho, ityodi, ekuTvnis, magram

is rom ver dadginda, sinamdvile-

Si, ra iyo da ra undoda da mainc

Tavisi rom gahqonda yvelgan, ami-

tomac Seiqna metismetad saSiSad.

Tumca amJamad sruliad arasaSi-

Sia. mas Tavisi partia aqvs da, Tu

ar vcdebi, saqarTvelos ugvirgvi-

no premier_ministrad iTvleba.

misi politikuri brZolis meTo-

debi da stili SesaSurad unika-

luria. albaT, ar moiZebneba qvey-

nad politikuri partia, romelic

Tavis brZolis iaraRad iyenebdes

iseT Rrmad damabnevel movle-

nas, rogoric wyevlaa. esaa erTa-

derTi politikuri organizacia,

romelic iwyevleba. am sityvebis

damweri Tavad iqna maT mier or-

jer Serisxuli (Tumca meorejer

daviT kldiaSvilis Txzulebebi-

dan nasesxebi Selocva gamoiyena

Tavdacvis mizniT: `eg wyevla Sen

mogibrundes!~), xolo eqsprezi-

dent SevardnaZes, rogorc cno-

bilia, yoveldRe wyevlian misi

rezidenciis fanjrebTan. codva

gamxelili sjobs da barem aqve

vityvi, rom realurad es qalba-

toni Cemi premier_ministric ga-

xlavT. erTxel, ombudsmenis ofi-

sis magivrad SemTxveviT Sevabije

`mrgvali magidis~ partiis budeSi

(karebi ameria) da iqidan manam ver

gamovedi, sanam is ar vaRiare, ra-

sac Cemgan moiTxovdnen.

raebs aRar movawere xeli...

_ aRiarebT Tu ara q_n manana ar-

CvaZes saxelmwifos meTaurad?

_ diax, vaRiareb...

_ moawereT aq xeli...

_ aRiarebT Tu ara konstantine

gamsaxurdias msoflioSi saukeTe-

so mwerlad?

_ vaRiareb...

maxsovs, win SakikiT gatanju-

lebiviT, Sublze Sav naWerSemo-

xveuli ramdenime msuqani qali da

polieTilenis parkuWebiT xelda-

mSvenebuli (RmerTo, rogor meSi-

nia am `setkebis~), brazian_gaqu-

culi kaci gadamidga. Tumca, rac

marTalia, marTalia, im dRes ara-

vis davuwyevlivar, mxolod aRia-

rebebi waiRes Cemgan...

axla vfiqrob _ marTlac aseTi

saSiSebi iyvnen es adamianebi, Tu

me momeCvena? iqneb yvela Cveni

ubedureba Cvenive araswori reaq-

ciis Sedegia?

mogonebebi prezidentebze

cxeli Sokoladi 99

gagrZeleba

6is, Tu rogor da ras mauwyeblo-

bda Tbilisis pirveli arxi pre-

zidentis gandevnamde cota xniT

adre, erTdroulad komikuric iyo,

sevdianic da saSiSic. `Tbilisi~

mTavrobis saxlTan mdgomi avto-

busidan gadmoscemda gadacemebs,

ufro sworad, gadacemebi arc iyo

_ prezidenti, prezidentis gagiJe-

buli Tu jer mainc srul Wkuaze

myofi mxardamWerebi da mowyenili

qali_diqtorebi garkveuli ri-

giTobis mixedviT enacvlebodnen

erTmaneTs, SualedebSi ki `konte-

qstualuri~ filmebiT gvarTobd-

nen; magaliTad, `iulius keisariT~,

sadac markus_antoniusis finalur

monologSi qarTvel mayurebels

Tavisi qveynis momavali unda amo-

ekiTxa. efeqti marTlac STam-

beWdavi iyo: Tvalebi rom dagexuWa,

ifiqrebdi, rom markus_antoniusis

magivrad Temur qoriZe RaRadebs _

keisris mokvlis Semdeg romSi qa-

osi daisadgurebs... qveyana orad

gaiyofa... bolo ar moeReba omebs...

Tumca zogjer sruliad Sorde-

bodnen konteqsts da mocemuli vi-

TarebisTvis Seusabamo film_ope-

rebs gvayurebinebdnen. arasdros

damaviwydeba, rogor saubrobda

telebunkeridan budasaviT mSvidi

gogi niJaraZe verdis `rigoletos~

Sesaxeb. gareT ukve isrodnen, pre-

zidenti gasaqcevad emzadeboda,

saqarTveloSi ki mTel xmaze JRer-

da mantuis hercogis Questa o quella. rac ufro axlovdeboda meambo-

xeebis gamarjveba, miT ufro iste-

riulebi xdebodnen telebunkerSi

gamomsvlelebi. swored maSin Caa-

tara Tavisi bolo, sajaro da is-

teriuli qarTulis gakveTili ukve

moCveneba_molandebad qceulma gu-

ram petriaSvilma (`irine _ sworia,

irina _ araswori~), xolo viRacam

patriarqs mouwoda, Sua rusTavel-

ze gamosuliyo da sisxlismRvreli

omi gaeCerebina. kargad maxsovs, am

ucnaur SemoTavazebas ra pasuxi

mohyva eklesiidan: patriarqs gripi

aqvs {ver SegarigebTo}. Semdeg im

epoqis erTma tipurma gmirma_sa-

mxedrom metad brZnuli gegma gaax-

maura (am kacs miqelanjelos mose-

saviT moezarda wveri da `buSlata~

moecva): bombs mTavrobis sasaxle-

ze CamovagdebT da mTel sololaks

haerSi avwevTo. qalaqis danarCen,

prosaxelisuflebo nawilSi ki xma

gavarda, generalma epitaSvilma

(istorias aseTic axsovs) tankebiT

Caiara rusTavelis gamzirze da

iqauroba `putCistebisgan~ gaaTa-

visuflao (sxvaTa Soris, qalaqis

amave nawilSi gavrcelda Wori imis

Sesaxeb, rom xuntisTavi eqspremie-

ri sigua, arc meti, arc naklebi,

RrZilebSi iCxiravda nemsebs). am

da sxva ambebma naTlad dagvanaxes,

rom prezidentis momxreebs mxolo-

dRa mosawyeni Worebi SerCenodaT

tyvia_wamlad. xolo, Tuki zviad

gamsaxurdias erTi mxardamWeris

naambobs vendobiT, mas Semdeg miu-

tovebia kanonieri xelisuflebis

damcvelTa rigebi, roca Tavis Seki-

Txvaze _ awi raRa vqnaTo, _ prezi-

dents ase gaucia pasuxi: zeciuri

mxedrobis imedad unda viyoTo. ar

vici, zeciuri mxedrobidan ar wa-

movida sakmarisi iniciativa, Tu sa-

qarTvelos mxedrionSi aRmoCndnen

`zeciurebze~ magari biWebi, magram,

ase iyo Tu ise, prezidenti gaiqca.

mere ki marTlac yvelaferi ise

moxda, rogorc kinofilm `iulius

keisarSi~: gaxleCa, omebi da bolos

_ avgustusis gamefeba. erTader-

Ti gansxvaveba Cvensa da Zvel roms

Soris is iyo, rom yvelafer ubedu-

rebasTan erTad Cvens mosaxleobas

`delisis maniakis~ msgavsi fsiqo-

patebisganac uxdeboda Tavdacva _

yvela bnel sadarbazosa Tu miwis-

qveSa gadasasvlelSi TiTo maniaki

gveloda; samoqalaqo omis Tviseba

yofila adamianis maqciad qceva...

7ase dasrulda zviad gamsaxur-

dias pirveli da ukanaskneli sa-

prezidento vada (da ara sicocx-

le), Tumca, miuxedavad imisa, rom

istoriam nagvis amxela masa dagvi-

tova gadasarCevad da dasaxarisxe-

blad, Cemi azriT, es kaci mainc am

erTaderTi, SeiZleba iTqvas, misi

cxovrebis mTavari epizodiT Seva

oTxmocdaaTianebis xmauriani kaka-

foniis eqoebisgan daclil moma-

valSi: Tu rogor ixsnis saTvales _

uceb da nerviulad, _ rogor swevs

muStSemarTul xels maRla da ra

bednieri gamometyveleba aqvs, raki

wamnaxevriswin am sityvebis Tqmis

saSualeba mieca: `vacxadeb saqar-

Tvelos damoukideblobas...~

aseTi epizodic maxsendeba:

zustad am dRemde, anu damouki-

deblobis gamocxadebamde, sveti-

cxovelSi aRmovCndi Cems mSoble-

bTan erTad. winasaaRdgomo dReebi

iyo da imden xans davrCiT, rom

dagvaRamda kidec. ukve wamosvlas

vapirebdiT, magram uceb zviad ga-

msaxurdia movida Tavis SvilebTan

erTad da Cvenc SevyovndiT _ mis

saTvaliereblad davrCiT. maxso-

vs, rogor eziarnen da mere ro-

gor idga es kaci karga xnis ganma-

vlobaSi sanTliT xelSi erT_erT

xatTan; ecva veeberTela palto

da raRac ucnaurad irweoda. kon-

centrirebuli da mSvidi Canda.

ar minda, am mcire mogonebaSi pa-

Tetikuri tonebi wamcdes, magram

marTlac ase vnaxe cocxlad pir-

velad da ukanasknelad _ damouki-

deblobis gamocxadebamde sami Tu

oTxi dRiT adre _ locvis dros.

mas mere saqarTvelos prezidente-

bi mxolod televizorSi Tu mina-

xavs socialuri locvisas _ gada-

pranWuli episkoposebiT, pirquSi

dacvis biWebiT, JurnalistebiT,

operatorebiT, parlamentarebiTa

da Tavisi Tu sxvisi mrevliT gar-

Semortymulebi. maxsovs, gavifi-

qre kidec: ra Cveulebrivi adamia-

ni yofila da, Tan, absoluturad

arasaSiSi.

sxva prezidentebze Semdeg

nomrebSi

100 cxeli Sokoladi

gagrZeleba

<<< dasawyisi gv. 88

man, amrigad, Seuracxyo qarTveli

mwerlis saxeli, ramdenadac is daka-

vSirebulia am dokumentTan. yvelam

viciT, rom, es amasTan aris dakav-

Sirebuli. me mimaCnia, rom, ra Tqma

unda, zviadi ar SeiZleba iyos kavSi-

ris wevri.

Tavmjdomare _ ioseb!

ioseb noneSvili _ me miWirs roca

amas vlaparakob, roca am sakiTxze

vlaparakob imitom, rom vamayob kons-

tantine gamsaxurdiaTi, magram me vxe-

dav, rom faqtia es proklamacia, am

faSisti generlis ase erovnul gmi-

rad gamocxadeba. magram, rac mTava-

ria, zviadi brZanebs, rom Cemi dawe-

rili ar ariso da Cveni prezidiumis

wevrebs sxva wyaro ar gagvaCnia garda

imisa, rasac prokuratura gvwers,

rac presaSia, is, rac dRes `litera-

turul saqarTveloSia” dabeWdili.

me amaRelva saqarTvelos patriarqis

werilma, romelic `literaturul

saqarTveloSia“ dabeWdili. ekle-

siasac unda verwmunoT da proku-

raturasac, rom maT Seiswavles da

gvweren da Tu ki is Semdeg daadas-

turebs, daarwmunebs prokuraturas,

Cven yvelani gaxarebuli viqnebiT da

amovisunTqavT, rom am saqmeSi mas mo-

nawileoba ar miuRia _ arc faSisti

generlis qebasa da arc am proklama-

ciis SedgenaSi.

magram jerjerobiT eklesia,

prokuratura gvimtkicebs da ro-

gorc wesdebaSia, mweralTa kavSiris

wevri ar SeiZleba, iyos is, vinc ar

dgas Cvens, sabWoTa poziciaze.

amitom, me, rogorc sxvebma brZanes,

mimaCnia, rom mweralTa kavSiris we-

vri ar unda iyos is, vinc proklama-

cias avrcelebs da faSist generals

aqebs.

Tavmjdomare _ moris!

moris focxiSvili _ SeiZleba, game-

oreba momixdes imisa, rac ukve iTqva.

ver warmomedgina, rom Cvens wreSi,

mweralTa rigebSi da saerTod, Cvens

qveyanaSi aRmoCndeboda adamiani, ro-

melic aseT mimarTulebas mounaxavda

faSisti generlis moqmedebas. amitom

SeSfoTebuli var, da Tuki es dadas-

turdeba, rom rogorme vinme mxars

uWerda am werilebs, _ aseTi kaci ar

SeiZleba iyos mweralTa kavSiris we-

vri, Tu es misi xelidan aris gamo-

suli, is ar SeiZleba iyos mweralTa

kavSiris wevri.

Tavmjdomare _ karlo!

karlo kalaZe _ mZime mdgomareoba-

Si Cagvayena Cven zviadma. ara marto

Tavisi Tavi Caayena mZime mdgomareo-

baSi, upirveles yovlisa, Tavisi Tavi,

magram ukiduresad Znel mdgomare-

obaSi Camayena me da yvela mwerali,

romlebic am xnis ganmavlobaSi, Ti-

Tqmis 40 wlis ganmavlobaSi, rogorc

konstantinesTan, ise am ojaxTan

axlos videqiT.

rasakvirvelia, me vekuTvni im amxa-

nagebs, romlebmac (Cven) konstantine

gamsaxurdias vaJiSvili miviReT mwe-

ralTa kavSirSi. mec miveci xma.

mweralTa kavSirSi yofna niSnavs,

rom iziarebde Sen im Sexedulebas,

im mdgomareobas, ideurad idge imaT

gverdiT, vinc am mweralTa kavSirSia

gaerTianebuli, da roca adamiani Ta-

visi saqcieliT upirispirdeba mwe-

ralTa kavSirs, mwerlobas, ra Tqma

unda, Cven valdebuli varT Cveni

damokidebuleba gamovxatoT, garda

imisa, rac Cven am dReebSi presaSi wa-

vikiTxeT, me meti araferi vici. Tu

kidev aris rame, unda vicode isic.

rac prezidiumSia, isic unda vicode,

magram rac oficialurad, rac Cvens

Tvalwin aris, me amisic mjera.

amitomac mweralTa kavSiris umra-

vlesobis azrs viziareb, rom Cveni

erTad yofna ar SeiZleba, is scil-

deba yovelgvar sakiTxs, es aris sa-

mSoblos sakiTxi, es aris patriotu-

li sindisis sakiTxi, es aris TviT

konstantinesTan damokidebulebis

sakiTxi, rac ar unda mZime iyos, pa-

suxi unda agos zviadma TavisTavis

magivrad, zviadma pasuxi unda agos

konstantines magivradac. is unda yo-

filiyo Cvens gverdiT da radgan ar

isurva, man unda mkacri pasuxi agos,

da is amas Seurigda. me mgonia, Cven-

Tan erTad misi yofna Znelia da war-

moudgeneli.

Tavmjdomare _ kidev vis surs ga-

moTqvas azri?

aleqsi gomiaSvili _ vidre Cems mo-

sazrebas gamovTqvamde, minda Seveki-

Txo zviads.

Tqven ganacxadeT _ amisi arc re-

daqtori var da arc avtorio. Tu

Tqven redaqtori ara xarT da arc

avtori, rogorc mweralTa kavSiris

wevri, rogor uyurebT am organos

pozicias? ra pozicia gaqvT am or-

ganosTan? _ da Tu Tqven monawile

xarT am yvelafrisa, da imis Sesaxeb,

rac gazeTSi iyo gamoqveynebuli, im

sityvebis Semdeg, rac mweralTa kav-

Siris prezidiumis sxdomis procesSi

moismineT _ ra azri dagebadaT da ra

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stenografuli angariSi saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris prezidiumis sxdomisa, 1977 wlis 1 aprili

gagrZeleba

mosazreba gaqvT?

zviad gamsaxurdia _ mokled moga-

xsenebT. solJenicini rom garicxes

kavSiridan, sakuTari nawarmoebebi-

saTvis garicxes. Tqven magdebT imis-

Tvis, rac Cemi ar aris, umTavresad

antifaSisturi proklamaciis da maR-

lakeliZis biografiisaTvis, romle-

bic Cemi ar aris, Cemi dawerili ar

aris. me ar vawer xels. me vageb pasuxs

mxolod imaze, rasac me vwer da xels

vawer. es rom iyos Cemi Jurnali, ma-

Sin movawerdi xels. SeiZleba, bevr

rames me ar viziareb, is proklamacia

CemTvis ucxoa. Tu aris im JurnalSi

raime dokumenturi masala, amas vi-

ziareb. aq cdiloben gacilebiT meti

damabralon, vidre es sinamdvileSia.

presac amas cdilobs. pozicia? amaze

me Tavs vikaveb, amas bolos vityvi.

aleqsi gomiaSvili _ me mgonia be-

vri laparaki zedmetia. Cveni wesdeba,

rasac gveubneba, Cveni valdebule-

baa, mweralTa kavSiris wevrebi unda

viyoT sabWoTa poziciaze da vamar-

TlebdeT wesdebas, vinc am wesdebas

ar iziarebs, vinc am poziciaze ar

aris, is mweralTa kavSiris wevri ar

unda iyos.

Tavmjdomare _ vis surs gamoTqvas

azri?

vano Tarba _ uxerxul mdgomare-

obaSi var, rogorc yvela. minda da-

viwyo karlo kalaZis sityviT. kons-

tantine gamsaxurdia CemTvis iyo

RmerTi, udidesi qarTveli kaci da

Cveni xalxis didi megobari da Zma.

roca mamaCemi mokvda, specialurad

Camovida oCamCireSi, Cems saxlSi iyo

da Zalian axlobeli kaci iyo CemTvis

da dRes CemTvis es sakiTxi Zalian

mZimea, mZime mdgomareobaSi var, ise

rogorc yvela Tqven, sadRac me _

ufro metadac.

ar vici, Tu zviadi daamtkicebs,

rom arafer SuaSia… xdeba gana, rom

Cvens presaSi aseTi masala iyos mo-

Tavsebuli da ar iyos swori? im ma-

salebis mixedviT, zviads gauWirdeba

Cvens rigebSi, mweralTa kavSiris ri-

gebSi darCena.

Tavmjdomare _ giorgi!

giorgi natroSvili _ vanom Tqva,

rac yvela Cvenganis sawuxaria. garda

amisa, Cveni presa, es ucxouri gadmo-

cemebi, es masala, eseni yvelaferi _

rogor SeiZleba?! vuerTdebi aq gamo-

sul amxanagebs.

Tavmjdomare _ elguja!

elguja maRraZe _ me mimaCnia, rom

zviad gamsaxurdia aris msxverpli im

ganukiTxavobisa, rac 20 wlis ganma-

vlobaSi grZeldeboda Cvens respu-

blikaSi, rasac 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi

ver vebrZodiT da roca man pirveli

nabiji gadadga am mxriv, Cven pasu-

xismgeblebi varT da damnaSave varT,

rom Tavis droze ar mivuTiTeT da ar

vuTxariT, rom es mcdari gzaa. am or-

ganizacias rom ufro meti fxa, ufro

meti vaJkacoba, SorsmWvreteloba ga-

moeCina, mieTiTebina misTvis (TiTqmis

yvelas Svileul asakad gvekuTvnis),

Cven SegveZlo misi mobruneba, aRzr-

da. gveTqva, rom is aris mcdari gza,

magram Cvens mweralTa kavSirSi im 20

wlis manZilze iyo danergili is, rom

eqscesebiTa da CxubiT vinc gadioda,

Cven amas vuwyobdiT xels, vaqezebdiT

amanac Tavisi daRi daasva. Cven rom

Tavis droze agvelagma is, vinc eqs-

cesebiT ikafavda gzas, saqme aqamde

ar mividoda.

axla is dapirispirebuli aRmoCnda

CvenTan, yvela CvenganTan da wesde-

basTan. misi saqcieli da moqmedeba

dasagmobia da amdenad mweralTa kav-

Siris rigebSi rom darCes, Znelia.

Tavmjdomare _ xuta!

xuta berulava _ mweralTa kavSiri

_ es aris TanamoazreTa kavSiri, ro-

gorc amas Cveni wesdeba iTvaliswi-

nebs. ra Tqma unda, es moqmedebac

SeuTavsebelia sabWoTa mwerlebis

saxelTan.

me minda, daveTanxmo zogierTi

amxanagis winadadebas. radgan zviad

gamsaxurdia acxadebs, rom es mas ar

ekuTvnis, rom es misi xelmZRvanelo-

biT Tu monawileobiT ar gakeTebula

(gviTxras, visia) da Tu es asea, er-

Txel kidev SevecadoT, iqneb aRmova-

CinoT…

Tavmjdomare _ amaze rom ar iyos

laparaki, mogaxsenebT: is, rac presa-

Sia dabeWdili da rac aq motanilia,

es dadasturebulia da aravis ar

undoda amis gamogoneba da SeTxzva.

es aris dadasturebuli da damtki-

cebuli da imitom aris gamotanili.

vidre bolomde ar iyo damtkicebu-

li, ar gamoutaniaT. zviads SeuZlia,

gamoTqvas Tavisi azri. is, rac aris

_ damtkicebulia da amas ar gavxdiT

sadavod. vimsjeloT imaze, rom fa-

qtiuri masalaa. xom ar SeiZleba ga-

zeTi „komunisti“ , „Tbilisi“, „axal-

gazrda komunisti“, „literaturuli

gazeTi“ tyuils swerdes?!

xuta berulava _ yvelaze mTavari

is aris, rom Cven aravis ar unda mi-

vceT ufleba, suli aumRvrios Cvens

axalgazrdobas, romelic Cven, Semoq-

medebiTma muSakebma unda aRvzardoT

komunistur idealebze da komunis-

turi suliskveTebiT da am SemTxveva-

Si, rodesac laparakia Zalian maRal

da wminda saqmeebze, aq daTmoba ar

SeiZleba.

me vuerTdebi amxanagebis azrs _ sa-

qarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris rigeb-

Si ar SeiZleba, rom aseTi kaci iyos.

Tavmjdomare _ kidev?

vaxtang WeliZe _ CemTvis cota Zne-

lia laparaki imitom, rom TviTon

zviadTan ar mqonda keTili urTier-

Toba, magram unda gamovTqva azri,

imis Semdeg ra sabuTebsac Cven gave-

caniT _ im proklamacias, faSizmis

reabilitaciis cdas, _ wesdeba ar

gvaZlevs uflebas, rom Cvens rigeb-

Si iyos da vuerTdebi saerTo azrs _

aseTi adamiani ar unda iyos mweral-

Ta kavSiris rigebSi.

Tavmjdomare _ sergi!

sergi Wilaia _ me sxva masalas ar

vicnob, rac gazeTSia, imas vicnob da

me mimaCnia _ sabWoTa presaSi moyva-

nili faqtebi da masala iseT Seuval

suraTs qmnis, rom aq ori azri arse-

bobdes, SeuZlebelia.

Tavmjdomare _ kidev?

revaz margiani _ Zalian rTul

mdgomareobaSi aRmoCnda qarTuli

mwerloba. me gavecani am masalebs.

TavisTavad zviadis saqcieli metyve-

lebs, rom is ar iziarebs qarTuli

sabWoTa mwerlobis poziciebs da

TviTon laparakobs _ ar aris saWiro

102 cxeli Sokoladi

iyos wevri am kavSirisa.

Tavmjdomare _ irakli, xom ar

ityodiT rames?

irakli abaSiZe _ ra mZimec ar unda

iyos amis Tqma, amxanagebo, unda

vTqvaT _ sabWoTa mwerals ar SeiZ-

leba sxva raime azri hqondes. sabWo-

Ta kavSiris mweralTa kavSiris wevri

Cvens wesdebas icnobs, maT Soris,

rasakvirvelia, zviadic icnobs. ra-

sakvirvelia, ar SeiZleba, Tu es yve-

laferi viciT, rac viciT Cven… (me

axla avad viyavi da yvelaferi ver

wavikiTxe). Tqven aq dagiZaxes imitom,

rom sTqvaT…

zviad gamsaxurdia _ bolos vi-

tyvi...

irakli abaSiZe _ sxvaTa Soris, bo-

los Cven unda vTqvaT. Cven ras vla-

parakobT?

zviad gamsaxurdia _ sasamarTloze

jer ekiTxebian braldebuls da Sem-

deg gamoaqvT ganaCeni.

irakli abaSiZe _ Tu saWiroa kenWi

vuyaroT, kenWi imitom, rom Tqven-

Tvis gadawyvetilia, sakiTxi naTelia

da me momxre var sabWoTa kavSiris

mweralTa kavSiridan zviad gamsaxur-

dia gairicxos, magram Cven albaT,

imitom davuZaxeT, rom mas movusmi-

noT. axla Cven vlaparakobT da mere

movusmenT?

11 welia mweralTa kavSirSi gvyavs

kaci, Cveni didebisa da siamayis Svili,

Cveni yvela ojaxis Svili. ra vqeniT,

ra gavakeTeT?! Cvens Tavzec unda

vTqvaT da piradad Cems Tavzedac _

vuTxariT mas raime, gavafrTxileT,

davuZaxeT? ai, me rom irakli abaSiZe

var _ ra gavakeTe. 1966 wels migviRia

wevrad. eg daWerili iyo erTxel, mec

movexmare. Cems Tvalwin uTxra kons-

tantine gamsaxurdiam, mogklavo, Tu

ki gaimeorebo.

mere ra moxda, davuZaxeT, vela-

parakeT, Tu ra vqeniT?! ase ar aris

sul, Cven xom gvTxoven pasuxs da

mogvkiTxaven da savsebiT marTali

iqneba. ase ki ar aris _ auwevT xels.

imxela didi movlenaa, rom arc erT

respublikaSi ar momxdara. Tqven

amas angariSi unda gauwioT. es kaci

ambobs _ me ara var redaqtori, Cemi

xelmowera ar aris. vkiTxoT raSia

saqme, ra aris, dagveZaxebina, erTxel

gagvefrTxilebina, meoredac, unda

gvemuSava. me cota mkacrad gamo-

vdivar, avad var _ me Cems Sesaxebac

vlaparakob imitom, rom Zmad mimaCnda

konstantine da megobrad misi ojaxi.

am bolo xanebSi xuTjer viyaviT da

dRe ar iyo, rom ar daereka CemTvis

da giorgi natroSvilisaTvis. Cven

damnaSaveebi varT da Cven mogvTxoven

pasuxs.

xmebi _ sTqvas.

zviad gamsaxurdia _ saerTod, ra

unda mogaxsenoT. sasamarTlo rom

sasamarTloa, mas Tavisi wesi aqvs _

sabWoTa kavSirsa Tu ucxoeTSi, ar-

sebobs iurisprudencia, arsebobs

kanoni. Tu yvelaferi moTavebulia,

unda gavCumde da Tqven rac gindaT,

is gamoitaneT, is daadgineT. ar Sei-

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presaSia. presas SeiZleba, SeeSalos.

verc presa gaswevs sasamarTloobas

da verc prokuratura. es rom ase

iyos, maSin sasamarTlo aRar iqnebo-

da. prokuratura gamoTqvams Tavis

azrs da mas rom SeeZlos gadawyve-

ta, maSin sasamarTloc ar iqneboda

saWiro. marto prokuraturis azri

rom iyos kompetenturi, sasamarTlo

aRar iarsebebda. sasamarTlo imitom

arsebobs, rom daadginos simarTle,

is simarTle, romelsac ver adgens

prokuratura. ratom arsebobs sasa-

marTlo da SeiZleba Tu ara ase sro-

la adamianis mimarT da yvelaferi

is, rasac presa akeTebs? yvelaferi,

rac enaze moadgeba „sovetskaia kul-

turis“ korespondents, gadmoigzav-

neba aq da ibeWdeba an Tundac is, rom

me radio „svobodas“ vugzani masale-

bs. rogor SeiZleba ase dabraleba?

da ramdeni unda CamovTvalo?

ai, TviT aq rac wamZRvarebulia. me

ar vici, sad gamodis es Jurnali, vis

mier. me vwer da vaZlev megobrebs.

me vwer da rasac xels vawer, samwu-

xarod ar ibeWdeba, cenzura mkacria,

amitom gadavcem nacnob-megobrebs.

magaliTad, ZeglTa dacvis mdgomare-

obaze davwere, presis yvela organos

mivmarTe. ar damibeWdes da Semdeg ga-

davwyvite mimewodebina xalxisaTvis.

rac Seexeba proklamacias, ar mina-

xia, arc miTargmnia da saerTod me ar

var sabWoTa wyobilebis mteri, arc

misi damxobis momxre da arc aravis

movuwodeb amisken, Tu me raimes vwer,

vakritikeb romelime dawesebulebas,

es ar niSnavs, rom me var mteri. nu

aiRebT Tqvens Tavze sasamarTlos

funqcias. me vici, Tqven es dagegmili

gaqvT da, rac ar unda vTqva, Tqven

verafers SescvliT. es gadawyveti-

lia, magram Tqven sasamarTlo ar br-

ZandebiT, Tqvena xarT mweralTa wre.

araviTari maRlakeliZis Sesaxeb we-

rilis avtori me ara var. gadaxedeT

da naxavT _ arc erTi sityva Cemi ar

aris. da sxvaTa Soris, maRlakeliZis

Sesaxeb unda mogaxsenoT, _ is Tqve-

ni „mernis“ konsultanti iyo, Tu is

faSisti gaxldaT, ratom ar moxvda

niurnbergis procesSi? imitom, rom

swored is iyo antihitlereli, anti-

faSisti, ubralo samxedro. is gaxl-

daT Sulenbergis dajgufebis wevri,

antifaSisti da arc vicnobdi da arc

vmegobrobdi maRlakeliZes, is Tqveni

gamomcemloba „mernis“ TanamSromeli

iyo wlebis ganmavlobaSi da yvela

TqvenTagans masTan puri uWamia da

kargi sityva uTqvams.

giorgi JorJoliani _ me ar var mag

werilis avtorio…

zviad gamsaxurdia _ Tu sasamar-

Tlo daamtkicebs, rom me var mag

werilis avtori, an es proklamaciac

Cemi Targmnilia… me ar vawer xels

Jurnals, imitom ki ara, rom meSinia,

ara, me ara var mSiSara. me ar vici,

sad gamodis es Jurnali. am JurnalSi

yvelaferi _ rac faqtiuri masalaa _

simarTlea da me amaze vawer xels.

giorgi ciciSvili _ Tqven ambobT,

rom ar iciT, sad gamodis, vin aris

redaqtori da xelmZRvaneli. gaqvT

Tu ara ufleba mweralTa kavSiris

wevrs, beWdoT, gauSvaT Tundac uwyi-

nari korespondencia im JurnalSi,

romlis arc redaqtori iciT, arc

Semdgeneli, arc iniciatori, arc

fasi aweria da is ki namdvilad iciT,

rom aralegaluri Jurnalia. me pira-

dad arc minaxia es Jurnali. es rom

yofiliyo dabeWdili „ciskarSi“,

„mnaTobSi“, gamovidodi, Sevafasebdi.

ranairad Sefasdeba es Tqveni saqcie-

li am SemTxvevaSi, roca Tqven beWda-

vT im JurnalSi?

zviad gamsaxurdia _ batono gior-

gi, es iseTi Jurnalia, sadac SeiZleba

xval Tqveni nawarmoebic moxvdes. me

Cems nawarmoebebs vuSveb Cems nac-

nob-megobrebSi, iseTebs, romlebsac

ar mibeWdavs presa. iq redaqciaa da

kantora ki ar aris, rogorc weren,

araviTari kantora ar aris. es geSle-

baT. es yvelaferi dasadgenia da rac

ganzraxuli gaqvT ukve, SegiZliaT

gadawyvitoT.

Tavmjdomare _ batono giorgi!

giorgi merkvilaZe _ zviadis ga-

mosvlam Cven mainc ver dagvarwmuna,

rom mas araviTari kavSiri ara aqvs.

mainc faqtebs Tavisi logika aqvs da

ara mgonia, rom Tqven ar icodeT am

Jurnalis asaval-dasavali. bolosa

da bolos, Tqveni nebis gareSe ro-

gor ibeWdeba? Tqven sruli ufleba

gqondaT, protesti gagecxadebinaT

oficialurad, rogorc es moxda

moskovis gazeTebSi da raki es ase ar

aris, Tqven TanamSromlobT am Jur-

nalSi da TanaugrZnobT am Jurnalis

pozicias.

Tqven Tqveni niWiT, Tqveni ojaxis

tradiciebiT, rasakvirvelia, kavSir-

Si unda iyoT CvenTan da Tqveni pra-

qtikuli saqmianoba sawinaaRmdegoa

amisa, amitom mec mxars vuWer wina-

dadebas, rom Tqveni kavSirSi yofna

SeuTavsebelia kavSiris wevris mova-

leobasTan.

Tavmjdomare _ guram!

guram fanjikiZe _ me var Zalian

cud dReSi da Zalian miWirs dRes

gamosvla, vinaidan ori welia me da

zviadi erTmaneTs ar velaparakebiT,

radgan gvqonda Zalian didi Cxubi _

axla ar minda am gaWirvebul dros

bralmdebeli gamovide, vinaidan ar

davemsgavso Casafrebul mters. miu-

xedavad amisa, me viziareb prezidiu-

mis azrs.

ise ki, arsebobs wesdeba. magali-

Tad, partiidan ricxaven kacs, Tu

sami Tvis sawevro ar gadaixada, vinai-

dan zviadi ar emorCileba mweralTa

kavSiris wesdebas, ar iziarebs mis

programas, TviTonve unda gasuliyo

am kavSiridan.

rasakvirvelia, me viziareb prezi-

diumis azrs, magram Zalian cud dRe-

Si var.

arCil sulakauri _ mec igive min-

da vTqva, rac guramma. me da zviads

ara gvaqvs kargi urTierToba, didi

xania. me, rogorc Tqven, pirvelad

gavige presidan es ambebi. me prin-

cipulad ar vkiTxulobdi, rasac eg

werda, magram axla raRacnairad, ba-

toni iraklis gamosvlis Semdeg, ar

SeiZleba angariSi ar gauwio imas, rom

pirovneba uaryofs, imas ambobs, rom

araviTari kavSiri ar hqonia…

zviad gamsaxurdia _ kavSiri ki

mqonda, Cemi masala dabeWdilia, amas

104 cxeli Sokoladi

yvela xedavs, sad da rodis gamodis,

me ar vici.

arCil sulakauri _ isic marTalia,

rom sasamarTlom unda daadginos.

zviadi ise unda mosuliyo, rom sa-

samarTlos daemtkicebina es. ise, vi-

ziareb saerTo azrs.

Tamaz WilaZe _ viziareb prezidiu-

mis azrs.

guram asaTiani _ yvelam Tqva da

mec unda vTqva _ Zalian mtkivneuli

sakiTxia. Zalian mZime mdgomareobaSi

varT. me ara mgonia, rom darbazSi

iyos mwerali, romelic pirad mtrad

Tvlides zviad gamsaxurdias. me esec

mawuxebs, me minda zviads mivmarTo da

Tu is obieqturad Seafasebs, Znelia

ase dascildes pirad gancdas.

zviad gamsaxurdias adgilze me pi-

radad ufro adre davwerdi gancxa-

debas imis Sesaxeb, rom gamogveyvana

kavSiridan.

kosta margievi _ me masalebs ar

vicnob. vicnob mxolod gazeTebSi

dabeWdil masalas. dRes vxedav pira-

dad am SesaniSnav axalgazrdas, magram

me Tanaxma var prezidiumis azrisa.

fridon xalvaSi _ amxanagebi ga-

movidnen. me veTanxmebi amxanagebis

azrs. sxva mxriv, saqmis kursSi me ar

var, garda imisa, rac presaSi iyo da

umravlesobis azrs vuWer mxars.

roman miminoSvili _ Zalian Znelia

laparaki. gvian Semovedi. aq raze iyo

saubari, me ar vici, magram ramdena-

dac vatyob, pativcemuli zviadi ua-

ryofs imas, rom es gamocemebi misi

iniciativiT xdeboda. presaSi rac

gamoqveynda masala, es mxolod nawi-

lia, ris saqmis kursSi SeiZleba iyos

ganyofileba.

aq rom movdiodi, me zogierTi ram

movitane (gadascems grigol abaSi-

Zes) da zogi ram gamges aqvs. es aris

„Tavisuflebis tribuna“, sadac da-

beWdilia zviad gamsaxurdias sityva

da, agreTve, konstantine gamsaxur-

dias gamouqveynebeli novela da ra-

mdenadac me vici, konstantine gamsa-

xurdias arqivze aravis ar miuwvdeba

xeli.

Tavmjdomare _ es aris emigrantu-

li Jurnali?

roman miminoSvili _ diax, es aris

emigrantuli Jurnali, romlis sare-

daqcio kolegiaSi Sedian g. wereTe-

li, m. nozaZe da… zviad gamsaxurdias

Ria werili profesor lengs.

zviad gamsaxurdia _ es Cemia, me va-

wer amas xels. es werili me gavugza-

vne devid lengs. aseve xvdeba „Tavi-

sufal xmaSi“ yvelaferi. vis miaqvs,

me ar vici.

roman miminoSvili _ ai es erTgver-

diani amonaweri „saqarTvelos moam-

bidan“. aq aris CamoTvlili is pirebi,

romlebic moskovSi xelmZRvaneloben

e. w. adamianTa uflebaTa dacvas da

maTi werilia, romelsac xels aweren

akademikosi saxarovi, tverdokredo-

vi da WeliZe. jgufis wevrebi: zviad

gamsaxurdia, merab kostava, viqtor

rcxilaZe da sxvani. „oqros sawmisis“

Sesaxebac igive mdgomareobaa.

am „oqros sawmisTan“ dakavSirebiT

minda mogaxsenoT, „oqros sawmisSi“

aris konstantine gamsaxurdias ga-

mouqveynebeli nawarmoebi. saidan Re-

bulobs redaqcia?

zviad gamsaxurdia _ mTels qalaqSi

dadis es.

revaz jafariZe _ megobrebo, albaT

TviTeuli Cvengani daTmobda Tavisi

sicocxlis ramdenime wels, rom es

ambavi ar moswreboda. me davTmobdi

ramdenime wels, rom ar mWirdebodes

aq gamosvla. me ar vityvi ratom, ra

urTierToba mqonda konstantine ga-

msaxurdiasTan, rogor miyvars zvia-

di, magram aq rom brZandebodes, Cvens

prezidiumze, batoni konstantine

isic ase ityoda.

arsebobs wesdeba da formaluri

logika moiTxovs, roca ar eTanxmebi

am wesdebas, Sen TviTon daswero gan-

cxadeba da ar Cagvayeno Cven uxerxul

mdgomareobaSi.

kargi iyo, rom zviads ase gaekeTe-

bina da Zalian vwuxvar, da iZulebuli

var yvela imis gamo, rac CvenTan aris

aq, mxari davuWiro am winadadebas.

murman lebaniZe _ gaocebuli var

im mdgomareobiT da gakvirvebas iwve-

vs is faqti, rom jer kidev bolomde

ar aris garkveuli da samtkicebeli

xdeba Cvens sxdomaze, rogorc bato-

ni zviadi acxadebs, aris Tu ara is

yvela am masalis organizatori, re-

daqtori da redaqtor-gamomcemeli.

Tavmjdomare _ amxanagebo, me ofi-

cialurad vacxadeb _ roca es sakiTxi

daisva, Cven gviTxres, rom yvelaferi

dokumentirebulia da nu gavxdiT sa-

davos, da Tu ki zviadi daamtkicebs,

Cven ar gagviWirdeba sxvanairad vi-

msjeloT.

murman lebaniZe _ mainc nuTu zvia-

ds ar dauZaxes da dRes salaparako

xdeba _ aris Tu ara redaqtori. dRes

zviadi aq unda mosuliyo absolutu-

rad ganiaraRebuli, absoluturad

Semzadebuli, rom eTqva _ ki batono!

amis Semdeg unda moxdes zviadis aR-

sareba da sad? _ sxvagan! ise, rom Cven

ar gvecodineba.

Tu is marto guram rCeuliSvilis

keTili mosagonaris avtoria, maSin

ulogikoa misi garicxva. magram Tu

is im Jurnalis redaqtoria, sadac

proklamacia da maRlakeliZis mosa-

gonaria dabeWdili, maSin misTvisac

da CvenTvisac naTelia, rom is gairi-

cxeba.

Tavmjdomare _ kidev Tu darCa vin-

me?

SoTa niSnianiZe _ ori azri ar SeiZ-

leba arsebobdes imis Sesaxeb, rac aq

iTqva, Tu es braldebebi dokumenti-

rebulia, kargia, Tu ki zviadi moa-

xerxebs Tavis marTlebas, magram Tu

es ver moaxerxa, maSin sajarod, pre-

saSi aRiaros Secdomebi, es bevr rames

niSnavs. mas iseTi aRzrda aqvs, iseT

garemoSia aRzrdili, rom ar SeiZ-

leba erisaTvis sasargeblo ar iyos

ganaTlebis gamo, wignierebis gamo,

xom SeuZlia ise iTanamSromlos, rom

erisaTvis sasargeblo iyos. me mgonia

mTeli qarTveli mwerlobisaTvis es

kargi iqneba, Tu gamarTleba da Tavis

Tavis reabilitacia ver moaxerxa, am

Secdomis aRiareba niSnavs misi sin-

disis winaSe erTgvar gamarjvebas da

perspeqtivaSi CvenTan iqneba es kaci.

Tavmjdomare _ vin darCa kidev?

ana kalandaZe _ batoni murmanisa

ar iyos, ra unda vilaparako, pir-

veli gancda is aris, rom batoni

konstantines aCrdilis winaSe varT

gagrZeleba

cxeli Sokoladi 105

yvelani umZimes mdgomareobaSi da

gansakuTrebiT me. zviadi naTlima-

maa Cemi, naTel-mironi makavSirebs.

da rac aq iTqva, iman me cota imedi

momca. pirveli samsjavro _ es aris

mweralTa kavSiris prezidiumi. nuTu

aravin daibara, marto Cven varT pir-

velebi?… SeiZleba, moxdes saswauli

da zviadma Tavi gaimarTlos da amo-

visunTqoT. SeiZleba, moxdes aseTi

saswauli da me am saswaulisa mjera.

Tavmjdomare _ batono demna!

demna Sengelaia _ amxanagebo, Zne-

lia im ymawvilis mdgomareoba da misi

gaTvaliswineba CemTvis, romlis xel-

Sic is gaizarda. sul patara iyo, ro-

desac konstantine mas Tavs evleboda

da dRes sul sxvanairad warmosdga.

sakmarisia CemTvis is, rac presaSia.

ar SeiZleba ase, piradi moralis

sakiTxi saeWvoa Zalian, anonimur we-

rilebs rom kaci wers samRvdeloeba-

ze, 170 werili gaugzavnia anonimuri,

da zviadma amaze naklebi werilebi ki

ar gagzavnao. gaufrTxildeT qar-

Tul enaso, es iseT eWvebs aRZravs,

aq araviTari sasamarTlo dadastu-

reba ar gvWirdeba, yvelaferi naTe-

lia. es yvelaferi axdens Zalian cud

STabeWdilebas, rogorc moqalaqis

da aq inteleqtis mdgomareobaa ki-

dev safiqrebeli. WkuaTmyofeli kaci

amas ar izams da miT umetes Sen, sam-

Soblos Svili xar da amRvrev wyals.

me vwuxvar Cveni ojaxis wevri aqamde

rom mivida da Tu zviadi moaxerxebs

imas, rom gaimarTlebs Tavs, ar vici,

es aris ciliswameba. Tu is gaimar-

Tlebs Tavs, es iqneba bedniereba, es

iqneba misi gadarCena da konstantines

gadarCena da gadarCena Cveni prezi-

diumis saxelis gatexisa, es sakiTxi

Zalian rTulia. rTulia CemTvis pi-

radad biografiulad misi warmod-

gena, es „samizdati“, es yvelaferi,

araferi sisaZagle rom ar aklia am

saqmes. es samwuxaro mdgomareobaa.

ar aklia arc antipatriotizmi, arc

amxanagebis dasmena da gawirva. aba ra

aris anonimuri werilebi. me Zalian

meniSna erTi sityva, romelsac ambobs

samRvdeloeba „paranoikebi“.

ra Tqma unda, Tqven kargad iciT,

rom Cvens qveyanas imdeni mteri hyavs,

rom mtris gamogoneba kidev aravis

ar sWirdeba da vidre am sakiTxs aq

movitandiT, gviTxres, rom es fiq-

sirebulia. magram raki zviadma es

ganacxada, bevri sikeTe gvakavSirebs

masTan, Tu ki is im azrisaa, rom ar

iziarebs, rac aq aris da gaimarTle-

bs Tavs an daswers exlave, rom gmobs

yvelafers…

zviad gamsaxurdia _ yvelafers ar

vgmob. rac me damiweria, imas ar vgmob.

araviTari antisabWoTa me ar damiwe-

ria, mTavrobis winaaRmdeg me araferi

damiweria. rac Seexeba proklamacias,

is me ar mexeboda, ar vici.

Tavmjdomare _ Tu Tqven cnobT,

rom es aris antisabWoTa moRvaweoba,

gmobT da ar iziarebT; ar iziarebT

im radiogadacemebs da winaaRmdegi

xarT am moqmedebis…

zviad gamsaxurdia _ yvelafers ro-

gor vgmob, Cemi Tavis winaaRmdegi xom

ar viqnebi? damiweria daviT garejis

Zeglis mdgomareobis Sesaxeb da sxva

Zeglebis Sesaxebac da amas yvelafers

me ar vgmob. vgmob im proklamacias,

rac aris antisabWoTa, antisabWoTa

me araferi damiweria.

giorgi JorJoliani _ Tqven gana-

cxadeT, _ ar iciT am Jurnalis gamo-

cema, sad icema da vin ganagebs da arc

mogwonT. maS rogor beWdavT?

SoTa niSnianiZe _ daweros axsna-

ganmartebiTi baraTi, ai is, rac mo-

gvaxsena. es kargi iqneba.

Tavmjdomare _ zviad, roca Tqven

iyaviT siraZesTan, gana ar iyo amaze

laparaki?

zviad gamsaxurdia _ siraZesTan me

viyavi memkvidreobis sakiTxTan daka-

vSirebiT da es vuTxari.

giorgi JorJoliani _ „oqros saw-

misi“ ixsneba Tqveni weriliT da le-

qsiT.

zviad gamsaxurdia _ leqsi Cemia,

werili ki _ ara.

giorgi JorJoliani _ xelmowera

aris batoni zviadis.

sergi Wilaia _ bevr rameze ambobs

uars da egeb daweros.

Tavmjdomare _ me nu CamayenebT

bralmdeblisa da mosamarTlis rol-

Si. Cven movusmineT aq gamoTqmul

azrebs. Tu marTla zviadi daamtki-

cebs, rom araviTari urTierToba ara

aqvs, Cven gvetyvian da aRvadgenT ise,

rom ar dagvWirdes misi garicxva,

es iqneba CvenTvis didad sasaxelo

da Cveni yvelas reabilitacia. gana

marto zviadi, aramed mTeli organi-

zaciaa uxerxul mdgomareobaSi. vis

gaexardeba es. xvalve davarRvevT am

dadgenilebas, oRond daamtkiceT.

rogor gekadrebaT?!

Cven vTqviT, rom Cveni kavSiris we-

vrisaTvis es SeuTavsebelia da Sen

TviTon unda daasabuTo Seni simar-

Tle. Sen araferi sTqvi.

kenWisyra mainc unda moxdes, for-

malurad xom unda vuyaroT kenWi

imas, rac aq iTqva.

revaz jafariZe _ ar unda kenWisyra.

Tavmjdomare _ vin aris momxre

im azrisa, romelic Tqven sTqviT?..

ar aris kenWisyra saWiro?! vin aris

momxre im winadadebisa, romelsac

yvela awers xels?

irakli abaSiZe _ rom gairicxos?!

Tavmjdomare _ vin aris momxre,

gairicxos? gTxovT, aswioT xeli!

gTxovT, dauSvaT! vin aris winaaRmde-

gi? aravin. Tavi vin Seikava? aravin.

maSasadame, winadadeba miRebulia er-

Txmad.

me kidev vimeoreb, Tu zviadi dRes-

ve daamtkicebs imas, rac man ganacxada

_ rom ara aqvs kavSiri am saqmianobas-

Tan, Cven pirvelebi viSuamdgomlebT,

rom gaauqmon dadgenileba.

aleqsi gomiaSvili _ modiT orSa-

baTamde mivceT vada, orSabaTs Tu

warmoadgens, xelaxla SevikriboT da

gadavxedoT.

Tavmjdomare _ Cven kenWi vuyareT

da gavaTaveT da me vambob _ Tu ki

zviadi gamarTldeba, rom mas aravi-

Tari damokidebuleba ara aqvs da ar

iziarebs im proklamaciis dabeWdvas

da antisabWoTa propagandas, Cven

yvelani davuWerT mxars mis kavSirSi

dabrunebas.

amiT Cveni es dRevandeli sxdoma

damTavrebulia…

gagrZeleba

106 cxeli Sokoladi

sanagvidan varskvlavebiskenerTi-ori advilad amosaSrobi wveTis garda, sulxan-saba orbelianis

Semdeg, qarTuli proza nagavia da Cvens cxovrebas nagviT avsebs. am

nagvidan Txzavs avtori `SuSanikis Svilebs~ da ise uaxlovdeba namdvil

literaturas, rogorc mxolod aka morCilaZes Tu gamosdis alag-alag.

mamuka lekiaSvili

prezentacia gaimarTeba literaturis muzeumSi

misamarTi: Wanturias q. N8

11 marti, 18 sT