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From The Editors Desk
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Inside the Issue:
1. Trade Mogul (Futures First) -
Abhishek Khosla
2. Tata Consultancy Services
Parth
3. AmulPuneet Kapoor
4. Ogilvy and MatherAbhinav
Kanagat
5. Matrix Laboratories Ltd.Krati
Gupta
6. NISM (SEBI) - Ritesh Marwah
7. D. E. ShawDeepak Khurana
8. Ernst & YoungGautam Mehta
9. ITCYamini Mishra
Hi,
In the hustle and bustle of academics andthe daily grind, the only force that keepsdriving us is the fact that we need tostand out, make a mark and achieve our
goals. So great is the need that were will-ing to go the extra mile, be proactive anddeliver nothing but the best.
Same is the case when it comes to decid-ing on Summer Internships and Events.However, no more shooting in the darkas we, Club Ecobizz have done all the
ground work for you! In this issue we
have compiled in depth interviews ofpeers who have made a mark in the com-pany they interned in to a National leveltrading competition.
Demystify the path to success as you readthrough this issue.
Wishing you all the very best for theSummer & Final Placement Season!
Warm Regards,
Neha Sharma
Editorial Head
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IBS Hyderabad
Trade Mogul (Futures First)Abhishek Khosla
Winner - M.B.A Batch of 20102012
eventually, it facilitates our decision making
process during the game. There are many
good sites available over the net for charts
like zingle.com
Why did you participate in this event?
Basically to check how good I am in trading
and to prove to myself that I could do much
better than the previous year. Also, quite im-
portantly, the winning amount (rupees 1
lakh) was a huge incentive and morale
booster.
What about the Learning Experience from
the game?
Even though there is a notional account in
the game but it clearly depicts that on a real
time account a lot is at stake. Hence you have
to be very careful. In the trade mogul game
the rates used are of the real time, so theres
no chance of taking decisions earlier. The
game platform was almost identical to the
one used in real life, hence one can learn a lot
about how to operate it in the most appropri-
ate manner. On this I would clearly like to
mention that in trading no one is YOUR
FRIEND.
Before the event what where your expecta-
tions?
I was not playing this game for the first time,
had played it last year also. In 2010 it was a
23 hours window game while this year it was
a 12 hours window and no delivery was al-
lowed unlike last year. The participants could
trade in 4 items which included the all favor-
ite items of Gold and Crude oil. My overall
and basic expectation was to better my last
years result and more importantly keep two
emotions, greed and fear, in check.
Any special preparations required for theevent?
I did no such special preparation and more-
over I feel trading is an ongoing learning
process. No book can teach you how to trade
effectively. I know all this because I have a 5
year experience in trading. Initially I started
trading by taking delivery and soon pro-
gressed into intraday trading, margin based
trading and etc.
What preparations should newcomers un-
dertake?
Charts should be respected from the start as
knowing the trend is very important and ,
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stantly checking for updates!!!
What was your strategy while playing the
game?
As the game was an intra day game I essen-
tially concentrated on charts and 3 day mov-
ing averages. I checked 15 minutes interval
charts for trading while 30 minute charts to
confirm the trend which would help me in
decision making. Apart from these technicalaspects, I firmly believe that a trader should
not be afraid of losing money. Like in the 3rd
week of the game I was holding a rank of
5000 with a loss of Rs 45000. Then at the end
of the 3rd week I managed to hold a profit of
What about the level of competition and
what about information sharing ?
The level was quite high and I firmly believe
that with more number of people participat-
ing, the sharing and discussion of informa-
tion can be done in a more efficient manner.
Also with more number of people participat-
ing from our college information sharing
comes in handy as the game is of 12 hourswindow and with classes going on, its al-
most impossible to check for each and every
update. During the competition I would take
my laptop to the class and tell the teachers
that I am trading, hence I need to keep con-
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One major thing I learned is that we should
not trade under some compulsion, trade only
when the trade is in our favor, or else just
leave it. For example on the last day I was
holding a considerable profit over the personcoming second but as we had to trade, I did.
In normal scenario I wouldnt have done it.
Also we should try to maintain the profit to
loss ratio which I believe should be 2 :1 .
Advice for budding traders?
As a second source of income its good but as
a career or as a source of income, I feel its
quite risky and should not be undertaken.
Apart from this the game had a lot of young
budding investors who did quite well, like
the person who came third was a student
from Shri Guru Gobind Singh college. Also
budding traders can participate in similar
trading simulation games like SMART IN-
VESTOR where they can gain experience but
the biggest and best teacher is the REAL
MARKET.
A final question, if a student is not from fi-
nance background can he trade effectively?
Absolutely yes. The FM 1 and 2 concepts
taught in our MBA curriculum has no such
relevance here. Anyone who can understand
a chart and can analyze the price trends from
it can do trading. This is a very practical con-cept with theory having very less promi-
nence.
Rs 45000 and subsequently my rank came
down to 66. From the 4th week I had 16 lots to
trade too and soon my rank came down to
33rd position. Also, I had adopted a strategy
of trading in little volumes despite the pres-ence of upward trend. This I did so as to nul-
lify the effect of any fluctuations if they arose.
In which of the items did you trade the
most?
I did my trade mostly in Gold and crude oil,
while the S&P 500 was quiet difficult as it
was news driven. With the window being of
12 hours and with our class running in a full-
fledged manner it was quite tough for me to
follow each and every news pertaining to it.
Thus I traded mostly in gold and crude oil.
How would you advice newcomers in terms
of controlling their emotions while trading ?
Its quiet simple, when you are making
money dont be happy and when you are in-curring a loss dont be sad, just be confident .
Apart from that I believe each and every
trader has his own unique technique. A per-
fect example would be that on the last day of
the game I traded and suffered a loss of Rs
70000 which greatly threatened my 1 st posi-
tion, which I was holding on to since the start
of the day. I held on to my ground and by
the end of the day curtailed my losses, whichwas pivotal in making me the eventual win-
ner.
What about the value addition from this
game?
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TCS Hyderabad (Finance)Parth
SIP Award Winner- M.B.A Batch of 2010-2012
on the basis of specialization, for example
companies say they are offering Marketing
or Finance or HR Profile, but then all these
specializations have so many sub domains,
that distinguishing within them is impor-tant. For that it is very important to attend
the company presentations and get the clar-
ity on the profile. Students can also consult
the concerned faculties and the seniors who
had previously done there SIP with the or-
ganization to get a clarity on the profile.
What advice would you give to the stu-
dents who are still in a dilemma when it
comes to choosing the area of interest?
I would say that dont take impulsive deci-
sions because SIP is the most important as-
pect of your M.B.A Curriculum, this is
where you would get an opportunity to un-
derstand the business world and see the
implementation part of whatever you have
learnt in your M.B.A. Your interest in the
field should be the only deciding factor
when it comes to choosing your area of in-
terest. Dont take decisions based on what
your friends are going for or the stipend
the organization is offering. Like I had said
How to choose an SIP profile?
Brand Name is very important, because it
definitely adds to your C.V. As a fresher I
would suggest that you should not be very
choosy with the organization because youare at the threshold of entering the corpo-
rate world. SIP is the first step that will give
you the glimpse of the business world, and
you have to accept the fact that you cant
mould the organization to suit your needs.
So its up to individuals to trade off be-
tween the brand name and the kind of pro-
file they want to work in.
Apart from academics, what groundwork
is required to get the desired SIP profile?
You have to keep yourself up to date and
aware of everything that is currently hap-
pening in the world especially related to
your domain or the area. Groundwork I
would say needs to be done in terms of
finding out about the kind of profile the
organization is offering.
What are the parameters on the basis of
which you differentiate between profiles?
Usually the profiles are differentiated only
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the Banks
2. Liquidity Position of the Banks
3. Capital Structure of the Banks
Did you work on one task primarily or
was their any type of rotation involved?
My work at TCS was divided into two cate-
gories. The first part was as the organiza-
tion calls it is the Core Work which was
basically for the organization in the depart-
ment called Business Domain Academy. In
this again I worked on two sub categories
namely Asset Review- where I was sup-posed to review the existing 18 types of cer-
tification courses for the Insurance Depart-
ment employees and Asset Development
here the entire team was asked to develop
certification courses for the business ana-
lysts. A total of 6 Modules with 75 ques-
tions per Module were developed by the
team as a whole.The Second Part of my SIP was my Project
on the topic Analysis of BASEL Norms
What challenges did you face while un-
dergoing your SIP?
I had two company guides, one for the
Core work in the Business Domain Acad-
emy department and the other for my Pro-
ject. The Most challenging part for me was
to strike a balance between both these
works and meet the deadlines set by both
the Guides.
In terms of completing my Project it was a
before, consulting faculties or the seniors
who had initially done their SIP in different
domains will be beneficial to get an under-
standing about the kind of work that you
are supposed to do in that particular do-
main.
What were your expectations before the
commencement of the internship and to
what extent were they met?
Being a fresher my expectations were very
realistic, I wanted to get a glimpse of the
corporate culture and learn how do compa-nies operate and the way they function.
Also I expected that I would be given the
freedom to work in my area of interest and
all the support from my company mentor. I
would say that yes all these expectations
were met by the company and I had a great
learning experience during my SIP.
What kind of projects did you work on?
My project topic was Analysis of the
BASEL-3 Norms. I was supposed to ana-
lyze the impact of the BASEL norms on the
Indian Banking Industry. My company
guide suggested this project, because Bank-
ing and Financial Services is the main
source of revenue for TCS, and BASEL-3 is
yet to be implemented in India. I had to
analyze the impact of implementing the
BASEL-3 norms on the banking industry
with respect to the following three parame-
ters:
1. Minimum Capital Requirement of
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Were you treated as an intern or a full
time employee?
I was treated as an intern. There were a few
restricted areas where we could not go that
was due to the fact that TCS deals with
highly sensitive information for its clients
so not everyone is allowed to access the
highly sensitive information. However I
was allowed to access all the facilities like
TCS Library, gym and cafeteria like any
other normal employee.
What was the level of support during your
SIP?
I got full support from my Company guide
in completing my project. The inputs pro-
vided by him were extremely beneficial for
me. I would say that he did a full justice to
his role of being a mentor, and I am thank-
ful to him for all his support without which
it would have not been possible for me to
accomplish such a challenging project.
In finance was their any analytical work
involved or was it the usual data entry
work?
My entire SIP involve only and only ana-
lytical part, there was no data entry worked
involved.
very challenging task as I had absolutely no
idea of the banking Sector and the BASEL
norms, so there was a lot of self study in-
volved on my part in understanding the
terminology involved and how does the
banking sector work. In this respect I got a
lot of help and guidance from both my
Company guide and the Faculty guide.
Also taking the risk of going ahead with the
project on BASEL-3 Norms knowing that
there is no quantifiable data available on
BASEL-3 was a huge challenge in itself for
me.
What value addition has the SIP done for
you?
As a fresher, for me it was a great learning
experience and I got great exposure to the
corporate life ahead and the culture. The
depth of knowledge that I gained working
on my project was tremendous and is a
huge value addition for me as an individ-
ual.
Also SIP gave me an opportunity to make
industry contacts and interact with people
from different departments and with ex-
perience in varied field and learn from their
experience in the industry.
I would just advice all the students going
for their SIPs in a few more months to
come to make the most of this time and
learn and gain as much knowledge as pos-
sible as it is the most important part of your
M.B.A curriculum.
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Amul (Marketing)Puneet Kapoor
SIP Award Winner- M.B.A Batch of 2010-2012
position. Get in as soon as there is a profile that is
desired. Thirdly, one shouldnt worry about the
stipend that theyll get. Many companies may
not get you a stipend. For me the criterion of a
stipend was a strict no-no and I wasnt very fussy
about it. Be patient and when the work is good,
go for it.
Apart from your academics, what groundwork
did you do to get you SIP?
See, the interview may ask you about not just
academic related questions, but also practical
implications and current affairs. Therefore, read-
ing a lot of magazines, apart from courser materi-
als, help. Apart form that, the morning ghostthat come i.e. the newspaper for which you need
to become a ghost buster, in a humorous note. So
two basic things - read a lot of magazines, right
from India Today to Time to Fortune 500, we
have it all in the library, and you just have to find
time and go there to read, and the newspaper.
For marketing students, there is a supplement of
Brand Equity in ET that helps a lot. In addition,
for finance students, it is important to keep track
of the Sensex. As such basic questions will be
asked. The interviewer may not get into the de-
tails of a topic but the basic questions will be
asked like say, why is the market falling, why is
the rupee appreciating etc. Hence, it is important
to be aware of your surroundings.
Lets start with where you did your SIP and
how did you get there?
Initially for the second semester I wasnt here as I
had gone to Adelaide for the scholarship pro-
gram, and due to that I could not apply to a sin-
gle company that was coming to the campus. All
my friends kept telling me about the companies
that kept coming to campus and that built a lot of
frustration in me. Hence, when I came back, very
few companies were left to visit the campus.
Amongst the choices that I had, I said yes to
Amul i.e. Gujarat Cooperative Milk Marketing
Federation, and the location was Hyderabad.
How do you think one should choose an SIPprofile?
I feel the first thing is that one should be sure
whether he/she wants to go for marketing or
finance. As far as my experience goes, when the
second semester was about to get over, I was still
not sure. Now what are the consequences of not
being sure? The consequences are that in the final
interview of your placements, the interviewer
may ask you that you have done your SIP say in
a trading company, but the major electives you
have selected are say, operations or marketing.
So one should be sure of what he/she will major
in. Secondly, one should be very patient as there
are a lot of companies that come for SIP so one
shouldnt jump into a profile just to freeze their
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finance. Do not believe in such myths. I have al-
ways loved marketing. I enjoy talking to people
and sell my ideas. And this is the reason why I
took up marketing. If you are in a dilemma about
what to choose, there are some necessary person-
ality traits needed in each area. For instance it is
important for a person in marketing to be an ex-
trovert who loves talking to people and knows
how to sell his ideas well to people. Similarly for
someone in finance, number crunching ability is
a necessary trait. Also the knowledge of various
financial models and the trends are important.
Such characteristics will tell you that you will be
good in finance.
Apart from these personality traits,
there is this gut feeling which
comes. When we enter the college
in the first year, we really dont
know whether we will end up tak-
ing finance, marketing, operations,
etc. But subsequently as time goes
by, at around the end of the first
year, you develop a gut feeling
that tells you that you are good inan area, say, marketing. So do
what your gut says, rather than
listening to people around you.
Thirdly, please dont listen to any-
body. Do not listen to your peers who themselves
are not very sure. Listen to those who are confi-
dent about their subjects and choices and can
guide you well. Also, there are many experi-
enced faculty at IBS who are more than willing to
guide students in dilemma. They give you the
right opinion without any preconceived notion.
Finally, analyze what you want to do, in case if
everyone tells you that you are good with num-
bers take finance but you want to take up mar-
keting, go with marketing.
What are the parameters on which you differen-
tiated between profiles?
Ill give you an example here; say there is a com-
pany that has come with a marketing profile.
Now which profile its giving is important. It may
say that it is a marketing research profile and
students embrace it; however eventually it may
be only data entry in disguise. Interns from Tier-
1 colleges may be recruited by them to use the
actual tools and do the research. In such a situa-
tion, the student should ask the interviewer di-
rectly whether you will be using the tools for re-
search or not. This will make the profile clear.
Secondly, in case you dont want sales be very
clear and try to get that information
because once in the internship you
may get frustrated in case you are
not interested in such a profile. There
are many caveats that are attached
and therefore it is very important to
be alert and know them beforehand.
Being marketing major, I am not
aware of the finance aspects; how-
ever many of my friends had to ex-perience situations in which they
thought the profile included making
models and doing research whereas
they ended up selling financial prod-
ucts. So yes, it is very important to get as much
information at the initial stage as there maybe
companies with disguised profiles. And that is
how I di fferentiated profiles.
What advise will you give to students who are
still in a dilemma in choosing their area of in-
terest?
I am a student with a CGPA of 9.71. Now the
major perception that people have is that you
have a CGPA of above 9 so you should take up
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(STP). It was a completely research based project.
The techniques used were for segmentation we
used cluster analysis, for targeting we used prob-
ability analysis and for positioning we used
multi-dimensional scaling. The multi-
dimensional scaling technique will be taught to
the first year students in the subsequent semes-
ters in subjects like Marketing Research.
The project also had a sales angle to it. We were
told that in case while getting our questionnaires
filled we come across someone who is interested
in opening an APO (Amul Preferred Outlet), and
we can generate such leads, we have to give that
information to the company.
In our project we did get a lead through which
we opened up an APO. The outlet is generating
around 20 lacs revenue as per the correspon-
dence between me and my company guide. So in
all, it was both research and sales because I am
sure no company will expect you to do the in-
ternship without generating some form of reve-
nue for them.
Did you work on one task primarily or was it arotational based?
It was a rotational project. Say in the first day we
are at a store like Spencers getting our question-
naires filled, the next day we would be on the
field talking to prospective clients and generating
leads for the opening of APO as mentioned ear-
lier. The company gave us around 7-8 leads and
we needed to call them, if they are interested
meet them in person, know the exact terms of
trade and convince them that opening the APO
would be profitable for them. So basically it was
a day-to-day, task changing internship.
What were the challenges faced by you during
the SIP?
What were your expectations before the com-
mencement of the SIP and how far were they
met?
My expectation from my SIP was that I should
get a very challenging job or task to do. People
had told me that there will be companies which
will directly tell you that we have interns from
tier 1 colleges and you will be assisting them in
the project by doing data entry, data correction
and reporting. My expectation was that I will not
be this person doing this particular job only. I am
not saying that this work is menial or anything.
These steps are a vital part of the whole end-to-
end process. But in addition to this work, I also
wanted to do the analysis part of the project.
So I took up a project with my team members,
both were from IBS, and be were solely responsi-
ble for the entire end-to-end process of the pro-
ject. We made sure that will prepare our reports
without any participation of interns from other
colleges. We made sure that our three member
team was self competent. For this we were con-
stantly in touch with our faculty guide, as a com-
pany like Amul, which works more in sales, maynot have people who can take time out to explain
various SPSS tools to us.
Overall my expectation was that I will not let
anyone do the analysis of the data while I run
around and collect that data. And it did get ful-
filled as we, as a team built a firewall and did not
allow anyone from other colleges to get involved
and in case we dont have the required skills, we
will develop it and that is what we did.
What was the project that you worked on?
My project was about the study of consumption
of Amul products, specific to modern format
stores in Hyderabad and Secunderabad region. It
required segmentation, targeting and positioning
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Were you treated as an intern or a full-time em-
ployee at the company?
At one point of time, I actually started behaving
like a full-time employee because my company
guide did have a lot of faith in me and I assisted
him in visiting modern format stores. In some
cases he actually gave me the responsibility of
directly interacting with the store managers on
behalf of the company, and get the real issues on
the floor. And many relevant issues were
brought up in these discussions. So, in general if
you do the work the company will let you take
direct responsibility.
What was the level of support for you during
the SIP?
I think the best support throughout the SIP was
my faculty guide, who was very knowledgeable
in terms of the tools that had to be used and the
methodology. Other than that my team both
from IBS, especially in situations when I was not
well or my bike broke down. I think among all
the people I worked with, my teacher faculty
guide was very helpful.
Any other information that you would like to
tell to the students to help them get insights
into the process of SIP?
One thing is that please do not copy your project
report from anywhere. One may get motivated to
do something like that but we have experienced
that faculty members can catch such practices.
Also, to be very honest, most of us in India are
not concerned about plagiarism; however in
countries like US, UK and Australia there are
laws which prohibit plagiarism. Of course, now
even we also have them. But please do not pla-
giarize your work. You can read from the inter-
net and reference it properly.
One of the challenges was transportation and the
commuting from the company to places and col-
lege. Another was that at times there may be con-
trasting expectations from the company guide
and the faculty guide. In such a scenario, you
have to be a perfect bridge between both. When
you are mailing any content to the faculty guide,
keep the company guide in the loop and mark a
copy to him as well, and vice versa. This is to
ensure that none of them feel that you are keep-
ing any information from them.
Also a bigger challenge was that we had not
learnt techniques like multi-dimensional scaling
in the first year and this technique was the high-
light of my project. So to learn the tool I had to
study it from the scratch from n number of
books.
What value addition has the SIP done to you?
The best SIP award was one of the achievements.
Apart from that I have now learnt to write good
reports. I was completely grilled by my guide.
My report was sent back to me for changes 10-12
times. I had aimed at the SIP award and myguide knew that I was very much involved with
it so she made sure that she grills me to the core.
So now I am good at report writing.
Another thing is team work. Having had prior
work experience it was reinforced to me that in-
dividually you can not achieve a lot and you will
require people with you to help you out. So be
good to the people around, help them, get help
because you cannot know everything.
In addition to this, the whole process required a
lot of presentations that had to be given the
initial presentation, convincing your guide that
what you are doing is correct. So that improved
the communication skills. These w ere the person-
ality related as well as academic value additions.
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Ogilvy & Mather (Marketing)- Abhinav Kanagat
SIP Award Winner - MBA Batch of 20102012
term Corporate Sales, it incorporates a lot of
profiles - selling insurance, product etc. and it is
your team that has to meet the target. But gen-
erally, what happens is you get different pre-
conceived notions. A sale profile is not only
selling, it means meeting targets, communicat-ing. One needs to understand that first. Do
SWOT Analysis and you can be through with
the field.
What advice would you give to students who
are still confused about their area of interest ?
One should always go by his/her interest and
skill combination. Never ever go by peoples
opinion. If youre passionate about marketing
grab it, but dont go by what is currently in
trend if youre not interested. And that youll
probably be clear with after your 2nd Semester
ends.
What were your expectations before the In-
ternship and to what extent were they met?
I expected to work in client servicing. I was ex-
posed to every department. I had to report to
VP, Management head. I wanted to work for
the company, so I proactively took initiatives
and asked for work which other interns never
even bothered to do. This kept me separate
from all other interns working at O&M.
What kind of projects did you work on?
How to choose an SIP Profile?
I think one should be pretty clear about what
one wants; one should be well versed with his
short-term and long-term goals. As in my case,
I am clear of taking up brand manager profile
in the upcoming future. And O&M proved tobe a stepping stone to my future profile. And if
you are confused with various sub industry,
then you need to merge & prioritize your skills
& interest. So Key is to know your strength be-
fore choosing your SIP.
Apart from academics what groundwork is
required to get the desired SIP Profile?
One should be well-read and well-aware of
industries and current trends of the industry.
You cant be a good manager if you dont know
what is happening currently. So reading maga-
zines is like a daily dose for you. Once, VP of
O&M said that MBA is only a degree on paper;
people are designed to throw jargons. But in
reality one needs to use his/her analytical
skills. The Case pedagogy does help students to
brainstorm across domains and understand
companys situations. One develops various
viewpoints by the time he/she steps in as an
intern. You need to be dynamic to keep things
moving.
On the basis of which parameters do you dif-
ferentiate an SIP Profile?
As per the placement scenario, if you go by the
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portray myself in the best possible manner. One
more thing is documenting every 2hr interview,
where you have to pick up only the relevant
points and that requires skill.
What ValueAddition has the SIP done for
you?
I learnt how to write a 3 months work report in
5 pages crisply. I learnt when to talk, what to
talk so this gave me an immense experience as
well.
Were you treated as an Intern or a Full-Time
Employee?
I was treated as a Full time employee duringmy SIP at O&M. It depends from
person to person, as I was putting
in extra efforts and working hours
they respected that willingness to
learn. And so the treatment was
fair to my expectations.
What was the level of Support
during your SIP?
I was given help wheneverneeded. No monetary support was
given during my research work.
In Marketing was your profile confined to
Sales or was it diversified?
I was given a profile of Client servicing during
my Summer Internship program at O&M.
Any Further advice for the potential interns?
During the SIP program, you will learn only if
you put in effort , so its up to you. Its an op-
portunity to understand the corporate culture,
time management and learn a lot of things.
In the initial 2 weeks I was given all kind of
work. But later, they gave me a specific task to
come up with a solution. The task was to find
why Ramco ERP is not popular enough despite
an economic solution. I researched online about
the company, its competitors, ads and various
brands, what O&M did for Ramco, the stringent
policies. I designed a strategy for Ramco ERP
and I came up with the course of action for
O&M. The Statistics about ERP-cloud revealed
that 70% are confused about the product as they
mix up the product with the brand and 90%
dont know the product. So I presented the in-
depth coverage of my knowledge to the O&M
managers to which they were convinced. The
most probable challenge that I
faced during my research was
fixing and scheduling an appoint-
ment with the client.
What challenges did you face
during your SIP?
In the 1st week when you meet
people as an intern you will find
different people with varied atti-tudes. Some will be very helpful,
as most of them know that you
are there for only 3 months. So
understand the workplace, learn
to communicate effectively, un-
derstand the structure. As soon as you will get
work from various departments learn to priori-
tize. Finishing the work on time is the greatest
challenge you learn when working under pres-
sure. While working in Chennai the biggestbarrier with me in field was the language, also
fixing appointments and talking to CEOs and
MD, to keep them engaged in your talk is also
one of the major challenges. I learnt when not to
disclose details to them, how to talk, what to
ask when. After my 6th client I actually learnt to
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-Krati GuptaSIP Award Winner- M.B.A Batch of 2010-2012
pany side would be the understanding of ba-
sic marketing concepts. Your concepts should
be concrete.
On what basis you differentiate betweenprofiles?
As I have said before the first one would be
of course the Company name and then the
profile offered. Established company gives
you the chance to do the actual work and not
any random work at some random morning.
For fresher, SIP is very important .It gives
you the leverage in your placement. It pro-
vides you with some relevant background. So
company name and the Project is very cardi-
nal to talk about in your placement.
What you learnt about marketing or any-
thing else you want to tell us?
In my profile there was every sort of analysis-
situational analysis, competitors analysis,
then forecasting .I learnt how to take deci-sions and then to give a comprehensive po-
tential basket that I think that they should
offer and how they should go for it. Also I
can say that now I know and understand my
company. I have used my concepts and put it
How does u choose a SIP profile when it
comes to marketing?
It is very important to have Focus. Focus on
what is the most important skill you want to
learn about. Whether it is about sales& Distri-bution or whether face to face interaction
with the client is what you are looking at. I
had taken Business development as my pro-
ject. This profile was very comprehensive. It
encompassed everything what I wanted to
learn.
While choosing SIP you need to think where
you want to go. A serious suggestion from
my side would be to please look for the com-
pany name and next important thing is the
profile which they are offering. My profile
had no direct contact with the client as client
were governments, foreign nationals etc.
Apart from academic what is the ground
work needed, to get the desired profile?
You need to know the gist of the companyand the field/area they are working in. One
should have some knowledge of facts and
figures to support their ideas. If you dont
know then say it, admit it. It will show your
confidence. Obvious demand from the com-
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about? What are its objectives and what
would be the complication in which you can
get in? Also it helps to check your own poten-
tial and you get to know how you fit in an
organization? There is a time when you feelthe hierarchical difference and at times you
will feel that there is no hierarchy. In the
company I used to talk to everyone except
my boss as I thought that it could be taken as
creating bias. This was pointed out one day.
So you need to know
how things get differ-
ent in different ways in
different times.
Your project was very
comprehensive but
was it like that u had
to work for more than
one project/target?
No. I had no back-
ground knowledgeabout the pharmaceuti-
cal. Im a B. Com stu-
dent. I chose Business
Development as my project in pharmaceuti-
cals. On the very first day I was directed to
learn about the industry and how it works as
a whole in a weeks time. I had to make a
presentation about my learnings in the sec-
ond week. After approval they handed me asheet which had a detailed explanation and
step by step procedure about what and how
am I supposed to do with enough freedom to
build my own decision. I had a very struc-
tured approach, I can say.
into practice. I got to know about many rules
and regulations which one must need to ad-
here to.
How you decided about your area of interest
and what advice you would like to give to
juniors about how to go about it?
Frankly I would tell you that I was a hard
core finance person. Im good at analytical
concept. Im very strong in accounts and law.
I have very good back-
ground in finance. My
decision of choosing
core marketing came as
a surprise to my teach-
ers. Confusion will al-
ways be there. But I
would like to share that
my experience has
taught me that-its not
about what you are
good at but its aboutwhat you enjoy doing
at. I was always better
in finance but then it
was work for me. I liked and enjoyed doing
marketing.SIP is that place where you can
still decide what to take. I tried my hand at
marketing and it worked for me. This is the
juncture where you can still dabble to decide
correctly.
What was your expectation before SIP
stared and to what extent it got fulfilled?
As Im a fresher I had no expectation. All I
wanted was to just learn. What is a team all
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will just not go.
What was the level of support from your
faculty guide?
I was blessed. My mentor was Romina
Mathew. She is the most comfortable person
to work around with. The average age at
work place was 35-40 yrs, so I was considered
as a Kid over there. There was a joke that
they have adopted me. She used to discuss
about what I have said, what I have done,
what I have not said and what I have not
done. All these small hints were very helpful.
If I had done SWOT analysis then she would
ask how this is different if I would have
asked you to do it in class and if you are now
doing in a company. She would direct me to
make it more practical by involving and in-
teracting with other employees and depart-
ments. My PowerPoint Presentation skill has
improved due to my company guide (Dheeraj
Gupta). My Project was very comprehensivebut then also I made ppt in 15slides which
included- forecasting, Tuberculosis, what dis-
ease is all about, options, patents, entry strat-
egy, heading and title page and then Conclu-
sion. He also direct me about different direc-
tions needed. He used to tell that krati I know
you are happy working with this person but
chill out. Listen more while you are convers-
ing then you will gain many things.
What challenges did you face while doing
your SIP?
I had zero knowledge about the pharmaceuti-
cal and I had to do many comparative analy-
ses. It forced me to have the know-how of
required technical jargons. It was also re-
quired to know what other person is talking
about as their sentences were bombarded
with these jargons. I had gone there through
Contacts and I was working in the subsidiary
branch. So those people who knew about this
treated me with very kind and helpful nature
but others were indifferent. You should know
what type of conversation you need to make
in an office and with whom. You also need to
know where to cut shot your statements. A
person seriously learns how to handle people
when they venture in an organization.
What value addition did SIP bring?
You need to maintain a relationship with eve-
ryone but then you have to define its bounda-
ries. Work does talk but its not the only
thing. Communication plays a major role.
Another most important thing for a market-
ing person is PowerPoint Presentation. You
can do fabulous work but if your final pres-
entation is not good then it will not work but
vice-versa can happen. During your presenta-
tion you need to give emphasis on how to
stand, whom to address first, whom all to
address, whom all not to address. Also you
need to keep in mind that you are not an in-
dividual over there. You represent a com-
pany as a whole. Any mistake on my part
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terviews. For Finance students, I would suggest
that having certifications like C.F.A are an added
advantage.
Apart from this finding out the information
about the company in terms of its offerings, pro-
file and the domain in which the organization is
offering the SIP is equally important because that
will ultimately help you to decide whether you
really want to go for it or not. I would also sug-
gest that the students talk to their seniors or the
faculty members to gain a better understanding
of the profiles.
What are the parameters on the basis of which
you differentiate between profiles?Frankly speaking I would say that its a little dif-
ficult to judge the profile based on the descrip-
tion given by the organization and also there is a
vast difference between what the organizations
say in their profile when making a presentations
and what the student is actually supposed to do.
The company might say that the profile is of Risk
Management but then its the responsibility of
the student to clarify where exactly the company
is putting up the intern.
What advice would you give to the students
who are still in a dilemma when it comes to
choosing the area of interest?
One simple advice that I would give to all the
How to choose an SIP profile?
The two most important things are:
Brand Name: A stronger brand name will
always give you an edge over others
when it comes to interviews for place-
ments and will definitely help add
weight to your C.V.
Profile: Choose the profile in which you are
able to apply your basic theoretical
knowledge and are able to l earn the im-
plementation part of the concepts.
Also from the perspective of placements, even if
you are not able to properly explain your project
the essence of your project gets lost in the inter-
view, a bigger brand name always helps, as mostof the interviewers are already aware of the kind
of products the company is dealing with. Ulti-
mately there has to be a trade off between both of
them to strike a balance.
Apart from academics, what groundwork is re-
quired to get the desired SIP profile?
The most important thing is the C.G.P.A, Because
the company in NISM (SEBI) where I did my SIP
shortlisted the initial candidates based on their
C.G.P.A. Apart from CGPA Brushing up the con-
cepts that you have learnt in FM-I & II and MM I
& II is again important as most of the companies
conduct written tests based on which they again
shortlist the candidates for the final round of in-
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this project we used softwares like SAS, R.
This project was based on the concept of Shadow
Portfolio, where I try to mimic the insiders trad-
ing activities, and then see whether or not the
person is making abnormal returns. I also
worked on the Econometric Time series Analysis
for my project.
Did you work on one task primarily or was
their any type of rotation involved?
I basically concentrated only on my project.
There was no rotation in the work involved.
What challenges did you face while undergo-
ing your SIP?
The most challenging task for me, during my SIP
was to learn coding. Being a biotech graduate I
had absolutely no knowledge of coding the pro-
grams that were required to generate the algo-
rithms. But then I started to learn by reading e-
books, and taking help from my SIP mentor, and
the hard work ultimately paid off.
Also Even before my SIP began, I was given
books and publications on SAS, Econometricsand research papers which I had to study before
joining the organization, so reading and under-
standing those concepts on your own was a huge
task in itself.
Another challenge was to live up to the high ex-
pectations of the company guide. The working
hours were hectic as well; there were times when
I had to work for 15-16 hours straight to com-
plete the coding.
Also I was working on a true research, in which
neither there is any pre-defined path nor any
guarantee of the outcome of the research, so at
every stage of my project there was a huge chal-
lenge on how to proceed with the work, which
ultimately will shape your project.
students will be go for your area of interest. By
the end of the second semester most of us are
clear about which subject interests us the most.
Or in plain simple words I would say If you can
read a subject book, without getting bored, you
know that is wh ere your interest lies
Also I would advice the students not to take up
Finance or marketing just because of the package
it will fetch you and not just because you have a
good CGPA, its ultimately the flair for the sub-
ject based on which you should decide where to
go and where do you want to head.
What were your expectations before the com-
mencement of the internship and to what extent
were they met?
Actually It was the other way round, because I
had heard from the seniors and other faculty
members that its a very good organization to do
your SIP with and that I would get to learn a lot
so in fact I was little worried whether I would be
able to meet the expectations of the organization
or not.
Also for the last four years who ever did their SIPat NISM, have won the best SIP Award, and I
wanted to carry on the tradition. All these factors
just made me focus on what was expected out of
me instead of focusing on my expectations from
the company.
What kind of projects did you work on?
My project was on Algorithm to Detect Insider
Trading but after sometime I had to change my
SIP project was a true research and after a period
of around 20 days I reached a dead end, and
there was no way for me to proceed further with
the project, So after consulting with both the
company and the faculty guide I changed my
Project to Information On Insider Trading For
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allowance.
What was the level of support during your SIP?
I would say that my company guide helped me
in every possible way. There was 100% commit-ment from my company guide to help me with
the suggestions on how to proceed with my pro-
ject. He got me a prowess license to work upon,
there were times when I could not download
certain files
from the inter-
net, and he
would do it.
He also helped
me in under-
standing the
coding part of
the program.
I would say
that I was
really very
lucky to have
had such a
great mentor.
In finance, was their any analytical work in-
volved or was it the usual data entry work?
Like I said before my entire project was totally
analytical based. The data I used to work on my
project was available in CDs which were pro-
vided to me by NISM.
What value addition has the SIP done for you?
The most important value addition for me was
the knowledge that I gained during my SIP. I
would say that till now whatever knowledge I
have gained 90% is what I have learnt during my
SIP. Also undergoing such rigorous training
helps you get a glimpse of corporate life and
mentally prepares you for the placements and
ultimately the
corporate li fe.
Another im-
portant value
addition dur-
ing my SIP
was the certifi-
cations I got.
The first one
was Summer
School of
E c o n o m e t -
rics, which
was a 12 day
workshop con-ducted by
NISM itself.
The best part
was that I being an intern did not have to pay
any certification course for the same. In all dur-
ing my SIP I earned myself 5 Certifications and
that too free of cost.
Were you treated as an intern or a full time em-
ployee?
I worked as a full time employee, where I had
access of all the additional benefits a normal em-
ployee of the company would get. Although the
company didnt pay me any stipend, they pro-
vided me accommodation, and transportation
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choosing the area of interest?
I would suggest such students to analyze them-
selves, read a lot about their area of interest to
identify best suitable area for them.
What were your expectations before the com-
mencement of the internship and to what extent
were they met?
I kept minimum expectations and kept my mind
open. I wanted to accept things the way they
come and therefore I wasnt disappointed with
my work. The take away was much more then
what I expected.
What kind of projects did you work on?I was not given any project by the company.
They had asked me to choose one for myself.
Hedging risk was the topic of my project. It in-
volved current client transaction; maintaining
minimum balance and other risk related affairs.
It revolved around the risk which on e faces while
investing in oil shares in three economies i.e. US,
China and India.
From where did you get the required informa-
tion for your project?
I referred to various books. I also gathered some
information from the company data. Lastly
Google helped me a lo t.
How to choose an SIP profile?
It depends upon the inclination and area of inter-
est. My inclination was always towards finance. I
wanted investment banking(IB) as my profile but
had other options in kind as well so when I dint
get IB in JPMC I switched to D.E. Shaw which
was offering financial - operations profile.
Apart from academics, what groundwork is re-
quired to get the desired SIP profile?
Watch movies and read books which are related
to your area of interest. Warren Buffet is my idol
and I make sure that I followed him all the time.
One should be updated with the current sce-
nario. I feel presence of mind is very importantand one should learn from practical examples.
What are the parameters on the basis of which
you differentiate between profiles?
One needs to be very clear about his/her area of
interest. I loved numbers which created my inter-
est in finance. One should look for a profile
which gives them scope to implement past
knowledge and skills (Graduation Knowledge).
Most importantly one should analyze themselves
and focus on what they want to become 5-10 yrs
down the line.
What advice would you give to the students
who are still in a dilemma when it comes to
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ployee?
I was treated like a full time employee. Was
added on the company mailing list, had access to
data. Things like this depend on your manager.
You need to follow certain guidelines mentioned
by the company and you are treated as a part of
the company.
In finance, was their any analytical work in-
volved or was it the usual data entry work?
First half of my project was more of reading and
gathering information second half was com-
pletely analysis. And as far
as my work is concerned it
was mixture of data gather-
ing and analysis.
How did you get the PPO?
There are two reasons:
Firstly I was in Finance &
Ops section and in Deshaw
this sector has more require-
ments.
Secondly I fulfilled managers expectations. In-
volved myself in daily operations and helped
them reduced time to complete tasks.
Any Tips for juniors?
Juniors should not become very choosy about the
profile and the location. They should not worry
about stipend at all. Be clear with concepts. Be
updated with the currents activities about the
industry. Take initiative once you are in the com-pany .Last but not the least try specialization in
one-two sectors
What was the level of support during your SIP?
My mentor was Jojo sir. He was strict about
guidelines but very cooperative. He visited the
company whenever required and helped us
throughout.
Did you work on one task primarily or was
their any type of rotation involved?
The work and the project I was working on were
entirely different. Since my project was not given
by company the two things had no connection.
So as far as my project goes I was working on
one area while my real time
working involved rotation.
What challenges did you
face while undergoing your
SIP?
First challenge was choosing
a project because in my case
company did not give one.
Second very important thing
is scheduling and prioritiz-
ing. You will have deadlines both for college sub-missions and towards the company therefore, it
is essential to schedule yourself.
What value addition has the SIP done for you?
I was exposed to things which are industry spe-
cific. Exclusive training was given on few topics.
I got fair idea of subjects like FRM and IB which
were to be taught in my upcoming semesters so
there was an academic learning. I was exposed to
international working. Most importantly I spe-
cialized in a sector across 3 countries which be-
came my point of differentiation. It made me
confident for my placements
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To interact with the seniors
The student should know what he/she is
best at, in which profile does he/she want
to work in future
Do not get influenced by what the seniors
are saying, the student should have their
own opinion from the advice of the seniors
Try and get to know what profiles come to
campus
Also by interacting with faculty members,
the student will get a very good input
What were your expectations before the com-
mencement of the internship and to what
extent were they met?
The main expectation was to work in one
particular project and get to learn as much
as possible. Most of the expectations were
met in those 3 months.
What kind of projects did you work on?
Renewable energy projects
M&A valuation
I was into Transaction Advisory Services
(TAS) division of E&Y
I was into making a business model for
renewable energy projects
It involved estimations related to how
quickly and consistently the revenues are
earned, amount and timing of the cash in-
flows to the firm
How to choose an SIP profile?
Initial research has to be done about the
company
Based on the field in which one wants to
work, the short listing of the companies
has to be made
Through the company website, get to
know everything about the company and
the different services which the company
offers to its customers
Then apply to the company in which you
want to work through contacts
Apart from academics, what groundwork is
required to get the desired SIP profile?
Good contacts
Person should be careful in terms of apply-
ing for the desired profile
Do the required research well
What are the parameters on the basis of
which you differentiate between profiles?
What do you really want to do in future
How well you can make good network
Does the company has a good brand name
in the market
Bigger the company, bigger are the con-
tacts
What advice would you give to the students
who are still in a dilemma when it comes
tochoosing the area of interest.
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that any thing can be learnt by struggling
Were you treated as an intern or a full time
employee?
I was treated more than a full time em-
ployee. But it was fun working there. I got
to learn a lot.
What was the level of support during yourSIP?
The main issue which I faced during my
internship was coordination. It used to be
very difficult to coordinate with different
teams to finish of the project on hand. But
the support which I got from my company
guide was awesome. He helped me in suc-
cessful completion of my project. Difficult
to coordinate
In finance, was there any analytical work in-
volved or was it the usual data entry
work?
It was both analytical and data entry work.
Always be with a mindset to be ready to
do any kind of job.
The template developed was used for all
the other renewable energy projects
Did you work on one task primarily or was
their any type of rotation involved?
Rotation was involved and I used to work
on multiple projects in one day (2-3 pro-
jects)
What challenges did you face while undergo-
ing your SIP?
The biggest challenge was how to operate
MS Excel. I just had the basic idea but after
working there my knowledge of MS Excel
has improved a lot. The other major chal-
lenge was to revive some of the accounting
concepts which were left at my graduation
level. What value addition has the SIP done for
you?
Gives you a result oriented approach and
You will get to know how to c reate a given
project from the scratch. It will give a good
direction towards career and I Got to know
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very clear I would advice them to keep an
open mind and do not restrict themselves to
just one domain. There is a possibility that
once you start your SIP you might start liking
the kind of work that you are involved and
ultimately develop interest in one particular
area.
What were your expectations before the
commencement of the internship and to
what extent were they met?
My only expectation was that I should get a
good project where I will get an opportunity
to apply my theoretical knowledge into prac-tice. And I was lucky that both my expecta-
tions got fulfilled.
What kind of projects did you work on?
My Project Title was Study the Grocery,
Bakery and ISS channels with respect to their
consumer profile, Category and Method of
Service empowerment and recommend the
service pack for ITC covering both Sell-in and
Sell out Aids.
This basically involved visiting the retailers
and collecting the data from them based on
the questionnaire, and then mapping the data
How to choose an SIP profile?
According to my personal experience I would
say that its the brand name that matters. But
then there is no surety if you could get a great
project in a big organization. Its entirely upto
a students personal choice to decide the
trade off between the Brand Name and the
Profile.
Apart from academics, what groundwork is
required to get the desired SIP profile?
The students need to study about the organi-
zation and should try to find out what exactly
is the work involved in the profile.
What are the parameters on the basis of
which you differentiate between profiles?
Apart from the Brand name, the kind of ex-
posure that yo u will get while working in the
organization is an important differentiating
factor while deciding on the profile to go for.
What advice would you give to the students
who are still in a dilemma when it comes to
choosing the area of interest?
See, by the end of second semester most of
us have a clear understanding of what our
areas of interest are, but for those who are not
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the recommendation made was another huge
challenge for me.
What value addition has the SIP done for
you?
I would say that SIP helped me understand
the gap between the theoretical knowledge
and the practical aspect of the implementa-
tion of the concepts. Also SIP gave me a
chance to get a better understanding and ex-
posure on how do organization work. I
would say it was a great learning experience
for me.
Were you treated as an intern or a full time
employee?
I was treated as an Intern.
What was the level of support during your
SIP?
I would say that I owe my Best SIP Award to
my company guide. It was my companyguide who suggested me the project and
helped me at every stage of my project. I was
not very confident if I would be able to meet
the objectives by this project, but it was his
faith in me that gave me the confidence to go
ahead with the project.
In marketing was their any analytical work
involved or was it the usual data entrywork?
My project was more about collecting the
data, and analyzing it. There was no data en-
try work as such.
collected against the data already available
with the company, with he help of which the
loopholes in the delivery system could be
analyzed.
The recommendations made after the analy-
sis were then put to pilot testing with ITCs
largest distributer in Mumbai, and it was
found out that the time taken in the recom-
mended model was actually less than the cur-
rent model being used, but due t the space
and transportation constrains in Mumbai, the
model could not be adopted for the city.
Did you work on one task primarily or was
their any type of rotation involved?
I worked only for my project, but lots of
groundwork for the project were involved for
which I had to work within the organiza-
tions day to day activity.
What challenges did you face while under-going your SIP?
The first and the foremost challenge for me
was the profile itself which was Sales. I was
not at all inclined towards it, but I had to go
ahead with it as it was the demand of my
project.
Another major challenge for me was to visit
the retailers all over Mumbai and get the in-
formation from them in terms of filling upthe questionnaire, not all of them were coop-
erative and I seriously had a tough time deal-
ing with them.
Also convincing the delivery people to adopt
a new model of delivery for the pilot run of
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