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Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program Phillippi Estate Park Presented by: Philip Paul Consulting Rosarian Past President B-SRS Parks & Recreation

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Page 1: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Using Roses from

Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program

Phillippi Estate Park

Presented by:Philip Paul

Consulting RosarianPast President B-SRS

Parks & Recreation

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Beautiful

High initial investment

High maintenance

Short term utility

Fragile

Beautiful

Low initial investment

Low Maintenance

Long term utility

Durable

Courtesy: Al Whitcomb

High vs Low Maintenance

Page 3: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Some Terms Defined “Easy Care” a term used to define roses that often require no

spray or limited spraying and fertilizationVaries by area of the country

“EarthKind®” A program developed by theTexas AgriLife Extension Service, Part of Texas A&M andThe Houston Rose Society

“Easier Care” A Phil Paul Term encompassing all forms ofroses that are easier to care for – Today’s Talk

All roses need some care!

Note: Some Roses can be both Easy Care and EarthKind™For Example Belinda’s Dream and Sea Foam

© 2010 & 2011 Philip Paul

Page 4: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Definitions – Petal Count Terms

Single = 4-8 single row

Semi-Double = 9-16

Double = 17-25

Full = 26-40

Very Full = 41+

Page 5: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

What makes “Easier Care” Roses? Grow Well on their own

Minimal Irrigation (Can thrive on nature’s water)

Drought Tolerant

Minimal, if any Spraying

Good Sun exposure

Plants spaced well for maximum air flow

Pruning often not necessary

Spent blooms drop on their own

Lives well on own rootstock

Superior Genetics

EarthKind uses the same list

Page 6: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Two Ways to get it Done

Select the Easiest Care Rose in the first place!

Find ways to use Organic approaches

to Disease & Pest Management(Not an easy task in the Florida Heat & Humidity)

Page 7: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

What Roses are Harder Care?

Sorry to say, It’s the Modern Rose

Hybridization can have itsdownside in the genetics

ARS has studies underway to find“Easy Care” Hybrid Tea Roses

Page 8: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Let’s Talk About Good EasierCare Rose Selection

Are there proven roses that are actually easier to care for?

Yes, There are whole families we should discuss

Old Garden Roses (Roses created before 1867)

Older Modern Roses (after 1867 to ~1945)

Easy Care Modern Roses

Shrub Class Roses

Knock Out Family of Roses (William Radler, Star Roses)

EarthKind Roses® (Most definitive effort to date)

Page 9: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Antique Roses

Mrs. B.R. Cant1901

FrancisDubreuil

1894

Page 10: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

The Duchess de Brabant 1857Teddy Roosevelt’s Favorite

Page 11: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

The Knockout Rose

BeautifulKnockout RosePath at Mable

Ringling Gardens

Page 12: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Antique Roses

Someone recently told me that they thought –

If these roses can live for a hundred or more years

in a cemetery or old church yard with noirrigation, no spray program and probably nofertilization -

HOW EASY CAN IT GET!!!!!!

Page 13: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

A Demonstration Garden for the citizensof

Sarasota County

Page 14: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

• 1845 US Government Public Land turned over to Florida when itjoined the Union

• 1916 Edson and Nettie Keener Keith purchased the 60 acre land• Moved here from Chicago to live year round• Built Italian Renaissance Mansion on the property

• 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes)• Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant & Inn• After the death of Mrs. Prodie in 1986, Sarasota County Purchased

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• The first garden was built close to today’s location

• Nettie was a member ofMable Ringling’s Founder’s Garden Club

• Where possible, we have tried to duplicate some of heroriginal roses or at least the roses planted over the last20 years

Page 16: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Original Mansion & Rose Garden1925

Rose Garden on East Side Had a Palm Tree in Center

Page 17: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Edson & Nettie Keith enjoying Florida

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Phillippi Aerial View 1946

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The Demonstration Garden Over 20 Years ago the B-SRS went to Dr. Manners

Obtained cuttings from many Bermuda Mystery and OGRPlanted them in Phillippi Estate Park, Sarasota

In March 2009 we returned to that garden

B-SRS offered to take over maintenance and invigorate

It took 3 seconds for the County of Sarasota to agree

We found the gardens in only fair shape

Several key OGRs were in final stages of life

Decided to retain OGR/EarthKind orientation

Page 20: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

What is Unique about thePhillippi Estate Rose Garden? A collection of 70 different antique varieties

Roses that require no spraying of pesticides

Micro Irrigation to each plant (cost saving of ~50%) Pinpoints water to where it does the most good

Slow release nitrogen and phosphorous fertilization In compliance with City and County of Sarasota Laws

The Nettie Keener Keith Rose Garden and the RinglingGardens are the principal gardens featuring antique roses inthis part of Florida

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Most of these Roses are Antiquesbut have many other qualities-- The oldest rose in this garden is ‘Le Vésuve’ 1825

There are 6 “found roses” in the beds

From old churches, public buildings, cemeteries by roserustlers

3 Bermuda Mystery roses found by Dr. Malcolm Manners

The “Florida Rose” ‘Belinda’s Dream’

The “Teddy Roosevelt Rose” ‘Duchesse de Brabant’

11 EarthKind™ roses

First Hybrid Tea Rose ‘La France’ 1867

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Types of Roses to be Found Here China

Tea

Noisette

Hybrid Perpetual

Hybrid Musk

Polyantha

Bourbon

Page 23: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

2009 – 2011 Program Developed a “Public Demonstration Garden”

Low Volume Irrigation (Plan, Hold Class, Rebuild Irrigation)

Sarasota Fertilization Law

No Spray

Remove dead plants

Invigorate the garden ( Remove weeds, redress soil, mulch)

Starting Point 24 bushes (But what were they??)

Purchase or Contribute new plants By November 2009 50 Plants in place (Dedication)

By July 2010 - 64 Plants in Place

By April 2011 – 70 Plants in Place

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Garden November 2009

PIX of Garden Here

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Garden in October 2010

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EarthKind® RosesIn the Garden

‘Duchesse de Brabant’ ‘Belinda’s Dream’‘Mutabilis’

‘Souv de St. Anne’s’ ‘La Marne’ ‘ Georgetown Tea’

Page 27: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

The King of the Garden‘Archduke Charles’

China 1837 - Original Occupant of the Garden

Page 28: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Other Antique Roses

‘Mrs. B. R. Cant’

‘Paul Neyron’

Page 29: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

A Few More

‘Napoleon’ ‘Prairie Breeze’

‘Lady Hillingdon’

‘Old Blush’1751 ‘Rose de Rescht’

‘Trinity’ BMR

Page 30: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Other Antique RosesIn the Garden

‘Louis Philippe’ ‘Caldwell Pink’Pink’

‘Maggie’FOUND

‘Jeanne D’Arc’

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Mrs R. M. Finch

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New Roses Added in 2010 Mme. Antoine Mari

1901 Tea pb 8.1

Green Rose

Glorie des Rosomanes1825 China mr

Mme. Laurette Messimy

1887 China dp

Bishop Darlington

1926 HMsk ab 7.8

Le Vésuve

1825 China pb 8.4

Papa Gontier1883 Tea pb 8.1

Alister Stella Gray

1894 Noisette ly 8.0

Clotilde Soupert

1890 Pol white 7.7

Baronne Prévost

1841 HP mp 8.6

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Antique Roses-- Grow well in our area (light fertilization, almost no spray) Phil’s Picks- Year ARS Rating

Louis Philippe China Rose 1834 8.7 Mrs. B.R. Cant Tea Rose 1901 8.9 was 8.7 Francis Dubreuil Tea Rose 1894 8.0 Duchesse de Brabant* Tea Rose 1857 8.6 Sombreuil Large Climber 1880 8.8 The Fairy* Polyantha 1932 8.7 La Marne* Polyantha 1915 8.7 Old Blush China 1751 8.7 Mutabilis* China 1894 8.7 Carefree Beauty*/ Found Shrub 1979 8.6

Katy Road Pink

Souv de la Malmaison Bourbon 1843 8.4* Indicates also EarthKind™ Rose

MOST MODERN ROSES WOULD KILL FOR THOSE RATINGS !!

Page 34: Using Roses from Sarasota Demonstration Gardens Program ... · • 1939 Second owner Mae Hansen Prodie (Barbie Doll Wardrobes) • Husband oversaw Phillippi Plantation Restaurant

Where Can I Get Antique Roses?

Angel Gardens – Gainesville [email protected]

Antique Rose Emporium – Texas (Biggest line of OGRs)

Chamblee’s Rose Nursery – Texas (All EarthKind Available)

Crowley’s Nursery -- Sarasota

Roses Unlimited – South Carolina

Rose Glen Gardens – Naples www.roseglengardens.com

Goodwood Museum – Tallahassee

Check the B-SRS Web Site for address/phone informationwww.b-srs.org Go to the Supplier Section

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The Bottom Line

Belinda’s Dream the first EarthKind® Rose & called the

Florida Rose – Always a success

Old Roses stand up well

Knock Out Shrubs are always Easy Care

Modern Roses are a lot of work, but the beauty is worth it

Your enjoyment will expand with OGR & EarthKind

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Where Can I Get More Information?

The B-SRS Web Site www.b-srs.orgThis talk can be found on the website

The EarthKind™ Web Site http://earthkindroses.tamu.edu

G. Michael Shoup’s Book “Roses in the Southern Garden”