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WG3 – Part 3 - Design Studies WG3 – Part 3 - Design Studies Introduction Introduction View from Europe View from Europe - RE - RE Japan Japan - Yoshi Kuno - Yoshi Kuno US US - Mike - Mike Zisman Zisman Conclusions from the discussion Conclusions from the discussion

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WG3 – Part 3 - Design Studies. Introduction View from Europe - RE “ “ Japan - Yoshi Kuno “ “ US - Mike Zisman Conclusions from the discussion. Introduction. Two years since Study II A lot has been done since then - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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WG3 – Part 3 - Design StudiesWG3 – Part 3 - Design Studies

• IntroductionIntroduction

• View from Europe View from Europe - RE- RE

• “ “ “ “ JapanJapan - Yoshi Kuno- Yoshi Kuno

• “ “ “ “ USUS - Mike Zisman- Mike Zisman

• Conclusions from the discussionConclusions from the discussion

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IntroductionIntroduction

• Two years since Study IITwo years since Study II

• A lot has been done since thenA lot has been done since then

• Time to start thinking about a third studyTime to start thinking about a third study

• Much better:Much better: world studyworld study

• Europe, Japan and USEurope, Japan and US

• Parallel session of WG3 devoted to thisParallel session of WG3 devoted to this

• Views of each regionViews of each region

• Discussion on how to form world-wide studyDiscussion on how to form world-wide study

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View from…….EuropeView from…….Europe

• No design study so farNo design study so far

• Work started late 1990sWork started late 1990s

• Much achievedMuch achieved

• Two layouts: Two layouts: CERN (complete)CERN (complete) RAL (under development) RAL (under development)

• Effort dramatically reduced by CERN budget cutsEffort dramatically reduced by CERN budget cuts

• ECFA task forces re-organised ECFA task forces re-organised European Neutrino GroupEuropean Neutrino Group

• Very important:Very important: rejuvenate EU activities rejuvenate EU activities

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Design Study – European ViewDesign Study – European View

• Fixed by EU Framework 6 programmeFixed by EU Framework 6 programme

• FP5: FP5: 2 Neutrino Factory related bids, both failed2 Neutrino Factory related bids, both failed

• FP6: FP6: ESGARD formed - coordinated bid for accelerator R&DESGARD formed - coordinated bid for accelerator R&D

• Two areas of interest: Two areas of interest: Integrating ActivitiesIntegrating ActivitiesDesign StudiesDesign Studies

• IA proposal already submitted: IA proposal already submitted: LHC upgrade, LC, NFLHC upgrade, LC, NF

• Basically for improving existing infrastructureBasically for improving existing infrastructure

IA IA Neutrino Factory, superbeam, beta beam networkNeutrino Factory, superbeam, beta beam networkHIPPI JRAHIPPI JRA

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FP6 Design StudiesFP6 Design Studies

EC will contribute to:EC will contribute to:

• Feasibility studies – Feasibility studies – paper studiespaper studies

• Technical Preparatory Work – Technical Preparatory Work – hardwarehardware

On new research infrastructures with a clear European On new research infrastructures with a clear European dimension and interest.dimension and interest.

Includes: Includes: future facilities of world-wide relevance notfuture facilities of world-wide relevance not existing in Europeexisting in Europe infrastructures constructed outside EU!infrastructures constructed outside EU!

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FP6 Design StudiesFP6 Design Studies

Feasibility studiesFeasibility studies

Aim: Aim: Lay conceptual foundations for new infrastructureLay conceptual foundations for new infrastructure

Methods:Methods:

• Basic feasibility studyBasic feasibility study

• Explore new fundamental technologyExplore new fundamental technology

• Detailed engineering design, particularly most advancedDetailed engineering design, particularly most advanced

TPWTPW

Includes:Includes:

• Development and testing of critical components, sub-systems, Development and testing of critical components, sub-systems, materials or techniques, including softwarematerials or techniques, including software

Does not include:Does not include:

• preparatory work based on existing or proven techniquespreparatory work based on existing or proven techniques

• reproduction of available components or materialsreproduction of available components or materials

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FP6 Design StudiesFP6 Design Studies

Funding:Funding:

• Total budget: Total budget: 200M€; 70M€ in first call200M€; 70M€ in first call

• EC contribution per project EC contribution per project 10M€10M€

• 50% matching required(?)50% matching required(?)

Timing:Timing:

• Call for proposals:Call for proposals: October 2003October 2003

• Deadline:Deadline: Spring 2004Spring 2004

• Evaluation results:Evaluation results: Summer 2004Summer 2004

• Contract signatures:Contract signatures: Start 2005Start 2005

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Design Study BidDesign Study Bid

• EU will make FP6 Design Study bidEU will make FP6 Design Study bid

• Essential to re-build activities in EuropeEssential to re-build activities in Europe

• Host laboratory: Host laboratory: RAL RAL (possibly!)(possibly!)

• Much better if Much better if part of world-wide design studypart of world-wide design study

• FP6 allows for/encourages thisFP6 allows for/encourages this

• May also provide some fundingMay also provide some funding

• Aim: Aim: ?DR for a Neutrino Factory ~2009?DR for a Neutrino Factory ~2009

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View from……JapanView from……Japan

• Design study published July 2002Design study published July 2002

• Little support from KEK managementLittle support from KEK management

• Based on FFAGsBased on FFAGs

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View from……JapanView from……Japan

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View from……JapanView from……Japan

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View from……JapanView from……Japan

Staging

• High Power Proton Driver– Muon g-2

• Muon Factory (PRISM)– Muon LFV

• Muon Factory-II (PRISM-II)– Muon EDM

• Neutrino Factory– Based on 1 MW proton beam

• Neutrino Factory-II– Based on 4.4 MW proton beam

• Muon Collider

Physics outcomesat each stage

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View from……JapanView from……Japan

• Would support a world-wide design studyWould support a world-wide design study

• Concern expressed about overlap due to FFAGsConcern expressed about overlap due to FFAGs

• Would prefer some level of overlap for activeWould prefer some level of overlap for activeparticipationparticipation

• Timescale depends on J-PARCnu, LC, etcTimescale depends on J-PARCnu, LC, etc

My interpretation of conclusionsMy interpretation of conclusions

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View from……..USView from……..US

Two feasibility studies so far in USTwo feasibility studies so far in US

FS1:FS1:

• Instigated by FNAL directorInstigated by FNAL director

• MC invited to participateMC invited to participate

• Focus was on feasibilityFocus was on feasibility

• First attempt to specify NF from end-to-endFirst attempt to specify NF from end-to-end

• Design based on (reasonably) well understood Design based on (reasonably) well understood technologytechnology

• No attempt to optimise costNo attempt to optimise cost

• Cost was a deliverableCost was a deliverable

• Feasibility was establishedFeasibility was established

• Performance poor, costs highPerformance poor, costs high

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View from……..USView from……..US

FS2:FS2:

• Collaboration between MC and BNL directorCollaboration between MC and BNL director

• BNL managers able to draw on resourcesBNL managers able to draw on resources

• Goal: maintain feasibility, but improve performanceGoal: maintain feasibility, but improve performance

• Cost optimisation again given lower priorityCost optimisation again given lower priority

• Performance: Performance: 6x Study I6x Study I

• Cost: Cost: 75% (but only one RLA)75% (but only one RLA)

• Still too highStill too high

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View from……..USView from……..US

FS3:FS3:

• Need to reduce costNeed to reduce cost

• Much progress already:Much progress already:Neuffer RF phase rotationNeuffer RF phase rotationFFAG ring or VRCSFFAG ring or VRCSRing coolersRing coolers

• Need to look for optimum betweenNeed to look for optimum betweenProton driverProton driverCoolingCoolingAccelerationAccelerationDetectorDetector

• But But much better if world-wide studymuch better if world-wide study

• Possible host site (MICE): Possible host site (MICE): RALRAL

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DiscussionDiscussion

Should there be a world-wide design study?Should there be a world-wide design study? YesYes

How should we proceed?How should we proceed? Create a steering groupCreate a steering group

US:US: Steve GeerSteve GeerBob PalmerBob PalmerMike ZismanMike Zisman

Japan:Japan: Yoshi KunoYoshi KunoYoshi MoriYoshi MoriKenso NakamuraKenso Nakamura

Europe:Europe: Alain Blondel(?)Alain Blondel(?)Rob EdgecockRob Edgecock

Helmut HaserothHelmut Haseroth

What should be included?What should be included? Accelerator and detectorAccelerator and detector

Name?Name? WDS1(?)WDS1(?)

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DiscussionDiscussion

Timescale?Timescale?

Format?Format?

Host laboratory?Host laboratory?

Aim?Aim?

Etc…..Etc…..