The AA-T Train

Time to get students on board!

Information for instructors, counselors & other transfer personnel

AKA: “STAR Act”: Student Transfer Achievement ReformCEC §66745-49 (“Ed Code”)CEC §66745-49 (“Ed Code”)Goals:

Increase CCC transfers with associate degrees Increase number of associate degrees awarded Reduce units/cost before & after transfer Smoother path to transfer to a CSU Guaranteed Admission to the CSU System Guarantee of just 60 units to complete a Bachelor’s Degree

egrees

Ed code §66745-49 Ed code §66745-49 updated to state: updated to state:

All CCCs must offer associate degrees for transfer (to CSU)

Degrees includeo 60 semester CSU-transferable o Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadtho Minimum 18 semester units in majoro No additional local requirements allowed – for Cabrillo,

No Multicultural course requirement

Academic Senates (CCC and CSU)CSU and CCC Chancellor’s OfficesC-IDCurriculum chairs Articulation officers Transfer Center DirectorsDiscipline faculty CounselorsAdministrators

112 colleges develop unique degrees in each major. . . OR

A concerted, statewide, intersegmental Transfer Model Curriculum (TMC)

1. Faculty discipline groups: • identify common lower division major preparation

(TMC)• define content for courses (C-ID course descriptors)

2. Discipline groups are intersegmental (CSU and CCC)• some UC involvement, too

3. Draft TMCs are vetted statewide (www.c-id.net) & faculty determined.

4. Drafts of Course descriptors (C-ID) vetted statewide5. CCCs develop TMC- aligned degrees (AA-T/AS-T) and

submit them to the CCCCO for approval.

Each CSU determines if the TMC is similar “Similar” means- if a transfer student arrives with the

AA-T/AS-T degree: Includes the TMC coursework (major) All lower-division GE

THEN the CSU campus can deliver the baccalaureate degree in 60 units. (60 + 60)

Some options/concentrations within majors may not be considered similar.

Upper-division GE must be part of the CSU 60 units. Any missing lower-division major preparation or American Institutions requirements may be included in the CSU 60 units

= BACHELOR’S DEGREE

60 units 60 units

The “Similar Degree Determination Process

CCC campuses build/modify a proposed degree which fits within the TMC template = AA-T/AS-T

CSU campuses review the TMC templates to determine whether the undergraduate preparation would allow a student to successfully complete the bachelor's degree within 60 additional units.

Campuses have been given strategies to get more majors and options into the “similar” category

Departments at each CSU determine “similarity” of each TMC to degree options

Some “similar” majors are limited to specific major concentrations or options.

Official repository for “similar” majors: www.sb1440.org

Streamline student transition from CCC to CSU

Earn AA-T or AS-T for completion of CSU GE-Breadth or IGETC and 18 units in major in the TMC-aligned degree

No other local CCC graduation requirements.

Enhanced CSU admission opportunities Guaranteed priority admission with junior status to a CSU campus

with “similar” major

After transfer to CSU, guaranteed degree completion within 60 semester units at the CSU

Lower cost to students and taxpayers

Access to out of area CSUs

GPA bump for impacted majors and/or campuses (Note: student may need to be more competitive)

New degrees are called Associate in Arts or Science in <major> for Transfer: AA-T or AS-T -

Degrees includeo 60 semester CSU-transferable units o Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadtho Minimum 18 semester units in majoro No additional local requirements allowed

Chancellor’s Office says that based on curriculum offered at your college in alignment with the TMC, CCCs will need to offer many more degrees

A “Degree with a Guarantee” …

What’s the Guarantee? (the fine print)

1. A student who completes an Associate’s Degree for Transfer at a California Community College is guaranteed admission to the California State University

No guarantee to any particular campus or program.  

2. The student is required to complete only 60 units at the university to achieve their Bachelor’s Degree

As long as they do not change their major or concentration or veer from the “roadmap”.

What’s the Guarantee? 2. AA-T/AS-T graduates who are admitted to a CSU program that has

been deemed similar to the Associate’s Degree for Transfer will be able to complete the Baccalaureate Degree in the similar option in the discipline within 60 semester or 90 quarter units

As long as the student successfully completes each required course without repeating them.

Or supplementing instruction with additional courses for minors or areas of emphasis. 

Continuous enrollment in the same academic major is required unless the student is on an approved leave of absence. 

To maintain the guarantee, continuous enrollment in the same academic major is required unless the student is on an approved leave of absence. 

After enrollment at a CSU campus begins, the guarantee is not transferable to another CSU campus. 

C-ID = Course Identification Numbering System Administered by the Academic Senate for CCC Facilitates the identification of comparable courses (“common course

numbering”) & increases articulation across all systems of higher education

Provides the infrastructure for TMCs & course substitution. Replaces the old “CAN” system. We articulate to course descriptors, not course to course ( a different

way to articulate). AOs send all your courses in new degrees to C-ID.org When a college has a C-ID approved course, then they have agreed to

accept all others with the same C-ID number.

www.c-id.net

We cannot submit for an AA-T/AS-T unless we have at least submitted for C-ID numbers for all CORE and LIST A courses on our proposed degree

C-ID approval usually requires changes to our Course Outlines of record. If only a text book update is required, we can work outside the regular

curriculum deadlines and calendar Other significant changes must happen within the regular curriculum deadlines

and calendar

THUS, it can take a between 6 months and 1 year to have a course ready to submit or re-submit for a C-ID number.

The approval time for the C-ID number once submitted can take up to 2 years! (we have History courses submitted for review in Fall of 2011 that have yet to be approved …

www.c-id.net

C-ID facilitates the identification of comparable courses (“common course numbering”) & increases articulation across all systems of higher education For example: Students can take a C-ID identified course at another

community college and use it toward our degree. Students can take one of our C-ID courses and use that course

toward a degree at another community college

www.c-id.net

Criminal Justice (Administration of Justice)

Art History Business Administration Communication Studies Early Childhood

Education English Geography - submitted History Kinesiology

Mathematics Music Psychology Philosophy - submitted Physics Political Science Sociology Spanish Theater

As of January, 2014

AnthropologyElementary

EducationStudio ArtJournalism?

College considering

New ASCCC statement on Reciprocity, Course Substitution and Credit by Exam—in light of AA-T and AS-T degrees

Counselors and evaluators can use C-ID for comparability.

External Sources of Credit (AP, CLEP, IB) Credit by Exam

Guaranteed admission to CSU system as a junior

“The California State University shall grant a student priority admission to his or her local California State University campus and to a program or major that is similar to his or her community college major or area of emphasis“

o “similar” major determined by CSU faculty- www.sb1440.org

o CSU cannot require students to repeat courses similar to those completed at CCC

AA-T and AS-T students admitted to CSU in a “similar” 120-unit BA/BS program are guaranteed to complete BA/BS in 60 semester units

The new 2013 law (SB 440) The new 2013 law (SB 440) says. . .says. . .

• If a CCC has offers a transferable degree in a discipline which has an approved TMC, the CCC must develop an AA-T/AS-T in that discipline

• The CCC has 18 months from the time said TMC is approved to develop the AA-T/AS-T

• TMC’s for “Areas of Emphasis” are coming• The CCC must market these degrees to students

Too Many Units ->60:

Computer Science

ChemistryBiology?? Don’t have all the

courses required for Core:GeologyJournalism ?

1. Know whether Cabrillo has a degree in place, or is developing a degree in your discipline.

Criminal Justice (Administration of Justice)

Art History Business Administration Communication Studies Early Childhood Education English Geography - submitted History Kinesiology

Mathematics Music Psychology Philosophy - submitted Physics Political Science Sociology Spanish Theater

As of January, 2014

Under-development: Anthropology Elementary Education Studio Art Journalism? College

considering

Have Issues:Too Many Units ->60: Computer Science Chemistry Biology?? Cabrillo doesn’t offer all the

courses required for Core: Geology Journalism ?

2. Understand the “similar major” piece

Students will benefit from these degrees only if they CSU they attend accepts the major as “similar”

This may include CSU majors that are not in the same discipline, e.g.

e.g. “Similar” to many Concentrations within a major

e.g. “Similar” to major(s) across discipline

This degree can work for anyone targeting a CSU

o Still need to use ASSIST.org AND see a Counselor!

The List B and C areas of these degrees have choices of courses for students … a student must choose the course that aligns with ASSIST articulation for the major at the CSU(s) to which they are applying.

It gets complicated!

Degree works especially well for students who…

oWant to earn AA/AS and prepare to transfer

However . . .

EVERY STUDENT FROM CABRILLO WHO IS TRANSFERRING SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A DEGREE, i.e. GRADUATE

oMay be a Liberal Arts and Sciences degree

AA-T/AS-T Degrees also work for students who:

oAre applying to a (non-local) CSUoAre applying to a CSU which has no articulation with your CCC (e.g. Fresno State)oAre applying to a CSU with “similar” majoroAre applying to impacted CSU (campus or major)

May also be strong preparation for other universities, e.g. Students attending a UC can achieve an AA-T/AS-T, as long as they have also completed all the requirements for the UC.

How are AA-T/AS-T degrees considered in admission?

CSU Campus Admissions Impaction Status

Similar Degree Similar Degree

Local Applicant Non-Local Applicant No Impaction Priority Admission

Min. 2.0 GPA(Ed. Code 66745)

Campus Impacted

Priority AdmissionMin. 2.0 GPA

(Ed. Code 66745)

Supplementary GPA Requirement

Additional .20 GPA Point

Program Impacted Supplementary GPA Requirement (Any CA Student)  Additional .10  GPA Point   (20 seats or more)Campus & Program Impacted Supplementary GPA Requirement (Any CA Student)  Additional .10  GPA Point   (20 seats or more)

A student at your college wants to study Communication at CSULA. Questions:Is the AA-T in this major offered at your

college?Is a similar major offered at CSULA?Is the major/campus impacted? Is your college in CSULA’s local

admission area?

What other ideas do you have for marketing these

degrees?

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More TMCs and local AA-T/AS-T degrees being developedAgricultural Plant SciencesHealth Science Information and Communication TechnologiesAreas of Emphasis Degrees

QUESTIONS?