your question for the next lecture - la trobe university
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Your question for the next lecture!
If we had the right technology, could we fission people?!
Instead of swapping brains!
might we do something else..!
how about duplicating one hemisphere of your brain...!
and putting it into a body that’s lost its brain!
would that be a way of making two of you?!
It’s a problem with the logic of identity
Remember the case of Charles, Robert and Guy Fawkes
If Charles is identical to Guy Fawkes
Why fission poses a problem for identity
See Stanford Encyclopedia article by André Gallois: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity-time/ section 5
and Guy Fawkes is identical to Robert
(which was false) then Charles is identical to Robert
Since fission means splitting into two.......
the two survivors of fission cannot be IDENTICAL with the original
consider a simpler case to start with.....
Transitivity of identity
The ship of Theseus!See the article of that title on Wikipedia
Theseus and other young men set out from Crete to Athens in a ship of 30 oars. The ship was kept by the Athenians for a long time, and they replaced planks, oars and sails as they rotted, keeping the ship in excellent condition...
Draw a space-time diagram for the ship
Launched
Very old puzzle!
All parts replaced
Finally sinks and rots away
T1
T2
Original parts preserved and rebuilt into Theseus’ ship
T3
Two ships with a common origin
ORIGIN Stages
Which ship is Theseus ship?!
Both of the candidates for identity with T1 are physically - but not functionally - continuous with it
T1
T2
T1 + T2 functions continuously as a ship while having its parts gradually replaced T3
Is it T1 (the continually repaired stage) or T1 + T2 (the continuously functioning ship) or T1 + T3 (just a pile of planks for a while) or does T1 fission into T2 and T3, like a cell dividing?
T3 may be of interest to a museum, because it contains the original parts so has historic value So T1 + T3 may be more ‘authentically’ Theseus’s ship
But once T3 is assembled from all the parts that once belonged to T1, it seems that there are RIVALS for the title ‘Theseus Ship’
Physical and psychological continuity
We could argue that there are 3 ships in this case, T1, T2 and T3
T1
T2
T3
Or we could say (loosely) that T2 is a better candidate for identity with T1 because it is BOTH physically and functionally continuous with T1
When we are dealing with people, not ships, the situation is more complex
Ships don’t remember!
A stream of direct and indirect memories can provide a kind of PSYCHOLOGICAL continuity
More strictly T2 is a better candidate for being a stage of the same ship as T1 (that is, the sum of stages T1 + T2 constitute one same ship)
Ed
Fred Ted
So what about the fission solution?
Remember the pods in The Fly, which can transport matter from one pod to another (disintegrator-integrator)
What if we can make two versions of someone in just the way a dividing cell makes two versions of itself?
Ed fissions into Fred and Ted
Fred and Ted each have Ed’s memories, hopes intentions and so on
Stream of psychological continuity
Best device is the transporter in Star Trek
it dematerializes
Two models of how it may work
and rematerializes
breaks bodies down into component molecules and shoots these through space at a great speed
makes a blueprint of an entire body, then sends the blueprint to the receiving station, while destroying the body
The teleport, teletransporter, .... makes fission VERY easy
Retains physical continuity
a new body, matching the blueprint is manufactured from a stock of molecules stored at the receiving station
destroys physical continuity No fission
Preserves psychological continuity
Makes fission possible
How can the transporter help make persons fission?
by malfunctioning or by keeping copies of the original blueprint
it might fail to destroy the original body
or it can restore the original from the blueprint it keeps
we might say, speaking loosely
that Ed can use the transporter so that there will be two of him in future, although there’s only one of him just now
but then we ask: which of these future people will be Ed?
since each of Ted and Fred are psychologically continuous with Ed
maybe Ed survives twice over
but the question of IDENTITY remains a puzzle
Ed
Fred Ted
it might “stutter” and produce two copies
Some common solutions to the duplication problem!
Ed was actually two people all along, that is, Fred and Ted shared the body called “Ed”
Ed is an earlier stage of both Fred and Ted (Ed +Fred is one person and Ed + Ted is another person)
Alternatively, Ed dies at the time the transporter destroys his body but is survived by Fred and Ted!
What does survival mean here?!
that your body dies!
but that your memories, or some things very like your memories, continue in other bodies!
Ed
Fred Ted
But are we really so independent of our bodies?
So the problem of numerical identity remains disputed!
John has the same body as Mr Smith!
John is the same person as Mr Smith when !
John has same brain as Mr Smith!
John is psychologically continuous with Mr Smith (they share the very same memories, intentions, and so forth)!
In normal cases, these three conditions all hold!
bodily continuity! psychological continuity (stream theory in Philosophy Gym)!
In abnormal cases, we find it hard to decide between!
For Locke, psychological continuity is what matters!
A view supported by Star Trek!
Copyright and references
Images and photos are those of the presenter, unless noted below
Aart Schouman, The Shoemaker, and the portraits of Guy Fawkes and John Locke are in the public domain
Image of Greek galleys from Perseus Project is in the public domain
References
The Philosophy Gym http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philosophy-Gym-Short-Adventures-Thinking/dp/0747232717
Wikipedia. The Ship of Theseus at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
John Locke. Of Identity and Diversity at http://www.ilt.columbia.edu/publications/Projects/digitexts/locke/understanding/chapter0227.html
Eric T Olsen. Personal Identity. at http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity-personal/
Thanks to Norva Lo for Mr and Mrs Smith as dogs
André Gallois. Identity Over Time, sections 4 and 5. at http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity-time/
Thanks to Olivier for the fly from dans le jardin at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_fly.jpg