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Page 1: Presented by Tammy Flanagan - NARFEPresented by Tammy Flanagan . National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association 2 When do you plan to claim Social Security retirement benefits:

1 National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association

Claiming Social Security

A NARFE Federal Benefits Institute Webinar

Presented by Tammy Flanagan

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When do you plan to claim Social Security

retirement benefits:

I am already receiving my Social Security benefits

As soon as I am eligible

I plan to delay application as long as possible

I am not yet eligible for Social Security retirement

I am not sure

Audience Poll

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What is your federal retirement system?

CSRS

FERS or I transferred to FERS

CSRS Offset

I am not sure

I am already retired from CSRS

I am already retired from FERS

I am already retired from CSRS Offset

Something else

Audience Poll

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What Is Your Retirement Timeline?

55 62 65 - 67 70 90

Retire from Federal Service

Eligible for Social Security

Full Social Security

Retirement Age

Maximum Delayed Social

Security Credits

Expiration Date

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Full Retirement Age

If you were

born in:

Your full retirement age

is:

1943 – 1954 66

1955 66 and 2 months

1956 66 and 4 months

1957 66 and 6 months

1958 66 and 8 months

1959 66 and 10 months

1960 and later 67

Social Security’s Full

Retirement Age (FRA)

is increasing gradually

because of legislation

passed by Congress

in 1983

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True or False:

1. I plan to continue to work after age 62.

2. I can afford to retire without Social Security.

3. There is longevity in my family, and I am healthy.

4. I’m good at math and a successful money manager.

5. I am married.

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Mostly true… or false?

True

It might make sense to delay your Social Security application.

False

You may be a candidate for claiming Social Security at retirement or at age 62 (whichever is later).

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I plan to work past age 62

• Earnings test to full retirement age ($15,720)

–$1 reduction for $2 earned above limit

• At full retirement age, earnings test ends

• CSRS employees not affected by WEP or GPO

• Benefit continues to grow

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I don’t plan to work past age 62

• Social Security is one part of the three parts of FERS - you may need the income to afford to retire!

• Social Security is an actuarial benefit…

– smaller benefit more years

– larger benefit fewer years

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Afford retirement without Social Security

• CSRS or FERS covers living expenses

• Additional income from TSP or other investments

• Social Security provides less replacement income for higher wage earners

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Cannot afford retirement without Social Security

• Social Security is tilted toward the low-wage earner. • Social Security can replace more of your wages if

you had average or low income. • Social Security replaces about 40% of an average

wage earner’s earnings.

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Longevity factors

• A person's life span is thought to be largely determined by the combined effects of genetics and environmental factors.

• Twin studies, however, suggest genetics only

account for approximately 20 to 30 percent of an individual's chance of surviving to age 85.

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I am not in good health

65 75 85 95

Single with average earnings history

Age 62

($1,305)

$46,980 $203,580 $360,180 $516,780

Age 66

($1,740)

$0 $187,920 $396,720 $605,520

Age 70

($2,300)

$0 $138,000 $414,000 $690,000

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I am good at Math

Claiming

age:

Monthly / yearly amount 3% inflation /

benefit at 80

Option

One

62 $750 / month x 12 = $9,000 /

year

$1,276 / month or

$15,321.90 / year

And have

$15,321.90 -

$25,689.05 in the

“bank”

(invest one year

of benefits at 62)

63 with 3%

inflation

$772.50 / month x 12 =

$9,270 / year

Invest $9,000 at 6% for 18 years: $25,689.05

Invest $9,000 at 5% for 18 years: $21,659.57

Invest $9,000 at 3% for 18 years: $15,321.90

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I am good at Math

Claiming

age:

Monthly / yearly

amount

3% inflation /

benefit at 80

Option

Two

3% inflation

and delay

to age 63

$824 / month x 12 =

$9,880 / year

$16,330.13

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Not good at math?

• Computer models

• Education

• Hire professional

• More likely to follow the crowd / current hype

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I am married

While there are two of you, finances are good… but what happens when there is one of you? • One of you delay to earn delayed retirement credits up to 32%

– Delayed credits are included in widow’s benefits • Other option… both start at age 62 and invest the proceeds for surviving

spouse – Lump sum of invested benefits left for surviving spouse

Dependent Spouse: • Worker: $1,000 • Spousal benefit: up

to $500

Dual Entitlement: Spouse 1: $1,000 or $700 Spouse 2: $1,400 or $500

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I am single

• Never married – Independent –Social Security may provide significant

retirement income

• Widowed –Option to receive widow’s benefit

• Divorced –Dual entitlement

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What Is Deemed Filing?

• If you are eligible for your own “earned” benefit and a spousal benefit, Social Security considers that you are filing for both benefits.

• You will receive the higher of the benefits that you are entitled to receive.

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Deemed Filing Rules Changing

• Restrict your application

to spousal benefits

• Delay your own earned

benefit

• If you reach age 62

before January 2, 2016

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Scenario

Mike

Age 62

$1,800

Begins benefits

May 2016

Cindy

Age 64

$500

She can: • Receive higher spousal

benefit (less than $900)

• Continue receiving her benefit $500

Because Cindy was 62 before January 2, 2016, she may file for her spouse’s benefits now or at a future date if she chooses.

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File and Suspend Deadline

Individuals who have already

requested, or who request

voluntary suspension before

April 30, 2016, are not

affected by the changes.

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Scenario

Paul (age 67) Judy (66)

Earned Benefit $1,800

Spousal Benefit $900

Suspends benefit July 2016 $0

Resumes benefit January 2017

$1,800 + COLA +

delayed credit

January 2017

$900 + COLA

Prior to the legislation, Judy could have continued to receive

spousal benefit when Paul suspended his benefit

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Scenario

• FRA in May 2016, requests voluntary suspension

• Suspend benefits beginning June 2016

• December 2016, he has a life-altering event

• Earliest benefits resume is January 2017

Prior to the new legislation, benefits would have been

reinstated back to June 2016, which would have generated

a lump-sum payment for the suspense period.

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What About Medicare?

• Apply parts A & B within 3 months of age 65

• Delay part B if covered by current employment health insurance

• www.ssa.gov or 1-800-772-1213

• $121.80 / month or more (higher income)

• $121.80 / month or less (if withheld from Social Security benefit)

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If your yearly income in 2014 (for what you pay in 2016) was You pay

(2016)

Part B File individual

tax return

File joint tax

return

File married & separate

tax return

$85,000 or less $170,000 or less $85,000 or less $121.80

above $85,000 up

to $107,000

above $170,000

up to $214,000 Not applicable $170.50

above $107,000

up to $160,000

above $214,000

up to $320,000 Not applicable $243.60

above $160,000

up to $214,000

above $320,000

up to $428,000

above $85,000 and up to

$129,000 $316.70

above $214,000 above $428,000 above $129,000 $389.80

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Windfall Elimination Provision

• Affects earned SSA of individuals who receive a pension from work not covered by Social Security, i.e., CSRS

• Modified SSA formula

• Exception for 20+ years of “substantial” earnings ($22,050 - 2016)

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WEP

40% X $856 = $342.40

32% X $1,721 = $550.72

15% X $0 = $0

Monthly benefit at age 66 $893.12

Monthly benefit at age 62 $669.84

Monthly benefit without the WEP at age 66 $1,321.20

Monthly benefit at age 62 without the WEP $990.90

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Government Pension Offset

• Reduces the spousal SS benefit by $2 for every $3 in CSRS benefit

• Opponents: GPO is imprecise and unfair

• Defenders: Preserves original intent of supporting financially dependent spouses and also eliminates unfair advantage for Government (CSRS) spouses compared with spouses who are subject to the dual entitlement rule

• Does not apply to FERS employees

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GPO

Monthly

CSRS

Joan (66)

Monthly

SSA Joan

Earned / Spousal / Widows

Jim

(SSA)

$4,612

(reduced SBP)

$893.12 (Joan’s Earned SSA)

$1,200 (Spousal benefit) - $3,075 = $0

$2,400 (age 66)

GPO: 2/3 of $4,612 = $3,075 Joan’s spousal / widow’s

benefits are offset by 2/3 of her CSRS retirement benefit.

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GPO

Monthly

CSRS

Joan (66)

Monthly

SSA Joan

Earned / Spousal / Widows

Jim (SSA)

$5,100 (unreduced

for SBP)

$893.12 (Joan’s Earned SSA)

$2,400 (Widow’s Benefit) - $3,396 =

$0

$0 (deceased)

GPO: 2/3 of $5,100 = $3,396 Joan’s spousal / widow’s benefits are

offset by 2/3 of her CSRS retirement benefit.

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GPO

Monthly CSRS

Joan (66)

Jim

SSA

Jim

SSA and CSRS Survivor

Benefit

$0 (Deceased) $2,400 $2,805 (CSRS Survivor benefit –

55% of $5,100)

GPO: Does not impact surviving spouse of CSRS retiree

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