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Cross-pol l inat ion and Eclect ic iThe End of the OrdersMagick vs Myst ic ismbytAntero Alii


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C O N T E N T SEditor's Foru m 1

Kenneth DeighEclecticism , the Un iversal Tradition 3

Kenneth DeighT he End of the Orders 6Don Michael KraigA W ord on Madness 8Purusas 252Interview with Pa trick Zalewski 9Laura Jennings-YorkeMagick and M ysticism 14

Antero AliiBlessed B e 19 Karen HeasterTh e Book of Anubis 21

AxisOcculture 25E.O.D.Magic as Tool 2 8

StarburstRy'leh Rising 3 0

Rick McCollum & Kenn DayA Relatively Improbable Parable 3 8

Frank BairdReviews 40Letters 42Magick and the Stars 4 7A.I.W.A.F.Th e N ex t Step: Recycling the Elements 4 9T. R. Kok

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E DI T OR'S F O R U MW e live in a world of constant and

perpetual change. W he n the Candlemasissue of Mezlim was going to press, thecon flict in Kuwait was just beginning toheat up. Now - only a few months later -the war is already over and the clean up hasbegun.

For a few long weeks, while first the airstrikes and then the ground war wore downthe forces of Iraq, the violence and turmoilof the Middle East became very real andimmediate to the Am erican public. W ewere no longer standing on the sidelineswatching while people we didn't knowfought a war that we didn't understand.

How are we, as Magickal practitioners, toview this conflict? W h at does it mean tous? What does it mean for our planet?

While there are no easy answers to any ofthese questions, there are some observationsI would like to make.

Did anyone expect the transition fromthe old aeon to the new one to be painless,bloodless and calm? As long as there arethose who cling to the past, there will beconflict when others seek to move forward.This is true at all levels of existence, fromthe individual to the global.

Th e Ara b world is a strange and volatilemixture of tradition, mystery, dreams andcustoms. W hile there are many Arabs whoare successfully taking their places in themodem world, there are also those whoprefer to dream of the Islam that existedover a thousand years ago. T h e IslamicMezlim

empire was once a vibrant culture, spanningthe known world from No rth Africa up intoEurope, from Spain to India. It was thelargest empire the world had known at thattime, and it went the way of all greatempires, fading away into history.

The attitudes of those who cling to thepast - in any culture - will bring them intoconflict with those who seek to m oveforward. For all his pretense of Socialism,Saddam H ussein was a dictator of the oldschool. He ruled his people as if he wereliving in the days of the Islamic Empire.And there are those who want to be ruled -to submit to the will of the chieftain - theone who leads.

This conflict is not about Arabs,Christians and Jews - it is about those whocling to the past. Th ey are angry. Th ey seethat their world is dying, as a new world isborn. Rat her than chan ge and grow withthe new, they seek to destroy those whochoose to move forward.

This explanation is overly simplistic, butit does give us something to think about.This same conflict occurs within each of usas we struggle with the parts of ourselvesthat wish to halt our growth - to not moveon into the unknown and the unknowable.Will we choose to identify with our future,or remain in the past? The choice is ours.

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ECLECTICISMThe Universal TraditionBy Kenneth Deigh

With the current proliferation ofMagickal systems and Traditions fromvarious cultures, it's easy to lose sight of thefact that we all share the same basictradition. N o matter what our gene tic,conceptual, cultural or religiousbackground, we all have this one root incomm on - Human Ex perience. Th is is thewellspring from which all world religionsand philosophies have been drawn.Recognizing that we all share this origin willgo a long way in overcoming our confusionand establishing a more cohesive identitythat goes beyond the cultural - to the trulyHuman.

We are living in an age that offers usunprecedented access to the knowledge,beliefs and speculations of those who havecome before us, as well as new methods andtechnology for advancing our ownunderstanding of our cosmos. T h e on ething most ofus lack is a sense of unifyingcultural identity w hich allows us toexperience the world in the same way as"everyone else" does. It is questionab lewhether this void can be filled by fallingback on the rituals and perspectives of ourancestors. W e live in a different world - onethat has its own needs - its own symbols.However, the bits and pieces of myth andlegend are powerful resources wh ich we candraw on to create a new and vibrant culturalidentity.

When humans gathered in isolated tribalgroups, it was fairly easy to maintain acomprehensive worldview, unchallenged byoutsiders. All members of a tribe looked to

the tribal sham an. It was his job to explainthe mysteries of the world, and only he hadto cope with them d irectly. Th is led to avery simplistic belief structure, but one that"worked" because there was nothing and noone to contradict it.

As these tribal groups moved into citiesand began to mingle, there must have beensome confusion about who had the "RealTruth." W e can assume tha t the leaders hadto coordinate their efforts, explaining theapparent discrepancies between theirstories, thus creating the first religions.

W e no longer ha ve a tribalshaman to intercede for us.With the advent of the "global village,"we are faced with a much greater diversity

of custom and perspective. T h e problemthat we face today is one of personalresponsibility. W e no longer have a tribalshaman to interced e for us. It is up to eachof us,as individuals, to create our ownunique and eclectic expression of theUniversal Tradition.

ResourcesThe burst of technology which has

created the information age has alsoprovided us with an overwhelming set ofresources. W e have access to the m usings ofgenerations of practitioners of differenttraditions. W e are no t bound by any oneparticular school of thought but can pickand chose from as many as we like.

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Along with the increase in informationfrom the past, technology brings a muchmore important innovation - globalcom mu nication. Th is gives us access to thegreatest resource of all - ea ch oth er. Eventhe traditions which proclaim themselves tobe of "pure and direct lineage" often havedrawn on the resources of the very groupswhich they so vehem ently avoid. A perfectexample of this would be the variousW icc an groups which despise "cerem onialmagick" without realizing that their ownrituals are drawn from identical sources -such as the Golden Dawn.

Th ere are so many opportunities open tous at this point in Human ev olution. W ehave the chance to explore the writings ofthose who hav e gon e before us as well as ourcontemporaries; to become Adept at thepractice of Magick; to go beyond th ecurre nt parameters. Togethe r, the ability todraw on the past and the present gives usunprecedented capability to create anddefine our own Magickal path.

We have an opportunity togo far beyond what has beendone before. W hy reinventthe wheel?A good example of this is found in my

own work withThe Spell of ENKI. Drawnfrom my work with Ch aldean deities, theform of this ritual was greatly inspired bySam Webster'sSpell ofRa Hoor K huit(Mezlim volume I, issue 2), which in turn, Iwould imagine, had its inspiration in theIN RI formula and Crowley's Book of theLaw. Both the form and the content ofthese rituals have grown and developed dueto our ability to access the variety ofmag ickal resources available to us as

working Magi in this society.Another point I might add here is that it

is important to give credit to the resourcesyou use. Th is can be easy to forget withsuch a broad spectrum to draw from . (Justlike I forgot to footnote The Spell of ENKIwith a credit to Sam .) Th is is the essence ofour new lineage. Th is is how we can tracethe growth and dev elopmen t of our ownburgeoning tradition of Eclec ticism. To notgive credit where it is due is to cut ourselvesofffromour roots.Magick - Mirror of Society

Eclecticism is a perfect exam ple o f how amagickal system reflects the current culture.Som e would argue that ec lecticism is no t avalid system in its own right, because of itsapparent lack of coh eren t structure.However, to my mind this simply underlinesthe nature of eclecticism. T h e structure,like tha t of our whole w orld today, issomewhat different for each person - such isthe nature of sovereignty.

Since we have the tools and records ofgenerations and various traditions of thosewho have come before us, we have anopportunity to go far beyond what has beendone before. Why reinvent the wheel?

This is the apparent direction ofeclecticism - that magick can become amore and more personal expression;reflecting the W ill of the A eo n as well asthe essence of our culture. T h is is not t o saythat Eclectisicm is the only valid reflectionof the New Aeon, but it is certainly aneffective one. It is the ove r-all diversity ofform and content which effectivelyillustrates the vast wealth of opportunityavailable to us in this age. T h is op portunityis the same, whether it is expressed throughMagick, Science, Literature or Art.



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W he re do we go from here?As M agi, we have the profound roots of

human ex perience to draw upon in ourpersonal quest to cont rol our destiny. Th isapplies to our work as a species as well.Evolution takes place on many levelssimultaneously. As eac h ofusdevelops inthe Great Work, we carry the whole ofhum anity along w ith us. For us to forget ourcon nectio n to the rest of Humanity is -once again - to cut ourselves off from ourroots.

It is difficult to keep in mind that you areintrinsically con nect ed to all those"mundanes" out there - including the onestha t tailgate you when you're driving. Butyou - and they - are all a part of the samespecies. And all ofusare affected by thechanges which we bring about through theuse ofourW ill. W e - the Magi - are like thehead ofagreat winding serpent. W herev erwe go - the body w ill follow, but w hereshould we go? Un less - in th e midst of allthis diversity, we can create some sort ofunity o f purpose, we will accom plishnothing but dispersion.

W ha t can we do? W her e can we lead therest of the body of Hum anity? The se arethe questions that we will face in thecoming century. With all these resourcesand opportunities comes a great andinescapable responsibility. Th ose who havethe power to choose - must choose. Th erole of the groups and "orders" that arebeing born during th is passage from on e ageto another, will be to address thesequestions, and to guide humanity into thefuture. N o longer can we cautiously prodhuman evolution from the relative safety ofthe sidelines. Instead w e must step forwardand begin to serve as active and energeticmembers o f society.

There was a time when the Magi were

honored by the people, and their guidancerespected. Thr oug h our united efforts wecan help to restore the existence of such aworld.

What about the individual Magusthough? With all the diversity, it's difficultto know what to do "locally" to promote thechanges we desire. T h e nature of this Aeonis such that there can be no o ne to answerthe questions for you. It is the responsibilityof each ofus to determine our own path.

There are always places to look for input.Th ere are more and more teaching orderscoming out into the open. Many of theseare working to unveil the Mysteries of thepast ages, and to make the wisdom andlearning of the a ncien t schools accessibleand available to any who seek.

Eclecticism smashes throughthe barriers of lim itation andhelps us to recognize thebonds which hold ustogether.

If youare unfamiliar with Magick, find asystem that will teach you the fundamentalsin a way that you feel comfortable with.Th is can be any effective system of M agick.When you have mastered those techniques,you can move forward from there to createyour own personalized system of M agick,drawing on your experience as a Being ofLight - a Human.

From here, there is literally no limit towhat you can do. Eclec ticism smashesthrough the barriers of limitation and helpsus to recognize the bonds which hold ustogether. From here, we must let go of thedefinitions that have tied us to the past.W e m ust let go of everything tha t we havebeen - so that we can becom e.



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THE ENDOFTHEORDERSBy Donald Michael Kraig

There is a famous story about howAleister Crowley made incredibly intensevows not to release their secrets when hejoined the Golden Dawn. An d what werethose secrets? Th e nam es of the planets andthe Hebrew alphabet. Mo st mod emscholars laugh at this silliness. Bu t was itsilly at the time?

Crowley was initiated into the GoldenDawn before the turn of the century. Howmany ofyourbooks were originallypublished before tha t date? Probably damnfew. A nd th e few that were publishedcovered varied individual topics and did notpresent a coh ere nt system. Even th e famedcoursebook The Magus is at best a hodge-podge of stolen material. Know ing thatastrology, the Kabalah, and alchemicalsymbolism (as well as real alchemy) werepart of magick was a secret when Crowleywas initiated into the Golde n Daw n. Suchis not the case today.

Today there are literally hundreds ofbooks, bo th of quality and of dubious value,that are available on the subject of magickand mysticism. M ost of the "secrets" of theGolden Dawn, the O.T.O. and severalWiccan traditions as well as other groupshave been published. People "ecle cticiz e"through their reading and personal practice.This leads one to ask, "Are magickal Ordersstill v iable T

Yes, but really only for two reasons. T h efirst is for compa nionsh ip with people of alike mind. On e of the most common lettersI receive is from individuals asking wherethey can meet others with similar interests.It can be pretty lonely wanting to discuss

the m etaphysical nature o f the universewith a person who only wants to talk aboutwho sang for Milli Van illi. How do youdiscuss the subjective reality of the astralwith someone who thinks that "subjective"only means part ofaparsed sent enc e. An d,it's difficult to talk about Magic withsomeone whose primary interest is theweekend's sports scores. Th us , mag icalOrders can function as social groups forinteraction of like-minded people. But ifyour personal networking is such that youhave enough social contact to be beyondthe need ofa group for such interaction, thisreason for having a group is irrelevant.

The second reason is more important.Because so much information on magick isavailable, many magicians are poorlytrained. I know this sounds like acontrad iction, but it is true. M any peoplehave read so many incom plete, incorrectbooks on magick, or books that are isolatedfrom the mainstream of magick, that theydo not have a clear view o f any one systemof magick. The y do an occasiona l mag icalritual instead ofbeinga magician - a personwho lives, w ho is magick.

Thu s, a well-designed Ord er can have asystem of training that changes a personfrom knowing nothing, little, some or muchabout magick into a mag ician. Th ey do thisthrough the implementation of systematicstudy and practice, achievement in whichbeing indicated through some form of actualorde facto degree system. Un fortu nate ly,most Orders treat their initiates as genericnon -entities. Even if you hav e enoughknowledge and experience (as a result ofworking with other groups or throughpersonal study from the many books that areavailable) to be in an Order's highest

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degree, you are thrown in with those whohave little or no knowledge and experience.

Here is where problems can develop.Many people seem to think that there is auniversal system of magick . If it exists, Ihav e not seen it. True, ther e are similaritiesbetween all styles of magick, but thedifferences exist because everyone is anindividual and there is a subjective aspect ofmagick which must be inspired in theinitiate (or more appropriately, which theinitiate must inspire in himself or herself).Thu s, W icc a is not for everyone. No r is theGolden Dawn or Chaos m agick or theSheya system, or TO PY , or Th elem a. But ifyou are interested you may read books onthese subjects and becom e knowledgeablein some of the techniques/philosophies ofthe various systems. T h e people who dothis may be future leaders in the world ofmagick. An d most Orders will plunk themdown with people who exp ect to wave awand, read something (poorly) from a bookand have a beasty appear in a cloud ofsulfurous smoke.

So, the best and the brightest futuremagicians are frequently bored and/ordisappointed when they join an Order.They may take techniques and knowledgefrom other organizations or from books theyhave read and practiced th at are irrelevantand inappropriate and use them to augmentthe Order's teachings. An d since they arebright, other not-so-knowledgeablemembers look at what they are doing andstart copying them . Suddenly, a GoldenDawn group becomes Thelemic or aThelem ic group becomes Wicca n or aWiccan group becomes a Golden Dawngroup. Soo ner or later the leaders of thegroup have to regain contr ol. And theresult is either a split in the Order or theOrder breaks up altogether.

Make no mistake, the fault here is that ofthe leaders of the Order. By functioninglike we are living in 1891 instead of 1991and trying to avoid the eclectic reality dueto individual study of the numerous booksthat are available, they have brought itupon themselves.

T h e time for Orders is over. Or, moreappropriately, the time for Orders that haverefused to change with the current realitiesis past. Orders still make wonderful socialgroups. If Orders recognize the individualityof the members they can a ttain greatstrength . An d finally, Orders need todifferentiate but not limit: i.e., tell theirmembers that a certain technique is notpart of the O rder and should n ot be done inan Order setting, but give people thefreedom to practice other things on theirown.

Or perhaps it is time for the birth of atruly eclect ic Order - no, make th at a schoolwhere people from all paths can come andshare. In the 1950s and '60s there was aphilosophy that Black people were identicalto W hite s except for their skin color. W ha twas forgotten in an aura of ersatzbrotherhood was culture and individuality.I still believe that people from all culturesare capable of living together, but asindividuals - not in a grey melting pot thatignores the beauties ofculture. Likewise, Ifeel that the time is right for a school thatwill allow all to share, learn, investigate andexperiment without partisan stupidities.Such a school will allow for a trueeclecticism - an eclecticism that will notmerge all into a bland stew, but w ill allowindividuals to work with th eir interests tothe greater benefit of all.



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The dangers ofthe magickan's pathare many, and n otthe least of themcom e from HIrself.The threat ofmadness is alingering worry inthe back of thepractitioner's head,rarely m adeconscious until toolate.

A WORD ONMADNESSBy Purusas 252 ^ ^ I H I H I I I V " BSS1 of that teacher's

Sanity is like afulcrum-point, withbalance beingmaintained on bothsides. When it istipped too far, by an excess of power on oneside or another, the fulcrum slips andbalan ce is lost. Th os e sides can beconsidered as commo n reality and magickalreality. Bo th can endure tremendousamounts of power, which manifests asatten tion and focus, but both must beattended to equally to maintain thebalance.

working in the far corners of Ch aos.Th e primary danger to the solo magickan

is that of isolation from his fellow peers.Isolation precedes madness. In our tendencyto gravitate toward those who understandus, we inadvertently protect ourselves fromthis danger. But often our wanderings tak eus far from any shared system.

m agic kal reality. It isthe sharingof thatreality w hich isimportant here. Insharing the newvision of the world,the stu dent is linking combiningmag ickal reality andcommon reality. Nomatter how muchpower and intensitythe student issubjected to, it isbalanced throughcontact with theteacher'sunderstanding. Thisknowledge isessential when

The primary danger to thesolo magickan is that ofisolation from his fellowpeers.In eastern mysticism, a teacher is the

accepted failsafe of the student. A tea che rwill guide the student within the confines

But often our wanderings take us far fromany shared system. An d, in order to grow,we must go outside the known places of ourworld, even those shared magickal realms.A fellow traveller, if not a teacher, can beyour safeguard in these places. As on e whohas walked upon th e tightrop e of sanity andmadness, I share with you here what I havelearned.



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INTERVIEWWITHPATRICKZALEWSKI

C h i e f o f t h e T h o t h -Hermes Temple, NewZealandby Laura Jennings-YorkeO na recentvisit to New Zealand I obtainedthe following interview with Pat Zalewski, whois one of theforemost livingauthorities on theGolden Dawn System today. He has justfinished five books for Llewellyn Publications,two of whichwill be released soon. Altogetherthere are more than 20 books on every phase ofthe Golden Dawn system, includingmuchInner Order material which has never beenrevealed.Laura: As a member ofachartered templewith lineage back to the Mathers Templeand the Stella Matutina, what made youdecide to go public with the G D materialyou are doing for Llewellyn's?P at : My wife, Chris, and I made thedecision for much the same reasons IsraelRegardie did. W e saw elderly Adepti fromthe now defunct Wh are Ra Temple of NewZealand who were unable to pass on theirknowledge, notes, and papers before theirdeaths. This eliminated the possibility ofanyone receiving the benefit of theirexperience. W e wanted to make certainthat any notes we had would be passed onMezlim

for others to improve on, and to use as astepping stone for further revelations of theintricate teachings of the Order. Upo n ourdeaths, all of our books and papers will beconsigned to the National Library inWellington, New Zealand.Laura: How did the ex-members of theWhare Ra Temple react to your books andthe publishing of formerly secretinformation?Pa t: Som e thought it was scandalous,others actively encouraged us. When JackTaylor, our teacher, took us through theGrade Rituals, he reworded our oaths, sothat any revealing of information learnedwould be entirely left to the dictates of ourown conscien ces. He actually didencourage us at a later date to publish thematerial in order to preserve it for posterity.Laura: In reading your books, especially th e

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unpublished manuscripts, it appears thatyou were privy to an enormous amount ofmaterial that Israel Regardie was unawareof. Where did this information originate?P a t : First, let me say th at we hav e onlypublished a fraction of the teachings wereceived. Most of this is pertaining toritual, and is extremely interesting andvaluable to those who wish to effectivelyuse the G D system.Most of the historical Golden DawnTemples broke up too quickly for any longrange evaluations based upon their practiceand experim entation. Sin ce the WTiare RaTemple o f New Zealand, wh ich began underthe direction ofMr.Felkins, remainedactive for over 30 years, new layers ofmeaning and instructions were provided.M uch of those teachings were given byword of mouth. Our teacher, Jack Taylor,who was taught by Mrs. Felkins, gave usaccess to these teachings. W e in turnincorporated them into our own researchwork.Laura: I understand th at you were a friendof Israel Regardie's in th e last years of hislife. Did he ever make any comm ent aboutthe information you are putting into yourbooks?P a t : Regardie cam e to visit us in NewZealand in 1973. A t that time he looked

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over the papers and said that he would haveliked to include it in his rewrite of theoriginal "Golden Dawn System of Magic".To do so he would have had to completelyrewrite the book , wh ich was already at th eprinters. He did mention tha t we had a lotof data that he had neve r seen before.Laura: In your first book, w hic h waspublished by another publisher, I noticedthat your rank of 7=4 was prominentlydisplayed on the cov er of th e b ook and inthe advertising. Ma ny would say thatgrades beyond 5=6 (Adeptus Minor) aremeaningless. Would you like to com me nton this?Pa t: I had requested that th e publisher notprint any grade rank in connection with thebook, but they did so without mypermission. I guess it seemed a good"advertising point". I do no t personallyconsider it of importance to anyone exceptmyself. W he n the book cam e out, I wasplaced in the position of denying the fact orof acknowledging it. I cho se to do thelatter.As to the validity of grades of a higher level,only the individual knows that for himself.History says that Mathers gave the 7=4grade to a number of Am erica ns before190 0. Go od authority has it tha t at thetime of his own death he claimed to haveachieved 8=3.As to the ceremonies and their validity Iwould hardly call them meaningless.Those that make such statements haveobviously not had the experience ofparticipating in such cerem onies. Th eydefinitely make greater levels of awarenessavailable to each participant.Laura: There has been some questionraised in the occult community because the

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L aura : Do you presently work with orthrough any other temples in the world?P a t : For the past five years we have b eenworking closely with Ra Horakhty Temple,Hermetic Society of the Golden Dawn inth e U S , wh ich is your group. I feel it hasbeen a good, reciprocal, workingrelationship and we are quite pleased withyour creation ofa successful active temple.As I mentioned, this is not something wewish to do in New Zealand, but it is goodsom eon e is doing it. W e refer inquiries toRa Horakhty who are interested in thisphase of the work.W e have had a number o f inquiries alsofrom abroad from persons wishing to chartera temple. Th is requires a lot of work on thepart of the group wanting a charter - 2 yearsprobationary time to set up a workingtemple and have it working well, review ofall mem bers, curriculums, etc . I believe youwill be going to France, Brazil, Spain andsome other areas to visit and advise theseapplicants.L aura : Yes. We're hoping groups dedicatedto the Work will spring up and persevere allover the world, making th e G D systemavailable to a lot more peop le. Our templehas had inquiries from every part of theglobe even Russia, Czechoslovakia,Phillipines, Japan , Africa, etc. Ou r templehas members in San Paulo, Brazil, PuertoRico, Spain, and a number in other statesand European countries. W e are hopingsome of them will continue and begin theirown temples.Do you and your wife, Chris, plan to cometo the US at any time in the near future?Pat : Icame over to do a workshop on the0=0 ceremony, and a couple of lectures a

few years back for AI O . It was quiteenjoyable, and I met a num ber of dedicatedpeople. My plans are to com e over againwithin the next year or two, after a few ofmy books are in print. Th is time my wife,Chr is, will be com ing with me. Sh e is anexc ellent alchem ist and ritualist, and will beteaching with me. We will be coming toWashington state for A IO . If anyone inother areas is interested in bringing us totheir area, they can contact you to arrange aschedule.

Inquiriesmaybe sent to:Laura Jennings-Y orkeCo-C hief , Ra Horakhty TempleHermetic Society of the Golden Dawn31849 Pacific Highway South, Suite 107Federal Way, Wash ington 98 00 3

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