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Considerations on Rydberg transport Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

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Page 1: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Considerations on Rydberg transport Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formationfor antihydrogen formation

Daniel

Comparat

Laboratoire Aimé Cotton

Orsay FRANCE

Page 2: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Outlook

1) Consideration with OUR Rybderg atoms n=20-40, k,m=-40-401) Energy level in F and B2) Lifetime in F and B

2) Decelerator or Transport ?1) Force acting on Rydberg, scalling laws, lifetime2) Example with time independent electric field F3) Example with time dependent electric field

• Toward a single well define level ?• Easy to transport • Easy to trap and to accumulate

1) Trapping Rybderg or Hbar (1s)1) What are the possible traps ?

Page 3: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Energy levels of Rybderg atoms

F // B

Approximation (see J. Phys. B 21 3499 (1988), Rev. Mod. Phys. 65 115 (1993))

Values (K) : 15 K, 10 K, 1 K (n=30 ; k~m~l~15, B=1T, Fion=400 V/cm)

10000 20000 30000 40000Vm

400

300

200

100

K

10000 20000 30000 40000Vm

400

300

200

100

K

10000 20000 30000 40000Vm

30

20

10

10

20

30

K

10000 20000 30000 40000Vm

40

20

20

40

K

100 200 300 400Vm

20

10

10

20

K

100 200 300 400Vm

0.3

0.2

0.1

0.1

0.2

0.3

K

B=0, n=30

B=0, n=30

B=0, n=20-40 B=1T, n=20-40

B=1T, n=30

B=1T, n=30

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Lifetime of Rydberg atoms

PHYSICAL REVIEW A 72, 033405 2005

Typical value 0.1 ns * n^3 m^2|k|<n and n>l>|m|

• 10-1000µs for m=1-n

• F=0, B=0 n l m good numbers

• F≠0, B=0 n k m good

• F≠0, B ≠ 0 but // m good ~n

• F≠0, B ≠ 0 not // ~n• Small lifetime 20 µs

Page 5: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Outlook

1) Consideration with OUR Rybderg atoms n=20-40, k,m=-40-401) Energy level in F and B2) Lifetime in F and B

2) Decelerator or Transport ?1) Force acting on Rydberg, scalling laws, lifetime2) Example with time independent electric field F3) Example with time dependent electric field

• Toward a single well define level ?• Easy to transport • Easy to trap and to accumulate

1) Trapping Rybderg or Hbar (1s)1) What are the possible traps ?

Page 6: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Rydberg Transport2 possible schemes

•Create Rydberg with velocity -> Deceleration•Difficult to produce cold pbar at 1000m/s•Rydberg and then Hbar (1s or 2s) directly in flight -> Gravity

•Create Rydberg at rest -> Transport (acceleration+deceleration)•Much simpler ? to have low temperature for pbar•Simpler design ? due to “symmetry” between acceleration and deceleration (Same final energy that at the beginning)

2 main problems ?Hbar (nl) not trapped (in flight) and not well define single levels

1 VERY good pointCheck with high flux normal matter pbar (proton) + Ps -> Hbar (Hydrogen)

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1 0.8 0.6 0.4 0.2T

10

5

5

10

K

Effect on B on Rydberg transport

Equation of motion under B and F // fields

1) F and B are time independent

Ekin, fin - Ekin, in = Epot, fin - Epot, in

No good numbers

MAJOR PROBLEM due to the 10 K energy at 1 Tesla for m=15

N=30, F=0

Solutions:1) Compensate with Electric field F (no : affect n k not m)2) Time dependent magnetic field ?? (1T in 100µs ?)3) Final B = Initial B: YES ? (in the magnetic trap)

Page 8: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Static Stark Transport

R

FORCE=3/2 n k dF/dR

R

F=Instantaneous Electric Field

nk=1

nk=3nk=2

nk=4

To simplify with no magnetic field E=3/2 n k F

Rlimit = Border of the Penning trap

Final TrappingRegion after Radiative decay

m R''(t) = -3/2 n k a(t) Grad.F(R(t)) with a(t) constant here

Rydberg created at r=0 with v=0

Position of the RybdergAfter few µs

Electric FieldIonization limit

Pb 1cm travelDuring lifetime 30µs

4K -> 300 m/s =1cm in 30µs

Page 9: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Lifetime limitation on Rydberg transport

1) With Bfinal = Binitial I neglect the paramagnetic term2) I will neglect after the diamagnetic term in B2

ERROR OF 1 KELVINS ?

Only the gradient of F (and B) are important not their value (neutral particlules)

Maximum motion during lifetime 10 cm R

F Cloud of Rybderg

mm

Ionisation limitPossibility to move 5 cm in 30 µs (n=30; k~10)

Page 10: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Time dependent Stark Transport

R

Potential= n k * Instantaneous Electric Field

Rlimit = Border of the Penning trap

Large nk, oscillate

R

t>0 , constant acceleration forSame motion + oscillation for

Small nkR

Rydberg created at r=0 with v=0

Large nk

Small nk

R

F=Instantaneous Electric Field

Electric FieldIonization limit

Page 11: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Outlook

1) Consideration with OUR Rybderg atoms n=20-40, k,m=-40-401) Energy level in F and B2) Lifetime in F and B

2) Decelerator or Transport ?1) Force acting on Rydberg, scalling laws, lifetime2) Example with time independent electric field F3) Example with time dependent electric field4) General case

3) Toward a single well define level ?1) Easy to transport 2) Easy to trap and to accumulate

4) Trapping Rybderg or Hbar (1s)1) What are the possible traps ?

Page 12: Considerations on Rydberg transport for antihydrogen formation Daniel Comparat Laboratoire Aimé Cotton Orsay FRANCE

Creating Single level: Reduce Rydberg lifetime

300 µs for n~m~20. Problems high m radiative decay in m=+/- 1

1) Efficient l,m mixing * in electric and crossed magnetic fields

(V. Danilov, A.Drozhdin and W. Chou, R. J. Damburg and V. V. Kolosov it.sns.ornl.gov/asd/public/doc/sns0054/sns0054.doc)

* RF or µ-waveSecond order Stark effect l mixing (same n,m)

2) Black body radiation !

20 µs ; 300 K for n~20. Independent of m !

Cooke & Gallagher PRL 21 588 (1980)

MgH+ Drewsen J. Phys. B: At. Mol. Opt. Phys. 37 4571 (2004)

Use of (mercury) lamp 4000 K1) few mm3 high temperature region 2) Broad band (fs or µ-wave) laser

1s

2s

3s 3p

n~20

2p

121.5 nm = 243/2 nm

1.5ns1/7 s

15µs

475ns

45ns6ns

820 nm

656 nm

365 nm=730/2 nm4l

1550nm

3) fs laser n~30->n=3

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Conclusion

1) Problem with 1T field (10 K for m~15)1) Solution ? Transport toward magnetic trap with same 1T field ?

2) Create Rydberg at rest1) Design to push the pbar -> Fast ? rethermalisation2) Transport the « slow » (m,k small) Rydberg the « fast » follow. Few

cm in 10 µs-> few mm cloud. Accelerate the deexcitation after the transport

3) Create Rydberg in well define state 1) Accelerate the deexcitation with F and B + ? Laser2) Excite with laser in a well define nkm Rydberg state3) Easy to design a decelerator for this particular state and calculate

the coupling toward a magnetic trap (best ? m=0)

4) Use the 3D picture and clever desing, check for anticrossings