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OCTOBER, 1914. Soutb €tbical South Place, Finsbury, E.C. I!)blect of the Society. "T he Object of Ihe Society is the cultivation of a rational religious sentiment, the study of ethical principles, and the promotion of human welfare, in harmony with advancing knowledge. " MEMBERSHIV. , Any person in sympathy with the Object of the Sooiet}' is cordially invited to beco",. n Member. Particulars of Membership may b. obtained ID the Library before and afkr tile Ilundny serVices, or on npplicntion to the Hon. Registrar, Miss F. BECIUM, 62 , Durl sto n Itoad, Clnpton, N .E. Any person inter ested in the Society's work but not wishing to become a Member, may join ns no .Associnte. Particulars may be obtained from the Hon. Registrar as above. SUNDAY MORNING SERVICES. The following DISCOURSES will be delivered on Sunday mornings, Service beginning at ELEVEN O'CLOCK. Sept. 27. - GRAHAM WALLAS, M A. - National Thought and Will in Times of Crisis. ,\ nth ems ll JnlllS { I. 'Yhut of thf' nig-ilt., ,,,':\, tchmnn? 2. Come ever slJIiling Jib l' r ty ... { No.218. ShinC', YC' stur.s of h l'UVl'll. Xo, 92. 0 beautiful my countrJ. Oct . 4. - JOHN A. HOBSON, M.A.- The Psychology of Journalism. Anthems H ym ll s { 1. Light. hght in darkness .. . . .. 2. Tho' I 8penk with the tongue.s of llH.'!l { No. 1. Be true to every inmost thought. No . 5. Bri tain's first poet, Oct. ll. - HERBERT BURROWS. - The Ethical Citizen. Ant h ems {1. If I stoop into [I da rk , tremendo us sen. tcnc h ns to nUlllber o ur dn,vs ... Hymns { NO. 84 . Who will slty tile world i. dying? (first t un e) . No . ],et in lI ght-t he holy light. Oct 18. -JJ SEPH McCABE.-The Place of War in History. Anthellls Hymn s { 1. Call forth po\\ors C' Judos Mn ec"bcui ") 2. Doth not wIsdom cry nio ud .. , ... ' .. { No 20tl. Hu sh the loud co nn oll 's ronr . No: 114. ] ,et the fool recite the triumphs. Oct. 25. - S. K. RATCLH'FE. - The Prussian Mind and its Makers. ,.' UltlICllIS U)mllB r 1. Hi se I for the day is passing INo. 53) 12. Never fr om lip. of cunning fell .. . , No. 112. 'l'berc is in every llUmn.n heart. 1 So.2]V. Honour to him who frN'ly gives. TrOllRHcllr !land,·, lllUl llJlf'l Bra/oll B Dc La c!I Mozart HOlldl'l Hak ; II(J COW"I 'l' l'ou Bselio Visitors are invited to obtain information regarding the Society in tht Library on Sunda y mornings. A Collection is made at each Service, to enable those present to cOt/tribute to the exp enses of the Society . Oyclists desiring to attend tli. Services ar e informed that the Committee mucH arrangements tor housinv their machines in tile basement. The Building is to be let for Meetings , etc, Forms of Application may be had of the Caretaker , 11. South Place, E.C. i_and when filled up should be sent to Mr . N. Lidstone, 96, Blackstock Road, Flll8bury Park, N. The Chapel is licensed for Marriages. Arrangements can be made for the conduct of Funeral Services on application to the secretary.

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Page 1: Soutb Plac~ €tbical Soci~tp, South Place, Finsbury, E.C

OCTOBER, 1914.

Soutb Plac~ €tbical Soci~tp, South Place, Finsbury, E.C.

I!)blect of the Society. "The Object of Ihe Society is the cultivation of a rational religious sentiment, the study of ethical principles, and the promotion of human welfare, in harmony with advancing knowledge."

MEMBERSHIV. , Any person in sympathy with the Object of the Sooiet}' is cordially invited to beco",.

n Member. Particulars of Membership may b. obtained ID the Library before and afkr tile Ilundny serVices, or on npplicntion to the Hon. Registrar, Miss F. BECIUM, 62 , Durlsto n Itoad, Clnpton, N .E.

Any person interested in th e Society's work but not wishing to become a Member, may join ns no .Associnte. Particulars may be obtained from the Hon. Registrar as above.

SUNDAY MORNING SERVICES. The following DISCOURSES will be delivered on Sunday mornings,

Service beginning at ELEVEN O'CLOCK.

Sept. 27. - GRAHAM WALLAS, M A. - National Thought and Will in Times of Crisis.

,\ nthems

llJnlllS

{I. 'Yhut of thf' nig-ilt., ,,,':\,tchmnn? 2. Come ever s lJIilin g Jib l' r ty ...

{No.218. ShinC', YC' stur.s of h l'UVl'll. Xo, 92. 0 beautiful my countrJ.

Oct. 4.- JOHN A. HOBSON, M.A. - The Psychology of Journalism.

Anthems

H ym ll s

{ 1. Light. hght in darkness .. . . .. 2. Tho' I 8penk with the tongue.s of llH.'!l

{No. 1. Be true to every inmost thought. No . 5. Bri tain's first poet,

Oct. ll. - HERBERT BURROWS. - The Ethical Citizen. Anthems {1. If I stoop into [I da rk , tremendous sen.

~. ~o tcnc h ns to nUlllber our dn,vs ...

Hymns {NO. 84. Who will slty tile world i. dying? (first tun e) . No . ~. ],et in lIght-the holy light.

Oct 18.- J J SEPH McCABE.-The Place of War in History.

Anthellls

Hymn s

{ 1. Call forth ~hy po\\ors C' Judos Mn ec"bcui ") 2. Doth not wIsdom cry nioud .. , ... ' ..

{No 20tl. Hu sh the loud co nnoll 's ronr. No: 114. ] ,et the fool recite the triumphs.

Oct. 25. - S. K. RATCLH'FE. - The Prussian Mind and its Makers.

,.'UltlICllIS

U)mllB

r 1. Hise I for the day is passing INo. 53) 12. Never from lip. of cunning fell .. . , No. 112. 'l'berc is in every llUmn.n heart. 1 So.2]V. Honour to him who frN'ly gives.

TrOllRHcllr !land,·,

lllUlllJlf'l Bra/oll B

Dc La c!I Mozart

HOlldl'l Hak ; II(J

COW"I 'l'l'ouBselio

Visitors are invited to obtain information regarding the Society in tht Library on Sunday mornings.

A Collection is made at each S ervice, to enable those present to cOt/tribute to the expenses of the Society.

Oyclists desiring to attend tli. Services are informed that the Committee hu~e mucH arrangements tor housinv their machines in tile basement.

The Building is to be let for Meetings, etc, Forms of Application may be had of the Caretaker, 11. South Place, E.C. i_and when filled up should be sent to Mr. N. Lidstone, 96, Blackstock Road, Flll8bury Park, N.

The Chapel is licensed for Marriages. Arrangements can be made for the conduct of Funeral Services on application

to the secretary.

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Sunday School.

The Ohildren meet at Armfteld's Hotel, ol'po'ite the OHAPEL, .ve'7 Sonday Hornln~ at 11, and their lesson is given during the d18course. Members and fnends wishing then ohildren to attend school are requested to communicate with the Seoretary.

The Ohildren's Lihrary, In the closs·room onr the Vestry, is open every Sunday Mol'1\ Ing before and alter the service. HOII. Librarian, MISS G1UCl GOWING.

Oot. 4.-Mr. F. J. Gould. Oot. n .-Mr. W. Var!an, .. First Aid" I. Oct. IS.-Miss F. A. Law. Oct. 25.-Mr. W. Varian, .. FIrst Aid" II.

Viaito .. bringing children to the Snnday Morning services are cordial\y invited to al\ow them to !>ttend the Ohildren'. les.on .

Lending Library. Tbe Lending Libury i. open free to Members of the Society and Season Ticket Holdere

cn Sunday mornings before and after the Services. As.ooiate. and Non·Members of the Sooiety m!>y under certain oondition. be grMted the us. 01 the Library npon payment 01 .. subsoription of Z •. 6d. per .. nnum. The Catalogue, including a snpplement for 1905·7, i. on sale, prics Bd. Subscriptions towards ths purohase and repair 01 books are invited.

{His. HAay R.WLfNGS, 406, Hare Street, Haokney, N.E.

Hon. Librarian. W ALLIS MANSFORD, Oh~rry Tree Oourt, 59, Alderegate Street, E.C.

Rambles,

October 3.-Cuffiey and Northaw, - Conducted by Mr. S. R WOOLITOUSl:. Meet .. t .hnsbnry l'nl'k ror 2.20 tmin. Rumblers ' tickets to ClIllIey, Is. Id. ret llrn.

October lO. - Ch!pstead Valley.-Condllctcd by Mr. F. M. O"mn·. Meet at London l::ITldl':O (S.B. &, c.n.), 2.10 for 2.2Q trnin to Conlsdon. Cheap r etnrn, Is. id.

October 17.-Totterldge and EdgWare.-Condllcted Ill' Mr. W. ~'. WTXCF.Y. Train from Finsbury l'>urk , 2.35. Take bingle tiCKet to Tottericlge. (Or King's Cross Met., 2.23,)

October 24, - Potter's Bar and South Mimms. - COllducted by MIss n. M. FAlR1U.U: Meet fit FinsbnTY Pnrk Stntion for 2.3G rust trnin (llnmbler's ticket, Is. 1£1,) or King's eros~, 2.:iU,

j(nmblcrs ore rcquestE'<l to confirm the times of trains in ('nsC' of any nlterotions.

Conrse 'riokets for the Twenty -eighth Season, 2s. 6d. enob, may be had of the

Sop!,. Oct.

No\'.

Dec.

Tlon. Sec .• " ', rr. 'YIXCl:Y, WJ. (:ro'vrlnnc1s Hand, Pnlmcr's Orecn. N.

Discussions for the Study of RatiQnallsm and Ethics.

(IIn r' e,' the nu"pices of tbe R.P.A., Ltd., Illd the South Place Ethical Society).

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At South Place Chapel, South Plnce, E.C , wocldy, on ann n[ter Wednesday, September 16, l nl,l, at 7.:lO pm.

Mn. J. C. MILLTNGTON-"Zo,," OF L'FE." ~llt. J. 'r. MUSTAHD-"MuJ.'I·IP1.YJ'G "' Ill; U'I'I'I· ... MH. WALLIS MANSFOHD-" TilE NA'L'tn',u. O'''''1.00'L ., ]\{". L. J. SIMONS-"FAcr:w FAc'I''': ' M". J. Jt. DUNCANSON-" A D"FENCE OF VIVI'EC'l'ION." Mu. R. nARDING-"UA'l'IO"Al.T"F.D CA'nlOT.ICIS,,-A Pl.I;A FOIL 'rIIF. UF.TEliTIOl<

('1]0' ART AZ\I) HITU.,H .. •

J\I". J. J. MORPIJY-" Tlt~ lIL1.RE'S NJC~'l' OF DF.'I'r.:R"t"TS\f." MR. HERBElt'l' nUlmoWS-"SClr.:l<1'IFTO nET.WIn"." MR. A. S. TOMS-'·SHOUf.D E 'I'ltrCIS1" Jorli 1'IIE ORl'fTODOX ClfURCltF. ?" MH. W. BETTS-" IN DEF1;liCF. OF CrmTS'l'TANI1'Y." Mr. W. 11. SOUTllON-" JUS1'TCF." ?dIS lU~ES-" HA 'J'IONAI.Is:'.r ~\s A.. HEL[(Iro~. "

Those willing to gh'e papers SbOll III sond their names and nddresses to the Hon. Secretary, C. J. l:lOT~Tu\'RD, 11 Looe," rfhe AVClll1C, Chingford.

ADXfrSSION FlmE. Members of Other Societies Invited.

For the greater cODvenience of members, associates, and friends, the Library is open from 7 to 7.30 on the Discussion evenings, for the borrowing and exchange of books and for accepting new subscribers,

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3 RambleJ's' SoiJ'ee.

'1'111' Autumn Soiree will be h Id nt Elouth Pine<! on Thursdny, October 15. The usunl 001. Icction of llUJublers ' photographs will be on view, nnd the See retnry will be very plensed to receive photogra.{>hs lo r exhibition, which will be- cArefully looked ofteT and Tt!tu rn('d.

Among other mtcresting items will be some Hnmbhng Remnrks by Mr. S. IT. \\'ooLIlOe"" and sougs by Mi •• Oll.er. GOWING nnd Mr. H. B. (JOWING.

Ten. nnd co fr l'(' , i-ID.30. J'hotographs for exhibition should he addressed to me nt outh Plnce Chnpel.

W. T. \\'rxcF.Y, SeNelarl/. The usunl Monthly ROj1'l~(,8 of th(' SoC'i!lty "ill not commence un til Novem'lli'r, nnd the

()omlllitt t'(\ ther('fol'C! 'cordiully invit.(' nil nil'lll l~r8 find fri 'nds of the Socirty, wht'theT Hnmblpr. or not.

Ramblers' Dances

'rlu.' tWl'ntY·9l'venth bNlson of tll£,'/:i{' <ianC'!'8 will IJ (, 1ll'1<1 at the Fond Reform RC"stnurnnt , 2 nnd 3, Fut'l1lvnl Strc('t, Holhnrn, R.O., on tlH' foll ow ing datE'S: October 31, NovembPl' ]., \lnd 28, nnd December 12, 1914. j)llnOlng, 7.SI) 11 p.nf. Tickrts (including light refresh. lll£'ntS), 2s. t.'Rell. Fnrthel' pnrti('ulnrs nnel tic'kcts ('nn he obtninl'd from the

11011. S,·e., n . .M. FllIlfI\I,", 8, ~oHborongh R ond, Strond r .... n . N.

Sunday r;>opulaJ' eoncerts (ebamber Music).

'I'h£> rr WF.NTy·Nnrrn . F.ASON will hcg-i n on Sun<1ny, Ort.obe r 4, .at 7 p.m., \yhl'u tlle GSnth Conrert will t"",· plnel'.

The following nre the arrnnll"ments for October:

October 4.-i:!VHUBERT CONOEWr. lItHlrl/mentali.,.: 'l'he ,n unders Qnnrtet ("Messr s .. Tohn Snunders. Chnrlrs \\"oo<1house, Ernest Youg., Chnrles JI . Ornbbe), "Mr. Hollert Grimson. PialloloTte: Mr. l1irhnrd R. Wnlthew. Vocali8t: Mr. (lordon Olenthe r. '1'ha progrnmmc will jnclude the String Quintet, tho " \Ynnclercr" Funtnsia. fOl' Pinno, nnd tile rillno 'Pr io in B Hil t. •

October 11. IIlBtrlLm entnUxl.: The London . tring Quartet (Messrs. Albert E. ,nmmons. Thomas W. P etre, H. "'aldo Wnrner, O. Wnl"l\' i('k Evnns). PiallolMtc : Miss Win ifrN] Ohrlstio. r oeali, ' . Miss J ean Wate rsl on . .t1 ccompan;8t : Miss Lonie neath. The programme will inrllldl1 , chu licrt'-s Far ing QlInrtet in J) minor nnd Cesar Franck's Piano Quintet.

Oeteber 1. Jllstrumentalist8: The Snunders Quartet. Pillnoforte: Senor Sourlno. Vocat;st: M.dame Sobrino. 'J he progmmme will include Brahms' Piano Quintet and 1\l eo,1<· I.soh,,·8 Rtring Qunrtet ill E ft"t , Op. 12.

Octol"'r 2.;.- 'C.I "])J" .\ ,lA" CONCEI1'I'. ],ul'· IIII1I'lIta li.tR: TIH' London Sh'intr quartet. 1'lOlIolorl". Miss lv~' Pnrkin. VOI'o/"I: The progrnmm'e Will 11lclude Hin<1lng's Pin no Quintet nnd Rven dbcn 's String QnnrtC't.

:Miss Marie Ihema will appear on Novemher. 1. The H~Jlort of the Twenty·eighth Re •• on i. nOli" rendy.

Doors open at, 6.30 pm. ConcOl·ts at 7 p.m. Admission free, wit.h Collection.

Transrerable Ticket 2 •. 6·\. (or 3s. 6d. Includiug Prog"amme weekly by post), admit.ting to the Reservcd Senta cvcry Sunday ror the ITalf Season from October 4 to Dccomber20 inclnsive. Programme Bubscrip t ion for Half Season, ]s. tiel.

Mr. Richard IT. Waltbe w's '1'hreo Lectures on " The Development or Ohnmber Music' mILy be hart , price Od. net. complete.

OOIllOlittc Meeting'S on O(,tobl'l' I und 18, nt G Jl.l11.

Hon. TrcaBUrcT.-FRANlI A. HAWRIN8, 13, Tburlow Pnrk Road, Dulwieh, S.E. Hon. Sccrctar/l.-ALFREll J. CLEMENTS, 25, Cnmdcn Rond, N.W.

(!)rchestra. Conductor: Mr. Richard H. Walthew.

The Eig hte nth, cnson will open on Friday evening, October 2. The Orchestrn will meet wcekly on Friday evpni ngs. l>rnetic('s from i till 9. Subscription for &(>080n (Octoher 2 1111 ItInrrh 26), 10s. • L udi('S nnd g''llutlr men , botl. string Hnc] wind plnyers, <1ca.sirolls of j oi ning nre invih'U

to (lnmmttnirntL' witll onc of the S('cretnl'ieti,

E. J. FATH11A1.r., UndRrld , Windmill I," ne, SOl1thol1. 11 . O. S. lJ I(1{S. 27 , Ohenl.si<l.'. RD .

. 'J'lI e OllNr:nn OO:\!AIT'T" r£~ will mc('t on ' I' hursday, October 1. Cor l'espondrnco d('nling WtU , mntters for eon sule rn.tlOn should be forwnrd ed to O. J. PO'.I.Allll nt the enrliest possihle moment. .All matters relnting to finnnce should be addressed te the Treasurer.

Seeretnries of sub· committee. are noti fied that handbills intended to be circulated with the Monthly LiBt sbo-ud be delivered to The Utopia Press, 44, Worship Street, E .O. It is hoped that those secretarie" who have addr.ssea 01 persons interested III their work (other tb .... Members, Associates, or Season Tioket Holders) will commnnioate tbem, with " view to Inoh perlona r eoeiving the Monthly Lilt regnlarly.

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NOTES AND COMMENTS.

Ramblers' Dances. IT has been decided to continue these dances during the coming season, and the following dates have been fixed, viz.: October 3J, November J4 and 28, and December 12. The. dances will be held in the Hall of the Food Reform Restaurant, Furnival Street, Holborn (which can be reached easily from all parts by train or 'bus), 7.30 to I l. Tickets, 2S.

It having been suggested that owing to the prevail ing cir­cumstances, the dances might not be sufficiently well attended this season, it was decided, after consultation with the General Committee, to fix only the above dates for the present, but should the attendance at these four be satisfactory, further dances will be arranged after Christmas. It is therefore hoped that all ramblers and friends who are interested in their con. tinuance will attend as often as possible.

Any further particulars may be obtained from Miss H. M. Fairhall, Hon. Sec., 8, Scarborough Road, troud Green,

Socialism and the War.* " BE it or be it not true that Man is shapen in iniquity and con· ceived in sin, it is unquestionably true that Government is be· gotten of aggression and by aggression. In small undeveloped societies where for ages complete peace has continued, there exists nothing like what we call Government: no coercive agency, but mere honorary headshi\ , if any headship at all. In these excettional communities, un aggressive and from special causes unaggressed upon, there is so little deviation from the virtues of truth f ulness, honesly, justice, and gene· rosity I that nothing beyond an occasional expression of public opinion by informally-assembled elders is needful. on­versely, we find proofs that, at first recognised but temporarily during leadership in war, the authority of a chief is per. manently established by continuity of war, and grows strong where successful aggression ends in subjection of neighbour. ing tribes. And thence onwards, examples furnished by all races put beyond doubt the truth that the coercive power of

.. To avoid misunderstanding, it should be stated that this article was written before the 20th September, and must therefore not be taken as in any sense a reply to Mr. Hobson's discoul·. e delivered on that day.

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5 the chief, developing into king, and king of kings Ca frequent title in the ancient East), becomes great in proportion as conquest becomes habitual and the union of subdued nations extensive. Comparisons disclpse a further truth which should be ever present to us-the truth that the aggressiveness of the ' ruling power inside a society increases with :its aggressiveness outside the society. As, to make an efficient army, the soldiers in their several grades must be subordinate to the commander, so, to make an efficient fighting community, must the citizens be subordinate to the ruling power. - They must furnish recruits to the extent demanded, and yield up whatever property is r qu ired.

" An obvious imrl ication is that the ethics of Government, origi nally identical with the ethics of war, must long remain akin to them, and can diverge from them only as warlike activities and preparations become less. Current evidence shows this. At present on the Continent the citizen is free only "vhen his services as a soldier are not demanded, and during the rest of his lif he is largely enslaved in supporting the mil itary organisation. Even .among ourselves a serious war would, by the necessitated conscription, suspend the liberties ' of large numbers and trench on the liberties of the rest, by taking from them, through taxes, whatever supplies were needed-that is, forcing them to labour so many days more for the State. Inevitably the established code of conduct In

the dealings of Governments with citizens must be allied to their code of conduct in their dealings with one another."

Such are the opening sentences of "The Sins of Legis­lators," the third essay in Herbert Spencer's" The Man versus the State," apd they are qu ted here as giving the answer to the arguments of Socialists with respect to the flood of legis­lation to which the present war has given rise. Vie are told that legislation which is so easily passed for the destructive purposes of war should be equally easy for the constructive Ptlrroses of peace, and that the only thing that makes :it less easy is the selfishness of the governing classes. The real reason,., of course, as Spencer has shown, why Socialistic legislation is easy in time of war and difficult in time of peace is that it is appropriate to the military regime and not appropriate to the industrial regime. No Individualist has ever contended that Individualism is either possible or desirable in a society whose main business is war. Spencer's political views were based upon the fact-more obvious perhaps when he wrote than it is now-

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that thf' European na~ions and those of European descent, particularly England and the United tates, had ceased to regard war as the object to which the chief energies of a nation should be devoted; but he clearly recognised that when a nation is at war it must do what is necessary to ensure success, and the main thing necessary is the subordination of the individual to the governing power. If Socialists wish inter­fering legislation to be as easily passed after the war as it is now, there is one way, and one way only, in which they can secure that result: they must join with Lord Roberts and the conscriptionists to establish militarism as the permanent policy of the country. I believe that the hope and desire of a majority of Englishmen is that this war should result in a great reduction of the truly horrible expenditure of all the European Powers (ourselves included) on warlike preparations; but we should be blind indeed if we did not see that a large section of the onservative Party (though with many noble exceptions) looks to it as the means. by which militarism shall be once for all rivetted Jirmly on the neck of the nation. The German war lord is hateful to them because he is German, not because he is a war lord; we may be sure that they will strain every nerve to set up an even greater war lord here. Every new step towards Socialism helps to provide the essential condition of this in the subordination of the individual citizen; here, as always, we see that Toryism and ocialism are but two aspects of the same thing.

The argument for Socialism has been urged from another side, on the ground of the efficiency with which the railways ";.ve been managed since they were taken over by the State for the purposes of mobilisation. This, we are told, is an object lesson in railway nationalisation. There are two things that make the argument inapplicable. In the first place, there has been no tranfer in any real sense. All the old officials have been left in charge, and there has been no attempt to interfere with their management. In the second place, every­thing has had to give way to the necessities of mobilisation. Just as any man can govern in a state of siege, so any man can secure that a particular kind of traffic shall be promptly and efficiently handled if he is authorised to disregard every other consideration. This is not the way we want our railways managed in ordinary times, and in this regard recent events may be said to afford an argument against nationalisation. Army traffic is the favoured traffic now, and to that we are most

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0'£ us prepared to submit. How should we like it if the favoured traffic was determined by the balance of votes in the House of Commons, as it musl be once commercial principles are abandoned?

All these arguments, however, about efficiency, whether applied to railways, as they are now, or to the Post Office or any other Government department, are fundamentally unsound because they ignore the essential factors in the efficiency claimed. The standard of efficiency now is the standard set by the best managed private businesses; a Government depart­ment is praised or blamed as it approdches or falls short of that standard. If there were no longer that standard to appeal to, nothing could prevent a rapid deterioration in the quality of all Government services. Moreover, the men who manage Government departments are themselves the product of a society wQose organisat.ion is mainly individualist. The service of the State is only one among many forms of employ­ment that present themselve? to the young man looking round for a career, a form of employment for which he specially trains himself and to which he brings the same general notions of fair dealing as his contemporaries take into other occupa­tions. MoreQver-and this is a cop.sideration which w~ll often weigh where higher ones would not-the State official can in the last resort be discharged just as he could be from an ordinary commercial office. All this would be changed under Socialism. State service would no longer be chosen volun­tarily; there would be no other way of living. On the ot.her hand, there would be no means of getting rid of the in­competent; th~ State would hav-e to make the best it could of all of us. I have heard :r."Ir. Bernard Shaw say that the incom­petent would be left to star ye ; but he must have known quite well that such a thing as a Socialist State leaving anybody to st.arve would be unthinkable. The truth is that the establish­ment of Socialism would be what. the late J. H. Levy used to call" selling out the moral capital of the race." There are certain valuable qualities which have naturally been fostered by an individualist state of society. The State can un­doubtedly get the benefit of those qualities so long as there is a supply of men brought up under the conditions that pro­duced them; but it is inconceivable that they should long survive the generation in which the Socialist State was established.

F. W. R.

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H~UlleRaRY epPIC!BRS.

Trea,urer F. \V. RE.lD, 65, llo.rley Road , llarlesctclI, N. 'V.

. ( Mr •. C. FLtTOntR SMITH, 17, Sydenbam Park, S.E. Secrctaru8 ... 1. C. J ]>or~ I.A.Ro. t'Looe," 'Ihe Avenue, Chingford.

/legistrar of Mcmbcrs ana} Mis. F. BI: ITA". 62, Durl.ton RO/ul, Clapton. N.B. I1ssoclatel ........ .

Sttnday Lectw'e Secretary W. HAWLINGS, 406, Mare Street, Hackney, N.B.

b'a/tor of MOlltllly List.. . IV . L. MARTIN, 10. Lincoln Road, East Finchley, N.

{ Mi •• MARY RAWLING", 406 . Mare Street, Hackney, N.E .

L,brortan, ... ,. ,.. '" W.Ht18 MA:NSfOUD, Ch erry Tree Court, 6S, AJderai:'ste Street, E.O

7'rDQ8UrBr. ana Trustee8 {J. n. CAR1''';R, 01rl naIl. Wa1lin,rton, Surrey. of tile Rebtti/dillU FUlld E. OUNNINGlIAlI, 52, Bow Lano, Oheapsidc, E.O.

JODN ALDRED. Illrss H. M. FAIRSALL E. J. FAmHALL. A.. E. FENTON. J. HALLA". W. T. HAnVEY. MIR9 F. A.. I,Aw.

Bullding Concert Discussion Finance Members ... MusiC Publications Rambles ... Season Ticket SOiree Sunday School ...

Organist New Associate:

Members of General eommittee. N. LIDSTONE. MRS. LIDSTONE. I1RS. A. LISTER. M ns. HOLYOAKE mARSs F. M. OVERY. MRS. E. G. OVERY . C. J. POLLARD.

E. POLLAnD. F. W. READ. MRS. T. AUIIYN. 1\1 RS. C. FI.E'l'CJI J<~n '!I'I'll W. C. WADE. E. WULIAlIS. W. T. WaCEY.

Secretaries of Sub.eommittees. F. HEnnERT MANBFORD. " "aIden, Kingsend, Ruislip. Ar.r nED J CI.t!MENTS, 25, Cnmden Rond , N .\V. C. J. POLLARD, Looe, The Avenue, Chingford. IV. C. WADE, 67, Pethcrton Rand, N. E . illl.I" 31. Portland Hoad, Fin, bnry Park, N. FRANK A. HAWKIN8, 13, Thurlow Par" Road. Dulwioh. S.E. E. WII.LtHfR, S3, Ashtead Rand , Upper Cinpton, N.E. \V. '1'. " ' IxeET, 63, Grovclnnds nand. Pnlmcrs Green, N. W. T. WrxC&Y, 69, Oro.eland. Road, Pnlmer. Or.on, 1>1

{ Mi.s F. A.. LAW, 59, Montpclicr Rand, Peckham, .E Mrs. ST. AUOIN, 18, Emperor's Gnte, S.W. H. >nTB WEIlSTEn, 53. Lornine. Hand. H olloway, N.

}lrs. C. EYLEU. 15, Ha.utcvillc Court Gardens, 'tu,mford Brook.

Changes of Address: Mr. and Mr •. P. S. DrxON to Frontino and Bolivia Mines, La Salada, c/o Em!>reba

Hnusellticu, Bnrra.n'luilla, HelJublic of Colombia, 'outh Amcl'icll. Mr. nnd ~Irs. ED"'~.A. n.D P OLLARD to Croft Longe, Snakes 1.ane, Woodforc1 Green , E:::»t:ex. Miss B. M. ilol'Ln to T .F.N.S .• Downing Oollege, O.unbridg'c. Mr. R. H. r leNEns to 3, Oharll's Street, yclenhnm, S. E.

lH1\RY FelR eleT~BER.

OCTOBER Genera.l Committee meets 7 ".m.

z Orche, lra Pr.lclice 7 p.l11 . 3 I{amble: Curneyand orthaw

-FinsburyPark 2.20 p.m. 4 Service & Sunday School II a .m. -+ Schubert Concert 7 p.l11. 7 Discussion ... 7.30 p .m. 9 Orchestra Pr ,ctice 7 [1.111 .

10 Ramble: Chip tead Valley -London Bridge

(S.E. & C.R.) ... 2.10 p.m. 11 Service & Sunday School 11 a.m. II Popular Concel t ... 7 p.m 14 Discussion .. ·7·30 [1.m. IS Ramblers' Soiree 7 pm. 16 Orchestra Practice 7 ['.m.

OCTOBER

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17 Ramble: Totteridge and Edgware -Finsbury Park ... 2.35 p.l11. -King's Cros (l\[eU 2.23 p.m.

18 Service & Sunday 'chool 1 la.m. 18 Popuhr Concert ... 7 p Ill. 21 Dicussion ... 7.30 [1.111. 23 Orcheslra Practice 7 [1.m. 2+ Ramble: Potters Bar and South

l\Jil11ll1s-Finsbury Park 2.36 p.m. King's Cross ... 2.30 p.l11.

25 Service & SuncJay School II a . l11.

2.') Scandinavian Concert 7 p.l11. 28 Discu 'S iOIl 730 p.m. 30 Orchest ra Pradice 7 [1.m. 3I Ramblers' Dance 7.30 [1 m.

N .B.-All communications for the Monthly List sllottld be forwarded NOT LATEn thall the 16th 0/ the pre.iolLB month to W. L. MARTIN. 10, Lincoln Road, Ea.t Finchley, N.