what is mcao…??? why is important the knowledge of the 3d turbulence???

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto Ragazzoni INAF – Padova (Italy) Alghero, Sept. 17 th 2008 Astronomy meets Metereology Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto Ragazzoni, Yazan Almomany, Carmelo Arcidiacono, Renato Falomo, Jacopo Farinato, Marco Gullieuszik, Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova (Italy); Emiliano Diolaiti, Matteo Lombini, Osservatorio Astronomico di Bologna (Italy); Alessia Moretti, Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova (Italy); Giampaolo Piotto, Univ. degli Studi di Padova (Italy); Enrico Marchetti, Robert Donaldson, European Southern Observatory (Germany); Roberto Turolla, Univ. Degli Studi di Padova (Italy)

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Page 1: What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO

Roberto Ragazzoni, Yazan Almomany, Carmelo Arcidiacono, Renato Falomo, Jacopo Farinato, Marco Gullieuszik, Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova (Italy);

Emiliano Diolaiti, Matteo Lombini, Osservatorio Astronomico di Bologna (Italy);Alessia Moretti, Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova (Italy);

Giampaolo Piotto, Univ. degli Studi di Padova (Italy);Enrico Marchetti, Robert Donaldson, European Southern Observatory (Germany);

Roberto Turolla, Univ. Degli Studi di Padova (Italy)

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Page 3: What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Telescope

DM1 DM2

Turbulent layers#2 #1

Atmosfera

WFS

UP

Multi Conjugated Adaptive Optics: MCAO

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

An historical perspective…

• MCAO is a “vision” of J. Beckers in 1988

• Pyramid WFS envisaged in 1995

• Layer Oriented approach is shown in Backaskog 1999 and Munich 2000

• LO approved as part of MAD in 2001

• MCAO with 3SH and LO

are on the sky in 2007!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Canary, fall 2001

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Why pyramid..?

• They take advantage of the full aperture (spot is diffraction limited on the pin of the pyramid) Better limiting magnitude

• Better aliasing (larger Strehl in HO mode)

• It is a pupil plane WFSensor!

• It is “cheap” in terms of pixels usage

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Prototyping(4 stars)

Opticaldesign

Optomechanicaldesign

Glass andAlluminum

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Laboratory test in closed loop give evidence of higher limiting magnitude for the Layer Oriented WFS w.r.t the Star Oriented ~1.5 magnitude fainter

LOWFS SHWFS

vWFS on MAD vs 3SH…: FoV of single stars enlarger ~0.95arcsec!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

The MAD-LO run• Basically the whole group of LO-MAD plus

ESO support (3 initially, then 1)

• Total of 9 contiguous nights

• First 3 night of technical run under ESO responsibility

• Then 6 nights of “GTO” basically devoted to science

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Page 13: What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

70.5”

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

• 107x107arcsec

• GLAO

• 5 NGSs

• Vmag tot=13.8

• Here is S=10%

• Var. +/- 3%

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Page 17: What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Page 18: What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Page 19: What is MCAO…??? Why is important the knowledge of the 3D turbulence???

Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Not a star!!!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

A. Moretti et al.

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

• We think to have material for further 3 science papers on other objects…

• A very productive run indeed, but….

• Which is the achieved quality compared to the SO one?

• Which is the sky coverage one can compute given the actual performances?

• Any answer will be plagues by doubts about seeing, f_G, scaling laws…

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

A. Moretti et al.

Omega Cen (public data)NGC6388 (LO data)

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

LayerOriented

Star Oriented

Layer oriented

Star Oriented

With an uniform “standard” reduction magnitude errors are slightly (10%) betterfor LO than SO, and viceversa for centroiding

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

0.45”

0.60”

0.95”

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

3x V=11.5

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

3x V=12

3x V=13

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

3x V=12

3x V=13

~1.5mag

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Red: estimates given in the 2002 paperBlue: left – actual measurements in the sky; right – laboratory measures

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Red: estimates given in the 2002 paperBlue: left – actual measurements in the sky; right – laboratory measures

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Remember that the CCD is blue-sensitive…!!!

0.70 … 0.99 0.10 … 0.25 0.07 … 0.25

!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Areas to make MCAO with NGSs more sensitive…

• Using the Taylor hypothesys

• Layer Oriented “sees” the layers of turbulence so can use “several” previous measurements to estimate the coming one (not prediction, but better SNR of WFS…

“Frozen” layer2000

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Areas to make MCAO with NGSs more sensitive…

• Using non linear co-addition of stars

• It is well known that enlarging the FoV do not improve the correction because it is lowered the thickness of turbulence sampled… if linearly coadded!!!

a

2001

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a few stars

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a few stars

This layer is sampled Ok…

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

This layer is smoothed out!!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

+ + +

Numerically averaging leads to the same trouble!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

multiply or adding the square

It only goes to zero if all the WF is flatted…

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

multiply or adding the square

It only goes to zero if all the WF is flatted…

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

multiply or adding the square

It only goes to zero if all the WF is flatted…

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Linear or non-linear…???

Layer you are “looking” (say 8km)

a lot of stars

multiply or adding the square

It only goes to zero if all the WF is flatted…

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Propagation noise is more complex…

1st DM

2nd DM

Pupil plane

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Non-linear behaviour…• Algorithm is not conventional as the “sign” of

correction is unknown• A toy-model using the “bang-bang” algorithm

gives a bandwidth that is at worst 2x less…• There is a geometrical limit, that is about 10’ for

a 42m telescope (and 25’ for a 100m one…)• This makes the gain in FoV of 25• So the overall gain is in the ballpark of 12..!!!!• One order of magnitude improvement in sky

coverage!!!

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Future of Layer Oriented• A LO instrument started in 2002 now would

produce big science• NIRVANA is not optimized for deep single arm

MCAO but, ok…• In the timescale of a new instrument LGSs

should prove their maturity (or not???)

• Unexplored ways to improve sensitivity include Taylor hypothesis usage and non-linear coaddition of reference stars

• Mixing up LGS and NGS is a safe, robust way, and there are unexplored new schemes for that

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Metapupil

4 NGSs…and 2 LGSs!

Pupil planePupil plane Focal plane

NGS

LGS

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Dealing with turbulence in MCAO Roberto RagazzoniINAF – Padova (Italy)

Alghero, Sept. 17th 2008Astronomy meets Metereology

Conclusions…

• Beating 3D turbulence, after 20yrs from the J”D”B is a reality…

• MCAO is in its infancy…

• There are unexplored realms where NGSs based MCAO can achieve larger sky coverage…

• LGS are being deployed on a few sites and will progress as well…

• Stay tuned for a turbulent future!!!