the andhra pradesh legis!ative assembly debates

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Book 3

21st March, 1984

Wednesday

1 Chaitra, 1906 S. E.

THE ANDHRA PRADESH

Legis!ative Assembly Debates OFFiaAL REPORT CONTENTS

PACES

!. Oral Answers To Questions 217

2. Short Notice Questions And Answers 254

3. Business of the House ... , 263

4. Matters Under Rutc 329

Re : Cheating of People by Hyderabad Public Welfare Chit Fund. 265

Re : Social Hoycot of Rajaka Families

in Pydurupadu Village and State-wide ' Dharna by Rajaka Sangham. 283

Re : Strike By The Workers of the Ajamjahi Mills, Warangal. 239

(Contd on 3rd Cover)

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Association, NcMom.

A N D H R A P R W S H L! G!S! Ai!\r \SSt M! J Y

Speaker

Deputy Speaker

Panel of Chairmen

Secretary :

Deputy Secretaries :

Assistant Secretaries !

Chief Reporter

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6. SiiP. Ramarhandht ih'tL!*

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. i. Sri N, Tattahhi Ha^a Ha^

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3* Sn P,V,K,I,N,\\ K;^ha\a Sarm

4 Sn K.V, N. Ap{^Rao

5. Sri V* V, SubrnhmanyiHH

6. Sn V, V. Bhas^m R^p

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C O N T E N T S - (Contd)

5. CtMiii;? Attention Matters

Re : Indiscriminate increase in

price of Cement.

Re : Irregularities in submitting

Annua! Returns by the Management of

Andhra Pradesh Carbides Limited.

Re : Nonbreaching of Benefits of the

Subsidy given"tmdcr D. R. D. A. Loans

to the Real Beneficiaries.

THE LKDHRA PRADESH LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY DEBATES

OFFICIAL REPORT

Twenty Third Day of the Fourth Session of the Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly.

ANDHRA PRADESH LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY

WEDNESDAY THE 21st MARCH, 1984

The House met at Half-past Eight of the Clock

(MR. SPEAKER IN THE CHAIR)

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.

SFIZING OF HUGE QUANTITY OF GH\NJA FROM

A LORRY NEAR VARDANNAPETA 211-

* 4320-(H)-Q.-Sarvasri Macherla Jagannadham, (Wardhan-napet) B. Sammaiah, (Parkal) and S. Santosh Reddy, (Armoor) Will the Chief Minister be pleased to state :

(a) Whether it is a fact the Police have seized 'bhang (Ghanja)' in the large quantity from the lorry which fell down near Yardannapeta because way ; Warangal district in November 1983 ; and

(b) the total quantity of ghanja seized together with its value ; the places from which and to which it was being transported ; whether the persons who are involved in transporting this bhang have been arrested ?

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PROGRESS OF VISAKHA STEEL PLANT 212—

+944-Q -Sarvasri V. Ramabhupal Chowdry, (Kurnool) and Vasantha Nageswara Rao, (Nandigama) : Will the Chief Minister be pleased to state ;

(a) whether it is a fact that the State Government are lagging behind in providing the infrastructure for Visakha Steel Plant ; and

(b) if not, the progress made in the execution ofYeles-waram Reservoir Scheme which supplies water to Visakha Steel Plant ?

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KEEPING V A L U A B L E M A C H I N E R Y IDLE IN GOVT. PRINTING PRESS, H Y D E R A B A D

213— ^2579—(F)—Q,—Sarvasri N. Raghava Rcddy, (Nakrikal)

M. Omkar^ (Narsampet) and Smt. Mallu Swarajyam (Tungathurty) Will the Chief Minister be pleased to state ;

(a) whether it is a fact that valuable machinery worth lakhs of rupees imported from West Germany is lying idle at Government Printing Press in Hyderabad :

(b) if so, the reasons therefor : and

(c) the steps taken by the Government to ptit it to use ?

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Unless a specific question is asked, I will not be in a posi

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CLOSING DOWN THERMAL POWER STATION AT RAMAGUNDAM AND POWER STATION AT MINT

COMPOUND, HYDERABAD. 214-

*4185—Q.—Sri N. Indrasena Reddy, (Malakpet) : Will the Minister for Finance and Power be pleased to state ;

(a) Whether there is any proposal to close down the Thermal Poyer Station at Ramagundam and Power Station at Mint Compound, Hydeiabad;

(b) if so, the reasons therefor;

(c) whether the staff and officers working in the above two power statons will be absorbed somewhere; and

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F O R M A T I O N O F S E C O N D R & B DIVISION

IN A N A N T A P U R DISTRICT 215—

*2614-(J)-Q.- Sarvasri G.Nagi Reddy (Dharmavaram), T. C. Mareppa (Kalyanadurg), V. Kesanna (Girantla), and K. Ramachandra Reddy (Nallamada) Will the Minister for Works be pleased to state:

(a) whether it is a fact that there is only one R & B Division for Anantapur district-works costing of about Rs. 2 crores 20 lakhs annually;

(b) whether it is also a fact that the work load is heavy and that the existing division could not cope up with the work and utilise the funds allotted resulting in the laps of funds with the result that the development in the district is retarded; and

(c) whether the Government will form a second division ?

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SUPPLY OP WATER TO TAIL-END LANDS OF NANDIGAMA

AND JAGGAIAHPET TALUKS 216—

*H57—Q— Sri Vasanta Nageswara Rao :- Will the Minister for Works be pleased to state :

(a) the steps taken by the Government to supply water ti j;he tail-end lands of Nandigama and Jaggaiahpet taluks under the left cannal of Nagarjunasagar; and

(b) by what time the work will be completed?

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CREATION OF INDEPENDENT — R U R A L WATER SUPPLY AND RIGS DEPARTMENT

217 —

* 4318 (U)-Q-Sarvasri Md. Rajab Ali, G. Mallesh (Arifabad) V. Abbaiah, (Burgumpahad) Bhupati Rao (paler) and Gangmem Venkateswara Rao :- Will the Minister for Panchayat Raj be Pleased to state:

(a) whether it is a fact that the Andhra Pradesh (RWS) Rigs Employees Union has demading to create an independent Rural water Supply and Rigs Department seperately like Tamilnadu and Karnataka ;

(b) Whether it is also a fact that the employees of Andhra Pradesh (RWS) Rigs Employees are participating in buadhs and hunger strikes to solve their Pending Problems;

(c) has the Government received any memorandum from the said employees, union regarding their pending problems; and

(d) if so, the action taken thereon?

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INTRODUCTION OF SLAB SYSTEM IN PANCHAYATS WITH HIGHER INCOME FOR PAYING PUBLIC

CONTRIBUTION 218—

"1744-Q -Sarvasri K. P. Reddaiah, (Vuyyur) D. L. Ravin-dra Reddy, (Mydukur) Y. S. Rajasekhara Reddy, (Pulivendla) K. Nagarjuna Reddy (Cumbum) and Majji Narayana Hô :-Will the Minister for Panehayat Raj be pleased to stê :

(a) whether it is a fact that the Government hag decided to exempt the villages which had an annual revenue of less

Oral Answers to Questions 21st March* 1984 - 235,

than Rs. 10,000/- from paying public contribution in respect of Protected Water Supply schemes;

(b) if so. how much will be the additional expenditure to the Government ;

(c) whether there is any proposal to introduce a slab system in Panchayats with higher income ; and

(d) if so, what is the criteria ?

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FLOURISHING OF COUNTRY LIQUOR BUSINESS IN

TWIN CITIES 219—

* 2596 -(K) Q. — Sri G. Butchai h Chowdary (Rajamandry) Will the Minister for Excise be pleased to state :

(a) whether it has come to ttte notice of the Government that country liquor business is flourishing in the twin cities and the neighbouring areas ;

(b) whether it is a fact that the Government are sustaining crores of rupees loss of excise revenue on account of this country liquor business; and

(c) if so, the steps taken by the Government in view of the fact that not only the Government are losing revenue; but lakhs of people are losing their lives and health ?

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D E V ELOPMENT OF P O C H A M P A D , NIZAM S A G A R ETC,

PLACES AS TOURIST RESORTS 220—

* 3767 Q. — Sri M. J. Thomas Choudary :- Will the Minister for Tourism be pleased 'to state ;

QUESTION

a) Whether the Government are aware that Pochampad, Nizamsagar and several other places in Nizamabad are worthy for being considered for development as Tourist Resorts ;

b) Whether the Government have taken any steps so for to develop them as Tcurist resorts ; and

c) If not, whether the Government will permit private individuals to provide Tourist Centres ?

(Minister for Tourism Sri Mohd. Shakir)

Yes Sir,

Pochampadu where irrigation project i$ coming up and Nizamsagar Project are worthy to develop as Tourist resorts-


There are two guest houses of Irrigation Department at Nizamsagar which could be used by the visiting Tourists also. The State Tourism Department has taken possession of two acres of land at Nizamsagar for construction of a Tourist Rest House. Further works could not be taken up for want of funds. Providing Tourist facilities at Pochampadu by the Tourism Department will be considered depending upon the availability of funds.

If any private enterpreneur comes forward to provide

Tourist facilities their request will be considered.

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L. A. Q. P O S T P O N E D P R O M 20-2-84 86—

EXTENSION O F SRTSAILAM R I G H T C A N A L

U P T O CHITTOOR DIST.

*1354: Sri G Muddu KrishnamaNaidu(Puttur) :- Will the Minister for Works be pleased to state :

(a) whether it is a fact that the previous government promised to give Krishna water to Rayalaseema ie. for Kurnool,


Anantapur, Cuddapah and Chittoor districts and Srisaiiam Right Canal will be taken up to Chittoor District; and

(b) if so, the steps taken by the present Government to extend Srisaiiam Right Canal up to Chittoor district?

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SRI K. N A G A R J U N A R E D D Y : There are number of

statements coming daily from different quarters. Why are you

^ keeping the Legislators and the public in dark ?

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â§ ^yô od^ g&g a*aa *ô^â§ (fgco & ) o&rcr" ? wo4S

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L. A. Q. POSTPONED FROM 27—2—1^84

ASSISTANCE TO SAV^RA COMMUNITY OF

GIRIJANS OF PARLAKIMIDI

2583 (E) : Sri B. Sammaiah : Will the Minister for Social Welfare be pleased to state :

(a) whether it is a fact that 8 0 % of the people living in Pariakimidi belonging to the Savara Community of Girijan-s, are facing many hardships without getting any help from the Government as no Go\t. Officials \isited the place so far;

(b) whether the Government will take steps atleast n o w to send a special officer to that place to enquire about the conditions of the Girijans there and extend required assistance to them ; and

(c) if so, the steps proposed to be taken by the Government ?

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354 21st March, 1984 Short notice Questions and Answers

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S H O R T NOTICE QUESTIONS A N D A N S W E R S

EVASION O P T A X E S 220—A

S. N. Q. No. 4326- V : Sarvasri K. Srinivasarao, (Ungu-turu) K. Vidyadhar rao, (Chantalapudi) Ch. Vcnkafeswara Rao, (Tanuku) Vasantha Nageswaraiao, G. Syama Rao, (Palakonda) Will the Minister for Finance be pleased to state :

(a) whether it is a fact that the Commercial Tax Officer, Eluru has seized lorry tyres and tube sets of Modi and other companies brought from Selvasa, a place in Union Territory of Goa in the last quarter of 1983 and in January, 1984 ; and

(b) if so, action taken by Government to levy sales-Tax thereon and to plug the loopholes in evasion of taxes due to State Government ?

(&) 5=3 a^dRo 90S* Ro-g^S"* 3&o&.

03J" * )E\

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13)26, &^gK0OD, tyT)

Short Notice Questions and Answers 21st March, 1984 255

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(§) ,3. s M ^ a r ^ S * (Rata) :- ^5 sligl tly diffeient question

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The grace should not be lost.

SRI N . B H A S K A R A R A O : I understand the difficulty. Government has already taken a decision, Cabinet has taken a decision, to impose only single point tax. I don! know why the officers are beha\ing like this. If it is not lifted by this evening, 1 will take necessary action against the officers. The Government has already taken a decision and informed the authorities concerned.

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8§ a<5**a<);33 ?y^?

What is the agency that has enquired in to this ?

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&o^. sr^ ^cco?y oar* <S^sa 838g)^^<^ oj^^f^^ ô&)^ goaoR

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^ ô. *2.oSfd^g^dio^ :. s$)oa rr3 ^^r?-ô ^r^for?

O .ethmg is clear. That does not Prohibit to bring these articles fi jHi the other States if there is less tax or no tax.

6oy* oar sSRSonof ^SjJ* ;$6jo^!yâ3 <9o*& câ <^x$3^ eor O. sr5

There should be some name whether it is fictitious or some other name.

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93 <&S^ ^^S"J^ ^6S aocrg). 5^ 0)oôC^ 5 a§ &o^0: as3

ab^3§ Xsoôaoô^ oo^ i3*§ )j6§agâ§ âa &ocrO 5c??

Sri N. Bhaskara Rao :-

Transport Corporation of India, Hyderabad

Economic Transport Corporation, Blum

South Eastern Roadways, Vizag

Commercial goods and Tiansport Company, Vizag

Freight Carriers, Hyderabad.

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258 21st March, 1984 Short notice Questions and Answers

PROMOTIONS IN IRRIGATION D E P A R T M E N T IN

10-20 a.m. VIOLATION OF THE SENIORITY H X E D 220-B

S. N. Q. No. 4326-0 : Sarvasri NaHapareddi Chandrasekhra Reddi ( venkatagiri) S. Prakasam; (suHurpet) M. Adinarayana Reddy; (Kandukur) J. Masthanayya; ( Gudur) K. Kala Venkata Rao; (venukur) will the Minister for works be pleased to state:

(a) Whether it is a fact that inspite of fixing specificalty the seniority between the limited recruitment candidates ( Scheduled-Casts) recruited in pursuance of memo. No. 4665/Scr. IV/79-8/ 14-8-81 of Irrigation Department, the Assistant Executive Engineers regularised under G. 0. No. 647 and the up graded supervisors, some of the up graded Supervisors, who are junhrs have been pro moted in violation of the seniority fixed;

(b) the reasons for not- implementing the policy of the Government;

(d) whether it is also a fact that the Asst, Executive Engineers in zones I to IV have been subjected to grave injustice theieby;

(d) the reasons for not implementing the order issued by the High Court on 3-2-M4 regularising the seniority so far: and

(e) the objection for filling up of the remaining vacant posts with the Limited recruits, who are seniors?

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SRI M . V E N K A I A H N A I D U : I would like to bring to your notice one important question that has taken place....

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M R , S P E A K E R : Y o u can go and verify. It is a public document. (interruptions)

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SRI M . R A G H A V A R E D D Y : Point of order, Sin

M R . SPEAKER: I have seen the notice.

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M R . SPEAKER: I did not admit also (interruptions)

SRI D. K. S A M A R A S I M H A R E D D Y : I dont knoy? why they are not interested about our powers. W e have no right to function as legislators if this is agreed to.

M R . SPEAKER : You gave the notice and I have to examine the admissibility. By this notice you want to discuss the Supreme Court order so, whether this House... (interruptions)

SRI D. K. S A M A R A S I M H A R E D D Y : I don't want to discuss about the Supreme Court order. I am making just as a reference of the situation that has arisen and the consequential effect.

M R . SPEAKER : Before that I will see the admissibility.

SRI D. K. S A M A R A S I M H A R E D D Y : You go through May's Parliamentary Practice. I will quote from authorities. The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction. W e have our own powers. W e should not be subjected to any sort of surveillance by any authority. , * (interruptions)

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SRI M. V E N K A I A H N A I D U : I am on a point of order.

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It is something new. ôâ^R.

M R . SPEAKER : You gave notice. I have to see about its admissibility.

SRI M. V E N K A I A H N A I D U : But not discuss in the House

M R . SPEAKER: W e are not discussing. He raised the issue.

SRI M . V E N K A I A H N A I D U : He can ghc n.tice. The Member is right in giving a notice, in asking your permission to move the motion.

MR.,SPEAKER: I have equal right to decide about its admissibility.

. SRI M . V E N K A I A H N A I D U :- Sir, the practice is - when the Hon'ble Speaker gets a doubt, about the admissibility of the motion, as a normal practice, the Hon'ble Speaker reads the notice in the House-then asks the leaders of the Opposition and other Members of either stde about their \icws.

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M R . SPEAKER:- Anyway I will examine the issue and decide - whether it is eligible or not. Then we can discuss about it.

SRI M. V E N K A I A H NAIDU:- Sir, a point of submission on a different matter. I have already given notice regarding the illegal arrest and detention of a news correspondent yesterday in Adilabad by the police and the subsequent release of the same gentleman by the Superintendent of police, when intcifered by some people regarding the accesses. I only request you to kindly direct the Government to get the matter investigated and then come prepared to the House to-morrow.

SRI D. K. S A M A R A S I M H A R E D D Y :- Sir, because one of the Hon'ble Members have raised the point, I would like to mention it. It is not new for this House to discuss like this. On umpteen occasions Mr* Venkaiah Naidu has given notice and raised in the zero Hour and we discussed about this issue in the house. I do not know why m this case a special step is taken in this house on this iosuc? wh^ they want to make a separate issue?

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Public Welfare Chit Fund.

M R . S P E A K E R :- Anyv.ay, I said -1 will go throught it.

SRI. M . V E N K A I A H NAIDU:- Sir, now the question is about the discussion of admissbility. Nothing more than that. H o w can I say when the Hon'ble Member is bringing a relevant issue of the privilege of the Members and the House i§ concerned? Moreover, how can I object it? I am only objecting to the procedure adopted!

M R . S P E A K E R ;- Yes, anyway I will go through it.

SRID. K . S A M A R A S I M H A R E D D Y ;- Sir, otherwise it wHl become stale.

M R . S P E A K E R :* The Government will take note of it.

SRT N. B H A S K A R A R A O :- Sir, I wiM take note of it.

M R . S P E A K E R :- N o w letus take up the matters under Rule ?29 please.

M A T T E R S U N D E R R U L E 329

Re- Cheating ofpeople by Hyderabad Public Welfare Chit Fund.

SRI S. JAIPAL R E D D Y :- Sir, this issue has been sufficien t!y highlighted through various news items in the press. The Hyderabad public Welfare chit Fund has cheated hundreds of subscribers. They have not only cheated through the chit Funds but they have also floated another company- L & G., Finances Company Limited. According to the information reaching us, the swindle involves a huge amount - may be of the order of Rs. 5 to 6 crores.

The Hyderabad Welfare Chit Fund company has been able to carry on their nefarious activities for the last so many years with perfect impunity. It has not been able to honour its legitimate commitments for the last one year and more. I do not know what the authorities concerned have been doing? I do not know who is the authority which is really competent to deal with this problem ?

The cheated people have gone and made a representation to the Hon'ble Chief Minister, co the Inspector General of police, to the Inspector General of Registrations, to the Minister concerned and to all other authorities. But no attempt was made by the city police to apprehend these culprits. And the city police appears to have taken a number of steps only after they left Andhra Pradesh, possibly the whole country! Sir, these* two gentlemen, who have been managing this show appear to have disappeared from the country itself ! That is the reason why the Government has not yet been able to apprehend them.

During the last one year these culprits had taken all precautionary steps to liquidate their' assets. They disposed off one property after another. So, what is the kind of people that have been

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cheated ? Widows - poor people - the middle class salanates-

:tnd all such poor people and middle class, were cheated. This could be the stoyy with many other Chit Funds '

Therefore there is e\ery need to take deteirent action. Têre is need even to contact Interpol to find out their where abouts. They] could be in the Middle East. They could be any where i,i the World but there is a provision to institute extradition proceedings and everything must be done to bring them back to the country and bring them to book.

I would therefore request the Hon'ble Minister to explain to this House as to the steps they have been taking.

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SRI N. BHASKARA RAO :- Sir, with your permission, I will make my statement in English.

The Hyderabad public Welfare chit Fund, Himayatnagar, Hyderabad is registered as a firm, under the Indian patnership Act, 1932 - as No.61 of 1981. It was located at House No: 3/6/369/ A/26 in Himayatnagar, Hyderabad. The partners were Sri Lateef Ahmed Khan, son of Sri Mohd. Khan; Sri Ghouse Ahmed Khan, Son of Sri Mohd. Khan. The same partners, were engaged, apart from Chits,in several other business activities, namely:-

a) L. & G. Finances b) Hyderabad public welfare Housing Company

Private Limited. c) L & G Apartments.

^nd d) Film—e—thasveer.

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The activities of the above firms and companies (a) to (d) do not come with in the preview of the chit Pui*ds Act. In so for as the Ch3t Activities were concerned, the finn was running 32 groups of chits, at the time of its closure. A D theasc 32 groups are of 40 members each and chit each amount ranged from Rs. 5.000 to RS.20,000.

For running these chits, an amount of Rs. 1,30,000 is deposited by the Chit Fund Company with the Chit Re^isttar, in the shape of Fixed Deposit Receipts as srct'rily u-ider ^e provisions of tne Act.

N o complaint or adverse reports were unci cd cn^'er ahout its Performance. O n 12-9-1983 one complaint was leccived from some subscribers. O n the same day, the decerned offfujr was instructed to inspect the records. O n 15-9-19H3 he inspected the records of the company and recommended for winding up of the Chit Fund Company under Section 3S (d) of (he Act. Aftn examining the records, the concerned officer felt that windin" up of the Chit Fund was necessary. In the meanwhile, on 2(/-9-l b3 the complainants themselves requested not to take a^y actio i on their complaint till 7-11-1^83 as the foreman had promised them to pay the amounts due to them. Not with standing the request of the complainants, stpes were taken for winding up of the chits run by the foreman for the irregularities noticed during the inspection, on 5-10-1983, the concerned officer was requested to send further details to file the case in the court for winding up the company. After receipt of the proposal, permission necessary for winding up of the company was given by the Government. But the court was closed for vacation from 1-1-1984 to 15-1-1984. The Petition for winding up the company was therefore filed immediately on re-opening of the court onl6-l-1984 in the City Civil CourtJIydera-bad and the case was taken on record as P. S R. No. 2!/84. Since the parties were absconding, the court ou!d nit serve the summons en the party. The summons sent by the Court were returned un-served as the where abouts of the partv were not a^ aitable.Steps were taken to publish necessary proclamation in the newspapers on 17-3-1934. The Court is seized of the matter and the winding up process of the company is in progress.

The probable amount of the public cheated under Chit Fund is about Rs.21,60,000. As against this amount, security deposits ti a tune of Rs. 1,30,000 are avilable. The complaints were also advised to file criminal complaints withthepolice for fraud and cheating since these offences come with i& the purview of

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Indian Penal Code under sections 406 and 420. The Commissioner .f M i c e was also addressed to apprehend the culprits and prosecute them for cheating the public.

Three cases of crimes are under investigation to arrejt theas3 accused On information tint they are av iable at Ajmer and Bidar, police parties were sent but the accused could not be traced. Ail efforts are being made to prevent them from going abroad. Information was furnished to all Sea - ports and A H Air Ports n India. Passport authorities were addressed to cancel tneir passports. They wrote back to the Police saying that they should get the crder from the Court. The Police are mo\Lig the Court to irpound their passports. Ti ?y were also advised to file civil suits in the competent courts for breach of contract according to the terms < f the agreement entered L'to by them wi?h the Chit Fend Company. However, the Branch Managers of Canara Bank, Basheerbagh, Narayanaguda, State Bank of Hyderabad, Tank-bund a<*J TamilnaduBank, Basheerbagh, with whomethe Chit Fund foreman had accounts, were addressed not to allow any wLhdiawal of money until further intimation in the matter. The amounts in the banks at the credit of the firm are very meagre. All the F. D. Rs available were frozen and the records were seized.

SRI S. JAIPAL R E O D Y :-1 know how the Finance Minister is feeling shy to refer the case about which he himself would not have any confidence.. .

SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O :- With full confidence. I a m making this statement based on the material available.

According to the provisions of the Andhra Pradesh Chit Funds Act, 1971 for most of the contraventions of the Act, a maximum punishment possible under the act is levy of a fine of Rs. 100/-. In fact, one chit fund owner who is a very wealthy man, has said that his hand is there in the preparation of the Bill during a particular Chief Minister's regime. According to the said Act, the Chit Registrar cannot compel payment by the person running the chits to the subscribers or vice versa. The running of the chit business is a contractual obligation between the foreman and the subscriber. In the byclaws of the Chit, the foreman proposes the conditions according to which he wants to run the chit. In the chit agreement the foreman and the subscribers enter into an agreement and the chit will be run on the terms and conditions agreed to in the chit agreement and byelaws. If there is a breach of contract, the aggrieved can go to a court of law for the performance of the terms of the agreement.

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Public Wetfare Chit fund

Tnc said Act provides for registration of bye-laws, filling or chn agreements, filling of minutes substitution etc.. by the foreman. If there are irregular entries in filling these returns, the foreman is liable for action for which the court can levy a maximum penalty of Rs. 100/-. The present Act is found to be ineffective in protecting the interests of the concerned- More active part other than being a mere lecordmg agency is not contemplated by the Act on the part of the Department. In case of fraud, deceit, practised either by the foreman or subscriber, they can go to court of law and the records available with the department are of evedential value only. Since there is no uniform law on chit funds, the Centre had enacted a legislation making it applis cable for the entire country. The implementation of the Act is deferred until the House Committee of the Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council concludes its deliberations.

In the discussions of Legislative Council recently, it was examined by the members how the present Act on Chit Funds was infirm and ineffective, In view of the infirmity of the present Act on Chit Funds, the Chairman of the Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council nas appointed a House Committee to go into the working of the Chit Funds in the State and to suggest measures for the better working of the Chit Fund Companies and to protect the interests of the subscribers.

SRI S? JAIPAL R B D D Y :- Sir, I am really astounded that the Minister should have read out such a lengthy statement for such a hollow cause. The Minister confessed that the passports are not still impounded. According to us, the culprits have already escaped from the country itself and the Banks were addressed to ^n respect of non-withdrawal of deposits after the deposits had been withdrawn. Thirdly, he referred to the complaint. If one complaint was launched and if the authority concerned had checked the accounts, found the accounts to be so faulty as to warrant winding up of the company itself, I do not know how the withdrawal of complaint by the complainant would warrant withdrawal of the case itself. A n individual complaint can always be managed by a company which is run by such cheats as these two gentlemen. The Minister was generous enough to disclose to the House that one owner of a chit fund company had in fact bragged and said that he got the 1971 Act enacted according to his wishes, needs, whims and fancies during the regime of a particular Chief Minister. So, the Minister should be able to to take the House into confidence and say as to who was that cMner of the Chit Funds who bragged like this and who was the great Chief Minister

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who held to be managed so conveniently by this owner of the Chit Fund Company? W e saidt hat the INTERPOL must be contacted and if necessary extradition proceedings must be instituted, we also plcaced that action must be taken against all such officials, police and otherwise who have been guilty of dereliction of duty or guilty of collusion in the matter. The Minister has not answered those points. H e has merely read the prepared statement. W e do reiterate and seek clarifications for the points raised. Let the Minister be directed to answer as the Members raise their points.

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M R . D E P U T Y SPEAKER: Now, Mr. Madan Mohan.

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N : - Sir, I first stood up and since you had asked Mr. Jaipal Reddy to speak, I sat. Then Sri Raghava Reddy spoke. If you are not allowing me to <speak, I have no objection. But preference should be given to the Opposition leader and this is not the way. I have no complaint against the mover.


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SRI M . V E N K A I A H N A I D U :- Sir, I have no objection in giving preference and time to the Leader of the Opposition because he is more senior to me.

SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O : - It is a small thing. E\en in ?29s, since the Opposition leader wants to say something, preference should be given to the Opposition leader.

SRI M . V E N K A I A H N A I D U :- Sir, I cannot agree with the Minister since it is not in practice for rule 329^

SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O :- Normally, Sir, next to the Chief Minister, leader of the House, immediately after that, it is the Opposition leader who would come. It is parliamentary practice.

SRI M . V E N K A I A H N A I D U :- It is with regard to speeches or debates.

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N :- Sir, do I have the permission of the Chair ? W e are fighting like children and I expect my friends to be more mature and gracious in understanding things This does not add to anybody's prestige including myself or other friends who are disputing on this small thing.

SRI M. V E N K A I A H NAIDU:- I take strong objection to this. What is Childish ? Is this maturity and is it the way to question about other Members ?

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N :- I have stood with the permission of the Chair.

SRI M. V E N K A I A H N A I D U :- I am asking the direction of the Chair in this regard. As per the parliamentary practice and rules and conventions, the Member who has given notice, he must be given preference even before the Chief Mimster. W h y it is that the Finance Minister is not allowed to make the statement first, it is because rule says the Member first should raise the matter. If he says, it is childish, who is childish ?

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N : - I have no regrets to what I have said already. I have employed the language very carefully.

^ SRI M . V E N K A I A H NAIDU:- I only want that the Speaker should give a ruling on this. If it comes to that, then there is no necessity for anybody to give notice and you might go by practice.

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SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N :- It is a matter of convention, it is a matter of adjustment. I said it is a small thing. On a number of occasions, I allowed other Members to speak earlier. Here I sought the permission of the Chair.

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SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N :- I never said that. Please do not put words into m y mouth which I never said. If they can recall my conduct during the last two sessions, they must be able to realise

SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O '- I wiM answer each and every point raised—whether it is beginning or after

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N :- It is civil liability The Hon. Minister read out extensively the Laws of contracts. What is civil liability and criminal liability ? It is entirely different this statement only entails the procedure which has been laid down as per the Act which is in force ? Though there is civil liability, that does not prevent the Government or the police to take criminal action against these persons when a case against them has been registered. Under Sec. 406 & 420 For the last 20 days, no action was taken against them, though these matters were brought to the notice of the police much earlier. How the Government will come permission for these people to leave our country and why the police have not tried to trace them out. The Government should have been more vigilent in this case. Let the Minister distinguish between the civil and criminal liability in this case. I am not questioning about the civil liability-Whether the Government have given effective instructions in these regard and supposing the criminal liability is there,t hen what action the Government is going to take in the matter ? So, the Government have to take all these things into consideration and it should look into all these aspects. The Government cannot absolve its responsibility. Otherwise, if would be considered as dereliction of the duty on behalf of the Government and more particularly by the police department

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*As I said earlier, as for as these facts are concerned, ^ am not disputing with the Minister.

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W h o are the officers investigated this matter ?

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in view of the seriousness involved in the matter, will he order for re-enquiry into the matter ?

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A Minister cannot take the House for granted. He was good enough to disclose the piece of information liberally. Therefore, he has morally and legally taken the House into tota} confidence.

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Re : Strike by the woiking of the Azam Jahi Mills, Warangal from 14-3 1984

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Theiefore, give direction to the management and see that the

workers are paid their T\ages.

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Calling Attention Matters 21st March, 1984 295

re : Indiscriminate increase in price of Cement.

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re * Indiscriminate increase in price of Cement.*

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296 21st March, 1984 Calling Attention Matters

re : Indiscriminate increase in pnee of Cement.

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CaHing Attention Matters 21st March, 1984 297

re * Indiscnmiaate increase in price of Cement.

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cry* s$B)&<y^8b* &^ b^^ e^ systematic plundering is going on.

There is an understanding between manufacturers of the cement and the Central Government through the Regional Controller at Madras.

298 21st Maich, 1984 Catling Attention Matters

re * Indiscriminate increase in pi ice of Cement.

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Market depends upon conditions, seasonal fluctuations, supply and demand. So, that cannot be linked. The Central Government, has nothing to do with the State Government. The five to six lakh tons of cement allotted by the Central Government, we are distributing equitably.


re : Irregularities in submitting Annual Returns by the management of Andhra Pradesh Carbides Limited.

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re : Irregularities in submitting Annual Returns by the i management of Andhra Pradesh Carbides Limited.

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(Mr. Speaker in the chair)

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1) ^ ^ o ^ o a . o^S'tS'^^f^ô^*^ d^ôâ a.37,26,95!eo, i!) L rj^ <3u<R eo"& This is a joint sector company and joint

venture with A. P. I. D. C. I stand for correction. General sales tax as v^H as Central Sales Tax aie being collected by our department, but money will go to them.

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SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O : - Normal registration certificate is not cancelled for non-payment of tax by a dealer or company.

302 21st March, 1984 CaHing Attention Matters

re : Irregularities in submitting Annua! Returns by the management of Andhra Pradesh Carbides Limited.

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^ t y ^ . 8 Ro^cearr 8M5* ^ . c y D ^ ^^ RRg ^

(?s^r^ 3sD^p (res^wâ *&^ 3&âS. He is the sitting Member.

Without the prior permission of the chair...

(Interruptions) .... ao<b#s$^ ...,

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(Jailing Attention Mattel s 21st March, 1984 303

te : Irregularities m submttting Annual Returns by the management of Andhra Pradesh Carbides Limited.

liBoR^c 1L$ tb:ij (3a3og)o. ^°)jr^^go ^ 5$rgb ^ o ^)oR â

tj?rj ojo(jr> ^c3o& "M3*3 sSôt), °j83o ^ c x ) ^ oxxr <3)3<?a<SrRo

SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O :- It is quasi-judicial function. They are quasi judicial functions. Penalties to be levied will be examined and considered by assessing authority. Even the Minis-* ter cannot directly interfere m such matters, because authority empowered is different.

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ô"& i). . c& < 7rgby ^d^p^), <wo4S sS S* dg^So sS^yô ccoc?^.

But assessments are still pending of this company.

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^ ? a*aS s*tRg3 !5 enr&ol) ^ o ^ ^ g ^6)§^^^ ?

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^sr?o a*a s&ota??aa sra r , §^&êr, a ^ôR&r-as i)c&^&, s?& (gslrô Esââ? M<^....

304 21stMaieh, 1984 Calling Attention Matters

re : Irregularities in submitting Animal Returns by the management of Andhia Piade^h Carbides Limited.

M R . SPEAKER : It is not relevant also.

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(§) . $y^dcp^) :- 3*3o *30ô^^^p. Kf^ <Lr 30Mo<3

s? o l3"& ^ ^ d ) . ^r^ oÔjco, ^ o85 ?So^(ra) o^^rv o<^C^

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g Sb. ^s^dbfSo Sgf ud&Poo*& S) dSoo 5 o ^ u^RS^jS ^ ^ o

CO. €T* ^&ô&3)J^ R5y)3*a.

SRI P. R A M A C H A N D R A R F D D Y : Most propably this may be A. P. I. D. C. joint \enture 5 1 % of A, P. I. D. C. share arc there. It is a company. Original owner was diffcicnt. It is under company's law. Company properties are responsible. Rajasekhara Reddy may be a Member or P. C. C. President is irrelevant. Let us not go on that. Let us stop it. It is a company. Company's properties are there which is responsible for payment. It is almost a Government company with major shares. Let us not waste time on that. Let us stop at that.

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(§j t3 $3*3*0 :. upgîE, 329 SjoR ^ ^ 3x3)3 ^geo....

(interruptions)

SRI N. B H A S K A R A R A O : I will clarify the position. Since the hon'Me Speaker has already given time for one hou?His.-cussion I wdl get all the information from the inception of the company.

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(b30"§) o^^ô Slr<^M 3*5 * oo < ^ ^ ^ ^)ÔD. ^ o c r ^ egoxxR) 1 ) ^

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3 ^ s M j R ôO^rÔS), ^ ^ 6 * M ^ R ^ ? S o ^ ^ o ^ ?g^r^3o

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g^^^S ^êb :. src ^ § 5 . ^ , RdRâ ^ 5 * ^ o &

r^ *3. ny7v^ *B& : ôd^^ ? ô&) *ts& ^^ ^?S ^d)5y^ - 3 3

K?g& <ô^^ 53^yô oj?^^ ?

M R . S P E A K E R : I am very sorry. You must follow the procedure. Only signatories are allowed. That is all.

($; *3. 3*71*353 *5<3 :- M ^ & S <3RR ?

M R . S P E A K E R : I know who are the signatories. You cannot question me.

(§) *S. 3TP3SR *S& :„ There are only five signatories.

306 21st March, 1984 Calling Attention Matters


<ag^% s3)oa.

a)3a &\3R :. &oa.

M R . SPEAKER : Nothing doing. Please sit down. No please. You are not the signatory. I am very sony.

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aiRf ^^5*:^ bSo ^ 3 ^ oo) *& e$o<X83 oosrÔ, eR ^ § o

SRI K. N A G A R J U N A R E D D Y : Have you given me permission or not ?

SaRaS Rng'ta :. s; ) § ^ c r M a-36 M$yô o 5 .

How can you question me.

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ox) !yg)§ tgas-'g'o o& &!&^^M e&yô ^)o6. 3*8*03* a7â&S,

&j(S5 ^ co)ô&, §x?So ox)^&. They are signatories.

^ ^ ^

^ R & ^ 3 & :. ^ ^ e^ &33S 13 *3 <R&y. ?

You must follow the pYocedwre.

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^ ^ ^ g o e%6s*3fo 0D3^&X) S ^ & 3 . ^Co & ) & s*(R), §b& ^$r

You are not the signatory.



o o R ^ S ^ ^ R ^ R R . areata &.jS$fo3.

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zy. 2- ^- ^^^^ ^& :- <9%gS. 1^^ ^ ^ H ^ ^ f ^ l ^ &

co3^-\^srO.

M R ib^3S :. Nothing is said against you.

s*syoo1b g r ^ & o ^ 6Mo&. If you still feel, I will give an oppor

tunity for a personal explanation.

^ a a a ^

Even then I said it is itrelevant. What is it?

RcgSlSa aySô&. ^ igr^&o^ ^rô&.

If you still feci that you require an opportunity for personal explanation, I will give.

( g o a K s ^ )

RoR5* ^ 5 " : - ca^NysaTpR, What had happened.

§^& ^r<%o&* If you still feel the necessity for a personal

explanation

3*36 S^R) CRôR. 9&*;&.

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N : Speaker Sir, what is your ruling?

ô*& <y& ^ & coôG. 9&*& ^ ^ o z r .

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N : There are many Menders who are saying that his name has been mentioned.

M R . SPEAKER: In what connection.

Bi&pg a2&o*&. oaRR 3 3*380 ^ 3 5 . 5?6 ^ ^ <3& a7?3o.

Then I held that it is irrelevant.

308 21st March, 1*384 Calling Attention Matters

re : Irregularities in submitting Annua! Returns by the management of Andhra Pradesh Carbides Limited.

RpgoR, Proceedings arc there. If you fee) you wanttoghc

personal explanation...

^ ^ 5 * ^ ^ : . e dj* y ^ o ^ ^ S , ^ 03j°tT ^ RT'ji al).

I promise to give you an opportunity if you fee! for a persona! explanation.

*t& ^ ^ ^ d ^ o 1LD0K)& J^ 3sy)Ro O35f\o .

Unfortunately at that time i was not in the House.

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5 o co)?So^ ^^RS* yaafg^& M ^ O . ^ 0 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ S * &L^ ojsR^

^d*o 03j° o ey ^6r? e^Rdo e^ô^yTY^.

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cr. ^ J)S. o-^w^*3& :* ^ g ^ , d d & ^ ^ r ? eô nS^y*

ô&. Sir s)^S"^ âcDOô^ 3s&gg 5 gOy6.

Somehow or the other it has come up.

€35 ?S& a^R ^ o ^ *agn§" ^ ^ y ^ f ^ * & ^ ^ cn)^ô t9XiX$%3$r

Nothing is said against you.

I may be allowed to give that personal explanation right now.

a ^ f 3^5*:. ^^ K8RoS* §b& ^ ^ & o s r ^^ ^ f ^ T § & ^

Calling attention Alters 21st March, 1984 309

re : Irregularities in submitting Annual Returns by the management of Andiira Pradesh Carbides Limi-ed.

You must go through it,

s*. J3 ^S. ceres' ir^:. sy& 3^\&.

M f ^ < f :. sy*3^& 13^ M ? You must go through it

Sbg^ ^ 3 R :. ^ ^)^(So. I request you to go through the

proceedings and if you still feel like offering personal explanation you can offer it. You give notice. I will give a chance.

oR;Ma 3 ^ & K c r . Not, now.

You go through it. In fact, it does not require any personal explanation from you.

Unfortunately I was not in the House.

^^^*3Ar?6 ^ ^ g R o s ocr ^ ^ r ^ S§oR& ^rr^^ ^ ^ r b .

3bo6jr8S? ^)^J=dô <To^ eo*& bêo &5&o^ô &0S0 od3^) ?

a . *3 . ^5. c r ^ ^ ^ a : e' s&^&ydio ^ oK ^d) b^^S

By name it has been mentioned in this House.

(interruptions)

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N : Are you prepared to expunge.

Suppose it is said...

*&§ (&*<RR gÊfo^ ^ ^ ^ & ^ ^ <3sDo& f ^ l §^& ô"& c?^5 ^

^1>5* ^0&X>oa ? ^^cS5* ^ l ) ^ & ^ ) eK$SÔ ODÔ&,

M R * SPEAKER If you feel for a Personal explanation I will give a chance. You give notice.

( 3. M&By*^:.. -s& 5^&) S)B^ o*a*3p% *B&rr8 ^

310 21st March, 1984 Calling Attention Meters

re : Non-reaching of benefits of the subsidy yiven under D. R D. A. loans to the real bcneficiane-,.

ar5" ^5*:. ^ ^ ^ ^ 3o ^ o ^ 3.^ u^. ^ j ca

s^^d). sya ^ o ^ ^ S) 5357?&. ea e-Uhd^Cr? o^r^:\:ojl3j^

ôa^r?& tga^R. â 6o*3o^J*^ ^ & ^ ^ ? & ) . That is why

you gi\e a. notice on what points you w<mt to e\phua

SRI A. M A D A N M O H A N * Till such time you hear the taperecorder, you ask the Press not to quote anything about it.

MR. SPEAKER: If there is something objectionable, then I can say.

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(§) 1. UTTuM *5R:. ^D^ô0^r?5 aeD(&-?3 Lju ^ ^ ^ S y ^

( 9 0 6 3 ^ )

re: Non-reaching of benefits of the subsidy given under D. K. D. A. loans to the real bcncfmancs.

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^ ^ o yd) 3&R TS$joe)& ggdêlb iS<sr r?^)L^M^ ^B^so ^ ^ &

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^ & ^ ^ 3^sB. ^ *g^ a,r^^63 ^ ^ *5g & Hr. 3,000 e & o &

3r. 5.000 o ygo ^ ;68&)a§ & &oô^,.,.

(interruptions)

($S^;§a ^ ^ ^goo &o^7?& *t^Hoo^ R^cs*aS bco^^S)

€)oo) ? d)gr 53630 0 ROoaa \

(§) .3. *3o^ :. e^g^, go <ao^7Y& ^ * 5 o o ^ ^ ^ y ^ o ^ .

(interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I adjourned the House to meet agam at 8-30 AJM. to-morrow.

(The House then adjourned to meet again at 8*30 A. M. on Thursday the 22 nd March, 1984)

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