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Supporting Older People Conference SP4: Welfare reform – the challenge ahead Speakers: Julie Vickers Director of Business Support New Charter Housing Trust Ken Youngman Group Finance Director Family Mosaic Housing Chair: Kevin Williamson Head of Policy National Housing Federation

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Supporting Older

People Conference

SP4: Welfare reform – the challenge ahead

Speakers: Julie Vickers

Director of Business Support New Charter Housing Trust

Ken Youngman

Group Finance Director Family Mosaic Housing

Chair: Kevin Williamson

Head of Policy National Housing Federation

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NHF FINANCE CONFERENCE

WELFARE REFORM

THE CHALLENGE AHEAD

19th March 2014

Julie Vickers – Director of Business Support

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THE NEW CHARTER VIEW ON ….

• The Universal Credit “experience” …. to date

• Preparing for full scale implementation

• Mitigating the risk

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NEW CHARTER – WHAT AND WHERE

New Charter HTG

• Stock Transfer (March 2000)

• 19,000 stock

• “More than just Housing”

• Metropolitan based

• Customers at the heart

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UC PATHFINDER WHAT WE KNOW

• Began – 29th April 2013

• 11 months on 30 tenants receiving UC

• Significant arrears in some cases

• 13 switchback requests

• 5 Court orders

• 5 Arrears Direct Payments

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UC PATHFINDER WHAT WE KNOW

BUT…numbers so low, hard to

assess the real impact

Rent Due £56,188

Arrears at date of claim £12,759

Arrears end of February £21,669

Increase in arrears £8,910

Collection Rate 84.14%

UC February 2014 (week 48)

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UC PATHFINDER POTENTIAL IMPACT FOR NEW CHARTER

• Approx. 6,500 working age claimants • Based on 70% migration to direct payment, (4,550):

• Average Rent of £87.97 • Annual Debit £20m • Potential growth in arrears = £3.1m

• BUT • Ideally no arrears more than 8 weeks

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ACHIEVING THE BUSINESS PLAN WHAT WE HAVE TO DO

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50,000

100,000

150,000

200,000

250,000

300,000

350,000

400,000

2013/14 2018/19 2023/24 2028/29 2033/34 2038/39

Base

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UC PATHFINDER - ISSUES ARISING

• Alternative Payment Arrangements

• Arrears Direct requests – separate process • Service Charges

• “Who is on UC”?!?!

• Individual payment dates

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UC PATHFINDER - SAFEGUARDS

• Arrears triggers – immediate attention

• Alternative payment arrangements

• Local support services framework

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UC PATHFINDER – WHAT TO THINK ABOUT

• Tenant direct payment…. OBVIOUSLY! • Monthly payment ……. transition & 53 week rent years

• Client commitment

• Loss of access to information

• Claiming on-line

• Developing reactive systems – ‘rent first’ approach

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UC PATHFINDER – WHY DATA SHARING?

• Fraud prevention and reduces overpayment • Efficiencies for both landlords and DWP • Releases time in the courts

• Support for claimants to work towards independence in

money management • Deliver value for money

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TENANTS HAVE TOLD US…

Response 2009 2012

Access to a bank account 93% 93%

Using bank account all the t ime 57% 51%

Using overdraft regularly 33% 33%

Have long term debt/loans 27% 31%

Use licensed doorstep lenders 20% 23%

Use loan sharks 4% 2%

Have no savings 68% 72%

Don't know what a Credit Union is 57% 82%

Don't know where to get advice 21% 34%

N o Home Contents Insurance 52% 55%

N ot enough money to manage 19% 27%

Have money worries 48% 59%

Access to the internet in the home 43% 48%

Budget well 88% 84%

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OUR OWN WORK TELLS US… Money Care Service

Debt Advice

Year N o of Cases Average Debt

per case

£'000 £'000 £

2012-2013 343 £2,870 £1,261 £8,367

2011-2012 242 £2,301 £247 £9,509

2010-2011 208 £1,613 N /A £7,755

2009-2010 229 £1,985 N /A £8,668

2008-2009 51 £481 N /A £9,434

Debt Dealt

W ith

Debt Dealt

W ith

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OUR OWN WORK TELLS US… Money Care Service

Welfare Benefit Advice

Year N o of Clients

£'000

2012-2013 332 £941

2011-2012 228 £576

2010-2011 270 £531

2009-2010 314 £525

2008-2009 288 £567

Total Gains

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BEDROOM TAX IMPACT - THE FIRST 10 MONTHS

Stock Numbers 19,026

Bedroom Tax Cases 1,792

Weekly HB Reduction £30,174

Annual HB Reduction £1,504,896

Amount Due April to January £1,146,633

Amount Collected £1,055,307

Collection rate 92.04%

Arrears Cases March 2013 740

Arrears Cases January 2014 1,231

Increase in Arrears Cases ( No.) 491

Increase in Arrears Cases ( %) 66.35%

Bedroom T ax

Group Summary - April 2013 to January 2014

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INVESTING TO MEET THE CHALLENGE

• We recognised that preparing tenants and staff would require investment

• £250k pa into the medium term

• Self financing if we achieve an increase of 0.26% in collection performance

BUT… its getting harder

• Court costs – potential increase to £240 per case

• ‘Real Life Reform’ – disposable income reduced to

£4.79 pw

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ENGAGING STAFF

• A positive approach demands organisation wide thinking – this is not just “credit control”

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SWAT – CONNECTING WITH TENANTS

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THE CUSTOMER IMPACT – PAYMENT PREFERENCE

Facility T ransactions Amount

£'000

Card 8,118 £1,459

Direct Debit 60,990 £5,845

DW P Direct 4,170 £53

HB Ad-Hoc Payments 2,360 £208

Automated Card Facility 17,746 £2,614

Internet 5,288 £790

Manual 3,650 £503

Post Office 90,174 £6,215

Paypoint 70,708 £4,258

Rent Collector 7,398 £453

Standing Order 58,357 £4,656

Rent from W ages 313 £80

T otal 329,272 £27,134

2012/13

GROUP PAYMEN T FACILITY USAGE

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WHAT WE’VE BEEN DOING (1)

• ‘Leaky pot’ – arrears recovery

• Increased staff resource

• Advance rents at sign up

• Review of pre-tenancy support

• Mobile working solutions

• ‘Expected payment’ facility

• Service charge scrutiny

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WHAT WE’VE BEEN DOING (2)

• Allocations review

• Alternative financial products

• Budgeting programme – MiNT

• Paperless DD….almost there

• Simplified Rent Statements online

• Continued staff involvement

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WHAT WE’VE BEEN DOING (3)

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GREAT OPPORTUNITIES Helping people into work

• 50 apprentices

• 198 work placements

• 137 households - family support programme

• 100 residents in ‘time banking’ project

• 13 work clubs (426 people)

• 118 into paid employment

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WORKING TOGETHER … WORKING WITH OTHERS

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WHAT WE’RE NOW DOING

Assessment against DWP criteria for APA Consider how we bridge the service gap Digital Inclusion Strategy Household Budgeting Keeping the message going – 2017

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WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP WITH DWP

• Easy “electronic” access to request alternative payment arrangements

• Influence in relation to alternative payment arrangements

• Full engagement in the migration process

• Data sharing – essential

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SUMMARY

• Low numbers – difficult to assess

• Arrears are increasing

• Costs will increase

• Full company engagement essential

• Data sharing is crucial

• People are individuals … individuals matter

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For any further information please

contact:

[email protected]

0161 331 2020

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24,000 Homes

London £220m Income

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June 2012

To

December 2013

Southwark

500 Tenants

1,500 Southwark

Demonstration Project

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- Transition

98% cumulative

Cash Collection

Started at 80/85%

Currently 101%

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Our Philosophy

• We were keen to do the pilot

• Direct financial relationship is normal

• Tenants are generally decent and manage themselves

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50% on HB

Half on partial HB = 75% (ish) already pay direct

What's your %?

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Know your customers better

Household composition

Vulnerabilities

Email address

Mobile phone number

Income Types of benefit

Payment method

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Staff Skills

Customer Focus

Negotiating Skills

Commerciality

Training

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Text

Cheque

DD’s

Payment Cards

Phone

Pay on the go app

Online

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Costs

• Some more staff

• Welfare Benefits and Financial Advisors, other agencies

• Changed DD arrangement – reduced cost 43p to 12p

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Technology

Expected

Payments

Focus on pace, low level

interventions

Texts – in advance as well as chasing

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Alternatives to Possession

Small Claims

Attachment of earnings

(if you know where they work)

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DWP

Data Sharing

- Change of circumstance

notification

- Rent claim verifications

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Credit Agencies

Rent paid = positive rating

Notifications

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How good are your non HB Arrears

Check yourself

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Transition to UC

New claims started

piecemeal

We are moving to

Direct from April 2014

+ 200 p.m.

Timetable to 2017 so 3 years

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Case Study 1

Background Female on full HB, DLA (disability living allowance) and Employment Support allowance. Low level arrears to start

Intervention Referred to our Tenancy Sustainment team, Housing deemed uninhabitable and signs of domestic abuse.

Outcome • Downsized

• Backdated discretionary housing payment

• Cleared arrears

• Classified as Tier 1

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Case Study 2

Background Male, not married, partial HB. Gave us wrong bank details for DD, confused by 28 day payment cycle then affected by 14% under occupancy

Intervention Followed our usual rent escalation policy but also advised re bedroom tax and applied for DHP.

Outcome Received DHP and cleared arrears now looking for a smaller property

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Case Study 3

Background Female, married and on benefits. History of court action and a suspended possession order.

Intervention Wouldn’t move to DD and didn’t trust the council, agreed to payment by telephone

Outcome Maintaining payments

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Supporting Older

People Conference

SP4: Welfare reform – the challenge ahead

Speakers: Julie Vickers

Director of Business Support New Charter Housing Trust

Ken Youngman

Group Finance Director Family Mosaic Housing

Chair: Kevin Williamson

Head of Policy National Housing Federation