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Page 1 26/03/12 THE ANCESTRY OF ''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''' KERR AIM: to trace the KERR ancestry back through the paternal line as far as possible. This report is the result of approximately 7 hours research. Records searched 1. Since 1855 in Scotland it has been compulsory for all births, marriages and deaths to be recorded. The birth, marriage and death certificates are held in the General Register Office for Scotland (GROS) and are accessible via their Scotlandspeople service. It is possible to search just the indexes to the records without viewing the full certificates. 2. Before 1855 registration of births or baptisms, marriages or marriage banns and deaths or burials was the responsibility of the Church. The records of the Church of Scotland, known as Old Parish Records (OPRs), and the Catholic Church Registers are also available through the Scotlandspeople service. However, because registration was not compulsory these records are not always complete – either because people chose not to inform or involve their local minister or priest, sometimes the minister or priest chose not to record all the details and some records no longer exist. The information that was recorded can vary from a lot of detail to just a basic list of names. 3. Censuses have been taken every 10 years throughout the UK since the early 19 th century but only since 1841 have they included any useful information. That said, the 1841 census lists only name, sex, age (rounded down to the nearest 5 for those over 20), occupation and where the person was born, though that information is limited to whether they were born in the same county if in Scotland or if they were Foreigners, English or Irish. Later censuses provide increasingly more information. Census data is available through the Scotlandspeople service, though only up to 1911 as census data is not made available publicly for 100 years. 4. In addition to the above records, information can be found in a variety of other locations. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a large number of transcriptions of records from around the world which are available through their Family History centres and Familysearch web site. The Ancestry web site also has transcriptions of some Scottish census records. As every direct male ancestor is called by the same name (David Kerr) I have added a number to each one and have appended two charts at the end of the report to assist your understanding.

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THE ANCESTRY OF ''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''' KERR

AIM: to trace the KERR ancestry back through the paternal line as far as possible. This report is

the result of approximately 7 hours research.

Records searched

1. Since 1855 in Scotland it has been compulsory for all births, marriages and deaths to be

recorded. The birth, marriage and death certificates are held in the General Register Office for

Scotland (GROS) and are accessible via their Scotlandspeople service. It is possible to search

just the indexes to the records without viewing the full certificates.

2. Before 1855 registration of births or baptisms, marriages or marriage banns and deaths or

burials was the responsibility of the Church. The records of the Church of Scotland, known as

Old Parish Records (OPRs), and the Catholic Church Registers are also available through the

Scotlandspeople service. However, because registration was not compulsory these records are

not always complete – either because people chose not to inform or involve their local minister

or priest, sometimes the minister or priest chose not to record all the details and some records

no longer exist. The information that was recorded can vary from a lot of detail to just a basic

list of names.

3. Censuses have been taken every 10 years throughout the UK since the early 19th century but

only since 1841 have they included any useful information. That said, the 1841 census lists

only name, sex, age (rounded down to the nearest 5 for those over 20), occupation and where

the person was born, though that information is limited to whether they were born in the same

county if in Scotland or if they were Foreigners, English or Irish. Later censuses provide

increasingly more information. Census data is available through the Scotlandspeople service,

though only up to 1911 as census data is not made available publicly for 100 years.

4. In addition to the above records, information can be found in a variety of other locations. The

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a large number of transcriptions of records from

around the world which are available through their Family History centres and Familysearch

web site. The Ancestry web site also has transcriptions of some Scottish census records.

As every direct male ancestor is called by the same name (David Kerr) I have added a number to

each one and have appended two charts at the end of the report to assist your understanding.

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Introduction '''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''' Kerr was born on 1 November 1896 in Uphall, West Lothian (copy of

certificate supplied). This shows his father was David Kerr and his mother was Mary Kerr m.s.

Richardson and that his parents were married on 25 March 1892 in Uphall, West Lothian.

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1. David Kerr (1) Using the information provided on George Richardson Kerr’s birth certificate to locate David’s

marriage certificate provides the following information (extracted):

25th March 1892, at Broxburn after Banns According to the forms of the Church of Scotland.

David Kerr, miner, single, age 25 of Broxburn, son of David Kerr, Pitheadman, and Margaret

Kerr, m.s Galloway (deceased).

Mary Richardson, single, age 24 of Broxburn, daughter of George Richardson, Miner,

(deceased) and Janet Richardson, m.s. Lawson.

Witnesses: John Veitch and Janet Richardson

Officiating Minister: Wm Johnston, Minister of the Parish of Uphall

Registered: 29 March 1892 at Broxburn.

Ref: ''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

From this and his death certificate (copy of certificate supplied) it is possible to estimate that David

Kerr(1) was born in approx. 1867. In fact he was born in 1866 in West Calder as is shown in his

birth certificate (extracted):

David Kerr, born 26 September 1866 at 32 Tweed Street, West Calder

Parents: David Kerr, Shale miner and Margaret Kerr m.s. Galloway

Married on 28 February 1865 in West Calder.

Reported by: David Kerr, father on 6 October 1866 at West Calder in the County of

Edinburgh.

Ref: '''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

The information about his parents confirms that given in his 1951 death certificate (copy certificate

supplied).

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David and Mary lived with their family in Greendykes Road, Uphall as can be seen from the census

records of 1901 and 1911 (extracted).

1911: Greendykes Road, Uphall, Linlithgowshire.

House with 3 rooms with windows, with 10 people in the house.

David Kerr Head 44 Mar Shale Miner Mineral Oil Industry worker B. West Calder

Mary “ Wife 46 Mar (for19 years, 10 children 8 still living.) B. Bathgate

Janet “ Daur 17 B. Uphall

George “ Son 14 Boreworker “ “ “ “ B. “

James “ Son 10 School B. “

Maggie “ Daur 8 School B. “

Isaac “ Son 6 School B. “

David “ Son 3 B. “

William “ Son 1 B. “

David “ Father 67 Widr Pitheadman “ “ “ “ B. Kirknewton

Note: Mar = married, Daur = daughter, Widr = Widower, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

Their son Andrew appears in the 1901 census but not the 1911 so it is possible that he is one of

the children counted as no longer living in the 1911 census. This could be further investigated in

the future to be confirmed.

1901: 57 Greendykes Road, Uphall, Linlithgowshire.

In a house with 2 rooms with one or more windows

David Kerr Head Mar 34 Shale Miner worker B. West Calder

Mary “ Wife Mar 35 B. Bathgate

Janet “ Daur 7 Scholar B. Uphall

George “ Son 4 B. “

Andrew “ Son 2 B. “

James “ Son 3 mos B. “

Note: Mar=married, Daur=daughter, mos=Months, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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Mary died on 11 May 1917 (extracted).

Mary Kerr, married to David Kerr, Shale Miner on 11 May 1917 at 74 Greendykes Road,

Broxburn, age 52.

Parents: George Richardson, Shale Miner (deceased) and Janet Richardson m.s.

Lawson (deceased)

Cause of death: Carcinoma of peritoneum. Carcinoma of liver. As certified by Alexr Scott

MBChB

Reported by: David Kerr, Widower (present) on 12th May 1917 at Broxburn

Ref: '''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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2. David Kerr (2)

David(1)’s birth certificate provides the information that his father is also called David and his

mother is Margaret Galloway and that they were married in 1865. Searching for a marriage record

of a David Kerr to Margaret Galloway produced no results. However there is a marriage listed for a

David Kerr to Catherine Galloway in 1865, the details of which are (extracted):

As further confirmation that this Catherine is the same as the Margaret listed elsewhere, searching

for other children provides the details for their first child, a daughter Margaret. Her birth certificate

states (extracted):

This certificate states that the date of the marriage of David Kerr and Margaret Galloway is January

rather than February, but as the birth was reported by the child’s grandmother this may have been

a simple mistake on her part.

28 February 1865 at Westmuir, West Calder After Banns according to the forms of the Church

of Scotland

David Kerr, Farm Servant, Bachelor, age 19, of Westmuir, West Calder, son of David Kerr,

mason and Catherine Kerr m.s. Crawford

Catherine Galloway, Farm Servant, Spinster, age 17, of Westmuir, West Calder, daughter of

Andrew Galloway, miner and Margaret Galloway m.s. Johnstone.

Witnesses: James Falconer and Margaret Kerr

Officiating Minister: William Learmouth, Minister of West Calder

Registered: 5 March 1865 at West Calder

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

Margaret Kerr, born 19 March 1865 at Wallacestone, Polmont

Parents: David Kerr, Ploughman and Margaret Kerr m.s. Galloway

Married 28 January 1865, West Calder

Reported by: Margaret Galloway, Her X Mark, Grandmother, present, witnessed by J G

Glen, Registrar on 6 April 1865 at Polmont.

Ref: '''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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As they were married in 1865 the first census they appear in as a family is 1871 living in Shotts,

Lanarkshire (extracted).

Then they appear in Slamanan, Stirlingshire in 1881(extracted).

The 1871 census lists a son named Andrew age 2 and the 1881 also lists a son named Andrew

age 2. A quick check using Familysearch and the Scotlandspeople indexes shows that there was

an Andrew Kerr born 4 Aug 1868 to David Kerr and Margaret Galloway, likely to be the one listed

in 1871. However there is a death listed in the index of an Andrew Kerr, in Shotts, age 5 in 1874

which is likely to be this child – though the certificates would need to be checked to confirm this.

There is a birth listed in the index of an Andrew Galloway Kerr in 1878 in Shotts, Lanarkshire which

is likely the Andrew listed in the 1881 census – though again the certificate would need to be

1871: Muirhead, Shotts, Lanarkshire

In a house with 2 rooms with one or more windows

David Kerr Head 23 Labourer B. Kirknewton

Marg. “ Wife 22 B. Polmont

Marg. “ Daur 6 Scholar B. “

David “ Son 4 B. Kirknewton

Andrew “ “ 2 B. Shotts

Catherine “ Daur 9 mos B. “

Note: Daur=daughter, B.=Born in

Ref: ''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

1881: No 65, Limerigg, Slamannan, Stirling

In a house with 2 rooms with one or more windows

David Kerr Head Mar 40 Banksman B. Kirknewton

Margaret “ Wife “ 36 “ wife B. Polmont

Margaret “ Daur Unm 16 Dressmaker B. “

David “ Son 14 Coal miner B. West Calder

Catherine “ daur 10 Scholar B. Shotts

Helen “ “ 6 “ B. Shotts

Andrew “ son 2 B. Shotts

James “ “ 9 mos B. Muiravonside

Robert Hamilton Lodger Widr 43? Blacksmith B. New Monkland

Note: Mar=married, unm=unmarried, mos=months, Widr=widower, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''' ''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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checked to confirm this.

By 1891 the family was in Uphall, Linlithgowshire (extracted).

As can be seen from the above 3 census records and the birthplaces of the children, the family

appears to have moved around quite a lot. This may have been as a result of David searching for

work, as he is listed initially as a farm servant & ploughman, then as a labourer before gaining work

in the mines.

David’s wife Margaret is listed in 1881 census but not in 1891 so she must have died after 1881

but before 1891. This is confirmed by her death certificate from 1885 (extracted).

The names of her parents are not exactly the same as those listed on her marriage certificate. Her

mother’s maiden name is listed on her marriage certificate as Johnstone and on her death

certificate as Sime but having checked on Ancestry, Familysearch and Scotlandspeople indexes

for other information relating to Andrew Galloway and his wife I believe Sime or Sim, as it is

occasionally listed, is correct. Johnston may simply have been recorded incorrectly by the registrar

1891: Bone Mill Close, Uphall, Linlithgowshire.

In a house with 1 room with one or more windows

David Kerr Head Widr 47 Pitheadman Employed B. Kirknewton

David “ Son Unm 24 Shale Miner X B. W. Calder

Helen “ Daur 16 Dressmaker X B. Shotts

Andrew “ Son 14 Shale miner (unemployed) B. Shotts

James “ “ 10 Scholar B. Muiravonside

George “ “ 8 “ B. Slamannan

Note: Widr=widower, Daur=daughter, Unm=Unmarried

Ref: ''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

Margaret Kerr, married to David Kerr, Pitheadman, on 16 January 1885 at Limerigg, Parish of

Slamannan, age 37

Parents: Andrew Galloway, Coal miner, deceased and Margaret Galloway m.s. Sime

Cause of Death: Phthisis 2 months as cert by John Boyd MD

Reported by: David Kerr, Husband on 16 January 1885 at Slamannan.

Note: Phthisis is tuberculosis or consumption

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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at the time of her daughter’s marriage.

David appears in the 1901 census, still in Uphall, living with his youngest son, George (extracted).

1901: No 12 Kennedy Square, Uphall, Linlithgowshire.

In a house with 1 room with one or more windows

David Kerr Head Widr 57 Pitheadman worker B. Kirknewton

George. “ Son Single 18 Mine Labourer worker B. Slamannan

Note: Widr=Widower, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

David is also listed in the 1911 census (see above for David (1) on p.4) living with one of his other

sons in Uphall.

David died in Bathgate on 23 February 1930 as shown below (extracted).

David Kerr, Pitheadman (retired), widower of Margaret Galloway, on 23 February 1930 at 6

Deans Rows, Bathgate, age 87

Parents: David Kerr, general Labourer (deceased) and Catherine Kerr m.s. Crawford

(deceased)

Cause of Death: Old Age, as cert by John F Lang MBChB

Reported by: George Galloway Kerr, son, present, on 24 February 1930 at Bathgate.

Ref: ''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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3. David Kerr (3) David(2)’s marriage certificate provides the information that his father is another David and his

mother is Catherine Crawford. According to the Old Parish Records their marriage banns were

read in Kirknewton on 12 February 1837 (extracted)

Kirknewton February 12th 1837

These certify that David Kerr and Catherine Crawford both residing in E Calder in this parish

were regularly proclaimed in order to marriage and no objections offered.

A Shand S. Clerk

Ref: ''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

As they were married in 1837 the first census they appear in is 1841 (extracted).

1841: Parish of East Calder, Midlothian

David Kerr Jun 30 Mason B. in this county

Catherine Crawford 30 B. in this county

Thomas Crawford 15 B. in this county

Margaret Kerr 3 B. in this county

Helen Kerr 1 B. In this county

Note: in 1841 the ages of everyone over 20 were rounded down to the nearest 5, B.=Born in

Ref: ''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''' ''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

David is listed here as David Kerr Jun(ior) because his father is also listed on the same page of the

census (see extract on p. 15).

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This should give us a date of between 1806 and 1811 for David(3)’s birth but I found it in 1804 in

Carnwath, Lanarkshire, which as we will see later (in 1851 census on p.16 ) is his mother’s

birthplace, and not in East Calder as it suggests in the 1841 census (extracted).

Carnwath 1803 &1804

David Son to David Kerr & Helen Haddow B. 21st January B. 4 March

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

The 1841 census lists 2 children whose baptisms can be found in the Kirknewton parish records

(extracted).

Kirknewton May 20th 1838

This day David Kerr, Mason in E. Calder, and Catharine Crawford his spouse had a child

baptized in Church by the Rev D Livingston by name Margaret – born on the 21 March last.

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

Kirknewton 14th June 1840

This day David Kerr, Mason E. Calder and Catherine Crawford his spouse had a child baptized

in Church by the Rev Dr. Simpson Mintr named Helen. Born on twenty third May last.

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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The family then appear in the 1851 census (extracted)

1851: East Calder, Parish of Kirknewton and East Calder.

David Kerr Head Mar 46 Mason (Journeyman) B. Carnwath

Catherine “ Wife Mar 48 B. Mid Calder

Margaret “ Daur 13 Scholar B. Kirknewton

Helen “ “ 9 “ B. “

David “ Son 7 “ B. "

Note: Mar=married, Daur=daughter, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

This census lists their son, David(2), aged 7, born in Kirknewton who must have been born in circa

1844 but so far I have been unable to find a record of his birth or baptism.

The family next appear in the 1861 census, again in East Calder (extracted)

1861: East Calder, Parish of Kirknewton and East Calder

In a house with 2 rooms with one or more windows

David Kerr Head Mar 57 Mason B. Carnwath

Catherine “ Wife Mar 60 B. Mid Calder

Hellen “ Daug Unm 20 B. East Calder

Note: Mar=married, Duag=daughter, Umn=Unmarried, B.=Born in

Ref: ''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''' ''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

David, their son, does not appear with the family in 1861, but is not yet married. I searched the

Ancestry transcriptions for a David Kerr born between 1842 and 1846 and found 18 in Scotland.

Eliminating the ones not listed as being born in Edinburgh or Edinburghshire, and the ones listed

as sons of another couple leaves 4.

1) David Kerr, born c. 1844 in Lasswade, Edinburgh, a Law Clerk, living as a lodger with Elizabeth

Horn and her family in Govan, Glasgow.

(Ref: ''''''''''''''''' '''''''' ''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''' (Ancestry transcription))

2) David Kerr, born c. 1843 in Kirkliston, Edinburghshire, a Servant (carter), living with Alexander

Wright and his family in Colinton, Midlothian.

(Ref: ''''''''''' '''''''' ''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''' (Ancestry transcription))

3) David Kerr, born c. 1844 in Edinburghshire, an Agricultural Labourer, living with the Walker

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family in North Mains Farm, Linlithgow, West Lothian.

(Ref: ''''''''''''' ''''''' '''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''' ''''''' (Ancestry transcription))

4) David Kerr, born c. 1844 in Currie, Edinburghshire, a Ploughman and Hay Carter, living with

Elizabeth Russell and her family on Dales Farm in Whitburn, West Lothian.

(Ref: ''''''''''' ''''''' ''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''' (Ancestry transcription))

While it is not possible to say which is definitely correct, it is unlikely to be the first one given the

information we have about his birth and his later life as a farm servant and miner. We can

probably also eliminate numbers two and four because of the information about birthplace – from

later census returns we know “our” David was born in Kirknewton. That leaves number three as

the most likely, but it will need more research to see if there is any way to confirm this.

Then in the 1871 census (extracted)

1871: Kirknewton and East Calder

In a house with 2 rooms with one or more windows

David Kerr Head Mar 67 Stone Mason B. East Calder

Catherine Crawford “ Wife Mar 70 B. Mid Calder

Margaret Kerr Daur Un 33 Domestic Servant B. East Calder

Hellen “ Daur Un 30 “ “ B. “ “

David “ Grandson 9 Scholar B. “ “

James “ “ 6 “ B. “ “

Catherine Crawford Gran dau 2 B. “ “

Note: Mar=married, Un=unmarried, Daur=daughter, Gran dau=Grand-daughter, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

It is not clear who is/are the parent(s) of David and James Kerr and Catherine Crawford. Based on

earlier censuses David Kerr and Catherine Crawford only have one son, David, who, in 1871 is

married to Margaret Galloway and living in Shotts (see extract on p.7) and their children David and

Catherine are listed as being with them on the night of the census and are different ages than the

ones listed above. It may be possible with further investigation to find out whose children they are.

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Neither David nor Catherine appear in the 1881 census so they both must have died after 1871 but

before 1881. Their death certificates confirm this (extracted)

Catherine Kerr, Married to David Kerr, Mason on 10 February 1873 at East Calder, Parish of

Kirknewton, age 74

Parents: Robert Crawford, Miller (deceased) and Margaret Crawford m.s. Boag

(deceased)

Cause of Death: Senile Debility, six weeks. Not certified.

Reported by: Davie Kerr, Husband, Present on 13 February 1873 at Kirknewton.

Ref: '''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

David Kerr, Journeyman Mason, Widower of Catherine Crawford, on 23 April 1877 in

Livingstone Village, age 73

Parents: David Kerr, Journeyman Mason (deceased) and Helen Kerr m.s. Haddow

(deceased)

Cause of Death: Paralysis (Hemiplegia) 4 months. As certified by Alexander Mason MBChB

Mid Calder

Reported by: David Kerr, Son, Eastfield, Shotts on 24 April 1877 at Livingstone

Ref: ''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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4. David Kerr (4)

From the birth and death certificates of David(3) we see that his parents were David Kerr and

Helen Haddow. I can find no record of their marriage in either Kirknewton and East Calder or

Carnwath, or indeed anywhere in Scotland. I have, however, found information about the births of

5 other children besides David on Familysearch transcriptions. There will be copies of these in the

Old Parish Records on Scotlandspeople, but time did not allow for them to be located and viewed.

They are (extracted)

In Kirknewton

Catharine Kerr, born 25 February 1810, baptized 6 May 1810

Robert Kerr, born 5 August 1813, baptized 29 August 1813

John Kerr, born 7 August 1815, baptized 1 October 1815

Margaret Kerr, born 26 Mar 1819, baptized 2 May 1819

Alexander Thornton Kerr, born 3 January 1822, baptized 14 April 1822

Ref: Source film no ''''''''''''''''''''. (Familysearch transcription)

David and Helen appear in the 1841 census living in East Calder with one of the children listed

above, Alexander, and another one whose record I have not found, William.

1841: East Calder

David Kerr S 50 Mason J B. in this county

Helen “ 50 B. in this county

Alexr “ 18 Mason B. in this county

William “ 15 B. in this county

Note: in 1841 the ages of everyone over 20 were rounded down to the nearest 5, B.=Born in

Ref: '''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

David is listed here as David Kerr S for Senior as his son is also listed on the same page of the

census (see extract on p. 10) and he is listed as David Kerr Jun.

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David and Helen also appear in the 1851 census (extracted).

1851: East Calder

David Kerr Head Mar 67 Mason / Journeyman B. (too faint to read)

Helen “ Wife Mar 67 B. Carnwath

Note: B.=Born in

Ref: ''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''' '''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

I found no record of David or Helen in the 1861 census which suggests they both died after 1851

but before 1861. I can find no record of Helen’s death, which suggests it may have been before

1855 and was not recorded in the parish records. I did however find David’s death recorded in

1855, which was a real bonus. When compulsory registration was introduced in 1855 a large

amount of information was recorded for each death. Unfortunately, much of it was dropped from

the form the following year. See below (extracted)

This confirms and adds to the list of children previously identified.

David Kerr, Mason, on 29 January 1855 in East Calder Village, age 84, born in East Calder and

spent his whole life in East Calder.

Parents: David Kerr, Mason (deceased) and Catherine Kerr. Maiden Name Thornton

(Deceased)

Married to: Helen Kerr, Maiden Name Haddow

Children: David, 51

Janet, 49

James, 47

Catherine, 45

An infant dec at 3 weeks

Robert, dec at 18 in 1831

John, dec at 18 in 1833

Margaret

Alexander

William, dec at 17 in 1848

Cause of Death: Old age and weakening, Not Certified, No Medical Attendant

Buried: East Calder Churchyard, as certified by David Garlick, Undertaker.

Reported by: David Kerr, son on 30 January 1855 at Kirknewton.

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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5. David Kerr (5) From David(4)’s death certificate we see his parents are David Kerr and Catherine Thornton. Their

marriage banns were recorded in the Parish Records of both Kirkliston and St. Cuthberts in

Edinburgh (extracted).

Kirkliston, 14 February 1767

David Kerr in the Parish of West Kirk, Edin & Katharine Thornton in this Parish Gave their

Names for Proclamation in order to Marriage

Ref: '''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' ''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

David(4)’s death certificate also gives an indication of his birth in circa 1771. It was in fact

November 1772 as can be seen from the Parish Record (extracted).

Kirknewton, Nover 27 1772

This day David Ker and Ketheren Thornton had a child born and Baptised the same month

named David.

Ref: '''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' '''''''''''''. (Scotlandspeople)

As a bonus, on the same page as David’s baptism there are also another four children of David

and Ketheren recorded (extracted)

Kirknewton, Defember 9 1767

David Ker and Ketheren Thornton his spouse had a child Born and Baptised in the same month

named James.

Ref: '''''''''''''''' '''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 12 February 1767

David Kerr, Mason at Castle Barns and Cathrine Thorntoun, Daughter of Alexander Thorntoun

at Kirkliston.

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''' ''''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

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Kirknewton, Jannruary 2 1770

This day David Ker and Ketheren Thornton his spouse had a Child Born and Baptised the same

month named Margret

Ref: '''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

Kirknewton, Agust 18 1778

This day David Ker and Ketheren Thornton his spouse had a Child Born and Baptised the same

month named John

Ref: '''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' '''''''''''' (Scotlandspeople)

Kirknewton, Subter 18 1780

This day David Ker and Ketheren Thornton had a Child Born and Baptised the same month

named Alexander

Ref: ''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''Scotlandspeople)

Finally, in addition to these children I located 2 later ones through Familysearch transcriptions.

There will be copies of these in the Old Parish Records on Scotlandspeople, but time did not allow

for them to be located and viewed. They are (extracted)

At Kirknewton

Jannet Ker, baptised 15 July 1783

Robert James Buchan Ker, baptised 25 August 1786.

Ref: Source film no '''''''''''''''''''''' (Familysearch transcription)

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Suggestions for further areas of research

1) Extend the research on siblings. This would perhaps help answer some of the questions raised

during this research about some of the children in each generation.

2) At the time of his marriage in February 1767, David(5) is listed as living in Edinburgh, working

as a mason at Castle Barns there. Though in December of that same year his son, James’,

birth was registered in Kirknewton. It may be possible to find out more about him as a mason,

and why he was in Edinburgh at the time of his marriage, where and for whom he was working.

3) So far the research has been to trace the KERR line back, it could be expanded to cover the

female lines within the Kerr ancestry (i.e. Mary Richardson, Margaret Galloway, Catherine

Crawford, Helen Haddow, Catherine Thornton)

4) During our discussions you mentioned stories from your mother’s family and a possible link to

the Douglas family. This obviously would be another possible area of further research.

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Direct Line of Descent

from David Kerr(5)

to ''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''' Kerr

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Full Decendent Chart from David Kerr(5)