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Who Neuteredthe Holy Spirit?!

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Cotets

rayer ad "troductio #

Was the Holy Spirit aroud i the Old Testamet? $

Was the Holy Spirit aroud i theNew Testamet %efore etecost? &

So what happeed at etecost? 11

So why should we really wat the Holy Spirit? 'o(t wealready ha)e the *fulless+ of the Spirit if we(re *sa)ed+? 1,

What if "(m the oe that is euteri- the Holy Spirit?! 1&

eah/ whate)er. How %ad could it %e? What ca theHoly Spirit do to me ayway? 01

"f more Holy Spirit is a)aila%le to me/ how do " -et it? 0

Ha)e 2postles ad rophets ceased too? #3

Thirtee 4asy Ways to 5rie)e the Holy Spirit ##

What 'o " 'o Now? #6

2ppedi7 2 8 Waa Hear The 9oice of 5od? #

2ppedi7 : 8 2re you sure you -uys are(t uts? 60






Father God, please open the eyes of our understanding and give uswisdom. Please bind up anything of the enemy – or anything of US for thatmatter – that would get in Your way. We dont want to hear from !an, wewant to hear from You. Please show us what is truth and rule and reign inthis time. Please write Your "ruth on our hearts. Father, as the vehi#le forthis writing, $ ta%e full responsibility for anything here that isnt pure and

true, let any damage done from it be on my head. &et everything that isntof You drop harmlessly to the ground. Please, 'bba( $n the mighty name of)esus *hrist, our &ord, 'men.

There are ig gia!t chu!#s of $Christia!ity% that seems to thi!# that someo!e !eutere& the'oly (pirit. ) grew up i! o!e of those chu!#s a!& o!e &ay ) starte& *uestio!i!g e"erythi!gthey were telli!g me + whe! ) saw they were!t fee&i!g the poor, clothi!g the !a#e&, ta#i!g i!the poor wa!&erer, etc., i! a!y susta!tial measure as a perce!tage of their u&get. )mpretty sure thats the O-/ stuff o! the fi!al $(heep a!& the oats% e1am i! Matthew 2.3esus is -OT goi!g to say, $) !ee&e& a cha!&elier a!& you &i&!t uy me o!e. ) was&esperate for a Power Poi!t prese!tatio! a!& you &i&!t gi"e me o!e.% /eah, you get thei&ea. Do!t gi"e me your cheap tal#, ) wa!t to see your u&get. T'4T spea#s the truth aoutyour priorities.

4!yway, it seems that there is a large chu!# of fol#s that ha"e ee! taught that the 'oly (piritshowe& up at Pe!tecost for the first time, la!&e& o! twel"e 4postles, &i& some cool stuff li#eprophecy a!& heali!g a!& to!gues a!& wor& of #!owle&ge a!& &eli"eri!g &emo!s, a!& the!whe! the 5ile was complete& seems to ha"e ecome !othi!g more tha! a eefe& upco!scie!ce that ge!tly urges us away from thi!gs that are a& for us. i#e someo&y 6ustwhac#e& off all of the 'oly (pirits powerful, multiplicatio! parts There are ma!y sects ofChristia!ity that !e"er &iscuss the 'oly (pirit at all or completely a"oi& the 5oo# of 4cts forfear that someo!e might as# a! emarrassi!g *uestio!.

Tech!ically calle& $Cessatio!ists% they thi!# that the ifts of the (pirit a!& ei!g ale to hearo& spea# to us stoppe& 8cease&9 whe! the 5ile was complete. To support this positio!you ha"e to go through some serious scriptural gym!astics + the most a!!oyi!g of which 8tome9 is that you ha"e to elie"e that o& cha!ges, that the 4postles were u!i*ue a!& specialme!, that o&, i! fact, )( a respecter of perso!s a!& that the 'oly (pirit is!t really asimporta!t a part of the o&hea& as 'e use& to e. /ou also ha"e to come to the co!clusio!that the reat Commissio! i! Mar# is !ot suppose& to e i! the 5ile a!&:or &oes!t apply tous. 4!& this from fol#s that i!sist that the ;i!g 3ames <ersio! is the official, i!fallile,u!a&ulterate& =or& of o& + a!& Mar# >?@>AB20 ma&e it i! there. ) thi!# theyre stuc# with it.

My poi!t i! this writi!g is to show the o"erwhelmi!g e"i&e!ce that the 'oly (pirit was arou!&5FO Pe!tecost, that the 'oly (pirit showe& up i! igger measure a"ailale to 4people 4T Pe!tecost a!& that 'e is a"ailale to us i! as great 8or greater9 a measure !ow as'e was to the 4postles. The 5aptism of the 'oly (pirit is a real thi!g, its !ot the same assal"atio! a!& its asolutely !ecessary to empower elie"ers to wal# i! all the full e!efits ofthe (pirit. 85ut it &oes!t ha"e to loo# the way the Charismatic wi!g has taught it either.9

(o that you #!ow, ) &o!t come at this as a holy rolli!g Pe!tecostal. )m !ot part of a!y

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$Charismatic mo"eme!t% B )m 6ust see#i!g Truth. ) was or! a!& re& the so! of a (outher!5aptist mi!ister a!& missio!ary. )m a stuor! Missouri $(how Me% mule, a usi!essma! a!&a pragmatist. ) wa!t to #!ow E4CT/ how thi!gs wor# a!& why a!& ) &o!t wa!t to ta#ea!yo&y elses wor& for it. )m !ot impresse& with cheap tal#, ) wa!t to see 4CT)O-. =hatwor#s i! the real worl& ca! sometimes e </ &iffere!t tha! the way people (4/ itssuppose& to wor#. ) &o!t go i! for e1perie!ces or ma!ifestatio!s or emotio!al &isplays +

u!less its resulti!g i! ra&ically tra!sforme& li"es that loo# more li#e 3esus.

This is !ot a scholarly wor# i! the se!se that )m goi!g to go a!& rea& the thoughts of &oe!sof me! a!& sy!thesie it here with foot!otes a!& iliography. )m goi!g to &o my est to 6ustshow the (criptural e"i&e!ce a!& prese!t the case as it is i! 4)T/, !ot i! theory. (cie!cewas trappe& i! a theoretical phase for awhile whe! me! with ig rai!s woul& sit arou!& atale argui!g aout how ma!y teeth a horse must ha"e. 4ll #i!&s of argume!ts woul& epropose& ase& o! their u!&ersta!&i!g of its &iet a!& the mecha!ics of 6aws a!& whate"erother "ariales or pet assumptio!s they ha&. Oser"atio!al scie!ce was or! whe! somege!ius 6ust got up from the tale a!& we!t out a!& fou!& a horse a!& loo#e& i! its mouth )mthe #i!& of guy that has a "ery low tolera!ce for sitti!g arou!& a!& &eati!g whe! there is ahorse !eary.

The =or& says that they will #!ow us y the wor& of our testimo!y. ) &o!t ha"e a!ythi!g elsethat ) ca! sta!& ehi!& relialy e1cept the =or& of o& a!& what )"e see! perso!ally. /oumay !ot elie"e me, ) may !ot e ale to &ocume!t it, ut to me its reality a!& ) ca!t etal#e& &ow! + ecause ) we!t through it a!& saw it happe! with my ow! eyes. (o throughoutthis writi!g ) might 6ust mi1 i! a $'orse Teeth% reality chec# from my perso!al e1perie!ce herea!& there. )ll lea"e it to you to &eci&e if )m ma#i!g it up or !ot.

)f the 'oly (pirit &i& ig stuff 5FO Pe!tecost, why &o we thi!# that 'e is u!ale to &othose thi!gs 4FT the 5ile was complete&G )f it was 6ust a $&ispe!satio!% or for a limite&use to sprea& the ospel, why is it still happe!i!gG Ca! you come to the co!clusio! that ifpeople are ha"i!g &reams a!& "isio!s a!& ei!g heale& a!& the ospel is ei!g sprea&through u!#!ow! to!gues, that (ata! is &oi!g itG Ca! a house &i"i&e& sta!&G 'ow ca! thate 5ilicalG 4!& if it really )( the 'oly (pirit &oi!g it a!& were &e!yi!g it or attriuti!g it to(ata!, are!t we i! &a!ger of lasphemi!g the 'oly (piritG 4!& 3esus sai& that was 4/a&. 8Matt. >2@H>BH2I Mar# H@2JI u#e >2@>09 Di&!t 'eG The 5iles true, is!t itG )f so, youmight wa!t to e 4/ careful what you attriute to (ata! that might really e the 'oly(pirit /ou #!ow, 6ust i! case.

)f the 'oly (pirit is out there a!& 'e is waiti!g for us to fully appropriate all that 'e ma#esa"ailale to us to sprea& the ospel i! power, a!& were !ot &oi!g it + the! the loo& of allthose misse& opportu!ities is o! our hea&. )f we ha"e access to weapo!s a!& ammu!itio! forthis war o! e"il, ut we ha"e ee! co!"i!ce& that theyre !ot really there + who e!efitsmostG /eah, )m pretty sure the a& guys woul& 4/ li#e us to elie"e that the thi!gswhich throughout history ha"e most &ramatically sprea& the ospel are !o lo!ger a"ailaleto&ay. )! fact, )m pretty well co!"i!ce& that the &emo!s of hell are the o!es whisperi!g that&octri!e to people. 5ecause ) ca!t figure how 3esus is glorifie& y a &octri!e that says 'e&oes!t heal us or spea# to us or &o cool thi!gs through us a!ymore. 4!& if were operati!gwithout the full empowerme!t of the 'oly (pirit, the! were ru!!i!g o! our ow! steam. That






ca!t e goo&. 4!& it plays &irectly i!to the e!emys ha!&s.

This is !ot a si&e issue of little co!se*ue!ce )f my relatio!ship with 3esus ca! e &eeper, )wa!t it )f ) ca! hear o& etter, ) wa!t to )f ) ca! go from &e!yi!g Christ whe! co!fro!te& ya ar mai&, to preachi!g my first sermo! a!& H000 people get sa"e& a!& the religious lea&erseat me a!& ) still wo!t ac# &ow! a!& ) go home praisi!g o& + ) wa!t that 84cts @A0BA29

=hate"er o& &i& to tra!sform Peter from the sissy at the crucifi1io! to the roc#Bsoli& lio! atPe!tecost, if its a"ailale to&ay, ) wa!t it )! fact, if its a"ailale to&ay, the worl& &esperately!ee&s a! army of ra&ical, fire&Bup, fearless roc#Bsoli& lio!s right aout !ow.

This is !o small issue. =ere tal#i!g aout whether a T')D of the o&Bhea& cha!ge& or !ot)f the 'oly (pirit is o& a!& the 'oly (pirit ca! cha!ge, if 'e got !eutere& a!& replace&e!tirely with a oo#, the! maye we shoul& e co!cer!e& that e"erythi!g is i! a lot more flu1tha! we wa!t to elie"e. Maye theres a!other $&ispe!satio!% where the 5loo& of 3esus&oes!t wor# a!ymore either 8)! fact, some fol#s are of the opi!io! that after the $preBtrirapture% thats e1actly what happe!s Oh, which y the way, theres a goo& cha!ce we"eproaly alrea&y misse& a!& you all !ee& to say youre sorry for that little it of whac#e&theology. www.Fulfille&Prophecy.com 9

)f 'e promises us somethi!g, li#e that the power of the 'oly (pirit $is for you a!& yourchil&re! a!& all those far off a!& 4 those that the or& calls u!to 'im,% ut the! it &oes!tapply to us, how ca! we feel secure aout 4-/ of 'is promisesG 84cts 2@HJ9 (eems li#e aait a!& switch scam to me. Peter sai& that what they ha& 6ust gotte! was for e"eryo&y. 'esol& that ill of goo&s to H,000 people imme&iately. )t ma&e it i!to the 5ile. 5ut Peter &i&!treally mea! it li#e thatG 5ut o& e!&orse& it a!& put it i! the 5ileG Peter coul& ha"e surea"oi&e& a lot of co!fusio! o"er the last >J00 years y 6ust telli!g them that it was for thatge!eratio! a!& the! it woul& stop. =o!&er why he &i&!tG )t was the 'oly (pirit tal#i!gthrough him, rightG 4!& the 'oly (pirit ca!t lie, rightG (o is it for e"eryo&y that o& calls oris!t itG

4re you getti!g the importa!ce of thisG )f some of the ifts cease&, which o!esG )f some ofthe offices cease&, which o!esG =ho gets to &eci&e which we still ha"eG 4!& if o& &oes!tspea# to us a!ymore, why !otG Do we !ee& to hear 'im lessG Does 'e !ot wa!t to &irect allof our paths a!ymoreG 4re we !ot 'is sheep a!ymoreG Cause were suppose& to eheari!g 'is "oice. 83oh! >0@279 =hat aout 3oel 2 where it says 'ell pour out 'is (pirit o!

4 fleshG 'a"e we see! that fulfille&G Coul& it still e comi!gG =ill we e &ogmatically a!&&octri!ally rea&y to recei"e itG

=he! 'e sai& $"oice% &i& 'e really mea! the writi!gs of the 4postlesG Maye whe! 'e sai&$"oice% 'e mea!t $"oice.% )m thi!#i!g we ought to ta#e the 5ile at face "alue o! that. 'e put'is (pirit i! us so that 'e coul& write 'is law o! our hearts a!& we coul& hear 'is "oice. )ts!ot e!ough to #!ow the law i! ge!eral, the (pirit has to show us how it applies to each gi"e!situatio! we face.The 5ile says that the 5ile is !ot u!&ersta!&ale e1cept y the i!structio!of the 'oly (pirit. (o which is more importa!t the =or& or the (pirit. ) gotta go with the (pirithas to come first or the =or& is 6ust a history oo#. =ithout the 'oly (pirit of the or&u!loc#i!g it to us, we ca!t search the &eep thi!gs of o&.

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Was the Holy Spirit aroud i the Old Testamet?

O;, thats e!ough of that. ets get i!to what the =or& says.

They may !ot a&mit it, ut there seems to e this stream of thought that thi!#s the 'oly (pirit

showe& up at Pe!tecost for the first time a!& the! asically left whe! the 5ile wascomplete&. Or maye 'e &i&!t all the way lea"e, ut pretty much !ow 'es 6ust li#e a caffei!eooster for your co!scie!ce. 4!yo&y with a co!cor&a!ce ca! see otherwise, ut ) thi!# thee!emy has super!aturally li!&e& people. )ts li#e a cutBa!&Bpaste &emo! that ma#es themforget certai! passages are i! the =or& at all

(o, to cou!teract that, ) we!t through the whole 5ile a!& trie& to categorie all the rele"a!t"erses aout the 'oly (pirit. 'ere are all the people that the =or& specifically says recei"e&or were fille& with or were moti"ate& y or &i& somethi!g y the power of the 'oly (pirit.(urely there were M4-/ others, i! fact !o!e of the prophets coul& prophecy e1cept y the'oly (pirit, ut 6ust so we &o!t argue aout it, these are the "erses where the =OD OF

OD specifically says right there that the 'oly (pirit ha& somethi!g to &o with it. 8)m !otsayi!g this is asolutely comprehe!si"e, ut it shoul& e e!ough to ma#e the poi!t.9

)m goi!g to lea"e it to you to loo# them up yourself. )f you &o!t ha"e a 5ile ha!&y, trywww.5ileateway.com or www.5lueetter5ile.com . 4 ha!&y free computer tool ) really li#eis www.5ileB1plorer.com .

Old Testamet people who were filled with the Holy Spirit;● 3oseph 8e!esis A>@HK9● 5ealeel a!& 4holia 81o&us H>@H, 1o&us H@H>9● Moses 8)saiah ?H@>A9●

(e"e!ty el&ers of Moses 8-umers >>@>79● 5alaam 8-umers 2A@29● 3oshua 8-umers 27@>K, Deutero!omy HA@J9● Oth!iel 83u&ges H@>09● i&eo! 83u&ges ?@HA9● 3ephthah 83u&ges >>@2J9● (amso! 83u&ges >H@2, >A@?, >A@>J, >@>A9● (aul 8> (amuel >0@?B>0, >>@?, >J@2H9● Da"i& 8> (amuel >?@>H, 2 (amuel 2H@2, 9● (auls messe!gers 8> (amuel >J@209● 4ariah 82 Chro!icles >@>9

● 3ahaiel 82 Chro!icles 20@>A9● Lechariah 82 Chro!icles 2A@209● The prophets i! ge!eral 8-ehemiah J@H0I Lechariah 7@>2I 2 Peter >@2>9● )saiah 8)saiah AK@>?I )saiah J@2>I 4cts 2K@2B279● e#iel 8e#iel 2@2I H@2AI >>@9● Da!iel 8Da!iel A@J, >KI @>>B>AI ?@H9● Micah 8Micah H@K9

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O#, so whe! &i& the 'oly (pirit first show upG e!esis >@2. Thats &ar! !ear as close to theegi!!i!g as you ca! get 4!& so was the (pirit 6ust sitti!g o! mothalls waiti!g forPe!tecostG =hat was 'e &oi!g etwee! e!esis >@2 a!& Matthew >@>G

Thi-s the Holy Spirit did i the Old Testamet;● Mo"e& o! the face of the waters 8e!esis >@29● Ma&e people spea# i! to!gues ecstatically a!&:or prophecy 8-umers >>@2B2JI >

(amuel >0@>0I > (amuel >J@20I > (amuel >J@2H9● Complete perso!al tra!sformatio! of (aul 8> (amuel >0@?B>09● a"e Da"i& the complete pla!s for the Temple 8> Chro!icles 2K@>29● Ma&e people a!& #ept them ali"e 83o 27@H, HH@A, Psalms >0A@H09● Om!iprese!ce 8Psalms >HJ@79● =rote the Ol& Testame!t 8)saiah HA@>?9● ;ills the flowers a!& the grass 8)saiah A0@79● Om!ipote!ce 8)saiah A0@>H9● Prophesie& through )saiah aout 3esus ei!g Fille& 8)saiah A2@>I ?>@>I ?H@>A9● Promise& to pour out the (pirit o! the Church 8)saiah AA@H, J@2>9● Defe!&e& agai!st e!emies 8)saiah J@>JI Lechariah A@?9● Pic#e& people up a!& tra!sporte& them elsewhere 8) ;i!gs >K@>2I 2 ;i!gs 2@>?I

e#iel H@>2, >AI K@HI >>@>I >>@2AI H7@>I AH@9● Tal#e& to people 8e#iel H@2AI >>@9● a"e &reams a!& "isio!s 8e#iel K@HI >>@>I >>@2A9● Tra!sforme& a!& re!ewe& peoples hearts 8e#iel >>@>JI H?@2?9● 'elp people #eep 'is comma!&me!ts 8e#iel H?@279● Promise to put 'is (pirit i! people 8e#iel >>@>JI H?@2?B27I H7@>AI HJ@2JI 3oel 2@2J9● Poure& out repe!ta!ce a!& mour!i!g 8Lechariah >2@>09● (po#e through Da"i& aout 3esus 8Psalm 22I Psalms >>0@>I Mar# >2@H?9● (po#e through Da"i& aout 3u&as )scariot 8Psalm A>@JI Psalm @>2B>I 4cts >@>?9● (po#e to the prophets aout the future sufferi!gs of 3esus Christ 8> Peter >@>>9● (po#e through )saiah aout the future har&!ess of the peoples hearts a!& their

i!aility to hear the truth 8)saiah ?@JB>0I 4cts 2K@2B279

4gai!, thats 6ust a few where the "erse specifically gi"es the cre&it to the (pirit of the or& orthe 'oly host or the 'oly (pirit. )t shoul& e o"ious that 'e was </ usy throughout thehistory of )srael lea&i!g up to the -ew Testame!t. (urely there are millio!s of u!!ame&people of all stripes that hear& from the (pirit a!& were moti"ate& y 'im. That list ao"e&oes!t e"e! i!clu&e -oah a!& !och a!& lisha a!& i&eo! a!& Deorah a!& -atha! a!&(amuel a!& Micaiah a!& (olomo! a!& 3osiah a!& -ehemiah a!& 3o a!& lihu a!& so ma!yothers -o!e of those people coul& ha"e &o!e what they &i& without the 'oly (pirit spea#i!ga!& gui&i!g a!& &irecti!g a!& filli!g.

ememer, were tal#i!g aout A,000 or so years here The 'oly (pirit &i& a lot of stuff, ut itseems pretty sprea& out ecause the !arrati"e of the Ol& Testame!t co"ers such a gia!tspa! of time. 5ut it is the 5reath of the (pirit that mo"es o! the waters a!& puts life i!to ma!.)t is the (pirit of o& that is om!iprese!t a!& aware of all that happe!s a!& spea#s to me! as&irecte& y the or&.

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3ust to estalish the pre&etermi!e& patter! of 3esus loo&li!e re*uire& $twea#i!g% i!&i"i&ualli"es i! ways we ca!t e"e! imagi!e =hat was re*uire& to get aha a!& uth a!&5athshea i! the li!eage of the ChristG 'ow much &i& the (pirit ha"e to whisper to people, ora&6ust circumsta!ces, to ma#e it all li!e up 6ust rightG Fourtee! ge!eratio!s from 4raham toDa"i&, fourtee! from Da"i& to the 5aylo!ia! capti"ity, fourtee! ge!eratio!s from the capti"ityto the Christ. 8Matthew >@>B>79 The e1act !umer of years that Da!iel pre&icte&. 8Da!. J@29

=hat if someo&y ha& ee! late for their first &ateG =hat if 3osephs great, great gra!&fatherleaer ha& &ie& you!g i! attle + or from a a& col&G /eah, the 'oly (pirit was really usy.

=ere there a!y Ol& Testame!t war!i!gs aout the 'oly (piritG 4!ythi!g we !ee& to ecareful aoutG Oh yeah

Old Testamet wari-s a%out the Holy Spirit;● 5etter liste! to the 'oly (pirit a!& !o other 8)saiah H0@>9● U!til the 'oly (pirit is poure& out there will e &esolatio! 8)saiah H2@>9● Do!t reel agai!st 'im or 'ell e your e!emy 8)saiah ?H@>09

'mmm. $Do!t reel agai!st 'im.% That woul& e li#e if we &e!ie& 'is prese!ce or authority

or sai& that 'e &i&!t really tal# to us a!ymore, rightG =oul& that *ualifyG

=hat if we sai& that all the stuff that 'e might e &oi!g was actually sata! &oi!g itG Do youthi!# that woul& grie"e 'imG ) mea!, what if you wor#e& har& a!& oe&ie!tly a!& sacrificiallya!& amai!gly + a!& the! ha& someo!e attriute all of your laors to your e!emy, or to li!&cha!ceG That woul& proaly hurt your feeli!gs, woul&!t itG /ou woul&!t wa!t to &o that toa thir& of the o&hea&, woul& youG ) mea!, it 6ust seems impolite, at the "ery least.

/ou #!ow that o& see#s for us to ha"e a ser"a!ts heart. That is 'is eco!omy. 'e wa!ts usto hear 'im a!& oey without thought of recei"i!g. 4!& o& !e"er tells us to &o somethi!gthat 'e has!t alrea&y mo&ele& for us. 'e wo!t as# us to go where 'e has!t go!e. (o what

is o&s ser"a!t heartG The 'oly (pirit is. The 'oly (pirit is the selfBless, co!sta!tly wor#i!g,!e"er selfBsee#i!g, always gi"i!g, always oeyi!g, ser"a!t heart of o&. =e are -OT <to worship the 'oly (pirit 'e &oes -OT see# worship or glory. 4ll worship a!& glory a!&ho!or is &ue to the Father. 8Phillipia!s 2@>>, A@209 "e! 3esus #!ew that the ultimate&irectio! of all of our worship a!& ho!or is to the Father. 'e came to glorify the Father, a!&o!ly sai& what 'e hear& the Father tell 'im to say. /ou DO -OT worship the 'oly (pirit.

)f the 'oly (pirit is o&s ser"a!t heart, tirelessly a!& selflessly wor#i!g away to fulfill theFathers pla! for us + pla!s for goo& a!& !ot for e"il, to gi"e us a future a!& a hope + the!maye we shoul& stop spitti!g o! 'im.

'es !ot helpless. The =or& says that if you reel, 'ell e your e!emy. ) wo!&er what thatwoul& loo# li#eG Do you thi!# that maye 'e woul& tur! you o"er to your ow! reproate mi!&or put a stro!g &elusio! o! you or plug up your ears so you coul&!t hear TruthG Maye 'e&tur! you o"er to sata! to teach you !ot to laspheme. Ouch ) &o!t thi!# ) wa!t to ta#e thecha!ce. ) thi!# )ll 6ust e a frie!& of o& a!& try to stay o! the (pirits goo& si&e. Do!t messwith o&. 'e &oes!t li#e people ta#i!g potshots at 'is selfless, oe&ie!t ser"a!ts.

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Was the Holy Spirit aroud i theNew Testamet %efore etecost?

-ow this is really fu! 'ere we ha"e all #i!&s of !eat stuffhappe!i!g. )t all 6ust uil&s o! what happe!e& efore. 4ll that cool

stuff i! the Ol& Testame!t is goi!g to get repeate&, ut it getscompresse& &ow! !ow i!to a </ short wi!&ow of time. )f yousee it as a progressio!, a! i!creasi!g spiral, a!& !ot as a u!i*ue&ispe!satio!, the! there is e"ery reaso! to elie"e that it shoul&co!ti!ue a!& grow + e"e! e1po!e!tially. i#e a spiral, what 'e &i&efore, 'es &oi!g agai!, o!ly more a!& faster

'ere is a list of the people 8that the 5ile me!tio!s specifically9 that recei"e& the 'oly (pirit i!some measure.

New Testamet people who recei)ed the Holy Spirit :4FO=4 etecost;● 3oh! the 5aptist + from co!ceptio! 8u#e >@>9

● lisaeth 8u#e >@A>9● Lacharias 8u#e >@?79● Mary 8Matthew >@>K, 20I u#e >@H9● (imeo! 8u#e 2@29● 3esus 8)saiah >>@2I Matt. H@>?I Matt. >2@>KI u#e A@>, >A, >KI 4cts 2@HHI 4cts >0@HK9● The Disciples 83oh! 20@229

4!& those are 6ust the &irect refere!ces. )t &oes!t i!clu&e the wise me! that must ha"e ha&wis&om from o&. )t &oes!t i!clu&e 4!!a or the se"e!ty a!& the twel"e whe! they were se!tout. 4!& all those people ei!g co!"icte& y the preachi!g of 3oh! the 5aptist a!& repe!ti!gha& to ha"e ee! ha"i!g the 'oly (pirit spea# to their hearts. o& pours out the ift of

epe!ta!ce y the 'oly (pirit. =ithout that gift from o&, !o o!e ca! really tur! from theirow! si!ful !ature. (o there ha& to ha"e ee! OT( of stuff the (pirit was &oi!g all throughthis time perio&.

Thi-s the Holy Spirit did i the New Testamet :4FO=4 etecost;● e"eale& to (imeo! that he woul& see the Messiah 8u#e 2@2?9● ot Mary preg!a!t 8Matt. >@>K, 20I u#e >@H9● (ettle& o! 3esus li#e a &o"e i! "iew of e"eryo!e 8Matt. H@>?, Mar# >@>0, u#e H@22I

3oh! >@H2BHH9● e& 3esus out i!to the &esert 8Matt. A@>I Mar# >@>2I u#e A@>9● (pea#s o! ehalf of o& through the Disciples 8Matt. >0@209● Cast out &emo!s 8Matt. >2@2K9

● Directe& people to go places 8u#e 2@27I 3oh! H@K9● Directe& the &isciples after 3esus asce!sio! 84cts >@29

(o, ca! there e a!y &out that the (pirit was arou!& a!& #ic#i!g efore Pe!tecostG There isalso the issue of 3esus selecti!g a!& se!&i!g se"e!ty a!& the! the twel"e &isciples out toheal a!& cast out &emo!s a!& preach the ospel. 'e ga"e them authority, a!& we &o!t#!ow y what process 'e &i& it, y layi!g o! of ha!&s or y 6ust spea#i!g it + ut you ca!t

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&ri"e out &emo!s u!&er your ow! power, it has to e the 'oly (pirit operati!g through you.(o the &isciples were sa"e& a!& aptie& a!& se!t out to &o miracles well efore Pe!tecosta!& you ca!t co!"i!ce me that you ca! &o that without the 'oly (pirit i! you

/ou ca!t sustai! the argume!t that they &i&!t ha"e the 'oly (pirit at all u!til Pe!tecost. Foro!e thi!g i! 3oh! 20@22, 3esus after 'is resurrectio! reathes o! them a!& says, $ecei"ethe 'oly (pirit.% )f that was purely symolic or was prophetic of the time whe! they were goi!g

to recei"e the (pirit ma!y &ays later, the! why &i&!t 'e 6ust say thatG )! fact, 'e ha& alrea&ysai& that, so that woul& ma#e this uselessly re&u!&a!t.

The simplest a!& most literal e1pla!atio! is usually the est. They !ee&e& some peace a!&patie!ce a!& wis&om to get through the &ays followi!g 'is asce!sio! u!til the full!ess of theempoweri!g of the 'oly (pirit came at Pe!tecost. ) thi!# 'e was gi"i!g them a ooster of 6uste!ough to get them through u!til the!. Certai!ly i! the upper room i! 4cts > Peter is *uoti!gscripture a!& ei!g a goo& lea&er a!& ma#i!g a lot more se!se tha! he use& to whe! therooster was crowi!g

There are some "erses that people will use to gi"e the impressio! that the 'oly (pirit &i&!tshow up u!til Pe!tecost.

>oh 16;0$ @>9ABut the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, heshall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I havesaid unto you.

>oh 1;0$ @>9ABut when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even theSpirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me

>oh 1$;1# @>9AHowbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth for he shall

not spea! of himself" but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he spea! and he willshew you things to come.

)ohn +- /0)125ut this spa#e he of the (pirit, which they that elie"e o! him shoul& recei"e@ for the'oly host was !ot yet givenI ecause that 3esus was !ot yet glorifie&.

People try to say that this mea!s that the 'oly (pirit was se!t for the first time at Pe!tecosta!& that the Disciples &i&!t recei"e 4-/ of the 'oly (pirit u!til the!. 5ut that 6ust ca!t e.Clearly the 'oly (pirit was prese!t a!& acti"e si!ce e!esis >@2. )t must e a! issue of*ua!tity or a"ailaility to all people, !ot 6ust a! o!:off switch. Clearly somethi!g M43Ohappe!e& at Pe!tecost, ut its a! error to elie"e that it was the first time the 'oly (pirit

ma&e a! appeara!ce o! the sce!e. (omethi!g &efi!itely happe!e& whe! 3esus asce!&e&.(omehow it free& up 'oly (pirit resources that were!t a"ailale to Ma! pre"iously.

)ts clear that 3esus was full of the 'oly (pirit. ) wo!&er how ig 'is cup wasG Maye 'e ha&to lea"e to free up e!ough 'oly (pirit so the rest of us coul& get someG Maye whe! 'easce!&e& to the Father a!& was glorifie& 'e &i&!t !ee& it a!ymore, so the Father se!t ac#

4 the 'oly (pirit that was filli!g 3esus cup + a!& it was e!ough to fill e"eryo&y for all time






So what happeed at etecost?

New Testamet people who recei)ed the Holy Spirit 2T etecost● The >20 gathere& i! the upper room 84cts >@>, 2@A9

(o was that itG They got sa"e& at Pe!tecost a!& recei"e& the 'oly (piritG The 5aptism of the

'oly (pirit is the same as sal"atio!G 'ow ca! that eG They were with 3esus, theyac#!owle&ge& 'im as or& with their ow! mouths a lo!g time efore this 8Matt. >?@>?9.Presumaly someo&y ha& aptie& them i! water pre"iously 8though were !ot sure whom9.They &i&!t get the 'oly (pirit whe! they got sa"e&G 5ut they cast out &emo!s a!& heale& thesic#G

Do you see the prolemG )f the promise& $5aptism of the 'oly (pirit% is the same as the 'oly(pirit that we recei"e at sal"atio!, the! the 4postles, who are the fou!&atio! upo! which theChurch is uilt a!& the mo&el we are to follow, &i&!t get sa"e& u!til the upper room. 4!&how &o you accou!t for people that got sa"e&, ut &i&!t get the 5aptism of the 'oly (piritu!til someo&y lai& ha!&s o! themG 84cts K@>B209 )s there a way that you ca! get sa"e&,

ut !ot recei"e 4-/ of the 'oly (piritG That woul& e a&. =e really !ee& to a!swer thato!e Theres !o way to wal# a Christia! wal# without the 'oly (pirit. (o if somethi!g ca!happe! where we say a!& pray all the right stuff a!& really mea! it, ut &o!t get the 'oly(pirit, it woul& sure e goo& to #!ow so that we ca! a"oi& that.

5ut if the 5aptism of the 'oly (pirit is a! empoweri!g e"e!t a!& !ot a re&empti"e e"e!t, the!they ca! e two separate thi!gs a!& all of this starts to ma#e more se!se. )! fact, 3esus tol&them to go i!to all the worl& a!& sprea& the ospel. They ha& ee! with 'im, they ha& e"e!heale& people a!& cast out &emo!s a!& preache& the ospel + ut that &i&!t #eep Peterfrom &e!yi!g 'im three times a!& all the other 4postles from scatteri!g li#e sheep whe! theshepher& was struc#. 5ut 3esus tol& them specifically 4FT gi"i!g them the reat

Commissio! to -OT go a!ywhere u!til the fire fell o! them. 'a& they !ot see! 3esusG =erethey !ot re&eeme&G =here they !ot ale to e wit!essesG =hy waitG

5ecause they lac#e& the fire that woul& tra!sform them a!& they !ee&e& to wait a!& pray forit + i! harmo!y, all together. 4!& it was!t a o!eBtime thi!g, either

"staces of %ei- =4F"BB4' with the Holy Spirit 2FT4= etecost;● The &isciples agai!, i!clu&i!g Peter a!& 3oh! 84cts A@H>9● The &isciples a!& all with them agai! 84cts >H@29

/ou see, its !ot a fi1e& *ua!tity. )ts !ot a! O!:Off switch li#e you either ha"e some 'oly

(pirit or you &o!t. They ha& i!creasi!g *ua!tity. They got fille& more tha! o!ce. The =or&says to $e 5)- fille&.% 8ph. @>K9 That mea!s i! a co!sta!t state of pouri!g out o! othersa!& getti!g refille& yourself. 4!& some must ha"e ha& igger capacities for the 'oly (pirittha! others. )f you wa!t your ('4DO= heali!g people, you etter ha"e a cup li#e a! oilta!#er a!& #eep it full all the time The ha!&#erchiefs that touche& Pauls o&y were heali!gpeople Thats a 5) cup of miracleBwor#i!g, 'oly (pirit power there -ot all of them ha& thatig a capacity. ) wo!&er whyG Coul& we get a cup that igG 'as that happe!e& si!ceG






(o was it 6ust that o!e time at Pe!tecost that a!yo&y got that #i!& of empoweri!gG

Other people recei)i- the Holy Spirit 2FT4= etecost;● The se"e! &eaco!s were either fille& at Pe!tecost or soo! after 84cts ?@HB9● 5ar!aas was either fille& at Pe!tecost or soo! after 84cts >>@2A9● The (amarita! elie"ers who were sa"e&, ut ha&!t recei"e& the (pirit yet 84cts K@>B

209● Paul whe! 4!a!ias lai& ha!&s o! him 84cts J@>7I 4cts >H@J9● e!tiles i! the house of Cor!elius 84cts >0@AABA7, >>@>I >@K9● The elie"ers i! phesus whe! Paul lai& ha!&s o! them 84cts >J@2B?9

-ot to me!tio! the e"i&e!ce of people i! City Churches elsewhere 8li#e Cori!th a!& ome9that later !ee&e& i!structio! o! the ifts, which must mea! they are operati!g there, whichmust mea! they got the 'oly (pirit + a!& they coul&!t ha"e all ee! i! the upper room

Thi-s the Holy Spirit did 2FT4= etecost;● Tol& Peter that 4!a!ias a!& (aphira ha& lie& 84cts 9● Tal#e& to Philip a!& se!t him to teach the eu!uch 84cts K@2J9

● Pic#e& up people a!& tra!sporte& them elsewhere 84cts K@HJ9● Comforte& the Churches 84cts J@H>9● a"e Peter "isio!s a!& tal#e& to him 84cts >0@>JI >>@>29● Tol& aout a fami!e that was comi!g 84cts >>@2K9● Tol& other people to tell Paul thi!gs 84cts 2>@A9● Mighty sig!s a!& wo!&ers 8oma!s >@>JI > Cori!thia!s 2@AI al. H@9● e"eale& &eep mysteries of o& to me! 8> Cori!thia!s 2@>0B>AI ph. >@>7I ph. H@9● Dwelt withi! people 8> Cori!thia!s H@>?I alatia!s A@?9● a"e spiritual gifts to </ perso! 8> Cori!thia!s >29● 3oi!s us all i! Christs 5o&y 8> Cori!thia!s >2@>HI 2 Cor. A@>HI ph. 2@>KI ph. A@A9● Prays through our mouths &irectly to o& 8> Cori!thia!s >A@2I alatia!s A@?I

phesia!s ?@>K, 3u&e >@20B2>9● (i!gs through us 8) Cori!thia!s >A@>9● i"es lierty 82 Cori!thia!s H@>79● Cha!ges us i!to the image of our or& 82 Cori!thia!s H@>K9● Ma#es us a temple for o& 8phesia!s 2@229● stalishe& church &octri!e 84cts >@2K9● (tre!gthe!s us i! our i!!er ma! 8phesia!s H@>?9● (po#e through Peter to the el&ers of )srael 84cts A@K9● a"e (tephe! a "isio! a!& ga"e stre!gth to e!&ure martyr&om 84cts 7@9● estore& Pauls "isio! 84cts J@>79● Tol& Paul specifically aout the last &ays 8) Timothy A@>9● 'elps purify our souls a!& lo"e the rethre! 8> Peter >@229● a"e 3oh! "isio!s a!& i!terpretatio!s a!& spo#e to him 8e"elatio! >@>0, A@2, >A@>H9● (e!t messages to the churches 8e"elatio! 2@7, >>, >7, 2JI H@?, >H, 229● =ill o!e &ay raise the two =it!esses from the &ea& 8e"elatio! >>@>>9● Calls out with the 5ri&e to all them that are thirsty 8e"elatio! 22@>79● (pecifically spo#e to the el&ers i! 4!tioch to se!& out Paul a!& 5ar!aas 84cts >H@2BA9● (pecifically fori& Paul from preachi!g i! 4sia B at that mome!t 84cts >?@?9






● =oul&!t allow Paul to go to 5ythi!ia 84cts >?@>79● Tol& Paul to e1pect persecutio! a!& o!&age 84cts 20@22B29● Ma&e people spea# i! to!gues a!&:or prophecy 84cts 2@AI 4cts >0@A?I 4cts >J@?9● 4ssig!s those who are to e ser"a!ts a!& shepher&s to the Church 84cts 20@2K9● =ar!e& Paul through the Tyrea! &isciples !ot to go to 3erusalem 84cts 2>@A9● (po#e through 4gaus war!i!g Paul !ot to go to 3erusalem 84cts 2>@>>9

This list ao"e i!clu&es all of the !i!e $ma!ifestatio! gifts% me!tio!e& i! > Cori!thia!s >2@>B>> + a!& the! some.

1 Cor 10;6811 @>9A4 #ow there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 $nd there are differences ofadministrations, but the same %ord. 6 $nd there are diversities of operations, but it isthe same God which wor!eth all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given toevery man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom" toanother the word of !nowledge by the same Spirit" 9 &o another faith by the sameSpirit" to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit" 10 &o another the wor!ing ofmiracles" to another prophecy" to another discerning of spirits" to another divers !inds

of tongues" to another the interpretation of tongues 11 But all these wor!eth that oneand the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

3ust to clarify, the !i!e $ma!ifestatio!% gifts liste& here are@

Word of Wisdom/ Word of @owled-e/ Faith/ Heali-/ Miracles/ rophecy/'isceri- of Spirits/ To-ues/ ad "terpretatio of To-ues

)f those thi!gs cease& whe! the 5ile was complete& 8or whe! the last 4postle &ie&9, whicho!es cease&G FaithG =e &o!t ha"e faith a!ymoreG Or is this some special faithG i#e the#i!& of faith that woul& let you e!&ure torture a!& martyr&om a!& ei!g ur!e& or torture&without re!ou!ci!g your faithG The #i!& of superBfrea#y, o"er the top, o&Bi!spire& faith that

you 6ust #!ow that you #!ow that you #!ow that o& is i! co!trol a!& e"erythi!g is goi!g to eO;. 4!& why woul& that ha"e e!&e&G =e &o!t !ee& that a!ymoreG

(o if ) ca! fi!& a! i!sta!ce, 4-/ i!sta!ce of someo!e 4FT the last 4postle e1hiiti!g this#i!& of frea#ish ift of Faith, woul&!t that pro"e that it &i&!t e!&G Thats a! easy o!e.M))O-( ha"e ee! martyre& a!& e!&ure& &e"astati!gly pai!ful torture a!& horrilecircumsta!ces without &e!yi!g their faith. ea& $Fo1es 5oo# of Martyrs% a!& tell me thatFaith li#e that has e!&e& ea& aout ichar& =urmra!& or 5rother /u! i! Chi!a a!& tellme that the ift of Faith has e!&e& Or go watch this http@::www.gfa.org:6oseph

=hat aout =or& of =is&omG Thats !ot 6ust sayi!g somethi!g wise, thats a pure o&ly

=is&om that is spo#e! for the e&ificatio! of the 5o&y at the right mome!t so as to uil& upa!& ma#e complete the people of o&. i#e whe! (olomo! sai& to cut the ay i! half + thatwas (O pure a!& clea! a!& right to the "ery heart of the matter that it ha& to e o&Breathe&. 8) ;i!gs H@29 That was a =or& of =is&om. (o we &o!t ha"e that a!ymoreG 4!&we &o!t !ee& it whyG ) thi!# we ha"e a &esperate shortage of =is&om i! the $church% 'owcoul& o& e the o!e e!efiti!g the most y elimi!ati!g that o!eG (urely sata! is mostglorifie& whe! we lac# o&ly =is&om. The =or& says that if we see# =is&om, the or& will

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gi"e lierally a!& without reproach. 83ames >@9 "e! if we ause& it last time, 'ell gi"e usmore (o how coul& it e &ea&G )m 6ust pretty sure that a &emo! whispere& this theology tosomeo&y ecause were to test the spirits a!& ta#e capti"e e"ery thought a!& ri!g it i!tooe&ie!ce with Christ + a!& ) ca!t figure a!y way that 3esus woul& say somethi!g li#e thatsuper!atural, o&Bgi"e! =is&om a!& Faith are &ea& a!& u!a"ailale to us a!ymore. Thatsure sou!&s li#e sata! to me.

)f the o!ly true =is&om that is a"ailale to us to&ay is i! the =or& of o&, the! why &o!t allthose megaBchurch pastors stop writi!g oo#sG )f whate"er is comi!g out of them is!t reallya spiritual gift, its 6ust ma!Bma&e wis&om a!& the o!ly True =is&om is i! the =or&, the! ha!&me a 5ile a!& shut up.

=hat aout Discer!me!t of (piritsG Thats the aility to see i!to the spiritual realms a!&accurately tell the goo& guys from the a& guys. To see what is happe!i!g i! the $eal% worl&a!& #!ow how to a&&ress it. /es, it mea!s that you see &emo!s + ut it also mea!s that yousee a!gels. O;, o& &oes!t wa!t us to ha"e this a!ymore whyG Theres !ot a war etwee!goo& a!& e"il still goi!g o!G =e &o!t !ee& to accurately target a!& elimi!ate the e!emyGOur attle is !ot agai!st flesh a!& loo&, ut powers a!& pri!cipalities a!& wic#e&!ess i! highplaces + ut we &o!t !ee& to see them or #!ow what theyre up toG 8phesia!s ?@>29

'mmm. =ho e!efits most y a theology that says &emo!s are !ot real a!& we ca!t seethem a!& the weapo!s of spiritual warfare that were e!truste& to us are!t goo& a!ymoreG=ho e!efits most y a theology that says that if you tal# aout sata! or &emo!s the! youreri!gi!g them glory a!& &e!yi!g the power of o&G 4!& how come that &i&!t apply to 3esusG'e tal#e& aout them all the time )! the war room i! the Pe!tago!, theyre !e"er goi!g total# aout Osama 5i! a&i! or some other e!emy for fear of acci&e!tally worshippi!g themGThis is a =4 ) wa!t to #!ow where they sleep, what they eat, how they act, how theyattac# a!& most importa!tly, how to crush them i!to mush =ho e!efits most from atheology that says theyre !ot really there or were !ot to tal# aout themG ) gotta thi!# its thea& guys. 4re you getti!g thisG )m 6ust pretty sure that a &emo! ma&e up this stupi&theology ecause it DO( -OT glorify o& i! a!y way for 'im to &eclare a war a!& the! forus to &e!y we ha"e weapo!s or i!tellige!ce gatheri!g systems or ra&ios to hea&*uarters

=hat aout To!gues a!& )!terpretatio! of To!guesG Together they are prophecy a!& Paulsays were to see# prophecy. 8) Cori!thia!s >A@>9 4cts 2@HKBHJ sai& it was a gift for allge!eratio!s. This e!&e& whyG =e &o!t !ee& to #!ow the la!guages of other peoples toe"a!gelie a!ymoreG =e ha"e o"er H,000 la!guage groups o! this pla!et with !ot a si!glewor& of the 5ile i! their la!guage a!& !o sig! o! the horio! that were goi!g to reach thema!ytime soo!. 5ut we &o!t !ee& super!atural li!guistic s#ills a!ymoreG

(o if that e!&e&, ut ) ca! show you e1amples of people who super!aturally were gi"e! otherla!guages of Ma!, what &oes that mea!G -e"er mi!& argui!g aout the stic#ier issue ofwhether To!gues 8glossolalia9 are of me! a!&:or of a!gels, if we ca! show e"i&e!ce of a ma!super!aturally getti!g a li!guistic pac#age from o& to e use& to spea# to a group aout3esus, that woul& *ualify. 4!& if it happe!e& 4FT the last 4postle &ie& a!&:or the 5ilewas complete&, the! the Cessatio!ists are all wet. Do you see how har& this argume!t is tosustai!G )f we ca! fi!& e"e! O- i!sta!ce of 4-/ of these gifts still ei!g i! operatio!, the!






they D)D -OT e!& a!& theyre still a"ailale to us to&ay. 4!& u!less o& is a respecter ofperso!s, the! theyre a"ailale to us to&ay i! as ig a *ua!tity as they e"er were to a!yo!e.3esus 'imself sai& we woul& &o greater thi!gs tha! 'e &i& 83oh! >A@>29

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) happe! to e perso!ally ac*uai!te& with o!e la&y i! (outh 4frica whom the or& calle& topreach + i! !glish + ut she &i&!t spea# !glish. (o she praye& a!& the or& ga"e her!glish. /oure welcome to email her aout it a!& see if you thi!# shes lyi!g. 'er !ame isette "a! &er Merwe a!& you ca! reach her through www.Mercyate.com.

)m also aware through a!other frie!& that ru!s a small i!ter!atio!al mi!istry of a &earfrie!&, a!& mi!istry part!er of his from Camo&ia who was also miraculously gi"e! !glishwhe! they praye& + soo! after the 5ataa! Death March + so that someo!e coul& go to theU.(. massy a!& petitio! for asylum for a group of !ew Christia!s.

)"e spo#e! with =ycliffe 5ile Tra!slators who &o!t thi!# it stra!ge at all a!& ha"e ma!ystories of tra!slators &eep i! the 6u!gle as#i!g the or& to help with a particularly har&la!guage a!& the! getti!g that to!gue for prayer a!& for messages to the church. They may!ot spea# it "ery well all the time, ut the "illagers say that whe! they pray, its perfect.

) #!ow people that ha"e gi"e! messages to other people i! perfect 3apa!ese, ussia! a!&other la!guages they &i&!t #!ow. Or &i&!t e"e! #!ow that they were prayi!g lou& e!oughfor a!yo!e to hear them, ut it was the ospel ei!g preache& to someo!e !e1t to them o!the ele"ator or somethi!g

=he! to!gues showe& up o! 3a!uary >, >J0> at =illiam Parhams 5ile school i! Tope#a,;a!sas, the stu&e!ts there were spea#i!g la!guages of Ma! pre"iously u!#!ow! to them +i!clu&i!g Chi!ese. )t was &ocume!te& a!& "erifie& y !ewspaper reporters. The same atthe 4usa (treet re"i"al a few years later. oo# it up. ea& the ol& !ewspapers.

et out of your o1 a!& go i!"estigate without your li!&ers o!. 83ust i! case )m right.9

'ow aout theseG

● >0 4D + 3usti! Martyr wrote $For the prophetical gifts remai! with us, e"e! to thisprese!t time.% 8Dialogue with Trypho, Chapter K29, a!& $-ow, it is possile to seeamo!gst us wome! a!& me! who possess gifts of the (pirit of o&I% 8ii&, Chapter KK.9

● >7 4D B )re!aeus i! his treatise 4gai!st 'eresies spea#s of those who through the(pirit spea# all #i!&s of la!guages. 84gai!st 'eresies, 5oo# 2 Chapter A9

● circa 2H0 4D B -o"atia! sai&, $This is 'e who places prophets i! the Church, i!structsteachers, directs tongues, gi"es powers a!& heali!gs, &oes wo!&erful wor#s, ofte!

&iscrimi!atio! of spirits, affor&s powers of go"er!me!t, suggests cou!sels, a!& or&ersa!& arra!ges whate"er other gifts there are of charismataI a!& thus ma#e the or&NsChurch e"erywhere, a!& i! all, perfecte& a!& complete&.% 8Treatise Co!cer!i!g theTri!ity, Chapter 2J.9

● circa HA0 4D + 'ilary of Poitiers wrote, $For o& hath set same i! the Church, firstapostlesseco!&ly prophetsthir&ly teachers!e1t mighty wor#s, amo!g which arethe heali!g of &iseases a!& gifts of either spea!ing or interpreting divers !inds of


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tongues. Clearly these are the ChurchNs age!ts of mi!istry a!& wor# of whom the o&yof Christ co!sistsI a!& o& has or&ai!e& them.% 8O! the Tri!ity, <ol K Chap HH9

● circa HJ0 4D + 4ugusti!e of 'ippo, i! a! e1positio! o! Psalm H2, &iscusses aphe!ome!o! co!temporary to his time of those who si!g i! 6uilatio!, si!gi!g thepraises of o& !ot i! their ow! la!guage, ut i! a ma!!er that may !ot e co!fi!e& ythe limits of syllales 8O! Psalm H2, !arratio!es i! Psalmos, H2, ii, (ermo >@K9

)f you see# truth, you will fi!& that this gift is ali"e a!& well a!& i! practice + oth fore"a!gelism a!& for perso!al e&ificatio!. )f spea#i!g i! to!gues e&ifies the i!&i"i&ual, &o!tyou !ee& more e&ifyi!gG ) #!ow that ) !ee& all the e&ifyi!g that ) ca! get Do!t rely o! thetheoretical, &ogmatic argume!ts + li#e argui!g aout how ma!y teeth a horse has. o loo#arou!& a!& youll see that !early all of the growth i! the Church worl&wi&e is i! the$charismatic% segme!t. The mai!li!e &e!omi!atio!s are!t e"e! #eepi!g up with populatio!growth. /es, there are e1cesses a!& misuses a!& auses a!& cou!terfeits, ut that &oes!tmea! its !ot real + it 6ust mea!s this is a war a!& the e!emy is really goo& at mis&irectio!a!& propaga!&a a!& misi!formatio! a!& &emoraliatio! of our troops.

)f the 'oly (pirit ca! pray FO you T'OU' you, is!t it 6ust pri&eful to thi!# that you ca!

pray i! !glish etter tha! the thir& of the o&hea& that li"es i! you ca! pray for youG Do!tyou thi!# maye you ought to get out of 'is way a!& let 'im pray howe"er 'e wa!ts toG )tsreally 6ust that easy. )ts !ot a! o!:off switch. )ts a &ial. )f you ha"e the 'oly (pirit i! you, the!'es tryi!g to get out somehow. )t may e weepi!g or groa!i!g or si!gi!g or some la!guageyou &o!t #!ow. Maye 'ell pray through you i! !glish, ut it will e (O pretty a!& perfecta!& &ea&Bo! that you 6ust #!ow it was!t really you i! co!trol. 'es goi!g to fi!& a way to getout, ut the less you put 'im i! a o1, the etter. )f you"e got 3esus a!& you wa!t to pray i!to!gues, 6ust say youre sorry for telli!g 'im it was!t real, let 'im #!ow youre willi!g a!& as#'im to teach you to pray i! whate"er way 'e thi!#s woul& e the most effecti"e for 'is;i!g&om a!& ri!g 'im the most glory. )t may also help to ha"e someo!e pray with you.

)ts the same with all the gifts. )f they are still a"ailale, the! we -D them This is a =4

)t always was (o, if the e!emy is a &ecei"er a!& liar a!& a cheat, a!& a!ythi!g he has is acheap cou!terfeit of what o& has + a!& the e!emy has spells a!& familiar spirits a!&me&iums a!& psychics a!& astral pro6ectio! a!& omies + the! where is OU stuffG =euse& to ha"e people getti!g heale& a!& seei!g a!gels a!& prophets a!& theoportatio! a!&e"e! people getti!g raise& from the &ea& (o, if this is a war, how come they got to #eep allof their cool toys a!& we lost oursG That &oes!t seem fair. =ho woul& e!efit most if gia!tchu!#s of our teams &eci&e& that the war was actually o"er, the e!emy was!t real a!&:or we&i&!t ha"e weapo!s a!ymoreG ) gotta thi!# the a& guys proaly ma&e up that it ofpropaga!&a. ) ca!t figure a!y way that it glorifies o& + a!& it sure loo#s li#e were losi!gthis war 4!yo&y that is actually &a!gerous to sata! ac#!owle&ges that he is real a!& ista#i!g him o! y the power of the 'oly (pirit. "eryo&y that is sitti!g off to the si&e

prete!&i!g there is !o war, has alrea&y ee! coopte&. 3esus sai& if you were li#e 'im, all thepowers of hell woul& come gu!!i!g for you. 'e was!t #i&&i!g. )f youre comfy, youreproaly o! the wro!g team. =e ha& someo!e place curses a!& ritually sacrifice a cat i! fro!tof our fur!iture store &uri!g a prayer meeti!g 'ow ma!y a!imals ha"e ee! sacrifice& i!fro!t of /OU $church%G )f !oo&y is shooti!g at you, the! youre -OT &a!gerous

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So why should we really wat the Holy Spirit? 'o(t we alreadyha)e the *fulless+ of the Holy Spirit if we(re *sa)ed+?

=ell, )ll lea"e it to you to &eci&e if you ha"e all the 'oly (pirit you ca! hol& + if youre so 6amme& pac#e& full of 3esus that !othi!g else ca! fit a!& its 6ust splashi!g out the top a!&

spri!#li!g all the people arou!& you. (i!ce ) &o!t thi!# its a fi1e& *ua!tity a!& a o!eBtimethi!g, )m !ot goi!g to e satisfie& u!til )m tra!sforme& y the re!ewi!g of my mi!&, a !ewcreatio! i! Christ, a fearless wit!ess for the ospel + a!& my sha&ow is heali!g people

=hats the payoffG =hat was promise& to usG =ell, here is a list. /ou &eci&e if you thi!# weare curre!tly getti!g the full e!efits of all of these.

romises a%out the Holy Spirit;● 3esus woul& come to aptie with the 'oly (pirit B a!&:or with fire 8Matt. H@>>I Mar#

>@KI u#e H@>?I 3oh! >@HHI 4cts >@I 4cts >>@>?9● The 5aptism of the 'oly (pirit is for all ge!eratio!s 84cts 2@HKBHJ9● The 5aptism of the 'oly (pirit will gi"e the !ecessary power for wit!essi!g 84cts >@K9● o& gi"es the 'oly (pirit to all those who oey 'im 84cts @H29● o& co!firms the ospel a!& our sal"atio! y the gifts of the 'oly (pirit 8'e. 2@2BA9● The 'oly (pirit will write o&s laws o! our heart 8'e. >0@>AB>79● The !ee& for a!& possiility of rege!eratio! 83oh! H@?9● )f you are le& y the (pirit, youll e li#e the wi!& 83oh! H@K9● The promise of the 'oly (pirit ei!g gi"e! to us all 83oh! >A@>7I >@2?I >?@>HI 4cts

2@>7B>K9● )f you li"e accor&i!g to the (pirit, you are free from co!&em!atio! a!& the flesh 8om.

K@>, JI al. @>?B2AI al. ?@KI Php H@HI ) Peter H@>K9● The (pirit ma#es us free from the law of si! a!& &eath 8om. K@29● )f you are le& y the (pirit of o&, you are the so! of o& 8om. K@>A9● =he! we &o!t #!ow what to pray, the (pirit will pray for us 8om. K@2?B279● The (pirit will wash a!& sa!ctify a!& 6ustify us all 8) Cor. ?@>>I oma!s >@>?I Titus

H@9● The (pirit is the &ow!payme!t o! our future glory 82 Cor. @9● That the (pirit is for all people 8al. H@>A9● Much fruit results from followi!g the (pirit 8al. @22B2A9● =ill teach us all thi!gs a!& lea& us to Truth 83oh! >A@2?I > Cori!. 2@>H9● Teach us how to wiel& the (wor& which is the =or& 8ph. ?@>79● =he! you &o!t #!ow what to say, 'ell gi"e you the wor&s 8Mar# >H@>>I u#e >2@>29● =e ca! #!ow we are 'is y the 'oly (pirit i! us 8) 3oh! H@2A, A@>H9● The (pirit will show us Truth ecause 'e is Truth 8) 3oh! @?9● 'elps us to #eep a!& guar& that goo& which was committe& to us 82 Tim. >@>A9● The 'oly (pirit sprea&s the lo"e of o& aroa& through us 8oma!s @9● i"es us 6oy a!& peace a!& righteous!ess a!& hope 8oma!s >A@>7I oma!s >@>H9● =ill co!firm the true ospel whe! preache& 8> Thes. >@B?I > Peter >@>29● The 'oly (pirit will flow up from i!si&e of you a!& satisfy your thirst 83oh! 7@H7BHJ9

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=ow Thats a lot of stuff 4re you seei!g miracles arou!& you co!firmi!g your wal# witho&G 4re you full of peace a!& 6oy a!& "ictoryG 'a"e you o"ercome si!G =ere all si!!ers,ut we &o!t ha"e to stay that way. The =or& says were a !ew creatio! a!& that the (pirit ofo& will write 'is law o! our hearts a!& #eep us from si!!i!g 'e 6ustifies a!& sa!ctifies a!&lea&s us i! the paths of righteous!ess. )s that what your life is li#eG

)s the 'oly (pirit your teacher + or are you liste!i!g to Me!G -ow, certai!ly, the 'oly (piritca! spea# through other people, were o!e 5o&y a!& were suppose& to a"ail oursel"es ofthose people that were gi"e! as )FT( to the Church to teach a!& preach a!& ge!tly correct.5ut ultimately we shoul& o!ly liste! to them whe! 3(U( is comi!g out of their mouth + !otself or flesh or ma!Bma&e stuff. First a!& foremost, we !ee& to ha"e the #i!& of relatio!shipwith o& where 'e ca! &irect all of our paths a!& we ca! hear 'is "oice lou& a!& clear. 4!&for that you !ee& to e wal#i!g i! holi!ess a!& complete commitme!t to 'im. 4!& for thatyou !ee& the 'oly (pirit + there is !o way to wal# i! holi!ess o! your ow! power

(o how &o we &o thisG Do we ha"e a!y i!structio!sG

/es. These liste& are 6ust a "ery few. The mai! thi!g is that 'e &oes!t wa!t to share spacewith all your ic#y stuff. /ou ha"e to get washe& clea! y true repe!ta!ce to ma#e room a!&the! hu!ger a!& thirst for as ig a *ua!tity of the 'oly (pirit as you ca! get.

"structios a%out the Holy Spirit;● 5e ei!g fille& co!ti!ually 8ph. @>K9● (tir up the gift of o& i! you 82 Tim. >@?9● 5e goo& &ispe!sers o!e i!to a!other of the gifts e!truste& to you 8> Peter A@>09

)ts !ot a o!eBtime thi!g. /ou !ee& to e fille& all the time a!& i! e"erBi!creasi!g *ua!tity sothat you wo!t e i!effecti"e for the ospel 8) Peter >9. 'owe"er much you ha& yester&ay, itwas 3U(T e!ough to get through the trials of that &ay. )f o& is goi!g to co!ti!ue to stretchyou, the! youre goi!g to !ee& more of 'im e"ery &ay ) ca!t $muster up% wis&om or lo!gBsufferi!g or rotherly #i!&!ess There is !o goo& thi!g i! me e1cept 3esus )f ) !ee& to emore of those thi!gs, the! 'e !ee&s to pour it i!to me ecause there is !o other source for it

+ a!& the mecha!ism y which those thi!gs are tra!sferre& is y the power of the 'oly (pirit.

/ou !ee& to test the spirits all the time a!& e sure that youre o!ly getti!g the goo& stuff +there are also cou!terfeits out there ememer this is a war agai!st the greatest liar i!history. 1pect him to e s!ea#y a!& u!&erha!&e& a!& try to use our ow! assets agai!st usa!& try to tur! our "ictories i!to &efeats. 'is fa"orite thi!g is getti!g us to tur! o! a!& &e"oureach other. 4!& were such stupi& sheep, we"e ee! playi!g right i!to the e!emys ha!&s

/ou !ee& to stir up the gift a!& #eep what you ha"e i! motio! a!& !e"er ury it i! the sa!& orput a ushel o! it or hi&e it u!&er a e&. 4!& you !ee& to share with each as they ha"e a!ee&, co!sta!tly pouri!g out all that you ha"e a!& getti!g a fresh filli!g. That way the whole ofthe 5o&y is e*uippe& a!& lifte& up towar& maturity. That way we are o!&e& together a!&they will #!ow us y our lo"e + y our frea#ish sacrificial willi!g!ess to gi"e of a!ythi!g thatwe ha"e, e"e! our 5(T stuff which is our treasure i! hea"e!, !ot 6ust our earthly goo&s=ere to share with each as they ha"e a !ee& + whate"er we ha"e. )t really &oes wor#.

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What if "(m the oe that is euteri- the Holy Spirit?!

Oh, &u&e. That woul& e really a& 5ut you totally ca!, you #!ow. /ou ca! put o& i! a o1.)f you &o!t thi!# o& ca! tal# to people, the! 'e wo!t tal# to you. )f you &o!t thi!# o&heals people, the! &o!t e1pect a!yo&y i! your church to get heale&. 3ust #eep prayi!g thatthe &octors woul& ha"e wis&om a!& rememer all that they lear!e& i! me&ical school. (e!&

the &octors a !ice e!courageme!t letter. Maye 6ust your $goo& "ies% will help. That seemsli#e a really sa& go& to e worshipi!g if you as# me + ut thats the est you ca! hope forecause you"e &e!ie& the super!atural power of o& a!& *ue!che& the (pirit. (o youre o!your ow! power !ow. oo& luc# with that. 8uc# is pretty much all you"e got.9

(ee, 'es "ery polite. The 'oly (pirit is a ge!tle &o"e a!& 'e wo!t stay where 'es !oti!"ite&. 'e &oes!t force 'imself o! people a!& 'e will lea"e the uil&i!g as soo! as you startgoi!g your ow! way a!& ma#i!g it aout /OU. There are lots of $churches% where that e!tleDo"e has!t ee! spotte& i! /4(

The <4(T ma6ority of $Christia!s% i! the =est ha"e proaly !e"er e"e! felt the 'oly (pirit

mo"e at all. Our structures a!& systems are so &irectly a!& perfectly i!"erte& from the way itis (UPPO(D to wor# that we 6ust &o!t lea"e 'im a!y room at all. 4!& so ma!y of us ha"ea&opte& &octri!es that esse!tially o!ly lea"e a little tee!y o1 for the 'oly (pirit to occupy +

6ust the $soupe&Bup co!scie!ce% o1. 4 ge!tle !u&ge to &o the right thi!g. )! fact, e"i&e!tlyits so ge!tle that its i!capale of #eepi!g 0 of the pastors from usi!g por! a!& more tha!half the people i! the e"a!gelical churches of 4merica from getti!g &i"orce&. -e"er mi!&sloth, a!ger, u!forgi"e!ess, &i"isio!, &isse!sio!, selfish amitio!, e!"y, lust pri&e, gree&.'ey, wait Those are the acts of the si!ful !ature that will #eep us from i!heriti!g the #i!g&omof o& 8alatia!s @>JB2>9. Do you mea! that if were &oi!g that stuff, e"e! if we sai& the(i!!ers Prayer a!& were goi!g to church all the time, we might !ot i!herit the #i!g&om ofo&G /ep. Thats !ot what )m sayi!g, thats what the =or& of o& says. )f you lo"e 'im,

youll oey 'im. )f you &o!t forgi"e others, 'e wo!t forgi"e you. )f 'es !ot your F)(Tpriority, the! you are worshipi!g i&ols. Thats a&, rightG /ou proaly ought to #!oc# it off.

5ut how ca! youG 'a"e you trie& reu#i!g that fear i! your ow! !ameG Try this, $) reu#eyou, "ile (pirit of Fear, i! the !ame of Pastor 5o% (ee how that wor#s for you. 'a"e youtrie& to get off of &rugs or por! or a!ger or alcohol i! your ow! powerG 'ow &i& that wor# foryouG )s it all the way go!eG Or &o you 6ust ha"e to e o! guar& all the time a!& co!sta!tlyfearful that it might pop up at a!y mome!t a!& wrec# your lifeG

=hy &o you !ee& the 'oly (piritG 5ecause 'e has the power to completely a!& totally scruthat stuff out o!ce a!& for all a!& ma#e you a !ew perso!. )"e see! 'im &o it i!sta!tly.

Complete a!& total a!& i!sta!ta!eous remo"al of a&&ictio!s to &rugs a!& cigarettes a!& por!a!& all #i!&s of stuff. )"e see! the (pirit of o& &o ra&ical tra!sformatio!s o! people thatresult i! them ei!g completely u!recog!iale to their frie!&s a!& family. -oo&y e"e! #!ewthat it was possile for that cra!#y, a!gstBfille& tee!age girl that was a!ore1ic a!& $cutti!g% toactually e happy 5ut she is + a!& it wo!t go away 4!& its more tha! 6ust sal"atio!, itsei!g FU + a!& lear!i!g how to stay full all the time. 4!& its !ot aout $church% B we 4the church, we &o!t ha"e to O to church. )ts aout ei!g so cramme& pac#e& full of 3esus

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that !othi!g else ca! fit. 4!& its for all of us a!& its a"ailale to&ay a!& it will #eep you fromsi! a!& tra!sform you a!& ma#e you a !ew creatio! a!& youll hear o& a!& 'e will &irect allyour paths. For real. )m !ot ma#i!g this up. )ts all i! the 5ile. /ou 6ust ha"e to elie"e thatthe 5ile mea!s what it says a!& stop liste!i!g to Me!.

5ut its e!tirely possile that youre the o!e that has ee! !euteri!g the 'oly (pirit. )! fact,

e"e! if you &o!t ha"e 'im i! a tee!y wee!y o1, you proaly ha"e limite& 'im somehow.The solutio! is to say youre sorry 8a!& mea! it9 a!& as# 'im to ust through all your o1esa!& 6ust e o& to you howe"er 'e wa!ts. 4s lo!g as its 'im a!& you #!ow its 'im a!& !otsome cou!terfeit, 6ust loose 'im to relate to you i! whate"er way ' thi!#s est. /ou ca! esure that whe! you as# for rea&, hes !ot goi!g to gi"e you a sto!e. 8Mar# 7@J9 )f you cometo 'im with a pure heart see#i!g the real thi!g, 'es !ot goi!g to allow you to get acou!terfeit. 'es a goo& Da&.

This is a o!eBo!Bo!e wal# were suppose& to e ha"i!g here. /ou ca!t get sal"atio! y pro1ythrough someo!e else. /ou ca!t relialy hear o& for yourself if youre ta#i!g someo!eelses wor& for what o& wa!ts you to hear. egar&less of your &e!omi!atio! or theology ora!ythi!g else, /OU are goi!g to e hel& respo!sile for what /OU &i& with the ift 'e ga"eyou. Di& you ury it i! the sa!& or &i& you tra&e it a!& i!"est it wisely a!& ma#e it grow a!&ri!g a great retur!G 8Matthew 2@>ABH09

=he! you sta!& efore o&, 'e is goi!g to as# what /OU &i& with 'is (o! 3esus 8a!& 'is(pirit9. /ou wo!t e ale to lame the pastor or the &e!omi!atio!. )f youre rea&i!g this,youre aware !ow that youre respo!sile a!& that /OU will ha"e to a!swer for why /OUgrie"e& a!& laspheme& the 'oly (pirit. /ou ca!t lame it o! 3oh! Mac4rthur or the 5ile

4!swer Ma! or some heresy hu!ter wesite you rea&. /oure a grow! up, you ca! rea& the=or& of o&, you ca! see# the or&, you ca! a!swer whe! 'e #!oc#s. 'es ee! tryi!g toget through to you, 'es ee! sta!&i!g at the &oor a!& #!oc#i!g. )f you har&e!e& your heart,the! the co!se*ue!ces are o! your ow! hea&.

)f this is getti!g through, maye you coul& pray this 8or somethi!g li#e it, whate"er9@

'ear Bord >esus/ " lo)e ou so much. " do(t -et all of this ad " do(t -et how e7actly itmi-ht cha-e thi-s/ %ut " ow "(m ot all the way full. lease/ Bord/ please/ " ha)e toow it(s ou D " do(t wat a couterfeit or aythi- from the eemy ad " do(t wat itto %e my ow flesh. :ut " -otta ha)e more of ou/ Bord! lease/ "(m sorry for whate)er"()e doe to -rie)e our Spirit. "f there is somethi- i particular that "()e doe that ouwat me to repet for specifically/ please show it to me ad " will/ %ut otherwise/ pleaseaccept my apolo-y ad wash me clea with the :lood of >esus. "(ll try to do %etter. "did(t ow that there was more of ou a)aila%le to me! lease/ Bord/ Eust %aptie meor du me or mariate me or whate)er ou ha)e to do so that "(m all the way full/shae to-ether/ paced dow ad o)erflowi- with the Holy Spirit. lease -et aypieces of me out of our way so that " ca wal i the fulless of all that ou ha)e forme. " promise to -i)e ou all the -lory ad ot mae it a%out me. lease/ 2%%a? " cometo ou i faith/ %elie)i- that this is what ou wat for me/ so " ow ou(re -oi- toaswer it. Show me how to reach up ad dri from the Foutai of Bi)i- Water all thetime. " the Name of >esus Christ/ my Bord. 2me.






eah/ whate)er. How %ad could it %e?What ca the Holy Spirit do to me ayway?

Oh, you 6ust ha& to go a!& as# that, &i&!t youG -ow were goi!g to ha"e to get it o! Di& youreally put the 'oly (pirit is such a small o1 that you thi!# /OU are igger tha! ')MG Oh,thats go!!a hurt. ) sure hope you hear my war!i!g o! this, cause your cloc# is tic#i!g if you&o!t. )ts a& e!ough if you elie"e it, ut ) sure hope youre !ot teachi!g that stuff

Wari-s a%out the Holy Spirit;● 5lasphemy agai!st the 'oly (pirit will ot e forgi"e! 8Matt. >2@H>BH2I Mar# H@2JI

u#e >2@>09● )f you resist 'im, youre stiffB!ec#e& a!& u!circumcise& i! heart 84cts 7@>9● Do!t grie"e 'im y &i"isio! i! the 5o&y 8ph. A@H09● Do!t *ue!ch the (pirit 8> Thes. @>J9● Do!t i!sult the (pirit + or else 8'e. >0@2JBH09● Do!t har&e! your hearts to 'is "oice y your u!elief + or else 8'e. H@7B>J9● The (pirit is 6ealous a!& &oes!t li#e you ma#i!g somethi!g else a! i&ol 83ames A@9

● )f you try to lie to 'im, 'e might 6ust #ill you 84cts @>B>09● Try:test e"ery spirit to e sure it is of o& 8) 3oh! A@>B?9● )f you hate, youre !ot hati!g ma!, ut o& that ga"e 'is (pirit 8> Thes. A@K9● /our 5o&y is the temple of the 'oly (pirit, !ot your ow! 8) Cori!. ?@>J9● Those without the (pirit will persecute you 8al. A@2JI al. @>79● )ts impossi%le for those who were o!ce e!lighte!e& a!& ha"e taste& the hea"e!ly gift

a!& were ma&e parta#ers i! the 'oly (pirit a!& the =or& of o& a!& the power of theworl& to come, a!& the! fall away, to e re!ewe& agai! u!to repe!ta!ce 8'e. ?@AB9

) thi!# 'e sort of me!tio!e& this i! the Ol& Testame!t war!i!gs, too. =hat is $lasphemyagai!st the 'oly (pirit%G =ell, i! the co!te1t of that passage, people were sayi!g that 3esus

was &eli"eri!g &emo!s, ut e"e! though the 'oly (pirit was &oi!g it, they were gi"i!g sata!cre&it for it. (o they were &e!yi!g that the 'oly (pirit was real or there or powerful or at wor#a!& i!stea& glorifie& the e!emy, who was the o!e getti!g e1orcise& 4gai!, if you start telli!gfol#s that o& &oes!t heal people a!& that e"ery faith healer o! T< is full of sata! a!& itssata! heali!g people, the!I 49 you ha"e to show me where i! the 5ile sata! heals a!yo&y,59 you ha"e e1plai! how a house &i"i&e& ca! sta!&, C9 you ha"e to u!&ersta!& that if <-O- perso! actually &i& get heale& y the power of the 'oly (pirit, ut you are so carelesswith your wor&s as to gi"e the e!emy 4 the cre&it, the! you"e laspheme& the 'oly (pirit.)f a!yo!e is spea#i!g i! To!gues a!& it )( real a!& for to&ay a!& for sprea&i!g the ospela!& )( ei!g use& 5ilically a!& appropriately, ut you i!sist that 4 to!gues are of the&e"il, the! you"e laspheme& the 'oly (pirit. 4re you getti!g thisG 4!& ) &o!t #!ow e1actly

what the re*uireme!ts or limitatio!s of this threat are, ut 3(U( 'imself sai& that peoplethat &o that =) -< e forgi"e! for it. /ou might wa!t to e e1tra, ET4 careful.

4!& o!e of the "ery est ways to grie"e the 'oly (pirit is y e!couragi!g, sa!ctio!i!g,tolerati!g, ai&i!g, participati!g i! &i"isio! i! the 5o&y of Christ. =ere !ot 6ust tal#i!g aoutthe local co!gregatio!, were tal#i!g aout the whole 5o&y. =e ha"e H7,000Q &e!omi!atio!s!ow, how coul& 'e !ot e stompi!g ma& furious with usG 'ow coul& the 'oly (pirit !ot egrie"e& y this horrile mess we"e ma&eG 4!& we tol& them it was o& that tol& us to &o it






iste!, u&&y, let me war! you. /ou &o!t #!ow who youre messi!g with here. This is a thir&of the o&hea& youre po#i!g at. 'ell se!& a stro!g &elusio! o! you &esti!e& for your&estructio! a!& you wo!t e"e! #!ow 'e &i& it 8thats what $stro!g &elusio!% mea!s9. /oulle sure youre heari!g o&, e"e! while the 4TF a!& F5) are rolli!g ta!#s i!to your li"i!groom. /oull e asolutely positi"e that you are o&s chose! messe!ger a!& that youreheari!g 'im a!& testi!g the spirits a!& #!ow what youre &oi!g, all the way to the ottom of

the cooler of poiso!e& ;oolBai&. /oull ha"e a worl&wi&e T< mi!istry a!& e uil&i!g a!amuseme!t par# a!& ha"e air co!&itio!ers i! your &og houses a!& the !e1t thi!g you #!ow,youll e i! 6ail for soliciti!g. /ou might e"e! e the presi&e!t of the -atio!al 4ssociatio! of"a!gelicals a!& ha"e the Presi&e!t of the U!ite& (tates o! your spee& &ial, ut efore you#!ow it youre ha"i!g se1 with your masseuse a!& e1pose& o! the same Fo1 -ews cha!!elthat use& to lo"e you. 4!& youll !e"er e"e! #!ow what hit you u!til its too late.

DO -OT u!&erestimate o& o rea& Deutero!omy 2K. )f you &isoey 'e will crush you li#ea ug. 4!& it e"e! says, $3ust as it please& me to see you prosper, it will please me to &estroyyou.% 8Deutero!omy 2K@?H9 )f you go your ow! way, 'e will see to it that you e!& up eati!gyour ow! chil&re!. =O= =ere !ot teachi!g T'4T i! (u!&ay (chool This is a 6ealous

o& were tal#i!g aout here. /es, 'es a warm, fuy, lo"i!g shepher&. 5ut 'es more tha!that, too. $)t is a fearful thi!g to fall i!to the ha!&s of a li"i!g o&.% 8'erews >0@H>9 Do you#!ow why shepher&s carry little lams arou!& their !ec#sG 5ecause whe! a little lam wo!teha"e a!& #eeps ru!!i!g off, the shepher& &islocates or rea#s their leg, the! sets it a!&carries them u!til it heals. T'- that little lam will e so o!&e& a!& &epe!&e!t o! theshepher& that it will -< ru! away agai!. 'e &oes it out of lo"e a!& #!owi!g what is estfor the lam. /ou #!ow all those pictures of 3esus as the lo"i!g shepher& with a little lamarou!& 'is !ec#, its ecause 'e ro#e its leg ) #!ow 'es &o!e it to me a!& 'es proaly&o!e it to you. 4!& )& li#e 'im !ot to ha"e to &o it to me a!y more tha! !ecessary

'e might hit you with a us, ut 'e might also 6ust lift 'is ha!& the ti!iest little it a!& let yougo your ow! way. 'e might 6ust gi"e you the &esires of your heart, which has somethi!g to&o with your secretarys clea"age. 4!& it will wrec# your life. 'e might e"e! se!& more a!&more people to your co!gregatio! so that it woul& grow a!& you& e famous a!& feel li#eo& is lessi!g you a!& mo!ey is rolli!g i! a!& you get a !ew oo# &eal + a!& you aregetti!g farther a!& farther from the ro#e!, co!trite "essel that is actually useful to o&.5efore you #!ow it, that ra&ical, 3esus frea#, i&ealistic firstBtime pastor is a PurposeB&ri"e!,igBchurch i!stitutio!al sellBout with a !ew gym a!& a cha!&elier i! the sa!ctuary + a!& aco!gregatio! full of lee&i!g, suc#i!g spiritual chest wou!&s with !o help o! the horio!. 4!&youll 6ust e as happy as a clam while you lea& them all &ow! the roa& way straight to hell.

)f you go your ow! way, if you get out from u!&er 'is hea&ship, the! a!ythi!g that wa!ts towill shoot at you + a!& 'e will let it ha"e at you u!til you repe!t, ut you ca!t repe!t whe!

youre u!&er a stro!g &elusio! that co!"i!ces you that youre 6ust fi!e. 5ut the o!ly solutio! isto repe!t + ut you ca!t. et itG /oure i! a $Catch 22% u!til 'e thi!#s you"e ha& e!ough a!&ha"e lear!e& your lesso!. ea& this B www.FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com:re&R&rago!.htm .

)"e see! it. )"e felt it. ) #!ow aout the wrath of o& a!& the lo"e of o&. -O- of us ca!get our hea& arou!& the e1tremes of either o!e + a!& yet 'e is oth. /ou ca!t lea"e o!e outa!& say that you ha"e a complete u!&ersta!&i!g of o&.


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=a!t some 5ilical e1amplesG

eople who H2' the Holy Spirit ad the were filled with somethi- else later;● ;i!g (aul + fille& with a! e"il spirit FOM OD 8) (am. >?@>A9● 4!a!ias a!& (apphira + a!& &roppe& &ea& 84cts @>B>09● Decei"e& Christia!s 8) Timothy A@>9 B '#ow the Spirit spea!eth e(pressly, that in the

latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, anddoctrines of devils")

=hat #i!&s of &octri!es of &e"ilsG Oh, maye that &e"ils are!t real a!& that we &o!t !ee& tofight them a!& we &o!t actually ha"e a!y weapo!s a!ymore. That sou!&s li#e a &octri!e a&e"il woul& li#e you to uy i!to, &oes!t itG Or that if we say so ma!y $'ail Marys% a!& $OurFathers% we ca! #eep o! &ri!#i!g a!& cussi!g a!& playi!g the fiel& a!& ei!g !ot at all li#e3esus the rest of the wee# a!& were 6ust fi!e. Or maye that o& wa!ts all Christia!s to erich a!& fat a!& comfy. Or maye that o& lo"es 4merica so much that 'ell rapture us outefore a!y shooti!g starts so we wo!t ha"e to actually e!&ure a!y persecutio! 8e"e! thoughChristia!s pretty much e"erywhere else alrea&y are9.

Oh Or the ig o!e, that if we 6ust say this little prayer the! we ca! pretty much &o whate"erwe wa!t after that a!& were perfectly safe a!& ca! e sure that were goi!g to hea"e! !omatter what. -e"er mi!& or&ship or oe&ie!ce or selfBsacrifice. -e"er mi!& ei!g crucifie&&aily or ei!g perfect as 'e is perfect + 6ust this repeat after me. )m 6ust 4 sure that thatwas a &octri!e of &e"ils, ecause it sure ai!t i! the 5ile a!& its cause M))O-(, mayehu!&re&s of millio!s, to miss the whole poi!t. The -ew Testame!t woul& e a lot shorter if itall oile& &ow! to $4ccept 3esus i!to your heart, say this prayer a!& youll e sa"e&.% )! fact,there is !o such thi!g li#e that a!ywhere i! the 5ile. =ere to wor# out our sal"atio! with feara!& tremli!g. =ere to wal# humly efore our o& as ro#e! a!& co!trite "essels useful for'is purposes. =ere to surre!&er 4

)f we 6ust !ee& to accept 3esus as our $(a"ior%, the! how come the =or& of o& refers to 'imthat way so few timesG

$1< times as Bord H2 times as amAH times as Christ 1 times as Sa)ior KA times as (o! of Ma! > times as ProphetA2 times as Teacher >> times as MasterH7 times as (o! of o& 7 times as 'igh PriestH times as ;i!g

(ource@ $4 (a"i!g Faith% y 5er!ie ;oerselma!, 5erea! Pulishers, page 2A. 5oo# freeo!li!e at http@::www.erea!pulishers.com:5oo#R(a"i!gRFaith:5oo#R(a"i!gRFaith.htm .

'ow much &o you !ee& to oey the lifeguar& that pulle& you out of the ocea! whe! you were&row!i!gG Maye you se!& him a Christmas car& for a few years. Maye you thi!# fo!&ly ofhim a!& are grateful for him ha"i!g sa"e& you, ut you &o!t oey him &aily a!& let him &irectall your paths 5ut $OD,% $Messiah,% or $Christ% is a &iffere!t thi!g altogether. )f 'e is yourMaster a!& you are 'is ser"a!t the you &o!t get to &irect your ow! paths. 'es a ;i!g /oushoul& ow i! 'is prese!ce, wait o! 'is e"ery wor& a!& &o whate"er 'e tells you.

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)m war!i!g you. Do!t toy with the o&hea&. Do!t go sayi!g 'es powerless a!& 'echa!ges. ) &o!t wa!t to hear your tal# aout some $Dispe!satio!% where o& stoppe& ei!gwho 'e was efore. /es, 'e cha!ges the way 'e relates to us as we mature, i!&i"i&ually a!&collecti"ely, ut 'e &oes!t cha!ge who 'e is a!& 'e &oes!t stop &oi!g super!atural thi!gs.'es OD. 'es -OT $!atural%. 'e ca!t help ut e super!atural. 4!& whe! 'e touches stuffsuper!atural thi!gs happe!. Thats y &efi!itio!.

)f there is a &ispe!satio! where the 'oly (pirit is powerless, the! what else is "arialeG 'owelse might o& cha!ge without war!i!g us ahea& of timeG 4!& how come the e!emy is!tpowerlessG

)f a!ythi!g, as we mature a!& are more ale to ha!&le respo!siility a!& wal# i! lo"e a!&sumissio! a!& ro#e!!ess, 'e woul& e pouri!g out MO of 'is (pirit a!& the miraclewor#i!g power that goes alo!g with it. =he! we actually grow up i!to 'im who is the 'ea&,maye we ca! e truste& with the full!ess of the really cool toys. 8phesia!s A@>9 )f were!ot seei!g the #i!& of sig!s a!& wo!&ers that were see! y the first 4postles 8a!& arehappe!i!g arou!& the worl& as we spea#9, the! maye its ecause the Christia!s i! 4merica

are arely ale to &igest the mil# theyre ei!g fe& a!& ca!t ha!&le soli& meat.

" Corithias #;186 8;3<9* $nd I, brethren, could not spea! unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, evenas unto babes in Christ. + I have fed you with mil!, and not with meat for hitherto yewere not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal forwhereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, andwal! as men- For while one saith, I am of /aul" and another, I am of $pollos" are yenot carnal-

3ust so were more clear a!& !oo&y ca! lame a misu!&ersta!&i!g o! ;i!g 3ames ol&!glish.

1 Corithias #;186 8o&s =or& "ersio!9* Brothers and sisters, I couldn0t tal! to you as spiritual people but as people stillinfluenced by your corrupt nature. 1ou were infants in your faith in Christ. + I gave youmil! to drin!. I didn0t give you solid food because you weren0t ready for it. 2ven nowyou aren0t ready for it because you0re still influenced by your corrupt nature. 3henyou are 4ealous and 5uarrel among yourselves, aren0t you influenced by your corruptnature and living by human standards- 3hen some of you say, 'I follow /aul) andothers say, 'I follow $pollos,) aren0t you acting li!e 6sinful7 humans-

) et thats li#eI $)m for uther,% or $)m for Cal"i!,% or $) follow Me!!o,% or $) follow Paige

Patterso!,% or $) follow T.D. 3a#es.% ) et thats why were still ei!g ottlefe& a!& seem to elosi!g grou!& &aily to ra&ical, 3esusBlo"i!g frea#s li#e the Church i! Chi!a. )f we weremature, we& e followi!g 3(U( C')(T a!& ma#i!g ')M our hea& i!stea& of some M4-=e& hear 'is "oice a!& O5/ all the time. =e& e ')( sheep a!& !ot !ee& hire&shepher&s + who, y the way, are i! for a ru&e awa#e!i!g whe! the True (hepher& shows upa!& appoi!ts 'is ow! U!&erB(hepher&s i!stea& of the o!es we "ote& i!to office to tic#le ourears /ou might wa!t to rea& e#iel HA. 84!& weep, repe!t a!& mour! efore its too late.9






"f more Holy Spirit is a)aila%le to me/ how do " -et it?

oo& *uestio!. This is #i!& of importa!t, is!t itG )f theres more out there, ) wa!t it a!& ) !ee&to #!ow how to get it

Trasferral of the Holy Spirit or 5ifts or Heali-A %y the layi- o of hads;

● Moses to 3oshua 8Deut HA@J9● Peter a!& 3oh! to the (amarita! elie"ers who were sa"e&, ut ha&!t recei"e& the

(pirit yet 84cts K@>B209● 4!a!ias to (aul 84cts J@>79● Paul to the elie"ers i! phesus 84cts >J@?9● Paul heals y layi!g o! ha!&s 84cts 2K@K9● l&ers to Timothy 8> Tim. A@>A9● Paul to Timothy 82 Tim. >@?9● Presumaly Paul to the oma!s if he coul& get there 8oma!s >@>>9● reat Commissio! charges all elie"ers to lay ha!&s o! the sic# 8Mar# >?@>K9

This is the most commo! way see! i! the 5ile a!&, i! actual practice, the most commo! wayits &o!e i! the churches that practice this still to&ay. There is somethi!g aout comi!gtogether i! perso! a!& actual physical co!tact that is really powerful.

The =or& also cautio!s this@

> Tim @22 B %ay hands suddenly on no man, neither be parta!er of other men0s sins!eep thyself pure.

(ome $chu!#s% of the Church 8that &o!t elie"e the 'oly (pirit mo"es li#e this9 i!terpret "ersethat to mea! that layi!g o! of ha!&s is o!ly for commissio!i!g ser"ices to se!& out

missio!aries or or&ai! someo!e + a!& that they are !ot to &o that without e1te!si"eperso!ality testi!g a!& or&i!atio! committee meeti!gs a!& group "otes o! the acceptaility ofthe ca!&i&ates &octri!e a!& a&here!ce to &e!omi!atio!al policies. (a&ly ma!Bli#e is!t itG

5ut ) thi!# it mea!s what it says, $Do!t lay ha!&s su&&e!ly o! a!yo&y, lest you e parta#erof their si!s.% )ts a &a!gerous thi!g to ha"e people $pour% stuff i!to you. There are all #i!&s ofways that the e!emy ca! s!ea# i!. =hether its somethi!g of the e!emy or 6ust $soul force%a!& self, its 4/ importa!t to ma#e sure that youre fully armore& up a!& co"ere& i! the5loo& of 3esus efore you lay ha!&s o! a!yo&y. /ou &o!t wa!t to gi"e them somethi!gthat they are!t rea&y for, or some piece of your ow! $self% that they shoul&!t ha"e a!& you&o!t wa!t to recei"e a!ythi!g from them that is!t what o& wa!ts for you. More o! that later,

ut the poi!t is that o& will !ot gi"e you a sto!e if you as# for rea&. 'e is a goo& Father. (owhe! someo!e lays ha!&s o! you, DO -OT ma#e T'M a! i&ol a!& see# whate"er theyha"e DO -OT as# the or& to ma#e you li#e them. 4s# the or& to gi"e you O-/ whate"er'e wa!ts for you. 4ll goo& gifts come from the Father. )f you go with a pure heart, co"ere& i!the 5loo& a!& see#i!g 3esus + youll get 3esus. )f you go see#i!g a ma!ifestatio!, or a gift soyour mi!istry will e famous, youll e rolli!g o! the floor, cluc#i!g li#e a chic#e! efore you#!ow it. )f your moti"atio! is lust, 'ell tur! you o"er to the e!emy Do!t parta#e i! their si!s.






=ecei)i- of the Holy Spirit %y Eust heari- the Truth of the 5ospel preached;● e!tiles i! the house of Cor!elius 84cts >09

(ometimes all we !ee& to &o is e i! a situatio! where the 'oly (pirit is spea#i!g throughsomeo!e 8as 'e was whe! Peter was testifyi!g of Truth of the ospel9. That creates a$ule% i! which the 'oly (pirit ca! mo"e freely ecause were !ot goi!g aout our ow!age!&a, ut glorifyi!g the (o! a!& spea#i!g to the imme&iate !ee&s of the people.

(ometimes all someo!e !ee&s is to see the possiility, a!& their eyes are ope!e&, their heartis hu!gry a!& the or& swoops i! a!& satisfies their heart. This is altogether TOO rare i! the$church% to&ay. Mostly were osesse& with our ow! age!&as. The true ospel, a call forrepe!ta!ce a!& asolute sumissio! to the ;i!g, is "ery, "ery rare.

Please !ote, they were !ot i! a $church% + this was a pri"ate home. 4!& there was !o specialmusic or liturgical respo!si"e rea&i!g or offeri!g or a!!ou!ceme!ts or a!ythi!g They &i&!tha"e to go through eight wee#s of the $Purpose Dri"e! ife% efore they coul& e $memers%.They 6ust elie"e& i! faith a!& recei"e&. 4!& !oo&y coul& &e!y that they shoul& e aptie&i! water right o! the spot. 5ecause they were &esperately hu!gry for o&, were show! that'e is real a!& ca! satisfy their hu!ger, they sought 'im a!& fou!& 'im.

=ecei)i- of the Holy Spirit or a 5iftA %y *suci-+ Him out;● The woma! with a loo& &isease &rawi!g power from 3esus garme!t 8Mar# @2ABHA9● People elie"i!g i! faith that they coul& &raw power from Peters sha&ow 84cts @>9● 3airus #!ew that if 3esus woul& 6ust touch his &aughter, she& e heale& 8Mar# @2H9● 'a!&#erchiefs that ha& touche& Pauls s#i! were heali!g people 84cts >J@>29

/ou ca! get your cup full alo!e i! a closet. /ou ca! get your cup full with the help of others./ou ca! get your cup full whe! the or& spea#s to you aout 'is ma6esty i! a su!set or astarry s#y or the oc#y Mou!tai!s. 'e is all arou!&. 'e is right esi&e you. each out a!&touch the hem of 'is garme!t a!& as# 'im for whate"er you !ee&. )f you see# 'im, you willfi!& 'im. 3ust stop telli!g 'im what 'e ca! a!& ca!t &o.

=ecei)i- the Holy Spirit %y *drii-+ Him i;● Da"i&s thirst 8Psalm A2I Psalm ?H@>B?I Psalm >AH@?B>29● The or&s i!structio! through )saiah 8)saiah 9

'* Ho, every one that thirsteth, #ome ye to the waters, and he that hath nomoney" come ye, buy, and eat" yea, come, buy wine and mil! without moneyand without price. + 3herefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread-and your labour for that which satisfieth not- hear!en diligently unto me, and eatye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.)

● The i!structio! of Paul + 8) Cori!thia!s >2@>H9'* For by one Spirit are we all bapti8ed into one body, whether we be 9ews or

Gentiles, whether we be bond or free" and have been all made to drin% intoone Spirit.)

● 3esus ow! (ermo! o! the Mou!t 8Matthew @HB>29 Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the !ingdom of heaven. Blessedare they that mourn for they shall be comforted. : Blessed are the mee! forthey shall inherit the earth. ; 3lessed are they whi#h do hunger and thirstafter righteousness for they shall be filled. < Blessed are the merciful for

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they shall obtain mercy. = Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.> Blessed are the peacema!ers for they shall be called the children of God.*? Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness0 sa!e for theirs isthe !ingdom of heaven. ** Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and

persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sa!e.*+ @e4oice, and be e(ceeding glad for great is your reward in heaven for so

persecuted they the prophets which were before you.● 3esus a!& the =oma! at the =ell 83oh! A@>09*? 9esus answered and said unto her, If thou !newest the gift of God, and whoit is that saith to thee, Give me to drin!" thou wouldest have as!ed of him, andhe would have given thee living water. ** &he woman saith unto him, Sir, thouhast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep from whence then hast thou thatliving water- *+ $rt thou greater than our father 9acob, which gave us the well,and dran! thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle- * 9esus answeredand said unto her, 3hosoever drin!eth of this water shall thirst again * 3utwhosoever drin%eth of the water that $ shall give him shall never thirst4 butthe water that $ shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing upinto everlasting life.

● The promise of 3esus B 83oh! 7@H7BHJ9'< In the last day, that great day of the feast, 9esus stood and cried, saying, Ifany man thirst, let him come unto me, and drin!. = He that believeth on me, asthe scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.> A 3ut this spa%e he of the Spirit , which they that believe on him shouldreceive for the Holy Ghost was not yet given" because that 9esus was not yetglorified.)

Di& you get all thatG The =or& of o& says that fou!tai!s or ri"ers or streams or wells of)<)- =ater will flow up from )-()D of us That is our irthright Do you feel thathappe!i!g to youG Do you #!ow how to stic# a straw i! the i"er of ife a!& suc# u!til yourefullG Maye your $cup% is all full of the wro!g #i!& of stuff a!& theres !o room. Maye you puta cor# o! it y u!forgi"e!ess or fear or itter!ess. Maye you ha"e your ha!& o"er the top ofyour cup ecause you thi!# you"e ha& e!ough + or alrea&y gotte! all that was a"ailale.

This ri"er + this water + that were tal#i!g aout is the 'oly (pirit. 'e is the $flui&% that fills ourcup. 'e is that which is the righteous!ess of o& that writes the aw of the or& o! ourhearts. =e are to e FU a!& to #eep getti!g full + otherwise the e!emy has room to 6umpi! a!& mess with us. 4-D we are to crucify pieces of oursel"es &aily, so that 'e ca! i!creasea!& we ca! &ecrease. More o! that later.

/ou shoul& e ale to see from these "erses what were suppose& to e &oi!g, ut this is

what we"e actually &o!e.9er +***** Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods- but my people havechanged their glory for that which doth not profit. *+ Be astonished, D ye heavens, atthis, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the %D@E. * For my peoplehave committed two evils" they have forsa!en me the fountain of living waters, andhewed them out cisterns, bro!en cisterns, that can hold no water.

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They hewe& out their ow! cister!sG Do you #!ow what that isG 4 cister! is a large co!tai!erto hol& lots of water. Typically it woul& e a ig "at i! the grou!& use& to hol& water for awhole group or trie to &ri!# from whe! there was a !ee&. The Chil&re! of o& &ug theseartificial "ats a!& trie& to store up their ow! water + ut they lea# They shoul& ha"e 6usttruste& o& + the fou!tai! of li"i!g water + a!& elie"e& that 'e woul& supply their !ee& asthey !ee&e& it, ut i!stea&, they trie& to store it up. i#e the ma!!a i! the &esert that o!ly

laste& for o!e &ay, if they trie& to store it, it woul& go a&. They ha& to trust i! o&s &ailypro"isio! a!& !ot trust i! the wor# of their ow! ha!&s.

They uilt large "ats to store the water, ut it &oes!t wor#, their cister!s are lea#i!g. 4-Dthey ha"e irritate& o& y !ot lea!i!g o! 'im a!& trusti!g 'im for their pro"isio!

Do you #!ow what the spiritual e*ui"ale!t to those cister!s is to&ayG )ts the i!stitutio!alchurches that are uil&i!g large co!tai!ers 8uil&i!gs, sa!ctuaries, storehouses, ar!s9 a!&co!"i!ci!g people that they are the place to come to get the i"i!g =ater. 5ut they arelea#i!g a!& ca!t co!tai! it + or are lu#ewarm a!& stag!a!t a!& stale 8or !e"er ha& a!y i!there i! the first place9. They are full of &ayBol& ma!!a that &oes!t satisfy + a!& i! fact, it is

poiso!i!g the people, who are prete!&i!g that it tastes goo& ecause e"eryo!e else arou!&them is prete!&i!g that it tastes goo&

The li"i!g water flows up from )-()D of us. =e 4 the Church. =e &o!t !ee& largecommu!al cister!s where someo!e has store& up ol&, stale water. =e !ee& the fou!tai!s toflow from our ow! ellies =e !ee& to lear! how to reach out a!& touch the hem of 3esusgarme!t a!& suc#. =e !ee& to stic# a straw i! the ri"er that flows from the Thro!e of o&a!& &ri!# u!til were full + a!& the! lear! how to stay full all the time )t really &oes wor# li#ethat. )ts 6ust that it re*uires faith li#e a chil& a!& layi!g &ow! all our artificial &e"ices a!&seei!g the complete useless!ess of the lea#y cister!s that we"e uilt o! our ow! powerwhe! we tur!e& away a!& forsoo# the Fou!tai! of i"i!g =ater. O!ly whe! we are

perso!ally full ca! we the! go a!& truly 5 the Church to a lost a!& &yi!g worl&.

=e !ee& to get u!clogge& a!& get the fou!tai!s that are suppose& to e flowi!g up from ourow! ellies mo"i!g agai!

o& forgi"e us. =e ma&e this way too har&. 4ll we e"er ha& to &o was teach them to get theircup all clea!e& out, #eep it clea!e& out, reach up a!& hol& 3esus ha!& a!& suc# really har&.5ut we trie& to satisfy their o&Bgi"e! spiritual thirst with our ow! &e"ices a!& programs a!&e!tertai!me!ts. 4!& theyre &yi!g all arou!& us a!& the e!emy is eati!g them for lu!ch + a!&were prete!&i!g e"erythi!g is 6ust fi!e.

=ho e!efits most from a theology that says the i"er &rie& up or that you get o!e shot glassfull a!& thats all youre e"er goi!g to getG =hat a sa& wal# with o& that woul& eG ) !ee&'im i! )-C4()- *ua!tity &aily so that ) wo!t e i!effecti"e a!& u!pro&ucti"e for theospel 82 Peter >@2B>>9

(o who e!efits most from a fi1e&B*ua!tity, o!eBtime o!ly, 'oly (pirit theologyG /ep. ottae the a& guys. Cause the =or& of o& says that the (pirit will o"erflow out of us a!& ee!&less.

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Horse Teeth =eality Chec

) #!ow people that ha"e ha& fol#s lay ha!&s o! them a!& impart 8share9 with them super!aturallya!& i!sta!tly the gift of flue!tly playi!g the pia!o or &rums or other thi!gs.

) perso!ally ha& a ift of 4&mi!istratio! share& with me y a rother i! 'ousto!. )t starte& to

e1press itself imme&iately a!& )"e share& it with others as the or& has &irecte&. )! my ol&usi!ess, ) woul& wor# at a &es# u!til the piles of stuff o"erwhelme& it, the! we woul& rope it off a!&)& mo"e to a!other &es# -ow )m #eepi!g etter recor&s, my "a! is clea!e& out, )m ma#i!g thee&, )m aware of small &etails, a!& )m &oi!g other stuff that ) use& to thi!# was creepy + ut ) really!ee&e& these s#ills for what o& is calli!g me to &o.

4 sister, that use& to e o! crac# a!& all #i!&s of a&, &ar# thi!gs efore the or& rescue& her a!&lit her up, was se!t to my fur!iture store. (he ha& ee! so &eep i!to e!emy territory that she ishyperse!siti"e to the a& guys. (he pretty much sees &emo!s o! people all the time + a!& ca! tellyou e1actly what is messi!g with them. )f there is a war, ) wa!t to ( the a& guys, !ot 6ust lastaway i! the &ar# hopi!g ) hit somethi!g. ) ha& sought the or& a!& the ift of Discer!me!t of(pirits. This sister a!& ma!y others came a!& share& with me of the wealth of their i!herita!ce.

O"er the last two years, li#e a !ew wi!e, all these &iffere!t, special grapes ha"e le!&e& togethera!& helpe& me to see etter a!& etter i! the spirit. 4s the or& allows, !ow ) pretty much seewhate"er is messi!g with someo!e a!& ca! tell them what it is, where it came from, how lo!g itsee! there, what its sayi!g a!& what we !ee& to &o to get it off a!& #eep the &oors close&. The fruitfrom that has ee! amai!g as OT( of people ha"e ha& the chai!s ro#e! a!& the yo#es lifte&.

4 rother i! ;a!sas City that ) #!ow si!gs i! the (pirit, a "erse i! to!gues a!& the i!terpretatio! i!!glish + origi!al prophetic compositio!s that ca! sometimes go o! for hours. The or& sai& )shoul& as# him to share that with me. 'e &i& a!& three &ays later ) starte& getti!g a!& writi!g &ow!!ew so!gs.

=he! the or& first ga"e me a li!guistic to!gue to pray with it was a complete la!guage pac#agethat ) coul& tra!slate o! the fly. ) ca! rea& the 5ile i! it, ) ca! co!6ugate "ers + it is a la!guage of

Ma!, some #i!& of -ati"e 4merica! that we ha"e!t i&e!tifie& yet. (i!ce the!, 'e has gi"e! meother to!gues for warfare, for messages to the Church, for i!tercessio!, for commu!icatio! a!&other thi!gs. 4ll of them e&ify me i! some way. Praise o& ) !ee& all the e&ifyi!g ) ca! get

) ha"e share& with others or ha& share& with meI peace, &iscer!me!t of spirits, wis&om, faith,ol&!ess, #!owle&ge, la!guages, selfBco!trol, i!terpretatio! of to!gues a!& more. ) ha"e see! thefruits of that o"er a!& o"er a!& o"er as they ma!ifest a!& e*uip people to wal# closer to the or& orto e etter lea&ers or el&ers. )t is asolutely imperati"e that we $share with each as they ha"e a!ee&% + clearly that i!structio! i!clu&es a ag of groceries or some warm clothes + ut our spiritualassets are much more "aluale a!& 6ust as tra!sferale. o&s eco!omy says that if ) gi"esomethi!g away sacrificially, 'e will gi"e me more =ere !ot waiti!g o! 'im to pour out 'is (pirito! all flesh, 'e is waiti!g o! us to stop ei!g lu#ewarm a!& stag!a!t a!& shari!g with each all that

'e has alrea&y gi"e! us 4!& the! the e!&less ri"ers of li"i!g water ca! flow

=ere #!ow! y the wor& of our testimo!y. ) &o!t e1pect you to elie"e it, ut this is my testimo!y.)ts true ecause )"e see! it a!& felt it a!& #!ow it to e true. Diselie"e me if you li#e, ut youC4--OT co!"i!ce me that what ) saw with my ow! eyes &i&!t happe! ecause it &isagrees withyour theology. )"e 6ust see! too ma!y miracles for me to uy that li!e a!ymore.

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Ha)e 2postles ad rophets Ceased Too?

=hat the Cessatio!ists seem to miss, a!& most others who are i!te!t o! their o!e, si!glei!terpretatio! a!& applicatio! of the =or& of o& ei!g the right a!& o!ly o!e, is that the=or& is spiral. There are multiple applicatio!s. They argue !ot o!ly that certai! gifts ha"ecease&, ut also that certai! offices a!& calli!gs ha"e cease&. That o& ga"e certai! people

as $gifts% to the Church at o!e poi!t + ut e"i&e!tly he &oes!t gi"e us those gifts a!ymore.

The most commo! argume!t is that of phesia!s 2@20. That the Church was uilt o! thefou!&atio! of the 4postles a!& Prophets a!& that fou!&atio! is lai& a!& fi!al a!& thereforethose offices ha"e cease&.

ph 2@>JB22 84(<9*> So then ye are no more strangers and so4ourners, but ye are fellowciti8ens with thesaints, and of the household of God, +? being built upon the foundation of the apostlesand prophets, Christ 9esus himself being the chief corner stone" +* in whom eachseveral building, fitly framed together, groweth into a holy temple in the %ord" ++ in

whom ye also are builded together for a habitation of God in the Spirit.My prolem with that is two fol&. First, is the $horse teeth% reality chec# that ) happe! to ha"emet true apostles a!& prophets that meet all the 5ilical criteria for such. (eco!&, thatargume!t is e!tirely focuse& o! the M4CO applicatio! a!& ig!ores all the other possilespirals.

For e1ample, ca! 3esus Christ e the chief cor!ersto!e i! my lifeG /es. )! my co!gregatio!G/es. )! the 5o&y of Christ i! my cityG /es. )! the U!i"ersal ChurchG /es. Ca! 'e e all ofthose thi!gs at the same timeG /es. 'e is "ery "ersatile. 5ut we are huma! a!& it mayre*uire multiple people to fulfill all those roles o! each of the &iffere!t $legs% of the spiral.

(o which $church% is it that we are uil&i!g upo! the fou!&atio! of the apostles a!& prophetsG 4ll of them. Does the U!i"ersal Church !ee& a fou!&atio! lai& other tha! that lai& y the 4postles a!& Prophets of the First ChurchG -o. 5ut is the role of the apostle as o!e that isse!t to pla!t a!& to !urture a!& to ser"e still "ali& to&ayG /es. )s there still a !ee& for theprophet that spea#s the applicatio! of o&s =or& to the si!ful!ess of a society a!& calls fortheir repe!ta!ceG /es. 4re there people whom o& has calle& a!& touche& who ha"e &o!ethat throughout historyG /es. Does it re*uire fresh, e1traB5ilical re"elatio! i! or&er to e aprophet or apostleG -o, !ot !ecessarily. (houl& they ha"e authority to a&& to the ca!o! 8the5ile9G -o. Ca! the or& help them to see somethi!g that is i! the =or&, ut theirco!temporaries ha"e misse& a!& !ee& to hearG /es. 'ow woul& 'e tell them thatG 5yre"elatio! from the 'oly (pirit.

Prophecy is still for to&ay ecause the =or& of o& says that the testimo!y of 3esus )( thespirit of prophecy. 8e". >J@>09 U!less 3esus has cease& or 'is testimo!y has cease&, the!whe! we re"eal to people 'is !ature a!& tell 'is story, we are prophecyi!g. This may erea&i!g the =or& to them or it may e showi!g them the applicatio! of it to their ow! li"es. Orit may e spea#i!g a perso!al wor& to them that 'e wa!ts them to hear aout how 'e wa!tsto e i!"ol"e& i! their li"es. =hate"er it is, it will li!e up with (cripture if its from 'im.

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(ai& a!other way, my argume!t is that the o!ly 5ilical mo&el for the local church is the CityChurch. O!e auto!omous o&y per tow!. ) ca! fi!& !o other mo&el. ) ca! fi!& !o 5ilical

6ustificatio! for &e!omi!atio!s or hierarchical structures that e1cee& o!e tow! i! sie. ) ca!fi!& asolutely !o 6ustificatio! for a popish oma! mo&el that ele"ates o!e ma! to e o&smouthpiece a!& ha"e autocratic authority to &irect the affairs of ma!y. The Church of3erusalem allows for !o further &i"isio! withi! it. They are to e o!e o&y withi! each locality

a!& they are to e e!tirely i!&epe!&e!t of ao&icea or phesus or (myr!a or 4!tioch or a!yother. They are sisters, ut !o!e ca! lor& it o"er a!other. There is !o $5ishop of 4sia Mi!or% +the letters i! e"elatio! are to each i!&epe!&e!t $e##lesia% or local o&y of $those who arecalle& out%.

4!& i! each tow!, the or& se!t apostles a!& prophets, !ot 6ust to lay &ow! the origi!alfou!&atio!, ut also to ser"e a!& to correct a!& to impart a!& to teach a!& to gi"e perso!alwor&s of prophecy that &i&!t ha"e ca!o!ical implicatio!s ut were C)T)C4/ importa!t toa particular i!&i"i&ual. 84cts 2>@>>9 Paul was se!t ac# to places he ha& pre"iously ee!, !otto lay a fou!&atio! other tha! what he ha& alrea&y lai&, ut to ma#e correctio!s or tostre!gthe! or to e!courage. Di& o& se!& 4postles to places to &o thi!gs OT' T'4- reBlay a fou!&atio!G /es. Di& o& se!& 4postles sometimes to show people that they ha&

accepte& a!other 3esus a!& were uil&i!g i!correctlyG /es. =hy is!t that still !ee&e&to&ayG 4re our 5o&ies all o! the right fou!&atio!sG 4re a!y of us preachi!g a!other 3esusG

There were 4postles with a capital $4%. There were o!ly a ha!&ful 8>2QPaul9 a!& they ha& aspecific purpose a!& seaso!. They sit arou!& the thro!e of o& a!& are special for a host ofreaso!s, i!clu&i!g their sufferi!g for 'is sa#e. They are go!e from the earth. 5ut that &oes!tmea! that the office !ecessarily stoppe&. There were lower case $a% apostles ac#!owle&ge&i! the =or& + li#e u#e a!& 3oh! Mar# a!& 5ar!aas a!& 3u!ia + more tha! twe!ty of them.

4!& to&ay there are still lower case $a% apostles who ser"e a!& suffer a!& pla!t a!& mi!istera!& weep a!& are #!ow! y their ha"i!g see! 3esus, y their oe&ie!ce, y their crucifyi!g oftheir flesh, y their lo"e, a!& y their frea#ishly high gifts of faith.

(ai& a!other way, if the purpose of the Prophets was to estalish the ca!o! 85ile9 a!& thefou!&atio! of the Church, ut there were prophets at the time that were clearly prophets ut&o!t seem to ha"e ha& a!y impact or applicatio! ca!o!ically, the! what were they &oi!gthereG 4gaus a!& Philips &aughters a!& 4!a!ias a!& ma!y others seem to ha"e playe&e!tirely peripheral a!& local roles a!& ha& !o ca!o!ical sig!ifica!ce. )f they were arou!&the!, why ca!t they e arou!& !owG )f the o!ly purpose of apostles a!& prophets was to laythe fou!&atio! for T' U!i"ersal Church, tha! how &o we e1plai! those that the 5ilerecog!ies as apostles a!& prophets ut &i&!t ha"e a gloal impactG

4!& if they were o!ly there to estalish the Church, the! what are they &oi!g i! the Ol&Testame!tG )f the 'oly (pirit was &oi!g T'- the same stuff 'e &i& 4FT Pe!tecost, the!

why e1actly &o we thi!# it !ee&e& to stopG 4!& which apostles a!& prophets e1actly was itthat lai& the fou!&atio! for the ChurchG Da!iel, Da"i&, Moses, Peter, PaulG /es. 4!& othersthat !e"er got their !ames i! there at all, ut playe& pi"otal roles i! historically setti!g thestage or plowi!g the grou!&.

My argume!t is that the City Church is the thi!g a!& that each o!e re*uires ei!g set o! theproper fou!&atio! a!& ei!g estalishe& so that it ca! e uilt up. The true apostles a!&






prophets of to&ay estalish the same fou!&atio! as &i& the 4postles + Christ a!& 'imcrucifie&. They uil& o! right &octri!e a!& they uil& o! lo"e. They estalish the local 5o&ythrough harmo!y a!& prayer a!& patie!t lo!gBsufferi!g a!& much afflictio!. They use theirmighty weapo!s of war to pull &ow! pri!cipalities a!& powers a!& spiritual wic#e&!ess i! highplaces. They &o !ot lea& forcily, they are !ot autocrats, they &o !ot e!force a!ythi!g + theyare gifts to the churches a!& they ser"e a!& show y their li"es how its to e &o!e. 4!& sig!s

a!& wo!&ers co!firm them to the &egree that the or& wills. The est sig!s a!& wo!&ers arera&ically tra!sforme& li"es of free&om a!& peace a!& 6oy, !ot the aility to pre&ict a!earth*ua#e or a &rought.

/ou ca! rea& more o! that [email protected]:cityRchurchR6ustificatio!.htm

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4re people still getti!g raise& from the &ea& to&ayG /ou &eci&e.http@::www.shepher&ser"e.org:specialRreports:&a!ielRmai!.htm

Does o& &o miracles i! 4mericaG Ca! o& mo"e through #i&s at a footall gameGhttp@::;i!g&omPowerO!The(treet.logspot.com

Muslims all o"er the worl& are ha"i!g &reams a!& "isio!s of 3esus.http@::isaalmasih.!et:isa:&reamsofisa.html

O!e of ma!y e!cou!ters with o& &ocume!te& here@

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My perso!al e1perie!ce i!clu&es four a!& a half mo!ths i! a "a! &ri"i!g >7,00Q miles toH2 states e!tirely &epe!&e!t o! the "oice of o& for e"ery &irectio!, e"ery &ollar, a!& e"eryappoi!tme!t. 'e was always faithful a!& &aily miracles resulte&, !ot o!ly of &i"i!eappoi!tme!ts all o"er the cou!try, ut also physical heali!gs, &eli"era!ce of oppressio!s ofall #i!&s, impartatio! of gifts to me a!& thru me, spiritual warfare of all #i!&s, a!& e"e!playful fu! time with the or& whe! 'e met some of my wa!ts a!& !ot 6ust my !ee&s. O!eof the stops o! my trip was here B http@::www.c!.com:c!!ews:C=-:>02>0#e!tuc#y.asp1

'ere is a! e1ample of heali!g y a &e&icate& !ati"e missio!ary from ospel for 4sia@

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ea& the *The Hea)ely Ma+ y 'attaway a!& /u!. This oo# will mess you up5rother /u! faste& 7H &ays i! a Chi!ese priso! without foo& or water, torture&, eate!,ro#e!. 4-D miraculously heale&, ro#e! out of priso!, gi"e! 5iles y Commu!ist priso!officials, a!gelic protectio!, escape& from the cou!try a!& more. This #i!& of stuff iscommo! i! the persecute& church. 8'owe"er, it is rare i! the comfy, fat, lay church.9


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http://www.fellowshipofthemartyrs.com/pdf/normal%20christian%20church_all.pdf

http://www.shepherdserve.org/special_reports/daniel_main.htm

http://kingdompoweronthestreet.blogspot.com/

http://isaalmasih.net/isa/dreamsofisa.html

http://www.jesus.org.uk/ja/mag_sp2007_dream.shtml

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http://www.gfa.org/video-singham


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http://www.fellowshipofthemartyrs.com/pdf/normal%20christian%20church_all.pdf

http://www.shepherdserve.org/special_reports/daniel_main.htm

http://kingdompoweronthestreet.blogspot.com/

http://isaalmasih.net/isa/dreamsofisa.html

http://www.jesus.org.uk/ja/mag_sp2007_dream.shtml

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Thirtee 4asy Ways to 5rie)e the Holy Spirit

● Tell 'im whe! to show up a!& whe! to lea"e. (che&ule 'is appeara!ces a!& ma#esure e"eryo!e #!ows that you ha"e co!trol of 'is rei!s so that 'e will e go!e i! timefor e"eryo!e to get to (u!&ay lu!ch o! time.

●

et someo&y that is!t a!oi!te& a!& is!t suppose& to e spea#i!g ru! the show.● Tell o& how great 'e is a!& how much you lo"e a!& a&ore 'im a!& si!g so!gs to

'im while you completely ig!ore all the lee&i!g people arou!& you. Tell them to callthe office if they wa!t to tal# to someo!e, ut &o!t &isrupt the carefully pla!!e&prese!tatio! that was sche&ule& for this time perio&.

● Di"i&e the 5o&y of Christ up i!to smaller a!& smaller pieces a!& fill it with &isse!sio!,factio!s, &i"isio!, selfish amitio!, strife, *uarreli!g, etc. Thats a sure fire way to getthe e!tle Do"e to ta#e off.

● Tell 'im what 'e ca! a!& ca!t &o. 5e asolutely positi"e that you #!ow how 'eoperates a!& ma#e sure a!& tell e"eryo!e that you ha"e all the a!swers. The!program a!& pla! a!& sche&ule e"erythi!g i! your ow! power a!& &o!t lea"e 'im a!yroom 8or a!y i!"itatio!9 to show up.

● i"e lip ser"ice to wa!ti!g 'im to show up, ut &o!t really mea! it or get out of 'isway. )f 'e &oes actually try to rea# through, s*uelch it as fast as you ca!. Prayfer"e!tly that the or& woul& $sha#e thi!gs up% B ut whe! 'e &oes, &e!y it was 'ima!& go ac# to sleep.

● Ca!cel your prayer meeti!gs ecause people are o! their faces cryi!g out to the or&a!& its $creepy%. =e !ee& people to e '4PP/ i! church )ts 6ust !ot $e! "ogue% toha"e people cryi!g all the time.

● Co!"i!ce the people that worshipi!g the 'oly (pirit a!& getti!g ')M to come is thegoal. (ee# ma!ifestatio!s a!& &isplays of emotio!ality ao"e all else. 8=e DO wa!t'im to show up + ut as a co!firmi!g si&e effect of fact that the Truth is ei!g spo#e!a!& the =or& of o& is ei!g sprea& a!& people are ei!g tra!sforme& + !ot as thewhole poi!t of the meeti!g so that we ca! 6ust all lay arou!& a!& giggle.9

● Tell people that somethi!g glorious that 'e &i& was!t actually 'im.

● Ta#e all of the spiritual assets that the or& has gi"e! you a!& hoar& them a!& &o!tshare with a!yo&y + a!& ma#e sure you let e"eryo!e #!ow that you are special.

● Ma#e sure that o!ly people with the proper &egrees a!& certificatio!s from appro"e&

structures a!& systems of me! are allowe& to spea#. =hate"er you &o, &o!t let theperso! there that has the iggest cup of 3esus say a!ythi!g

● ie to the people i! your co!gregatio! aout spiritual gifts. Maye e"e! pulicly &e!ythat /OU spea# i! to!gues + whe! you actually &o. Thatll ma#e 'im lea"e for sure.

● Ma#e it all aout /OU. /our ;i!g&om, /our Power, /our lory, Fore"er. 4me!.

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What 'o " 'o Now?

)f you"e ee! grie"i!g 'im, #!oc# it off a!& say youre sorry. 4s# 'im to show you how to#eep from &oi!g it a!ymore. =ait o! the or& + &o!t try to fill all the &ea& air with /OU.

)f you !ee& more 'oly (pirit tha! you"e got, rea& 4ppe!&i1 4 a!& it will wal# you through

more aout how to get u!clogge& a!& get your cup full a!& #eep it full all the time.

)f you rea& this whole thi!g a!& !e"er &isagree& with me o! a!ythi!g, you were proaly o!oar& all alo!g a!& )m 6ust preachi!g to the choir a!& you shoul& ha"e proaly put it &ow!a!& go!e out a!& tol& someo!e aout 3esus &uri!g this whole time you"e ee! rea&i!gsomethi!g that you alrea&y #!ew. 4re you sure o& tol& you to rea& thisG 83ust chec#i!g.9

)f you are really, 4/ hu!gry for more 3esus a!& you &o!t care what it ta#es to get morea!& youre willi!g to ha"e 'im #ill all the parts of you that are i! 'is way, you might co!si&erprayi!g somethi!g li#e this@

85ut ) war! you i! the stro!gest possile terms, 'e =) ta#e you seriously a!& it =) hurt.9

'ear Bord/ " trust ou. " ow ou wo(t push it too far. " ow ou(ll -et me throu-haythi-. "(m sorry for all the ways "()e limited ou ad failed to o%ey ouristructios. "(m sorry for ha)i- -rie)ed the Holy Spirit o)er ad o)er %y -oi- myow way. " ow there is a lot of %lood o my head. lease for-i)e me ad wash meclea. 2d so that " do(t do aythi- lie this e)er a-ai/ please do whate)er ouha)e to do to me so that "(ll %e so Eammed/ paced full of >esus that othi- else cafit. 2ythi- i me that is resisti- ou i ay way/ please shred it/ ill it/ rip it/ %ur it Dif " do(t ow how to lay it dow/ the tear it out of my -rip. >ust do whate)er ouha)e to do. " do(t care what it costs/ " do(t care how much it hurts/ Eust crucify all the

pieces of me that are i our way. 2d " ow ou may ha)e to tur up the refii- firepretty hi-h to -et me fiished cooi-/ so "(m asi- ou to Eust i-ore me completelywhe " %a- o the door of the o)e ad as ou to tur it dow. 'ial it all the way upad -et this turey doe! lease/ 2%%a. " mea it. There(s a war ad " wat to %e fullyready. 5et me out of :oot Camp. 'o whate)er ou ha)e to do ad -et me ready forwar. " wat to see the %ad -uys ad " wat to ha)e the spiritual authority to crush them." eed wisdom ad " eed more of our Spirit ad our lo)e. " wat ou to -et all the-lory. "t(s our i-dom/ our power/ our -lory D fore)er. lease/ Bord/ do whate)eryou ha)e to do with me. ou ca ha)e all my stuff/ all my dreams/ all my relatioships." put it 2BB o the altar. Ha)e our way/ Bord. " ow this prayer is iside our will/ so" ow ou(re -oi- to aswer it. >ust do(t let -o of my had whe it hurts. lease/

Father. " the Name of >esus Christ my Bord. 2me.

)f we ca! help you, let us #!ow. )f youre suppose& to help us, let us #!ow. =e lo"e you a!&were !ot goi!g to stop lo"i!g you !o matter what. fotmSfellowshipofthemartyrs.com

=e lo"e you. May the or& 3esus Christ richly less you i! whate"er way 'e thi!#s est.8=hich coul& i!clu&e a 21A to the si&e of the hea&. 5ut i! lo"e a!& 6ust for your ow! goo&.9


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Waa Hear The 9oice of 5od?from Doug Perry + poste& o! www.FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com

First/ what e7actly are we tali- a%out? 'oes really 5od spea to people today?/es. )! a whole u!ch of ways from a ge!tle !u&ge, to i!structio! through the =or&, to usi!g otherpeople a!& circumsta!ces to spea# to you, to se!&i!g &reams a!& "isio!s 8or a!gels9 + a!&:or e"e!co!"ersi!g &irectly with you.

ou ca hear 5od audi%ly ad co)erse with Him?! ouGre iddi-/ ri-ht?-ot #i&&i!g. /ou ca! asolutely tal# to o& a!& 'eNll tal# ac#. There are millio!s of people all o"erthe worl& that rely o! o& for co!sta!t &aily i!structio! o! all sorts of thi!gs. 5ut, thereNs a &iffere!ceetwee! heari!g o& au&ily 8with your !atural ears, outsi&e of your ow! hea&9 a!& heari!g the i!!er$still, small "oice%. )tNs pretty rare for o& to spea# to people au&ily 8li#e thu!&er9, ut there are ple!tyof fol#s out there that say theyN"e hear& 'im + a!& the e"i&e!ce is that o!ce they &i&, it cha!ge& themfore"er Ma!y of the house churches i! Chi!a are u!&er such persecutio! that they ca!Nt set a regular

time for meeti!g or e"e! tell each other whe! the meeti!g will e + they all 6ust pray a!& o& 'imselfsets the time a!& place a!& tells each to e there. This is totally for real a!& the irthright of e"eryelie"er

Wait ... people hear the 5od of the i)erse tell them stuff? Bie what tie to wear ad whetherto tur left or ri-ht? What Eo% to tae? What to ha)e for dier? Not Eust %i- stuff?(ure. The 5ile says, $)! all your ways ac#!owle&ge 'im a!& 'e will &irect your paths.% 8Pro". H@B?9=hat &o you thi!# $4 your ways% mea!sG 4!& how is 'e goi!g to &irect you if you ca!Nt hear 'imG

:ut my pastor said 5od doesGt tal to people lie that!'mmm. =ell, o& use& to tal# to people all the time i! the 5ile. =o!&er whe! 'e stoppe&G Di& 'esay 'e was goi!g to stopG )s!Nt 'e the same yester&ay, to&ay a!& fore"erG )f a!ythi!g, o!ce the 'oly

(pirit came i! 4cts 2, there were OT( more people tal#i!g to o& &irectly -e"er mi!& the M))O-(of people who you ha"e to co!clu&e are thoroughly a!& certifialy !uts + i!clu&i!g ma!y of the mosteffecti"e lea&ers of the church. )! or&er to sustai! that argume!t you ha"e all #i!&s of logic prolems.

Co!si&er thisI)F o& use& to tal# to people ut &oes!Nt !ow, T'- we must !ot !ee& to hear from 'im a!ymore.Ca! that eG 5y all measures weNre worse off tha! e"er. )f there is a war etwee! oo& a!& "il,weNre losi!g pretty a&ly right !ow a!& really &esperately !ee& to e getti!g comma!&s &irectly from'ea&*uarters, !ot from flawe& ma!Bma&e sources a!& tra&itio!Bsoa#e& i!terpretatio!s of (cripture

)F there is a attle etwee! oo& a!& "il, T'- who woul& e!efit most if the people o! the $oo&%si&e were tol& they coul&!Nt 4CTU4/ tal# to their Comma!&er i! ChiefG -ow, you #!ow the "il

si&e is asolutely clear to </O- that if you try to tal# to T') lea&ership you =) get a!a!swer 4 fast "e! Christia!s are afrai& to mess with Oui6a oar&s a!& call o! the !ames of&emo!s ecause somewhere i!si&e they elie"e somethi!g </ real will show up almost i!sta!tly.5ut at the same time, the forces of &ar#!ess wa!t us to uy that OU o& is mute Does!Nt that sou!&li#e somethi!g the s!a#e woul& say i! the ar&e!G Despite hu!&re&s of e1amples i! the 5ile that 'eis a"ailale a!& accessile all the time, we ha"e too ofte! ought the lie that o& is u!willi!g oru!ale to actually tal# to 'is chil&re!. )tNs a lie from the pit a!& weN"e ought i!to it for too lo!g.

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)F we recei"e the 'oly (pirit whe! we are sa"e&, T'- >:H of the o&hea& is li"i!g )-()D of us allthe time 8) 3oh! A@>HB>79 5ut 'e &oes!Nt ha"e a!ythi!g to sayG 'eNs !ot i!tereste& i! our &ailyacti"itiesG o&Ns !ot ig e!ough to #!ow what we shoul& ha"e for lu!chG 'e #!ows the hairs o! ourhea& a!& mo!itors our e"ery comi!g a!& goi!g, ut has !o opi!io! aout it or &esire to gi"e usa&"iceG =hat #i!& of Father is thatG )F weNre &ea& a!& itNs Christ i! us that li"es, T'- shoul&!Nt 'e ru!!i!g the showG 8oma!s 7@AB?9

:ut my pastor says e)e H4 doesGt hear 5od lie that!O#, well, you see, Matthew >K@>K says that, $what you i!& o! earth will e ou!& i! hea"e! a!& whatyou loose o! earth will e loose& i! hea"e!.% )t goes o! to say that if two of you o! earth agree aouta!ythi!g you as# for, it will e &o!e for you y the Father i! hea"e!. 8". >J9 (o, coul& it e that weha"e whole groups of Christia!s that ha"e agree& that o& &oes!Nt tal# to peopleG 4!& if they wereco!"i!ce& of that, &o!Nt those "erses say that o& will ho!or itG (o maye the prolem is that if youNreco!"i!ce& o& =O-NT tal# to you that way, 'e proaly wo!Nt. 4!& who woul& you lameG ThepastorG Proaly !ot + i! fair!ess, we gotta lay it at the feet of the s!a#e a!& the ge!eratio!s oftra&itio! that ha"e ee! uilt up to #eep us from ei!g truly $(piritBle&%.

There coul& also e other prolems that woul& #eep a perso! from heari!g o&. O!e possiility is thattheyNre o! the wro!g team B e"e! if they thi!# theyre !ot. /ou #!ow its possile to ma#e up your ow!

3esus a!& youll get a respo!se from that o!e aout as goo& as if you were prayi!g to a stic# ofwoo&. 4!other is that they ha"e u!repe!te& si! that sta!&s etwee! them a!& o& + a!& o& hasco!"icte& them of it so ma!y times that 'es 6ust gi"e! up tryi!g to tal# to them.

Oh, a!& y the way, youNre goi!g to ha"e to get o"er that thi!g aout the pastor ei!g more $holy%tha! you. This is a o!eBo!Bo!e relatio!ship with 3esus youNre suppose& to ha"e. /ou ca!Nt &o it ypro1y through the guy that gets pai& to hear o& 8especially if he a&mits heNs -OT heari!g o&9. =eare 4 the Church. =e are 4C' temples that hol& o&Ns (pirit. 4!y o!e of us that are a&opte&so!s of o& ha"e the aility to petitio! the Thro!e &irectly a!& see# 'is face. o& lo"es each + i! fact,'eNs especially fo!& of those that come to 'im with faith li#e little chil&re!. (ometimes pastors ha"e ahar& time with that.

This is Eust cray! How could this %e true ad " e)er ew it %efore? WouldGt some%ody ha)etold me?=ell, ) thi!# you u!&erestimate the &amage the e!emy has &o!e a!& how lo!g heNs ee! plotti!g this.The "ast ma6ority of the church i! the =est &oes!Nt li"e the $!ormal% Christia! life. That is, 5ilicallyspea#i!g, weNre to e full of power a!& might, weNre to e free of the o!&age of si!, weNre to -OTco!form to the worl&, weNre to e &ea& to oursel"es, weNre to e O- 5o&y a!& lo"i!g a!& ser"i!geach other with all our heart. ThatNs 6ust a few. Ca! you see how far away from that we actually are asa $church%G =eNre !ot e"e! CO( There MU(T e somethi!g missi!g. (omeo&y left somethi!gout )t has to e this + o& is suppose& to e &irecti!g you a!& youNre suppose& to e liste!i!g a!&O5/)-. -ow ... who woul& e!efit most from us lea"i!g that little piece outG /ep, the guy i! thelac# hat.

-ow, what &o you thi!# a close e!cou!ter co!"ersatio!ally with the o& of the U!i"erse might &o to aperso!G Trust me, it woul& cha!ge e"erythi!g. )t woul& show them the power of the relatio!ship theyha"e as a&opte& so!s, they woul& lose all fear, they woul& sacrifice a!ythi!g to #eep heari!g 'im,they woul& oey a!& wal# i! ')( ways, they woul& #!ow 8really ;-O=9 that o& 'imself li"es )-them a!& they woul& wa!t more of 'im, they woul& &o the thi!gs o! ')( heart + li#e fee&i!g thehu!gry, clothi!g the !a#e&, sa"i!g the lost. Proaly woul& e a lot fewer cha!&eliers i! thesa!ctuaries. 8Proaly e a lot fewer sa!ctuaries, for that matter.9

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(o, if this is a war etwee! oo& a!& "il, woul&!Nt our most imme&iate a!& urge!t !ee& e to getpeople to where they ca! hear clear, timely, reliale comma!&s from 'ea&*uartersG )f you ha"e a guyi! 5asic Trai!i!g that refuses to liste! to the Drill (argea!t a!& &oes his ow! thi!g, woul&!Nt you wa!tto lea"e him at homeG 'eNs 6ust goi!g to get himself #ille& whe! the e!emy starts shooti!g a!&lea&ership says DUC;N a!& he ca!Nt or wo!Nt hear them. 'eNs !o goo& to a!yo&y. Maye he coul&e a supply cler# + ut he really shoul&!Nt e o! the fro!t li!es.

:ut we ha)e the :i%le. 5odGs Word is what we are to use to direct our paths!O#, sure. -ot got a!ythi!g a& to say aout the =or& "erythi!g o& tells us to &o will li!e up with'is ow! =or&. 5ut !o matter how well you #!ow the 5ile, it ca!Nt accommo&ate for e"ery possilesituatio! a!& what you shoul& &o. ThereNs lots of stuff !ot co"ere& i! there + li#e which of these two

6os o& wa!ts me to ta#e. 4!& thereNs stuff i! there that me! ha"e ee! argui!g aout for ce!turieswithout e"er getti!g agreeme!t. ots of waste& time tryi!g to figure out how ma!y a!gels ca! &a!ceo! the hea& of a pi!. 85y the way, which si&e e!efits most whe! o&Ns people fight o"er stupi& stuffG/ou getti!g the ha!g of this yetG9

Thi!# of it li#e this. /ouNre i! the 4rmy a!& they gi"e you a Ma!ual. 4ll #i!&s of stuff is co"ere& i! there + what to wear, how to salute, how the weapo!s wor#, how to sur"i"e i! a attle, what to eat i! theforest, how the chai! of comma!& wor#s, e"e! what the e!emy is li#e a!& how to resist them + thereNs

e"e! stuff i! there aout what the e!emy =) DO o!e &ay, whether they li#e it or !ot )tNs a 4/goo& Ma!ual + i! fact, itNs i!spire& y o& )t co"ers a! amai!g array of stuff a!& coul& proalyha!&le most a!y situatio!. (o woul& the Drill (argea!t as# you to rea& it, maye e"e! memorie it +a!& the! se!& you i!to attle with !othi!g 5UT thatG 4re you goi!g to e ale to #!ow what to &owhe! the ullets start flyi!gG =hat aout group strategy a!& &eployme!t of forces a!& a!ticipati!ge!emy mo"eme!tsG )s the Ma!ual goi!g to accommo&ate for e"ery possile sce!ario o! a rapi&lycha!gi!g attlefiel&G 4re you sure youNre i!terpreti!g it rightG )s there time i! the fo1hole to e argui!gwith other sol&iers that are rea&i!g it &iffere!tlyG =hat if some i&iot pulishe& li#e T=-T/ &iffere!ttra!slatio!s a!& paraphrases of the Ma!ualG The! whatG )s!Nt there a chai! of comma!&G )s!Nt theresomeo&y i! charge calli!g the shots thatNs suppose& to tell you what to &o !e1tG 4re!Nt you suppose&to e liste!i!g a!& O5/)-G =a!t to go i!to attle without the Ma!ualG -o. =a!t to rely o! it alo!ewhe! you ha"e other resources a"ailaleG -o. =a!t to ta#e a! or&er from someo&y that goes

agai!st the Ma!ualG -o. =he! the ullets start flyi!g, &o you wa!t to hear perso!ally a!& &irectly from'ea&*uarters so that you ca! #!ow that help is comi!g or call i! a! air stri#eG /ou etcha

" doGt ow. This is id of scary. What if " hear wro-? What if itGs the eemy messi- withme? May%e this is all i your mid.=ow ThatNs a whole mess of stuff. etNs try this o!e at a time.

aybe its all in your mind.=ell, itNs !ot 6ust me. ThereNs hu!&re&s of millio!s li#e me that hear o&. )! fact, most of the growth i!the Church worl&wi&e is ecause of those people. The $mai!li!e% &e!omi!atio!s are shri!#i!g. )tNs the(piritBle& re"olutio!aries that are e1plo&i!g i!to !ew territories a!& pushi!g ac# the &ar#!ess.

O#, letNs try it from the opposite &irectio!. )t all su!# i! for me o!e &ay whe! it struc# me that sata!!e"er creates a!ythi!g + he 6ust ma#es wea# copies of whate"er o& is &oi!g. 'eNs a liar a!& a&ecei"er a!& a fa#e. (o ... while it may seem farBfetche&, most fol#s 8e"e! Christia!s9 will a&mit thate"il is a real force i! the worl& a!& the super!atural is real. 8The 5ile "erifies repeate&ly that witchesa!& me&iums a!& sorcery are real, y the way ... a!& that youNre hea&e& for hell if mess with them. +Deut >K@>0B>2, Col. @209 The e!emy has psychics a!& me&iums a!& astral pro6ectio! a!& Oui6aoar&s a!& &emo!s a!& omies a!& spells a!& curses.

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(o whereNs OU stuffG )f this is a war, why &oes o!ly o!e si&e get cool weapo!sG =as my churchlea"i!g out importa!t stuff that ) !ee&e& for warfareG 5ecause i! the first ce!tury they ha& amai!gweapo!s a!& &efe!ses a"ailale to them. They ha& the 'oly (pirit telli!g them stuff they woul&!Ntha"e #!ow! 84cts @>B>>9, they ha& people heari!g from o& 84cts >H@29, they ha& people writi!g stuffas o& &ictate& 8e".9, they were caught up i! the (pirit to hea"e! 82 Cori!. >2@2BA9, they ha& &reamsa!& "isio!s 84cts >0@JB2H9, they saw a!gels 84cts >29, they saw 3esus 'imself 84cts J@>B229, they castout &emo!s 84cts >?@>?B>K9, they were itte! y &ea&ly s!a#es a!& &i&!Nt &ie 84cts 2K@>B>09, they

spo#e i! other la!guages of me! a!& of a!gels 84cts 2, ) Cori!. >2 more9, they heale& people 84cts@>9, they praye& a!& miracles happe!e& 84cts @>2, 4cts >29 + e"e! teleportatio! 8or as we prefer +$theoportatio!% B 4cts K@HJ9 a!& they raise& the &ea& 84cts J@H2BA29 They e"e! ha& people who wereagai!st them &rop &ea& 84cts @>B>>9 or go li!& 84cts >H@?B>29 + o! comma!& 84!& thatNs 6ust O-refere!ce for each There are lots more9

-ow, the argume!t is that all that e!&e& whe! the 5ile was &o!e ei!g writte! + ut it &i&!Nt e!& forthe other team, so how come 6ust all OU cool stuff got ta#e! awayG =oul&!Nt it ha"e really e!efite&the e!emy a OT to sprea& that story arou!& for a couple thousa!& yearsG Do you seeG This is !o#i!& of way to fight a war There MU(T e stuff weN"e ee! lea"i!g out The e!emy has us twiste& upi!to a thousa!& pieces 8HH,000Q &e!omi!atio!s to e specific9 a!& we ca!Nt (T4-D ecause weNre!ot O- 5o&y. 5ecause of all the argui!g o"er stupi& stuff + which we woul& -< ha"e &o!e if we

ha& all ee! heari!g the "oice of o& perso!ally a!& relialy a!& wal#i!g i! the ifts

&his is !ind of scary.-o #i&&i!g )tNs the iggest thi!g e"er i! your life That the o& of the U!i"erse wa!ts to e i!timatelyi!"ol"e& i! e"erythi!g you &o a!& say a!& eat a!& wear a!& thi!#. ThatNs massi"ely scary 4!& yet,we ca! !e"er ha"e peace a!& 6oy a!& "ictory u!til we ha"e relatio!ship with 3esus a!& are le& y 'is'oly (pirit. /ou see, u!&er our ow! power, we 6ust screw e"erythi!g up. There has !e"er ee! a!ystrategy of Ma! that has le& to a!ythi!g goo& i! the lo!g ru!. Oh, it might wor# for a little while, utyou get e!ough si!ful people i!"ol"e& i! it, a&& mo!ey, mi1 i! a little sata! + a!& itNs toast. Or worse,you get Commu!ism or Fascism or somethi!g a!& millio!s of people &ie. There are 6ust two optio!s +if itNs of Ma! it will fail a!& if itNs of o& !othi!g ca! sta!& agai!st it. (i!ce the $church% i! 4merica isfaili!g, someo&y other tha! o& must e i! charge. (ee a logic prolem thereG

4!yway, yes, itNs scary. 5ut what a payoff To wal# i! holi!ess ecause o& 'imself is fighti!g off thetemptatio!s a!& s!ares of the e!emy, to hear 'im all the time a!& get &irectio! o! a!ythi!g a!&e"erythi!g, to #!ow that 'e is completely a!& totally i! charge at all times i! e"ery situatio!. 'ow areyou goi!g to fi!& peace =)T'OUT heari!g from o&G 'ow is what you ha"e -O= wor#i!g for youG

4!& heari!g 'is "oice is !ot e"e! a )FT of the (pirit )tNs 6ust a! automatic for e"ery elie"er =eha"e!Nt e"e! tal#e& aout prophecy a!& &iscer!me!t of spirits a!& #!owle&ge a!& wis&om a!&to!gues a!& heali!g a!& all the other ifts o& gi"es 'is chil&re! Trust me, the payoff is amai!g,ut itNs goi!g to cost you e"erythi!g + ut e"erythi!g you T')-; you ha"e is!t yours a!yway, so whocares

3hat if I hear wrong- 3hat if the enemy is messing with me-=ell sure, that ca! happe!. 'eNs certai!ly goi!g to try to co!fuse a!& frustrate you. =e are specificallyi!structe&, $&o !ot elie"e e"ery spirit, ut test the spirits to see whether they are from o& 8> 3oh!A@>9. That MU(T mea! that other spirits are pote!tially messi!g with us, a!& si!ce there is !oi!&icatio! that this e!&e& whe! the 5ile was complete&, the! there must still e &emo!s putti!gthoughts i!to our hea&s. 4!& if there are still &emo!s putti!g thoughts i!to our hea&s, the! we muststill ha"e a !ee& to test a!& see if they are from o&. 4!& if theyNre -OT from o&, the! we resistthem a!& they flee. 5ut it must also mea! that o!e of the possiilities is that the spirit weNre heari!g )(from o& 84gai!, pro"i!g the poi!t that o& spea#s to us.9

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/ou see > 3oh! A goes o! i! "erses 2 a!& H to lay out how you ca! #!ow what it is that is tal#i!g toyou a!& from where it comes, '&his is how you can recogni8e the Spirit of God 2very spirit thatac!nowledges that 9esus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does notac!nowledge 9esus is not from God. &his is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is comingand even now is already in the world.)

=he! we get a thought i! our hea& we ha"e to figure out who it is. There are o!ly three choices@ /ou,

o& or the e!emy. (ometimes other people tell us stuff, ut theyNre still playi!g to o!e of the three.=eNre to ri!g e"ery thought i!to oe&ie!ce with Christ 8a!& the =or&9. That mea!s our ow! thoughtsthat are out of li!e 4-D the o!es i!serte& y the e!emy.

Coul& you screw it upG (ure. Particularly if the "oices are </ s!ea#y. =hich they will e ecause&emo!s are smarter tha! us a!& #!ow the huma! co!&itio! "ery well after all these years of torturi!ga!& twisti!g us. =ithout o& fighti!g for you, you ha"e!Nt got a cha!ce. /ou ha"e to e co!sta!tly o!guar&, co!sta!tly armore&Bup a!& e1pecti!g a!ythi!g from a!y &irectio!.

O@. "(m -etti- that it(s possi%le/ %ut "(m -oi- to ha)e to hear Him for myself. "(m willi- to try.What do we do?=ell the first thi!g is to as# the or& to show you a!ythi!g that sta!&s i! the way etwee! you a!&'im. )ts li#e thisI

The poi!t of the church comi!g together shoul& e so that we ca! crucify pieces of oursel"es so that Christ i! usca! li"e. (ai& a!other way, its to help each other i&e!tify the thi!gs that sta!& etwee! us a!& 3esus a!& pluc#them out. The most commo! thi!g we put i! the way is our elief that o& wo!t tal# to us. Thats got to go )fyou &o!t thi!# 'es a i"i!g o& a!& acti"e a!& ale to spea# a!& &esiri!g relatio!ship with you, the! youregoi!g to ha"e to lay that &ow!. O!e of the other possiilities is that youre worshippi!g the =O- 3esus. Paulsai& that woul& happe!, that someo!e woul& come preachi!g a!other 3esus a!& people woul& accept it. )ts "erysimpleI if you ma#e up your ow! 3esus, &o!t e1pect a! a!swer whe! you pray ProsperityB3esus, merge!cyBO!lyB3esus, -otBVuiteB4sBoo&B4sBTheB<irgi!BMaryB3esus, ifeguar&B3esus, a!& a illio! others are all M4D

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UP. )f you ma#e your ow! go& from scratch, e1pect aout as much respo!se as if you were prayi!g to a stic#.8)saiah AA@?B20I Deut. A@2K9 Those are -OT 5ile 3esus B who &oes!t li#e to e toye& with a!& put i! a o1.Other thi!gs i! the way are a relia!ce o! someo!e else for your holi!ess or co!!ectio! to o& 8Pastor, wife,mother, etc.9. Thats got to stop. This is a O-Bo!BO- relatio!ship with 3esus youre suppose& to e ha"i!g.-oo&y is goi!g to &o it for you. Other pipeli!e loc#ages i!clu&e a&&ictio!, pri&e, selfish!ess, itter!ess, a!ger,lai!ess, fear, lo"e of mo!ey a!& so ma!y others that #eep us from e1perie!ci!g the full!ess that is )- Christ.

4s# the or& to show you what is i! the way a!& 'e is faithful to 4=4/( &o that if youll liste!. 4s# some other

fol#s to pray with you if possile a!& 6ust pray i! agreeme!t that the or& will ma#e 'imself "ery clear to youaout what to &o !e1t.

'eres a!other illustratio! that may help. =e all ha"e a cup. ots of "erses i! the 5ile aout that B 6ars of clay,wi!es#i!s, "essels, "ials, ottles, owls, etc. (o the *uestio! is, =hats i! your cupG

How the Cups wor;

5ecause of our falle! !ature a!& the fact that sata! ow!s us, we all start out with 6ust Us a!& (i! i! our cups. 4t some poi!t, if were luc#y, we get sa"e& B which really 6ust mea!s we a&mit we !ee& o& a!& 'e sta!&s i!the gap etwee! /OU a!& ()- a!& starts telli!g you to get it out of there. The =orl& is always wor#i!g to foilthe pla!s of o&. (i!ce they ca!t s!atch /OU out of the ha!& of 3esus, the e!emy 6ust !eutralies us y#eepi!g us a co!sta!t sla"e to si!. The est metho& is to sha#e the whole thi!g up li#e "i!aigrette so you ca!tslow &ow! lo!g e!ough to figure out whats really wro!g. "er feel shoo# up li#e thatG

=hat prayer is for is to settle out the layers real fast. )f you hear the 'oly (pirit a!& oey, youll &isplace the ()-with more o&. )f you ca! e so full of 3esus that !othi!g else will fit a!ymore, the! you ca! &isplace the ()-.5ut this is a D4)/ thi!g, !ot o!ce a!& for all. 'es our Daily 5rea&. =e !ee& to e full of 3esus all the time.

5ut if you ca! get the re& stuff out, the 5ile says The steps of a righteous ma! are or&ere& efore him. (o'ell start ru!!i!g your life for you. =hich is etter a!yway, ecause the /OU i! your cup really has !o i&ea whatits &oi!g. "e!tually the 'oly (pirit will loo# at the /OU i! your cup a!& start pouri!g that out, too )f you ca!wal# i! it a!& e a goo& stewar&, 'ell gi"e you a igger cup full of 'im 8e1pa!& your territory, e1te!& your te!t,etc.9. The!, e"e! if theres 6ust as much of /OU as efore, theres lots more of ')M, so the ala!ce of powerstarts shifti!g more a!& more. )f you wa!t your ('4DO= to heal people li#e Peters i! 4cts, you etter ha"e acup li#e a! oil ta!#er a!& it etter e full of lue stuff






)f the prayer of a righteous ma! a"aileth much, the prayer of a $slightly righteous% ma! a"aileth practically!othi!g. )f youre !ot ei!g oe&ie!t to ')M, why is ' goi!g to a!swer your prayersG )f theres re& stuff i! yourcup, 'es o!ly i!tereste& i! heari!g O- thi!g from you BB $) repe!t, or&. Please fill me with /our (pirit.% Thatswhat happe!e& i! 4cts 2. They got great ig cups full of 3esus.

Thats 4=4/( i!si&e 'is will. Ca! you pray that a!& mea! itG )f you &o, ) ha"e -O i&ea what will happe!. 'ecoul& se!& you to 4frica, 'e coul& ma#e you spea# i! other la!guages, your sha&ow coul& start heali!g peopleBB ) ha"e -O i&ea. 5ut ) #!ow 'es a goo& Father a!& 'e wo!t gi"e us a sto!e whe! we as# for rea&. /ou

C4--OT see# the 'oly (pirit with a pure heart a!& somethi!g else s!ea# i! there i!stea&. The "ery foremostthi!g o! o&s heart is for you to e full of 'im. There is !o peace a!& 6oy a!& "ictory without that.

3ust pray a!& elie"e. 'ell come.

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2ppedi7 : 8 2re ou Sure ou(re Not Nuts?

5oy, )ll tell you what (ometimes ) rea& o"er stuff li#e this that ) ha"e writte! a!& the Missouri (howBMe,(outher! 5aptist preachers #i& i! me &oes sort of wo!&er if )m !uts. 5ut the =or& of o& is clear, we arespiritual ei!gs temporarily trappe& i! 6ars of clay. =e are to wal# i! the spirit, !ot focus o! the flesh. Our attleis -OT agai!st flesh a!& loo&, ut agai!st powers a!& pri!cipalities a!& wic#e&!ess i! high places a!& the&ar# forces of this worl&. -either is our attle to e &o!e =)T' our flesh a!& loo&. Our spirit 8or rather 'is i! us9

is where our true power rests.(o, yeah, this seems really super!atural a!& mystical to me sometimes, e1cept that o& has pro"e! it to me soma!y times that ) coul&!t e"e! egi! to cou!t. )"e see! &emo!s 8i! the spirit9 o! someo!e a!& reache& out a!&grae& them a!& rippe& them off a!& they *uit smo#i!g or are heale& of 4utism or their pai! stops i!sta!tly orthey &o!t !ee& their schiophre!ia me&ici!e a!ymore. O"er a!& o"er a!& o"er. 4!& )"e see! people 8stro!gChristia!s9 e u!ale or u!willi!g to #eep the &oors shut a!& it comes ac# se"e! times worse a!& withi!'OU( theyre eati!g their wife a!& &oi!g &rugs a!& cursi!g me out + or worse ) #!ow &emo!s are realecause the or& has pro"e! it to me o"er a!& o"er a!& )"e see! what they &o, how they act, where they hi&e,how to get ri& of them, how they come ac#, how they wor# together a!& more.

There is a certai! segme!t of the $church% that will i!sult a!& &emea! a!ythi!g that is $super!atural% a!& yet theygather together to pray o! =e&!es&ay !ights for the sic# people i! their churches. They pray that the &octorswoul& ha"e wis&om, that their reco"ery woul& e slightly faster tha! !ormal, that they woul& ha"e peace with the

sic#!ess that the or& has place& o! them. 'ogwash =hat #i!& of power is thatG =hat #i!& of i!herita!ceG )fyou &o!t elie"e o& heals, the! why pray at allG =hy !ot 6ust write a !ote of e!courageme!t to their &octorG )fyou 6ust sit arou!& a!& se!& out goo& "ies to their &octor, how is that !ot a form of -ew 4ge me&itatio!G=here i! the 5ile &oes it say to go to a &octor a!ywayG =ho is the reat Physicia!G =hat &octor ca! heal ifo& &oes!t wa!t someo!e heale&G =hat &octor ca! sa"e a life that o& wa!ts to ta#eG 4!& who ca! #illsomeo!e o& wa!ts to #eep ali"eG 'ow ma!y e1amples &o you wa!t of people that ) #!ow that are u!#illaleG )ha"e a frie!& that trie& to commit suici&e so ma!y times a!& #ept getti!g sa"e& y a!gels that fi!ally a! a!gelcame a!& sai&, $=oul& you 6ust ;-OC; )T OFF =ere !e"er goi!g to let you #ill yourself% 4!& that was5FO he came to 3esus )f o& has somethi!g for you to &o, u!til you &o it, youre i!&estructile =hy eafrai& of Ma!G 4!& if o& wa!ts you &ea&, -O5OD/ ca! sa"e you. 5e afrai& of o&.

Oops (orry, starte& preachi!g agai!. 4!yway ...

Those sectio!s of the church that &e!y that the ifts of the (pirit are for to&ay are still rothers a!& sisters a!& )

lo"e them. 5ut theyre !ot goi!g to e "ery much help fighti!g a war i! the spirit with weapo!s they say are!treal a!& agai!st a! e!emy they i!sist is!t there. (ome e"e! elie"e that o& &oes!t spea# to people a!ymore.=hat #i!& of a war is thatG )! the mea!time, their churches are full of sic#, shac#le&, a&&icte&, fearful, oesepeople with !o peace a!& 6oy a!& "ictory. They ha"e the appeara!ce of Christ, ut &e!y the power thereof. Thatca!t e goo&. 5ut ) lo"e them a!& wa!t them to come arou!&. )ts !ot the peoples fault, its the &octri!es of ma!

6amme& &ow! their throat y semi!aria!s who will !ot ac# &ow! from the status *uo. 5ut ) thi!# o& is comi!gi! power real soo! a!& 'es goi!g to settle the issue o!ce a!& for all.

/es, there are lyi!g sig!s a!& wo!&ers alrea&y a!& ma!y more comi!g. There are false prophets that heal a!&&eli"er people of &emo!s 8or seem to9. 5ut the fact that sata! has cheap imitatio!s DO( -OT !egate theorigi!als =ho e!efits most if o& &oes super!atural stuff a!& sata! &oes super!atural stuff, ut you &ismissthem 5OT' ecause O- of them was from sata!G Do!t you thi!# thats goi!g to irritate o& + to co!sta!tly etol& that a!ythi!g super!atural that 'e &oes was actually the wor# of sata!G ) mea! how ca! o& &o a!ythi!gthats -OT super!atural + y &efi!itio!, 'es !ot $!atural% =he! o& e*uips someo!e with faith a!& power a!&

they ta#e the 5ile seriously a!& go out a!& fulfill the reat Commissio! as its writte! at the e!& of the ospelof Mar# a!& people #eep sayi!g they are tools of sata!, &o!t you thi!# thats goi!g to irritate o&G

=hate"er else ) may e, )"e got peace a!& 6oy a!& "ictory a!& )m &eliriously happy. )f the "oice )m heari!g is-OT o&, the! it sure sou!&s li#e 'im a!& 'e #eeps telli!g me to &o stuff that you woul& thi!# woul& really,really ma#e sata! ma&. )f this "oice is!t really o&, ) &o!t care, )m go!!a stic# with it u!til this whole ri&e playsout to the e!&. )m goi!g to et o! ra&ical oe&ie!ce a!& a pure heart ei!g a really goo& thi!g 8hea"e!lytreasureBwise9 a!& if ) go &ow!, )m goi!g &ow! swi!gi!g for the fe!ces. o& will 6u&ge my heart, !ot the

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