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Studying in Germany
A Presentation byVolker Hellemanns
on 15th October 2004
at BME Xi´an Jiaotong University
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Part 1
Education System in Germany
Part 2
My University: „FH Lübeck“
Part 3
Typical Living Conditions
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Part 1
The Education System in Germany
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Overview - School
KindergardenAge 1…6
Elementary SchoolAge …10
Middle
SecondarySchoolAge …16
Low
MajorSchoolAge …15
High
HighSchoolAge …19
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Kindergarden
Age of 3, sometimes at 1
• Costs: 50…350 Euro per month
• From 7am…6pm, help for working parents
• There is no right to get a place there
• They learn:– Socializing (cooking...)– Nature experience (trees, plants ,animals)– Technical experience (working with tools...)– Business experience (counting apples...)
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Elementary School
Age of 6…10
• Costs: Free
• From 8…11am
• Every Child MUST go
• They learn:– Reading, Writing– Simple Mathematics– Nature experience (plants ,animals)– Working with wood, wool…
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Selection through Evaluation
After Elementary School
Teacher gives Recommendation
• Major School (5 years)
• Secondary School (6 years)
• High School (9 years)
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Major School Finished after 9th class, free, school duty ends
add 1 year school: Secondary School Certificateonly possible with good marks
OR
Learning a Job in a Company (3.5 years)+ Going to School (Technical, Art or Business)
OR
after 3 years of fulltime school Advanced College Certificate: Academy
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Secondary School Finished after 10th class, free
Add 3 year school: High School Certificateonly possible with good marks
OR
Learning a Job in a Company (2…3 years) + Going to School (Technical, Art or Business)
OR
After 2 years of fulltime school Advanced College Certificate: Academy
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High School
Finished after 13th class, free
• High School Certificate (Abitur)
• Permission for Academy or University
• Some choose instead learning a Job for (2…3 years) BUT: they have again go to school (specialized) Example: Learn banking business in a bank Then study business at university
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Military Service
• Men only, age 18…30
• Mostly after job training, before university
• For 9 months
• Alternative: Social Service (longer)
• Woman: voluntary social year
• Past: everyone
• Present: 50 %
• Future: none, professional army
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The Way to University
MiddleSecondary
School
LowMajorSchool
HighHigh School
Low
Academy•Master•FH-Diplom
High
University•Master•Diplom•Promotion (Dr.)
AdvancedCollege (3 years)
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Academy vs. UniversityUniversity
• 5…6 years
• More theoretical, deeper knowledge
• Less laboratory work
• 4- 5 examinations in the semester holidays
• Big classes (50…200 students)
• Professors do not care about understanding
• Promotion (Dr.) possible
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Academy
• 4 years
• More practicalsbecoming more popular in industry, but less salary
12 week internship, practical semester
• Much laboratory work
• 8…10 exams in two weeks
• Small classes (1…20 students)
• Professors care about understanding
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Part 2
My University: „FH Lübeck“
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Is that really Lübeck ?
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University of Applied Sciences
• Lübeck has 230.000 citizens
• FHL has 2000 Students (all 6000)• „FH-Diplom“ certificate In a few years there will only be masters
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View from above
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Map of open „Campus“
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One Canteen for all
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Nature is near (now…)
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Time Schedule
• September - January
March - July
• Most classes: 8am … 1pm sometimes until 5/7 pm
• Never at the weekend (Saturday ?)
Otherwise nobody would attend…
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Timetable: allows to finish in given time (8 Semesters)
almost impossible fast: bad marks slow: good marks
Every student can make his personal time table and can decide if he goes to a class or not.Caution with small classes !
Personal Time Schedule
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Subjects
• Applied Sciences:– Medical Engineering
• Biomedical E. (BMT)• Quality and Security E. (QST)• Construction of Medical Devices (EMG)
– Physics– Chemistry– Microsystem E.– Enviromental E.
• Electrical E.• Business/Mechanical E.• Civil E.
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Study Plan for Biomed. E. before: 12 Weeks in a company
for internship1st Half:
3 Semester• Basic subject groups:
– Mathematics– Physics– Chemistry– Electronics– Engineering– Basics (Medicine…)– Non technical subjects (English, Business)
• Classes: 27+25+26 h/week• Practical laboratory work: 5+4+2 h/week
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2nd Half: • 3 Semester Classes
1 Practical semester in a company
1 Semester for Thesis
• Deepening the Knowledge Chose - Specialization (BMT, QST, EMG)
- extra classes out of 32
• Classes: 27+21+21 h/week• Practical laboratory work: 2+7+7 h/week
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Summary
• 26 Exams (unlimited Tries)
• 21 Exams (3 Tries)
• 9 „Laboratory Classes“– Each: about 6 experiments a 10 pages– Total: over 500 pages of reports– VERY time consuming, correction…
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Student Organisations Rewarded for joining (Honor, Bafög)
• Student ParliamentElected every year, 19 students, sets in AStA
• AStA (common student committee) Representation of needs of Students in university,
political oranisation/work, social and financial matters
• Fachschaft Concrete work like
– Organizing Parties– Excursions to companies– Fighting unfair treatment
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Failure Rates
Biomed. E. at FHL• 100% fail in at least one exam
• 90% fail staying in given study time
• 50% do not finish
Academy, University together• 30…50% will get no degree at all
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Part 3
Typical Living Conditions
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Financial Stuff
• Semester Fee to AStA (100 euro/semester)
Bus ticket included !
• 500 euro/month (just enough)– 200 Apartment, outside more expensive– 150 simple food, no restaurant– 150 books, clothes, recreational activities
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Apartment
• Most difficult to find
• No right to live in university´s dormitories
Place for 10 % of students
• 150…300 euro/month
• Typical:
2 room apartment in official student dormitories, two single rooms, kitchen, bathroom
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High Living Costs
• Train Ticket to Hamburg (70km)
One way: 10 euro Subwayticket: 7 euro
• 0,3l Beer in a bar: 3…6 euro
• Restaurant, one person: 15 euro
• A pair of jeans, shos: 35 euro
• Study books: 20…100 euro
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Is a Student Job nessecary ?
• No: Bafög, up to 500 euro/month goverment credit for less wealthy students, must be paid back for 50% when working later, everyone can study (it will change…)
• But: one must stay in the given time schedule, otherwise: no more money
• Long time students or those who enjoy life very much (parties, car…) always work
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Thank you for listening !
Any Questions ?