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DOING IT

HIS WAY

KEVIN COSTNER ON BEING LUCKY, RAISING KIDS IN HIS 50s, AND REMEMBERING WHITNEY

By Dotson Rader

PLUS: OUR SUMMER TV PREVIEW

A LIFE LESSON

FROM

COLIN POWELL

Costner stars in the History channel’s

Hatfi elds & McCoys, beginning May 28

SUNDAY, MAY 20, 2012

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WALTER SCOTT ASKS …

Randy JacksonAs he readies for the American Idol � nale (Fox, May 23, 8 p.m. ET), Jackson, 55, is also shining a spotlight on type 2 diabetes with the Taking Diabetes to Heart campaign.

What changes have you made in your life since you were

diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in 2003? I’ve made a complete 180. I’m a much healthier eater and I’ve lost quite a bit of weight over the years. I’m very active now. I’m actually a pretty good tennis player!You have some memorable Idol catchphrases. Do you have

a favorite? I try to switch it up. Ryan Seacrest loves “In it to win it,” so I’m going to get him a shirt with that on it.

You’ve played the bass guitar for several bands, but

can you sing? I used to think I was a singer; I had my own delusions about it. I’ve sung background for a couple of bands. I’m better than some on the radio now, I’ll tell you that much!

You’re the last original Idol judge, now in your 11th

season. Have you ever thought about leaving the

show? We have these things called contracts, so you never know! But I’m still enjoying it 100 percent.

Email your questions to Walter Scott at [email protected]. Letters can be sent to P.O. Box 5001, Grand Central Station, New York, N.Y. 10163-5001.

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’60s because of Beatle-

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Sacramento

A: Although Sedaka, 73, says the Beatles “came to America and took me off the map,” all has been forgiven. He even

took his 6-year-old grandson to a Paul McCartney con-cert last year in Las

Vegas. “He told me he likes the Beatles’ songs better than mine!” Sedaka says with a

laugh. His twin granddaughters sing backup on his new chil-dren’s book/CD combo, Dinosaur Pet, inspired by his 1961 hit “Calendar Girl.” Listen to the song at Parade.com/sedaka.

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wins? —Bob Flanagan,

New York City

A: The puck stops with former Montreal Canadiens center Henri Richard. Nicknamed “Pocket Rocket” for his 5-foot-7 frame, the Hall of Famer won 11 championships—more than any other player in NHL history—between 1955 and 1975. Now 76, Richard serves as an ambassador for the Canadiens’ organization.

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Q: What happens to

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Dancing With the Stars

once the show is over?

—Debbie Armiger, N.J.

A: “Some go into storage, some are auctioned for charity, and others we reuse,” says costume de-signer Steven Lee. Celebs may also buy their cos-tumes, though they can cost up to $5,000 apiece.

Past contestants Ricki Lake, Nancy Grace, and Kristi Yamaguchi own all the sparkly garments they wore, and Maria Menounos has expressed interest in buying hers at the end of this season.

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The late-night landscape is dramatically different than it was when Jay Leno took over from

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the mud is just as funny now. You can use all these new elements, but that part of the process doesn’t really change.

How do you like to spend your Sundays? Working at my garage. I have about 135 cars and 90 motorcycles. It’s a little silly, but my thing has always been one woman and 200 vehicles. It’s cheaper than one car and 200 girlfriends.

What’s with your off-duty uniform of denim work shirt and jeans?That comes from me telling the wardrobe guy, “Run down to Banana Republic and get me 20 pairs of jeans and 40 shirts.” Then I’m done for the year.

Do you and your wife still have date nights? Yeah, she’ll fi nd a restau-rant, some fancy place in Beverly Hills. I’ll stop at In-N-Out Burger fi rst since I’m not a big restau-rant guy. But she likes it, and when you’re married, that’s what you do.

What else keeps a marriage working? If you don’t fool around, it’s not that hard. I think the key to life is low self-esteem—believing you’re not the smartest or most handsome person in the room. All the people who have high self-esteem are criminals and actors.

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Tonight Show?

Oh, probably never explain, never complain. I make my living making fun of people, and if peo-ple make fun of me,

that’s fi ne. My only rule is it has to be funny.

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terrible. But on the road, you fi nd out what they really think.

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Kevin costner has often been compared to Gary Cooper. Even

Cooper’s widow, Rocky, once told me she saw the similarities: “They both act with their eyes.” Now 30-plus years into his career, Costner still radiates the all-American appeal and casual glamour that helped make him a star.

Dressed in a beige sweater over a white T-shirt, ivory chinos, and spotless canvas sneakers, he relaxes in an armchair in the living room of his oceanfront house outside Santa Barbara, Calif. It is a modest home by movie star standards: four bedrooms on a suburban lot close to the neighbors. But Costner is at ease here, talking about his family, his career, the people he has loved. At 57, he is deeply tanned, his hair now grayish-blond, his voice soft

needs a bigger house and is plan-ning to build it on 10 waterfront acres nearby. His brood also in-cludes three adult children with his fi rst wife and college sweetheart, Cindy Silva, from whom he was

Fullerton, married, and landed a job in marketing after gradua-tion. But he quit after a month to become an actor. “The dialogue in my head was ‘You’ve got to live your life for yourself,’ ” recalls Costner. He went on to appear in over 40 fi lms, including The Un-touchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, and Dances With Wolves, winning Oscars for the latter for directing and Best Picture.

His latest project is the mini-series Hatfi elds & McCoys, about the post–Civil War clans who famously feuded; it airs May 28, 29, and 30 on the History channel. He’ll also play Clark Kent’s dad in the 2013 Super-man reboot, Man of Steel. It was a different type of performance, however, that recently won him attention and praise: In February it fell to Kevin Costner, Whitney Houston’s costar in The Body-guard, to deliver a eulogy for his friend at her funeral in her child-hood church in Newark, N.J.

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it’s in the fi lm—that lots of people

and soothing. He is still sexy, and he knows it.

He lives with his second wife, handbag designer Christine Baumgartner, 38, and their chil-dren, daughter Grace, almost 2, and sons Hayes, 3, and Cayden, 5. As we talk through the afternoon, we can hear the kids playing in other rooms. Costner says he

divorced in 1994, and a teenage son from a brief post-divorce affair with Pittsburgh football heiress Bridget Rooney. “You never stop raising kids,” he tells me.

Costner grew up far from beachfront wealth, in a con-servative, hardworking Baptist family in Southern California. He studied business at Cal State

COSTNER RIDES AGAIN The actor (center) plays patriarch “Devil Anse” Hatfi eld in Hatfields & McCoys. For more about the real-life clans, go to Parade.com/costner.

Kevin Costner opens up about family, his late friend Whitney Houston, and what he prays for • BY DOTSON RADER

“I have regrets. But that’s from

a lifetime of

taking chances”


have the idea that the two of you

were lovers. That they were think-

ing, “This is the only guy who ever

really loved her, and why doesn’t he

say something?”

Well, I began to feel that. ... You know, I didn’t feel the need to tell people I knew her. A couple of times over the years I called radio

stations that were on her pretty hard, asking the deejay to look at it in a different light. And at a couple of critical moments in her life, I was asked by a close friend to write her a letter. And I did. I don’t know if she ever read them.Did Whitney’s Hollywood celebrity

contribute to her substance abuse?

There’s an epidemic of drugs everywhere. Hollywood is a very small part of it. Did you sense her vulnerability?

Oh, yes. I tried to identify it in my eulogy. ... I think about Whitney a little bit the way I think about the Kennedys. I know there’s trouble, but I choose to think about a lot

of other stuff. The trouble is as real as the achievement, but it does not tarnish it. [Costner starred in two fi lms about the Kennedys, JFK and Thirteen Days.]Who invited you to speak at

her funeral?

Dionne Warwick. My wife and I fl ew into New York on a Friday

WATERWORLDCostner near Santa Barbara with his dogs, Daisy and Jewel.

COVER AND OPENING PHOTO GRAPHS BY AMANDA FRIEDMAN | May 20, 2012 • 9


Fonda). “It’s an idealistic look at the news,” Sorkin says. “They’re trying to channel the days of Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite.”

• Push Girls (Sundance Channel,

June 4, 10 p.m. ET)

This documentary series focuses on four young women who refuse to be limited by the fact that they’re in wheelchairs.

• Saving Hope (NBC, June 7,

10 p.m. ET)

A hospital’s chief of surgery (Michael Shanks) lands in a coma (though his spirit seems to be roaming the halls) and his fi ancée and fellow sur-geon (Erica Durance) must fi ght for his life. “They’re on a journey to fi nd each other again,” says Durance.

• Anger Management (FX, June 28,

9 p.m. ET)

After his public meltdown and exit from Two and a Half Men, Charlie Sheen (below) returns to prime time as Charlie Goodson, a hot-headed ex-ballplayer who’s now a therapist. “He has defi nitely pulled himself together,” series creator Bruce Helford (The Drew Carey Show) says of his star. “He knows he has a lot to prove, and he’s working harder than I’ve ever seen an actor work.”

• Star Next Door (The CW, mid-August)

Singers like Gloria Estefan and John Rich not only mentor bud-ding talents—they move in with them! “We immerse ourselves in what they do day to day,” says Rich. “If it’s a single mom who needs help changing the diapers, I’ll be the diaper-changer. It’s a really nuts-and-bolts approach to fi nding a superstar.” Queen Latifah executive-produces.

• Major Crimes (TNT, Aug. 13, 10 p.m. ET)

This spin-off from The Closer brings back Mary McDonnell (left) as LAPD captain Sharon Raydor, in a series that shows how police and prosecutors work together to get convictions.

• Duets (ABC, May 24, 8 p.m. ET)

In the latest twist on music talent shows, chart-toppers Kelly Clarkson (above), Jennifer Nettles, Robin Thicke, and John Legend select con-testants to be their duet partners. “I’m looking for somebody who sings with soul and passion,” says Thicke. “Someone like Prince, Marvin Gaye, and Michael Jackson.”

• Take Me Out (Fox, June 7, 8 p.m. ET)George Lopez hosts this dating series featuring 30 women looking for love and bachelors who must make the ultimate fi rst impression.

• Bunheads (ABC Family, June 11, 9 p.m. ET)A Vegas showgirl (Sutton Foster) relocates to her husband’s town and takes a job at her mother-in-law’s dance school in this dramedy. And just what is a bunhead? “Someone who spends her life in tights and a leotard, with her hair in a bun,” Foster explains. “It’s a lifestyle!”

• Dallas (TNT, June 13, 9 p.m. ET)“There’s been a seamless transition of deviousness,” says Linda Gray, who returns from the original series (along with Larry Hagman, right, Patrick Duffy, and others) for this reboot about oil,

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• Dogs in the City (CBS, May 30, 8 p.m. ET)New York City “dog guru” Justin Silver resolves issues between owners and their canines—like a pooch that’s having prob-lems adjusting to joint custody after a divorce—on this reality series.

• Men at Work (TBS, May 24, 10 p.m. ET)Four buddies who toil at a magazine (Danny Masterson, James Lesure, Michael Cassidy, and Adam Busch) serve as each others’ wingmen in life and love.

betrayal, and Ewing family values. Josh Henderson, Jesse Metcalfe, and Jordana Brewster are among the second-generation schemers.

• The Newsroom (HBO, June 24, 10 p.m. ET)The West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin brings his hallmarks—workplace romance and rat-a-tat dialogue—to

this series about a cable TV news show. Jeff Daniels (above) is a moderate Republican an-

chor whose attacks on the ex-tremists in his party delight

his old-fl ame producer (Emily Mortimer) but anger his CEO (Jane

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• Perception (TNT, July 9, 10 p.m. ET)Eric McCormack (right) plays a neuroscience professor—brilliant but schizophrenic—who helps an FBI friend and former student (Rachael Leigh Cook) solve crimes.

• Political Animals (USA, July 15, 10 p.m. ET)Sigourney Weaver stars as a former fi rst lady turned secretary of state bat-tling to keep a reporter (Carla Gugino) from exposing family problems in this six-episode miniseries. So is Weaver channeling Hillary Clinton? “Not at all,” she says. “My character, Elaine Barrish Hammond, is her own woman.” In fact, Weaver sees her as a composite—and a role model. “Women lead differently than men,” she says. “It’s more collegial. I hope women fi nd the show empowering, because we’ve got a lot of work to do.”

• 3 (CBS, July 22, 9 p.m. ET) Could it be—a dating show that (sort of) resembles reality? Three women audition men, go on dates, and bond over their romantic road bumps.

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night, and the next day we went to the funeral. I was writing [my eulogy] on the plane, in the limo, in bed. It was important. When I fi rst walked into that church, it was electric, man. The band was going, the people were moving. I started [speaking] with the idea that sometimes what you think life will be it won’t be at all, and about what was real between Whitney and me, what we talked about— being in church when we were little, both getting in trouble, about our not wanting to be preachers. “Don’t let me be a preacher!” I wanted to impart a bit of the Whitney that I knew, and maybe people could think about her in a different way. You held off fi lming The Body-

guard for a year to wait for her.

You don’t do that for everybody. And it was a pretty seminal moment for Whitney. I was told that the movie made a big im-pression on the black commu-nity because I took Whitney in my arms and kissed her, not as a black woman but as a beautiful woman. That’s how I saw her. You and Whitney were both raised

Baptist. Do you still pray?

Yes, because I realize I have been very lucky. I feel that there has been a hand over my life. I haven’t lived a perfect life. I have regrets. But that’s from a life-time of taking chances, making decisions, and trying not to be frozen. The only thing that I can do with my regrets is understand them. When I see my children, and when I see the people who value me, I know how lucky I am. I think, “Where did that luck come from?” And so I give thanks for the life I’ve lived.

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Many years ago I was the war-den—the senior lay person—of a

small suburban Episcopal church in northern Virginia. During that time, the bishop assigned to our parish an elderly priest, in some kind of distress and in need of a parish, to serve as an assis-tant pastor. I never knew the nature of his problem. We just welcomed him into the church, treated him as one of us, and ministered to him, just as we ministered to one another. He was with us for a year. On his last Sunday, he was assigned the sermon. As he finished, he looked out over the congregation and with a smile on his face qui-etly concluded, “Always show more kindness than seems necessary, because the person receiving it needs it more than you will ever know.” That sentence hit me with a special force that has remained with me for four decades. His les-son was clear: Kindness is not just about being nice; it’s about recog-nizing another human being who deserves care and respect.

Much later, when I was secre-tary of state, I slipped away one day from my beautiful office and vigilant security agents and snuck down to the garage, where

the employees were immigrants and minorities making minimum wage.

The attendants had never seen a secretary wandering around the garage before; they thought

I was lost. They asked if I needed help getting back “home.” I told them no. I just wanted to chat.

After a while, I asked them a question about their jobs that had puzzled me. Because the garage was too small for all the employees’ cars, the attendants had to stack cars one behind the other. “When the cars come in every morning,

how do you decide whose car is the first to get out, and whose ends up second or third?”

They gave each other knowing looks and little smiles. “Mr. Secretary,” one of them said, “it goes like this: When you drive in, if you lower the window, look out, smile, or know our name, you’re number one to get out. But if you look straight ahead, don’t show you see us or that we are doing something for you, well, you are likely to be one of the last to get out.” At my next staff meeting, I shared this story with my senior leaders. “You can never err by treating everyone in the building with respect, thoughtfulness, and

a kind word,” I told them. It ain’t brain surgery. Every per-

son in an organization has value and wants that value to be recog-nized. Everyone needs apprecia-tion and reinforcement. Taking care of employees is perhaps the best form of kindness.

Being kind doesn’t mean being soft. When young soldiers go to basic training, they meet a drill sergeant who seems to be their worst nightmare. They are terri-fied. But all that changes. The sergeant is with them every step of the way, teaching, cajoling, enforcing, bringing out the strength and confidence they didn’t know they had. When they graduate, they leave with an emotional bond they will never forget. Ask any veteran the name of his drill sergeant and he will know it. (My ROTC camp drill sergeant almost 55 years ago was Staff Sgt. Artis Westberry.)

I believe that if you develop a reputation for kindness, even the most unpleasant decisions will go down easier . People will realize that your decision must be neces-sary and is not arbitrary or made without empathy. As the old say-ing goes, “To the world, you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world.”

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I want to live forever, and I know I won’t. I’m not afraid of dying. I’m only afraid of one thing: not being able to raise my kids. When I pray, that’s what I pray for—that I be the one who raises Grace, Hayes, and Cayden.How are your older kids?

My son Joe just got his fi rst job out of college—he’s a sound engineer at a music studio. I’m so proud of Joe, Lily, and Annie. Annie told me something that I found really moving. When she went away to college in Chile, we changed her last name because we thought it’d be better for her down there not to have any connection [to me]. Then Annie called and said, “I’ve spent my whole life not wanting to lean on my name. But the minute it was taken away from me, it really bothered me. I miss our name.” What she said was so beautiful. Your second wife, Christine, badly

wanted children, and you didn’t

want more, right?

Yes. She said, “I’m going to wait for you, but not long. When you come to your senses, come back to me.” [laughs] And I did.What makes your marriage work?

Maybe it’s the ability to say you’re sorry. I know that sounds so simple. If you’re willing to tell somebody that you love them, are you also willing to say you’re sorry? You need to, even when you think you’re in the right. When The Untouchables was

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you had become a big movie star?

I was aware that good things were happening to me. It was a big moment. But I never wanted to be the No. 1 person. That comes and goes. I just wanted to be in the room where the decision was made, so that when I wanted to make a fi lm, I made it.Why did you want to make

Hatfields & McCoys?

As we get further and further removed from history, people start to think these stories weren’t true—that the Hatfi elds and McCoys were a comic. But no—these were people who came out

of the Civil War, which was the root of so many problems. So to give authenticity and perspective to that story was interesting to me.

You know, these are very easy people to make fun of. They have beards; they’re ultra-religious; they talk funny. But these people and their descendants were judges and senators. It’s like what started the feud—one of the reasons was a pig trial. It’s easy for us to laugh at that, right? But a pig could feed a family for 30 days. And today people will go to court if their view in Malibu is obstructed.

Anybody who watches [the miniseries] will know that the Hatfi elds and the McCoys are part of the American fabric.Have you ever thought about

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I would never do it. Ego has slipped so far into the political landscape that it’s usurped the idea of public service. A good idea for one party is a bad idea for another—it has to be defeated. Do I have the mentality to govern? I think I do, but not in the system that exists. I would be frustrated.What do you love about the career

you’ve chosen?

I’ve always felt performance-oriented. If you compare acting to a sports moment, where you’re down to the last shot or pitch, a lot of people wouldn’t want to be in that situation. I’ve always liked it. I’ve never thought as much about the things that could go wrong as what can possibly go right.

LOVE ON THE LINKS With his wife, Christine, and their younger son, Hayes, at a golf tournament in 2011.

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