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DCM/PoIitical Counselor/Country Team1. W hat is the GoC perception of the Terrorist threat? W hat is their approach to CTat home and abroad? Do you think there are any lessons for the U S in theirapproach?2 . Nature of US - Canadian relations on CTpre-9-11, since 9-11, today?3. What is the level of Embassy involvement on CT?4. How would you assess the quality of the guidance/direction you receive fromWashington from various agencies?5. Howwould you assess the quality of the US - Canadian intelligence and lawenforcement relationships?6. How w ould you assess the commitment of the GoC in support of US CT efforts athome an d abroad?7. How is the border security? Has there been progress? W hat are our/their futureconcerns?


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SUSLO

1 . You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9 - 1 1 , since, today?2. Quality of direction and guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CTStrategy? Do they?3.

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5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths an d weaknesses?6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency?

Others?7. Do you provide analysis?8. Reporting? Warning?


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Political Liaison

1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11, since, today?2. Quality of direction an d guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CTStrategy? Do they?3.

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5. GoC general organization in your area? Strengths and weaknesses?6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task your Agency?

Others?7. Do you provide analysis? Describe?8. Reporting? Warning?


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LEGAT1. You and you r coun terparts' relations on CT pre 9-11 , since, today?2. Quality of direction an d guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CT

Strategy? Do they?3. Howwould you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and lavenforcement?4. How would you assess the quality of inform ation sharing from Washington andUS? In the em bassy (Are there redundant functions?)? From other locations?5. GoC general organization in you r area? Strengths and weaknesses?6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task yo ur Agency?Others?7. Do you provide analysis? Describe?8. Reporting? Warning?


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DAT1. You and your counterparts' relations on CT pre 9-11 , since, today?2. Quality of direction an d guidance from your Agency? Did they have a CTStrategy? Do they?3. Howwould you assess the quality of US - GoC relations on intelligence and lawenforcement?4. How would you assess the quality of inform ation sharing from Washington andUS? In the embassy (Are there redundant functions?)? From other locations?5. GoC general organization in you r area? Strengths and weaknesses?6. Describe your role and any tasking? Process? Can you task yo ur Agency?Others?7. Do you provide analysis? Describe?8. Reporting? Warning?


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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVEQuestions for Canadian Governmental Entities

PCO's Deputy Intelligence Coordinator> W ho has the responsibility, authority, and accountability for counterterrorism inthe Canadian government in general and Canadian intelligence in particular?

Is there is a single person with complete control (including budgetary execution)over Canadian intelligence?

> Does GO C have an overall strategy for counterterrorism ?

What Canadian governmental entities are involved in counterterrorism, and howis interagency coordination accom plished? W hich are respon sible forintelligence on terrorism?

Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

Who is responsible for w arning on terrorism?

Is Canadian intelligence a "learning organization?"

Does the rise of transnational threats such as terrorism and proliferationnecessitate fundamental changes in government o rganization and functioning?

W hat is the nature of Canadian intelligence's liaison relationship with the U.S.?

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UNCLASSIFIED / COMMISSION SENSITIVEQuestions forCanadian Governmental Entities

Canadian Customs an d Revenue Agency> Who in the Canadian government is responsible for eradicating terroristfinancing, an d what is the Agency's role an d strategy fo r this?

> What is the Agency's strategy for border security, and how does the Agencybalance border security with the need to ensure efficient transit of cargo?

How does the Agency cooperate with other parts of the Canadian governmentand particularly Canadian intelligence - concerning counterterrorism?

> How does the Agency cooperate with U.S. government institutions such as theCustoms Service?

How does the Agency interact with the private sector, both U.S. and Canadian?



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PCO's Intelligence Coordinator (Oversight)> W hat is the mechanism by which the Prime M inister sets priorities for Canadianintelligence, and how often are those priorities updated?

> How does the Prime M inister conduct oversight of Canadian intelligence?

> How does the Prime Minister ensure that Canadian intelligence is devotingresources to the Prime Minister's priorities?

> How does Canadian intelligence perform strategic and tactical warning?

> What does the political leadership consider to be reasonable ex pectationsregarding Canadian intelligence's performance?

How are relations between Canadian intelligence and Parliamentary overseershandled?

Does Canadian intelligence conduct lessons-learned?Issues with privacy and civil liberties?



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Department of Finance1. To w hat extent, if any, is Al Qaeda raising funds in Canada today? Has thisfundraising decreased/increased since 9/11? Why or why not?2. Before 9/11 how much of a focus on terrorist financin g was there at theDepartment of Finance?

a. Specific entities or programs dedicated to terror finance (either in Financeor elsewhere)?b. Examples of specific pre-9/11 disruptions/prosecutions regarding terroristfinance?3. Since 9/11 what has changed with respect to counter-terrorist financingefforts?4. Pre 9/11 was the Department of Finance involved in the process to set counterterrorist policy? Post 9/11?5. Wh at is the process by w hich Canada can freeze assets of a terrorist entity?a. Level of proof necessary?b. Ability to use classified inform ation?

c. Any legal challenges?d. W hat is your view of the US process to designate entities for assetfreezes?6. W hat legal tools exist in Can ada to ensure that its financial system is not used

to move terrorist funds?a. How does Canada regu late charities to prevent the funding of terroristorganizations? Mosques?b. How does Canada regulate hawala and other informal value transfermechanisms?7. Does the Department of Finance believe international efforts to stem terroristfinancing, such as through FATF, Egmont G roup, UN Counter-TerrorismCommittee etc., are effective? How can they be improved?8. Are you satisfied with the level of cooperation between the USG and Canada

on counter-terrorist financing?a. Wh at can the US do to make it easier for you to cooperate with the US intracking or disrupting terrorist financing ?



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CSEHow is CSE tasked, and how does CSE balance between defense and 'national'priorities?

What priority is counterterrorism for CSE?

W ho conducts all-sources analysis using inform ation acquired by CSE?

> W hat is the relationship between CSE and other parts o f the Canadiangovernment such as Canadian intelligence?

How is CSE respo nding to the increasing com plexity and multiplicity oftelecommunications media?

> H ow does CSE cooperate with th e U.S. and other partners?

W hat laws govern CSE operations domestically? Information sharing withprovincial and local autho rities.



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Questions for Canadian Governmental EntitiesCSIS

> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> What priority is counterterrorism for CSIS?

> Does CSIS have a strategy for counterterrorism?

Who conducts "all-source" strategic intelligence analysis concerning terrorism,and does counterterrorism analysis require a distinct tradecraft?

> How does CSIS conduct warning on terrorism?

> What is CSIS's relationship to policymakers?

> What is CSIS's relationship with the RCMP and with the rest of the Canadiannational government?

> What is CSIS's relationship to non-national governmental entities?

> What is the nature of CSIS's cooperation with U.S. intelligence?> Any connection/relation to provincial and local governments?



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Discussion Draft - September 23,2003Canadian Domestic Intelligence and Law Enforcement Systems

Outline of Areas of Interest to Team 6I. Relevant History.

A. Extent to which the findings and recommendations of the MacKenzie andMacDonald Commissions and the Security Intelligence Transition Group Task Forceinfluenced or directed the establishment of the CSIS; what were the key failings that theCommissions identified that led to the need for a stand alone domestic intelligence agency.B. Were there other reasons for establishing a separate, stand-alone domesticintelligence agency;

C. Current criticisms or concerns, if any, with the efficacy of a separate, stand-alonedomestic intelligence agency that does not have law enforcement authority.D. Transition costs of creating a new domestic intelligence agency; are there particularreviews, after action reports, or other documents reviewing and assessing all of the costs(both financial and institutional).E. Extent to which the systems of other countries served as a model or guide to theestablishment of the current system.F. Overview of the process by which CSIS was created, organized, and staffed; whetherpersonnel were moved wholesale from existing agencies or newly hired.G. Role of the RCMP, if any, in the establishment, organization, and staffing of theCSIS.

H. Public perception and reality of civil liberties/privacy under this structure.II. Current National Strategy and Priorities.

A. Overall missions of CSIS and RCMP and how they differ

B. How CSIS and RCMP developed their approach to detecting, deterring, and preventingterrorism.C. Where do counterterrorism responsibilities rank in priority for CSIS and RCMP, andwhat are the organizations' other priorities.D. The relationship between CSIS/RCMP and policymakers, including the extent to whichCSIS/RCMP activities are driven by national-level priorities, and the extent to which theykeep policymakers informed as to the results of their investigations.

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E. The relationship between CSIS/RCMP and other federal agencies.F. The relationship between CSIS/RCMPand state and local law enforcement entities, andthe existence of any "task force" entities, in particular how information is shared betweennational and subnational entities.

III. Organizational and Jurisdictional Issues.A. The structure and organization of CSIS and RCMP intelligence functions, including HQand field elements;

1. Whether the CSIS and RCMP have personnel in each of the provincesor whether they rely on law enforcement or other government personnel tocollect intelligence andmanage investigations on their behalf.2. The role of CSIS and RCMP HQs in controlling and directing fieldcollection and investigations, and the relative autonomy of the field personnelin running their own investigations and programs.

B. CSIS and RCMPs' presence outside of Canada, and the role of these personnel incollection, analysis, dissemination and liaison.C. Jurisdiction of CSIS/RCMP vs provincial and local law enforcement entities and otherCanadian federal agencies.

IV. Operational Issues.A. Collection.

1. Policies, regulations and other laws governing the collection of information during CTinvestigations for CSIS vs. RCMP personnel, focusing on any differences between the twoorganizations.2. The process through which decisions are made to initiate and close investigations, and whodecides whether CSIS or RCMP (or both) should have responsibility for particularinvestigations. Do they run parallel investigations on the same subjects, and if so, how theseare coordinated.

3. What are the primary techniques used by CSIS and RCMP to collect information on CTmatters, including source development, electronic or physical surveillance, open sourceinformation, liaison information, etc. and how are decisions made regarding which techniquesto use.4. To what extent do CSIS and RCMP have field and/or HQ "case agents" who are responsiblefor individual investigations, and how this system functions.

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5. Policy or legal impediments for either RCMP or CSIS to effective and aggressiveinvestigation of international terrorism cases, focusing on any differences between the twoorganizations.6. Specific steps CSIS and RCM P have taken to ensure that civil liberties are protected duringthe course of their investigations, focusing on any differences between the two organizations.7. Aggressiveness of RCMP and CSIS investigation of religious figures and religiousinstitutions, focusing on any differences between the two organizations.8. Extent to which CSIS and RCMP are able to penetrate the radical Islamic communities intheir territories, and any legal, policy, or other obstacles to effectively doing so.

B. Processing.1. Policies, rules, and regulations for processing information collected during the course ofCSIS and RCMP investigations, and how this actually occurs.2. Into w hat databases do CSIS and RCMP input all information developed during theirinvestigations, and to what extent is this centrally managed, and accessible to all CSIS/RCMPpersonnel. C. Dissemination/Information sharing.1. Policies, rules, and regulations for disseminating/sharing in forma tion collected during thecourse of CSIS and RCM P investigations, how this actually occurs, and any particularly notableimpediments or legal prohibitions to information dissemination (particularly focusing on anylegal prohibitions on information sharing between CSIS and RCMP).2. What type of products and information are disseminated/shared both within C SIS and RCMPand outside of the organizations.3. What information CSIS and RCMP receive from other federal agencies and provincial andlocal law enforcement entities, and how they receive this information.4. The existence of a C SIS and RCM P "reports officer" cadre; the background, training, androle of these personnel.

D. Analysis.1. The roles of the CSIS and RCM P analysts, including any differences in how they are utilized,their training, their backgrounds, and career opportunities.

' 2. To what extent are CSIS andRCMP analysts involved in setting collection priorities anddriving investigations. Describe the process by which they produce new collection leads orpriorities, including specific instances where the analysts actually helped direct the collectionpriorities. Do CSIS analysts support/assist RCMP investigations, and/or do RCMP analysts4 9/24/034:59 PM


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assist/support CSIS?3. Differences in the functions of CSIS and RCMP HQ vs. field analytic personnel.

4. To what extent to CSIS andRCMP analysts - field and HQ - produce strategic and tacticalanalysis?

5. To what intelligence information do CSIS and RCMP analysts have access, what type ofproducts do they produce, and who are their primary customers (including policymakers, CSISand RCMP executives, and HQ and field investigators).6. The training, background, career opportunities for RCMP and CSIS analysts

E. Language Translation.1. The role of CSIS and RCMP language personnel in their investigations, and the extent towhich they are kept fully abreast of investigative and programmatic developments.2. The extent to which they are utilized in an analytic capability (beyond mere translation).3. The training, background,and career opportunities for RCMP and CSIS languagepersonnel.

F. Surveillance.1. The role of CSIS and RCMP surveillance personnel in their investigations, and the extent towhich they are kept fully abreast of investigative and programmatic developments.2. The training, background, and career opportunities for surveillance personnel at CSIS andRCMP.G. Management and Resource Allocation.1. The extent to which RCMP and CSIS personnel specialize in CT/national security matters andthe promotional opportunities available to them.2. Any hiring and/or retention issues in the CT/national security area.

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RCMP> Why did Canada separate law enforcement from domestic intelligence?

> W hat priority is counterterrorism for the RCMP?

> Does the RCMP have a strategy for counterterrorism?

> Does the RCMP conduct strategic analysis, and if so, how? What is the historyof the RCMP's intelligence unit, includin g why the RCM P recentlyreconstituted it?

> What is RCMP's relationship with CSIS and with the rest of the Canadiannational government?

In the U.S., there is a debate about whether the FBI's law enforcement cultureand posture can be changed to a more prevention-oriented culture; does theRCMP face similar questions regarding its law-enforcement-oriented culture?

Wh at is the RCM P's relationship to non-national governmental entities?

Wh at is the nature of the RC MP 's cooperation with U.S. law enforcemen t?



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Questions for Canadian Governmental Entities Security Intelligence Review Committee

> What is the Committee's jurisdiction andhistory, and what are the rules formembership? What staff support does the Committee receive?

> How does the Committee relate to other committees with jurisdiction over partsof the Canadian government concerned with national and homeland security?

> What are the mechanisms by which the Committee conducts oversight of theCanadian intelligence apparatus?

> What influence does the Committee have over Canadian intelligence'scounterterrorism activities?

> How is the effectiveness of Parliamentary oversight of intelligence measured?



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Foreign Affai rs (Security and Intelligence Bureau)> Does Foreign Affai rs conduct i ts own strategic analysis of terrorism?

Does Foreign Affai rs task Canadian intelligence for support, and how does itevaluate the support it receives?

Do diplomats collect information fo r other government agencies?

Wh a t is Foreign Affa i r s ' role in warning on terrorism?

> Does Foreign Affai rs have a relationship with th e U.S. State Department'sBureau of Intelligence and Research and/or Ambassador-at-Large fo rCounterterrorism?

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Canadian Imm igration and C itizenship> Please provide an overview of Canadian im migration programs tha t are the m ost

likely portals for terrorists to enter Canada.

> Does Canada have a terrorist w atchlist, and what is that watchlist's relationshipto the U.S. government's watchlist?

> What is your relationship with CSIS and the RCMP?

> What is the nature of your relationship with the U.S. Dept. of HomelandSecurity on immigration issues?

> Is law enforcement allowed to investigate immigration violations, or are lawenforcement and imm igration enforcement kept separate - as in the U.S.?

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