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Bulletproof Radio Podcast #298, Collective Evolution

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Female: BulletproofRadio,astateofhighperformance.

DaveAsprey: It'sDaveAspreywithBulletproofRadio.Today'scoolfactofthedayisthat,itturnsoutthat

practicinggratitudeisaneconomicalthingtodo.Intwodifferentstudieswith243participants,theparticipantswhoare10%moregratefulthanaveragehad17.5%moresocialcapital.Now,ifyoulikemequestion,"Howtheheckdoyoumeasuresocialcapitalinaquantitativeway?"Theanswerwouldbe,itwasprobablynotaverygoodmeasurement,butnonetheless,gratitudemakesyoukickassforawholevarietyofreasons.SomethingI'vetalkedaboutintheBulletproofconference,andsomethingthatIbuildintomybedtimeritual,evenwithmykids,wherewenamethreethingswe'regratefulforeverysinglenight,becauseitdoesgoodthingsforournervoussystem.

ThereasonI'mbringingthatuptodayisthatyou'regoingtohearfromacoupleofguests,butoneoftheguestsisafriend,someoneIfirstmethereatBulletproofLabswhenitcameup,becausehesupportedMOLDY,thedocumentarythatImadeabouthowwaterdamagedbuildingsareaffectingpeoples'healthandperformancearoundtheworld.HecameupandtoldmethisprofoundstorythatendedupwithhimbeingonstageattheBulletproofconference.I'mtalkingaboutAnthonyColettiandhispartnerJoeMartino,whoareworkingtogetheronCollective-Evolution,whichisawebsitethathasalotofreallyvaluableinformationaboutconsciousness.ItwasAnthonywhohadaprofoundexperienceusingBulletprooftocomebackfrommanygunshotwounds.You'regoingtohearaboutthatinthisinterview,I'msure.AlsoIwanttotalkaboutthegrowthofagrassrootsorganizationthat'sreallybecomeoneofthemostpopularalternativemediaproductionandcommunityoutlets.

We'retalkingfull-lengtharticles,tonsofvideos,andliveeventswhichareallaboutraisingawarenessofhowtheworldworks,andtocreatemoreconsciousness.Ifyou'vebeenlisteningtoBulletproofRadioforawhile,youknowthatI'mallinonthatmovement,wheretheideathatyoucancontrolyourbiologybychangingtheworldaroundyou,howdoyoucontrolyourbiologyifyoudon'thaveanawarenessofwhatit'sdoing,andthatawarenessiscalledconsciousness.Thiswebsiteandthiswholecommunityisatcollective-evolution.com.Intoday'sshow,we'regoingtotalkaboutwhathappenswithallthesemultiplegunshotwoundsandhowAnthonygottowhereheistoday.We'regoingtotalkabouthowacommunityaspowerfulasCollective-Evolutionformed,andwhat'sinitforyou,whenyou'relistening,whydoyoucareaboutconsciousnessandhowdowemakeiteasier.Guys,welcometotheshow.

JoeMartino: Thanksforhavingus.

AnthonyColetti: Indeed,thanksforhavingus.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Anthony,saysomethingrealquick,sothatpeoplelisteningknowyourvoice.

AnthonyColetti: How'sitgoing?It'sAnthonyColettiherefromCollective-Evolution.


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DaveAsprey: Allright.Joe,giveusyourvoice.

JoeMartino: Howyouaredoing?It'sJoeMartino,founderofCollective-Evolution,greattobeonthe

show.

DaveAsprey: Allright.IfyouarewatchingthisontheYouTubechannels,bulletproofexec.com/youtube,youwillactuallybeabletoseetheseguys.Ifyou'relisteninginyourcar,you'resittingatworkandyou'relistening,that'scooltoo,sonowatleast,I'lldomybesttosortoutthenamesforyou.JoeisthefounderofCollective-Evolution,andAnthonyjoinedlater,aftersometimeasthebiggestmedicalmarijuanagrowerinToronto.Ifyou'veneverbeentoToronto,itisaginormouscity,thisisaprettybigthing.Let'ssee,whatelsedoIwanttosaytointroduceyouguys.Anthony,talktomeaboutthemultiplegunshotwounds,Iknowyoustartedreallywellbecauseyou'resittingrightuphereinthestudiowhenyoutoldme,"Iwasjustabouttofalloutofmychair."Whathappened?

AnthonyColetti: Iwasamedicalmarijuanagrower.Tobehonest,itcouldhavebeen…IcouldhavebeenoneofthebiggestonesinCanada.IwasbeinghumbleontheBulletproofstageandwithToronto.WhileIwasagrower,Iwasleavingabaronefatefulnightandahitmandressedallinwhitepoppedupoutofnowhere,beganshootingintothecar.Iwashitfivetimesinthecar.Igotoutofthecarandwentforadoublelegtakedown,likeaRoyceGracie.

DaveAsprey: You'reanMMAguy,gotit.

AnthonyColetti: I'manMMAguy.I'vebeendoingmartialartssinceIwasakid.Iwasshottwomoretimes,andthenIranbacktothebarwhereIleft,andIlaiddown,controlledmybreathingasIlearnedinmartialarts,andthenmynewlifebegan.

DaveAsprey: Fivegunshotwounds.Youactuallydidmanageto,itwashalfway,taketheguydown,soyouranaway.

AnthonyColetti: Onebulletwentthroughmyleftarm,whichparalyzedmyarm,orelseI'msureIwouldhavegothim.

DaveAsprey: Atleasthisoutfitwasn'twhiteanymore,right?

AnthonyColetti: Idon'tknow.Iwasfaceddown.Ididmanagetoripoffapieceofhisoutfitwithmyrighthand.WedidsomeDNAtesting,butnoluck.

DaveAsprey: Nothinginclusive.

AnthonyColetti: No.

DaveAsprey: Thiswasobviouslydrugrelatedforthemostpart,andyouwerealegalgrower.Youweren'tdoingillegalstuff,butclearly,someonedidn'tlikethat.


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AnthonyColetti: Yeah,themarijuanahasastreetvalue,soatthattime,there'salotofthingsthathappenedbeforethiswhereIbelieveImanifestedthis,believeitornot.Iwantedoutofthesecircles,inwhatIwasdoing,andIwasn'tcontentjustbeinginbusinesstomakemoney.Ithoughtthatthisismyevolutionfromanentrepreneurtoasociopreneur.IbelieveImanifesteditbysayingcertainthingstocertainpeoplethatIknewwasanissue,andIknewthattheystoodtogainprettymuchsomewherearoundamilliondollarsifIwasmissing.

DaveAsprey: Theyweregoingtohaveyoumissingandburiedsomewhere,probably.Itsoundsthereshouldbeamoviemadeaboutthis,becauseyoucameback.YoumaketheKarateKidlikeatotallypussy.

AnthonyColetti: That'sawesome.I'veneverheardthatonebefore,butyeah.Iappreciateit.

DaveAsprey: Itwasoneactually.Ijustmadehalftheworldmadrightnow.Sorryeveryone.It'sanamazingstory.Tellmealittlebitmoreaboutwhathappened.Yougointoabar,you'rebarelybreathing,right?You'relayingthereandsomeonecalls911.Whatwasyourrecoverylike?Whathappened?

AnthonyColetti: Iwasleftwithacollapsedlung.Allthebulletswereprettymuchinsideofme.Ihaveeightinchgashonthebackofmyhead,sowhenIwentforthatdoublelegtakedown,IbelievehewasgoingforaheadshotandIduckedthebullet.IfIwouldhavebeenevenhalfaninchhigher,thebulletwouldhavehitmeinthehead.Ihaveaneightinchgashasitgrazedthebackofmyhead.WhenI'minthehospital,Ihaveaparalyzedleftarm,andacollapsedlung.

Thecollapsedlungendeduphealing,buttheleftarmdidnotforquitesometime.WhileIwasseeingdoctors,theybasicallytoldmethatIhavenochanceofmyarmhealing,andtheytoldmeifIwas13yearsoldandnot33yearsold,itwouldhavehealed.Iactuallyaskedwhat'sthedifferencebetweenmy13yearoldandmy33yearoldself,andtheymentionedgrowthhormone,andthatbecomesrelevantlateroninthestoryandhowIconnectedwithyouandBulletproofandhowIwasabletobeinthemedicalmiraclebooks,intermsofmyarmhealing,whichshouldhaveneverhealed.

DaveAsprey: Youhadafullyseverednerve.Whatdidyoudotomakeitcomeback?

AnthonyColetti: Believeitornot,itwasn'tfullysevered.Itwascompressedasthebullethitmyarm,whichisalmostevenworst.WhileIwasobviouslyresearchingforwaystoincreasegrowthhormone,Icameacrossobviouslyyou,Iwas250poundsatthetime…

DaveAsprey: You'realittleheavy.

AnthonyColetti: Iwas50poundsheavier.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

AnthonyColetti: Iwaslivingsomewhatofatoxiclifestyle.Iwasdrinking,smokingcigarettes,nodrugsor


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anythinglikethat,butIwasn'treallyfeelinggood.Iwasn'toptimized.Idefinitelywasnotbulletproof.Icameacrossyouinanotherpodcast,andIstarteddrinkingtheBulletproofCoffee,Ifeltbetter,Ilearned…

DaveAsprey: Yousayanotherpodcast,itwas…

AnthonyColetti: Okay,yes.Okay,Iwasn'tsure.IwasfanofJoeRoganandwatchingUFCandwhatnot.IsawyouontheJoeRoganpodcast.

DaveAsprey: Hebroughtthestufftoalotofpeople,I'mactuallygratefulforthat.

AnthonyColetti: Awesome.AsImentionedonstageattheconference,youwerewearingthisredglasses,andyoucalledyourselfthebulletproofexecutive,whichIthoughtwasincredible,becauseyouarebulletproofandIwasbulletproof…

DaveAsprey: Yeah,actuallybulletproof,right.

AnthonyColetti: Actuallybulletproof.Ifeltthatthismightbesomemessagefromtheuniverse,somedivineintervention,soIdecidedtofollowdowntherabbitholeandfollowthisDaveAspreyasIjustknewyou'rethebulletproofexecutiveatthattime.IcameacrossBulletproofCoffee,Istartedeatingintermsofthebulletproofdiet,Istartedsleepingninehoursatnighttoincreasegrowthhormone,Ilearnedtrendsanddidthemeditation,soIbeganmeditating.WhatelsedidIdo?Ididahighintensityintervaltrainingsometimes,becauseobviouslyofthesynergisticqualitiesintermsofincreasinggrowthhormoneifyoudothatwhileyou'refastinginthemorning.

DaveAsprey: Yup.

AnthonyColetti: Forsomeonetodothat,justdrinkingblackcoffee,typicalintermittentfastingisabsolutelyterrible.ItwassodifficultthatIhadtotakeanapafter.Iwassupercranky.Withthebutterandwhatnot,itjustsustainedme.Iwouldbreakmyfastasyouindicatedinyourwebsite,justaftermyworkout.Ididthisformonths.Aftertwomonthsofnothealing,thedoctorsaidIhadabsolutelynochance,butIkeptfaithinmyregimenandyourinformationandknowledge,andeightandahalfmonthslatermyhandcameback.I'mhappytosaythatI'm100%now.Ibelieveit'stheARXmachine,Ithinkitwascalled.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,theoneIhavedownstairs,theoneyouwereplayingwith,yeah.

AnthonyColetti: Iwasabletohit565pounds,soIwasprettyhappyaboutthat,Ihaven'tseenthatrecordbrokenyet.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

AnthonyColetti: ForaguythatthedoctorsaidthatIwouldneverbeabletoholdthereorliftaglassofwater,thebenchpress565isprettygood.


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DaveAsprey: YougavetheaudienceattheBulletproofconference,thisyearwehadabout30,000people,andyou'reonstation,andIhadn'tplantohaveyouthere,butIwaslike,"Thisistoogoodofastory."Youjustcameupanddidafive-minutecameo.Oneofthefirstpunchesthatyouthrew,itjusthitmyhandandyouliterallythrewaperfectpunchonstagewithanarmthatwasparalyzed,andthiswasjustrecently.Whendidyougetyourarmback?

AnthonyColetti: It'sbeenayearago.TheaccidenthappenedonMarch23rdof2014.Thisisallveryrecent,thescarsarestillsomewhatfresh.

DaveAsprey: Yougiveeveryonechillswhenyoudothat,becausehere'saguywholiterallytheytoldyouyou'renevergoingtomoveyourarmagain,andhereyouarethrowingpunches,you'renotjustmovingit.

AnthonyColetti: Exactly.Imentionedtothedoctorafewtimes,"Doctor,wouldIeverboxagain?"AsImentionedItoldthestoryalreadyattheconference,buthejustlookedaway,hedidn'tevenanswerme,hethoughtitwasludicrousformetoasksuchaquestion.ThesecondtimeIaskhim,heactuallygotupset,hewaslike,"Forgetthisboxingthing.Whatareyoutalkingabout?You'relucky."Istillrememberit,it'sburnedintomybrainthathesaid."You'reluckyifyouhavethestrengthtocarryorholdtheglassofwater."Ithoughtthatwasaprettygrimlookinthenext,whoknowshowmanyyearsofmylife.Irefusetobelieveinthat,Ifollowedalotofyourmethods,andI'mhappytosaythatI'm100%now,and50poundslighter.

DaveAsprey: There'ssomethingtobesaidforthat,yearsagoaftermythirdkneesurgeryandIwasabout23,Ihaveascrewinmyknee,andnoACL.Mydoctorsaid,"You'reluckyoucanwalk."That'sprettymuchwhatyoushoulddo,likeyou'realwaysgoingtobelimited.Itwas10orsomeyearslaterI'mdoinghighaltitudetrackingintheHimalayas.Stuffas,literallyIdidn'tthinkitwouldbepossible.Whenadoctorstellsyouthatstuff,youjusthavetotellyourself,"Screwthatnoise."Justsaying,"I'mgoingtodoit."That'swhatgetsthesignalintoyourbodytokeepdoingthework.

Ifyou're,"I'vegivenup",thatpartofyourbodyislike,it'snotnecessarilytoeat,it'snotnecessarytohavesex,Idon'tneedit.ThespecieswillsurviveifIdon'thaveit.Ifyou'dmakeitarequirement,Ithinkthebodyresponds,likethere'ssomethingbasicaboutthewaythatworks.

AnthonyColetti: Absolutely,andthisdoctorthatIhadthisarm,thatarmdoctorwasaworldrenowndoctor.Hehasbeenpracticingforover30years,anditwasludicrousformetobelievethatIwasrightandhewaswrong,hehadsomuchcasestudyandknowledgebehindhim,butIjustkeptfaiththatthisisnotthewaythestorywasgoingtoend.Alotofmeditationactuallyhelpedalotwithkeepingmyemotionalstateincheck,inkeepingmepositive.Iwoulddoaffirmationseverynightbeforebed,Iwould…

DaveAsprey: Iffactthatisgoodthing.


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AnthonyColetti: Yeah,Iwouldcommandmysubconsciousmindtousealltheenergyofmybody,tohealmyarm,IwouldtellmyselfeverynightbeforebedandIwouldbasically,onthisninemonthmissionwhereIshuteverythingdown,andIlivewithmilitaryprecision,Iwassleepingexactlyat10:00,wakingupexactlyat7:00,Iwasswimming,Iwasusingalsothepowerlung.Iusethepower…

DaveAsprey: Nice,theotherBulletproofthing,thatItalkaboutasmuch,right.

AnthonyColetti: Yeah,thoseareprettycool,thathelpmewithmyswimmingquiteabit,andstrengtheningmylung,becauseobviouslyIhadabullethitit.Ihadachesttubeforninedays.

DaveAsprey: Forpeoplelistening,Iimaginemostofthemhaven'tfoundthatpageontheBulletproofstore,butIhavethisthingcalledthepowerlung,it'sresistancetrainingforyourlungs,you'relikebreathin,andbreathoutthroughreallyhighresistance.It'snotoneofthosemaskyouwearwhenyou'retrainingtoreduceyourairintake,thisisactuallyalotlikehardcoremuscleweightlifting,it'shardtoexplain,butsingersandvocalperformanceuseit.Ihadn'tthought,ofcourse,afteralunginjurytobeabletrainyourlungsthatway,whereas,Idon'tknowwhatnormallungphysicaltherapylookslike,butiimagineit'sprobablynotquitethataggressive.

AnthonyColetti: TheyweregivingadevicewhereIhadtoliftthisball,butitbecameveryeasyreallyquickly.WhenIreallyneedtostrengthenthingsup,thePowerLungreallyhelpedandreally,reallyimprovedmyswimming.

DaveAsprey: That'scool.ItchangesyourrespiratoryvolumeandyourVO2maxinausefulway.ThisonewasofthoseweirdbiohacksthatIputinthewebsite.I'mlikethisistoocoolnottohave,butit'snotabigpartofwhatIdo.Youreallyduginontheworkasyoufoundit.

AnthonyColetti: Absolutely.

DaveAsprey: ThatwascalledthePowerLung,forpeoplelistening.Ididn'tinventthething.Ijustdiscoveredthething.I'mlike,"Thisthingiscool."You'recruisingalongnow,andyouarenowattheCollective-Evolution.You'redoingapodcastwithJoe.JusttellmehowyouguysconnectedandthenIwanttogotoJoe'sstory,becauseit'sreallycoolwhyhestartedCollective-Evolution.Firstoff,howdidyouguysmeet?

AnthonyColetti: TherewasbasicallyachainofeventsthatledmetoCollective-Evolution.Again,Ithinkthisissometypetofindmanifestation.Ifitwasn'thardenoughwhiletorecoverfromgettingshotseventimes,Ihadaclosefamilythatactuallypassaway.ThisparticularfamilymemberwouldlovetopostonlineandonFacebook,andIwasn'tmuchofa…Ididn'tliketoexposemyselforshareonsocialmedia.Outofrespectforthatperson,Ipostedthelasttextmessageconversationthatwehadtogether,andIwrotesomethingaboutit.Aguy,GiovanniwhoisnowthecohostoftheG&ColettiShow,hereachouttoday,andwehaven'tspokenforover10years.

Wewouldmeetuponceaweekforlunchandwewouldtalkabouteverythingwelearn


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fromBulletprooftodifferentwaystomeditateourconsciousnessandhowweinteractwithotherpeopleinourselves.EventuallyhetoldmeaboutanopportunitywithCollective-Evolution,hesaid,wecangoameetJoe.Interestingenough,whenyoumetJoeMartinoforthefirsttime,youdon'tmeethimonaboardroom,youactuallyworkoutwithJoeMartino.WegoinJoeMartino'sbackyard,andwedothiscrazy,IthoughtIwasinreallygoodshape,becauseIwoulddokettlebellsandallthiscrazytraining,andhe'slike,"No,no,we'renotdoinganyweights."Ilaugheditoff,butwedidsomecrazycalisthenicsworkout,whichleftmealmostbedriddenfortwotothreedays.Ithasbeenhistoryeversince.

DaveAsprey: Theconvictconditioningthing,orwhat,bodyweight?

JoeMartino: Yeah,alotofbodyweightstuff.Yeah,Ihavebeensetupinthebackyard.

DaveAsprey: Nice.Verycool.MaybeI'llcomeworkoutwithyouoneday,youcankickmyass,becauseI'mprettymuchallARX.I'vegotlotsofstrength,butI'mprobablynotasfunctionalasIcouldbe,I'dusetheBulletproofstuff.I'malwaysimpressedthatsomeofthebodyweightstuff,I'lldomyhandstancesaboutit.MaybeI'malittleweak,butI'mdoingallright,I'mold.

JoeMartino: Armstrengthisthenumberanyway,right?Strengthandmobility.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Let'sswitchgearsabit,youseeitclearlyintoexercise,you'reafitguy,butCollective-Evolutionisn'treallymostlyaboutthat,it'saboutsomeotherthings.WalkmethroughCollective-Evolutionandwhyyoustartedit,what'syourstory?Becauseit'sprettycool.

JoeMartino: Yeah,absolutely.Iwasthatkidcomingoutofhighschoolthathadnoideawhattheywantedtodoatcollege.Iessentiallycometothepressure,thefamilyislike,"Gogetadegree."Forsomepeoplethat'stheirpath,andformeitjustwasn't,itwas,Iwantedtodothingswithmyhands,Iwantedtodothingsdifferently,Iwantedtodothingsmyway.Iunfortunatelycometothepressure,andIwenttocollege.ThatledmedownajourneywhereIwasfeelingreallyunhappyaboutthestateofmylifeandwhatIwasdoing.Ultimately,itledtoapointwhereIwasquitedepressed,Iwasfeelingreallydownaboutwhatthefutureofmylifemightlooklike,orcanIreallydothis,isthiswhereIreallywanttobe?

Throughthatexperience,Ihadalotofreflectivetime,whichultimatelyledmetodecidingthatifIwanttodosomethingforme,formylife,Idon'tknowwhatthatfuturelookslike,butIgottostartdoingthingsthatIlove,andthataremeaningfultome.IleftcollegeandIstartedtojustexplore,right?Onceyougetonthattempofreallylearningandexploringmoreaboutyourself,howyourbeliefsareformed,howyou'reideasweregenerated,howyourbodywere,allthisstuff.Youstarttoconnectwithadeeperaspectofthings,youstarttoconnectwithconsciousnessoryourownspirituality.LikeIsaid,thebeliefsandtheprogramming.Thatledmetothis…Sevenyearsago,eightyearsago,ledmetothispointwhereIwaslookingforthisinformationsomuch,buttherewasn'tatonofplacesthathadit.


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Iwas,"Whynotcreateaplatformthatwouldallowmetotalkabouttheseexperiences,

whetheritbespiritualrelated,whetheritbeaboutchangingourbeliefsystems,whetheritbeaboutexploringthings."Themainstreamisnotreallytalkingabout,butthatpeopleshouldknow.That'showCollective-Evolutionwasborn,itwastryingtogetpeopleaplatformtotalkaboutallthedifferentchanges,bothinconsciousness,butininformationingeneralthatweregoingon.Because,Ifelttheresultsaresomethingspecialgoingonontheworld,itwaslikethisawakingdeeperaspectofpeoplewhoarereallystartingtoaskquestions,andfindthingsout.That'swhatinspiredCollective-Evolution,andnowitsnewsandmediaplatformthatessentiallyisgoingthroughanythingfrom,lifestylerelatedchangestochangesinconsciousness,allthatsortofstuff,throwinginalternativenews.

Youcanfindawholebevyofcontentthere,andit'sallwritteninourownstyleandperspective,whichwetryandkeepveryneutral,veryopenminded.That'sourmainqualitythatalotofpeoplerecognize.

DaveAsprey: Okay,Iunderstandthat.I'veactuallysharedabunchofpost,becausealotofitisreallygoodstuff.Youbasicallywenttocollege,you'relike,"I'mnotsatisfied",insteadofdoingwhatmostpeopledo,whichis,"Iaswellfinishmydegreeandhangout."Youdecidedtogoalittlebit,justquite…Howmanyyearsofcollegedidyoudobeforeyoudecidedtochangegears?

JoeMartino: It'safunnystory,Iwent,Ilastedsemesterinahalf,leftthatprogram,wentintoanotherprogramaboutayearlater,lastedasemesterandhalf,leftthatprogram,wentintoanotheroneaboutsixmonthslater,leftthat.Intotal,Ihaveaboutfourunfinisheddegrees,allofwhichI'vespentanywherebetweenhalfasemestertoayeardoing.

DaveAsprey: Gotit.Ittookyouawhiletolistentoyourselfthere.

JoeMartino: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: You'retheonlyguestoutofalmost300guestsonBulletproofRadiothathas,unfortunately,wenttocollege.

JoeMartino: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Youactuallysaidthat.Iwaslaughingtomyself.Ifit'snotrightforyou,it'snotright.

JoeMartino: Exactly.

DaveAsprey: DoyoumindifIask,howoldareyou?

JoeMartino: I'm28rightnow.

DaveAsprey: Twenty-eight.There'salotofpeoplenow,under30,whoarelookingatthenumbersandsaying,"DoIreallywanttogotoschool?"Becausetheymadesomanyuniversitiesnowand


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they'reofvaryingquality,andhavingadegreedoesn'tmeanthatyou'llhaveajob,butitdoesn'tmeanyou'llhavethat.Thatcannotbedischargebybankruptcy.IfIwasstaringover,Ididn'tknowifI'dgotocollegeornot,IhaveanIvyLeagueMBAfromoneofthetopbusinessschoolsoutthere,it'shelpedmeenormously.IfsomeonehasachancetogetanIvyLeagueeducationandtheywanttodoit,itwillopendoorsforyou,unquestionably.

Becauseyouopenthosedoorswithoutit,byputtinginthetimeinworking,andlearninghowthingsworkfromsomeonewhoisactuallypracticingwhatitisyoucareabout,youprobablycould,anditmightbeabetterchoice.Foryou,itsoundslikeitwasanobviouschoice.

JoeMartino: Yeah,itcomesdowntoandwheremygreatestinspirationcomesfromis,I'veseenalotofkidsthatwere…WhenIwas18,orwhenIwas19,andevennow,it's2016,it'saverydifferentlandscapeouttherewhenitcomestobusinesstechnology,communication,allthisstuffisdifferent.Mymaininspirationis,don'tgotoschool,gettheeducation,ifyouhavenoideawhatyouwanttodo,onlybecauseI'veseenithappentosomanypeople.Somanyofmyfriendswhere,onceyoustartedonthatjourney,it'sreallyhardtopbreakoutoftheshellagain.Youstartgettingintothattrainingof,"Okay,I'mgoingtodothis.I'mgoingtothis,somegoal,I'mjustdoingit.I'mdoingit."You'renotenjoying,right?You'refeelinguninspiredbyit.

It'shardtoinspireyourselfafter.Mythingisthat,youcangotoschoolanytime,right,atanypointinyourlifeyoucandecide,"IknowwhatIwanttodo.Now,Iwanttogogetthateducation."I'mreallyabouttrynottobatcheducationyourself.I'matthatage,I'msupposedtodothis.Unlessyouknowthat'swhatyouwanttodo.

DaveAsprey: Istudycomputerscienceandinformationsystemsinaformofartificialintelligence,andIspentalmost20years,andwe'redoingthat.Yougo,after20yearsofworkingintechandbusinesstobusiness,andstuffthatwasexcitinginearlydays,becausewereallyneededthatstufftodomeetthings.IfGoogle'sfirstserverwentintomycompany'sdatacenters,butnow,it's,"Okay,lotofstuffsdone,what'sreallyinteresting."I'mbacktocoffee,whichwasmypassionincollege.TheonlytimeIevergotanAincalculus,andIhadtotakeatleastsixcalculusclasses,ifmemoryserves,wasthesemesterIjustcoveredespresso,becauseIwasthethreeshotsofespressoforourclassisan8:00amclass,whichistheworsttimeforme.I'mshaking.Icouldn'tfocus.Thatpassioncomesaround.Whatwouldyousaytosomeone?You're28,you'reatthebeginningofyourcareerstill.

JoeMartino: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Whatwouldyousaytosomeonewhosaid,"ShouldIfollowmypassion?"Wouldyousay,"Yes,absolutely?"

JoeMartino: Yeah,italldependsonpeople'ssituation,right?Becausethere'sarealityofdoyouhaveafamily,doyouhaveresponsibilitiesthatarebig,allthesethings.ThewayIteachitisalways…Followingyourpassiondoesn'talwaysmeanthatyouhavetomakemoneyoutofit,right?Sometimesyoudon'tknowatthebeginningwhenyoudecidetofollowyourpassion


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thatit'sgoingtoturnoutintosomethingthatwasgoingtobeacareer.Ididn'tknowthatCollective-Evolutionwasgoingtopaymeoneday.Tobehonestitwasn'treallywhatIwasthinkingabout.Iwasverymuch,"Okay,Iwanttostartdoingthis,Ihaveajobrightnow,I'mgoingtodobothatthesametime,I'mgoingtobuildit,I'mgoingtokeeprolling."

ThewayIseeitis,ifIcanbringwhatinspiresmeintomylife,eveninsmalldosesduringaweek,duringaday,whateveritmightbe,that'sgoingtohelpleadmetoaplacewhereI'mfeelingnotonlymoreinspiredwithinmyself.Itshines,people…It'sgoingtoopendoorsforyou,peoplearegoingtocometome,"Heyman,you'rereallyintothat."Ihavethisguyhookin,andthennextthingyouknowyouhaveadooropen,whereit'slike,"Icangodothisbusiness,orIcanturnwhatI'mdoingintosomethingthat'sbigger."Iverymuchbelieveinbringingitintoyourlifeasmuchasyoucan,andallowingittounfoldandbeingopentothepossibilitythatitcanturnintoyourcareer.Youdon'thavetogoallinnecessarilytoseeifthat'sgoingtohappen.

DaveAsprey: That'ssomeotherthingforme.IwasaVPatabigcompanyafteralotofyear,sothosekindofthing.Istartedbloggingbecause,whatifsomeonehadtoldmewhenIwas20,wouldIknownowwhenI'm40havinglose100pounds,havingcontrolofmybrainandallofthese.Itwouldhavecompletelytransformed,thetrajectoryofmycareer,andalsojustmylife,Iwouldhavebeenamuchnicerpersoninmuchyoungerage.Ididn'tknowthatthatwouldturnintoajobforsure,notatall.I'mjustgoingtosharesomeofthisknowledge,soIspendhundredsorthousandsofdollarsgettingit,andfranklythatsucks.IratherboughtaFerrariorsomething,andIwasdrivinganeightyearoldcaratthetime,itdoesn'tmatter.Whatmattersisthattheknowledgeisoutthere.It'scoolthatyouhadthesameexperience,really.I'mjustgoingtostartsharingsomethingthatmatters.Maybethere'sajobandmaybethere'snot,butyoustilldidsomethingthatwasgood.

JoeMartino: Yeah.Ultimately,thatit'sinspiring.

DaveAsprey: Whereareyoutakingitnext?What'sgoingtohappenwithCollective-Evolution?What'smotivatingyounow?

JoeMartino: Yeah.Throughmyexperiencewitheducationandnotenjoyingaspectsofit,Itookalotfromit.Whenyougetallthefeedbackfromotherpeopleofwhattheyenjoyedanddidn'tenjoyabouteducation,youbegintorecognizethatthere'scertaingapsinthecurrentsystemthatwehavenow,thatareincredibleimportantforpeopletoknow,learningmoreaboutyourself,learningmoreaboutaspectsofconsciousness,aspectstospirituality,howtofunctioninthisworldoptimally,whetherthatbe,again,health,business,wellness,whateveritmightbe,communication,relationships.Ifindthatalotofpeoplearecomingoutandthey'rewantingthoseskills,butwherearetheygoingtolearnitfrom.

Forus,itwashowdowetakewhatthisinitialinspiration,thisplatformof.Let'sstartinformingpeople,let'sstartgivingpeoplestuffthatwebelievethatneedtobeexposeto.Nowwe'relookingat,"Okay,let'screateabitofaneducationplatform.Let'screatesomethingwherewecanhavecourses,wherewecanhavehowto's,wherewecanhavethingsthatallowpeopletoexperiencethesethingsthattheymaynotgetthrough


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education,thattheycantakeatanypointinlife,right?"Again,it'sfillingthatgap,orfillingthatvoidthat'sthere,withintheeducationsystemthatwefeelneedstobefilled.

That'sthenextdirectionforus,isreallyapplyingthatmodeltowhatwe'recurrentlydoing.TobehonestIseeitbecomingabiggerendofevenwhatwe'redoingnow,probablygettingmorepopular,beingsomethingthatappliestoevenmorepeople.

DaveAsprey: Yougaveatalkcalled"Howtochangeyourlife"asaTEDTalk.ItwasTEDx.Let'sfaceit,TEDxisnotTED,butstillit'scool.

JoeMartino: Yeah,100%.

DaveAsprey: I'vealsogivenTEDxTalk,butnotaTEDTalk.I'mwithyouthere.Justsopeopleunderstandwhatwe'retalkingabout.Whatisthesecretonhowtochangeyourlife?GivemetheCliffsNotesfromyourTEDTalk.

JoeMartino: Yeah.Probablyoneofthemostimportantaspectsthatisthecorefoundationofeverythingisreallydevelopingthatinternalawareness,that'sbecomingmoreself-awareaboutwhoyouare,howyourbelieffunction,howyouremotionsarerulingyourlife.Reallyconnectingandbeingopentothefactthatchangeistheessenceofourworld,youknowwhatImean?Everythingischanging,everythingisconstantlymoving.Ifwegetstuckinthisideaofbeingstagnantorseeingtheworldasveryrigid,whatendsuphappeningischangecantakeforever,andchangecanbesomethingthatwe'realwaysavoiding,andthatwe'realwaystryingtoworditoffaslike,"I'muncomfortablewiththis."Whenyou'reopentoit,thingscanhappenveryquickly.Self-awarenessishuge,andreallybeingopen,andbelievingthatthingsarepossible.

DaveAsprey: Youchangeyourlifebydrivingself-awareness,andyougetself-awarenessbygoingtocollectiveevolution.com.No,I'mjustkidding.Howdoyouactuallygetself-awareness?What'syourpractice?You'redoingprettywell,You're28.Usuallythere'sEroksoniansstagesofadultdevelopment.Yougothroughthisphaseinyour20s,early20s,late20s,there'sa30to40,and40to50.You'reaheadofthecurvealittlebit,whatdidyoudotogetmoreself-awarenessthanaverage?

JoeMartino: Spendingtimeonself,right?Again,thisgoesbackto…Wespendalotoftimewhenwe'reyoungonthingsthatarefunandentertaining,andjoyful,andthepartyingandthis,that,whatever,whichIhadtosomedegreeinmylife.Theotherpartofwhatwe'respendingalotoftimedoingwhenwe'reyoungisschoolandeducation,andthecourses,andthestuffthatwe'redoingthere.There'sthiswholeotherlevelofdevelopinganindividualthatisincrediblyimportant,whichIspentalotoftimeoninmyearly20s,andthatwasunderstandingmyself.Again,goingtobacktothebeliefsystem,Iwoulddothingslikewritingoutonajournal.IwouldkeepajournalofhowitisIfeltaboutthings,andthengoingto,"Okay,soIfeelthisway.WhydoIfeelthisway?How?Whatbeliefsystemisrunningthis?Wheredidthatevercomefrom?WhydoIhavethisemotionthat'smakingmefeelthisway?WhydoIbelievethatmyphysicalbody,Ihavetodothingsthisway?Whatisit?"


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Whenyoustartbreakingdownthosebarriersandopeningitup,andspendingthetime

doingexercisesonyourselfandreallydiscoveringwhatitisthatyou'reabout,ittotallychangesyourperceptionoftheworld,ofyourself,andofwhatyouwanttodo.Iwouldsaythat'showIgottowhereIamtoday,wasjustspendingthetimeanddoingtheexerciseswiththecourses,whateveritmightbetolearnmoreaboutmyself.

DaveAsprey: What'syourtopthreemosteffectivethingsthatmadeyoulearnmoreaboutyourself?

JoeMartino: Iwouldsaymeditation,100%.Iwouldputmeditationandvisualizationpracticeintomyday,almosteveryday.

DaveAsprey: YouuseTMoradifferentone?

JoeMartino: Idon'tuseTM.I'mfamiliarwithit.Ihaveattimes.AlotofwhatIuseisjustmyownlittlepersonalsixsteps.

DaveAsprey: Thewayyoudevelop,okay.

JoeMartino: Yeah.I'lljournal,whichisagreatreflectivepiecethatyoucoulddoeveryday.Attheendofday,again,reflectingonyourlife,reflectingonyourself,reflectingonwhathappenthatday,howyoufeltaboutsomething.Theotherone,probablywouldjustbe,don'tstoplearningandexposingyourselftothings.Themoreyoulookatotherpeopleandwhatthey'redoing,newdiscoveries,orthisperson'swayofdiscoveringmoreaboutthemselves,themoreyourmindiscontinuallysearching,andexploring,andyou'reexposingyourselftotherichnessthat'salreadyoutthere.Ithelpsyouunderstandmoreaboutyourself,attheendoftheday.

DaveAsprey: Thatthing,curiousissomething…Someevencultivate,butisn'tthatsomethingyou'rebornwithtoacertainextent?

JoeMartino: IwouldagreeandIthinkatsomepoint,sometimeswealmostforget,weforgettobecurious,orweforgetthataboutthatsideofourselves,wherewejustfillourtimewithotherthings.

DaveAsprey: Thatsoundsaprettyreasonablethingtosay.Howmanykidsdoyouhave?

JoeMartino: Zerosofar.

DaveAsprey: Thatyouknowof,nojustkidding.

JoeMartino: IfyoulookatitthiswayIgot11kidsherethatIgotwatchoverattheoffice.

DaveAsprey: I'mjustsayingthat.It'sfunnybecauseIdidalotofmyownpersonalawarenessworkbeforeIhadafamily,becauseitisevenmorechallengingwhenyou'vegotalittleonethatwakesyouupat6:00inthemorning.IthoughtIwasgoingtomeditatethismorning.I'llbe


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amemberoftheearlyriserclub.Itdoesn'tmatterifyouwanttobeamemberotherwise,butyou'reamemberofthe2:00am,4:00am,6:00amriserclub,whetheryoulikeditornot,andwhenyoustartedtomeditate,you'reactuallycleaninguppooporsomething.Itbecomesreallyhardtodoafocusmeditationpractice,unlessyoustepupandgotoretreat.

That'swhythere'saprettybigmarketforthisretreatsforpeoplewhoare,"OkayIfinallyfindawaytodropthekidsoffwithfamily,orwhatever.IjustneedthreedayssoIcangetmyheadonstraight."Whatyou'redoingnowthatwasreallywise,becauseyou'vegotallthistimebeforeyoustartafamily,ifyoudecidetostartafamily.You'vegotflexibility,maximumflexibility.Youcanstartacompanywithwhatyou'redoing.Ifyoufailatstartingacompany,"Okay,didyouloseyourmortgage?Areyourkidsgoingtoeat?Wait,youdon'thaveamortgage.Wait,youdon'thavekids.Thisisgreat."Right?Yourcapacitytotakeonriskisreallygood.Yourtimeandfocustimetodopersonalawarenessworkisreallygood.

Ifyoudoallthatstuffrightinyour20s,insteadofbasicallyspendingtheentiretimedrunk,whichisprobably…IremembersomeofmytimeatUCSantaBarbara,butnotallofit,let'sputitthatway.Youcandoalot.You'releadingagreatlife.Okay,startacompany,just10employees.I'vedonemymeditationwork,andIexercise,Itakecareofmyself.Youdoknowthatstuffright,butyou'retheexceptionoftherule.Whatareyoudoingtomakeitsothattheaveragepersonunder30takesadvantageofalltheseamazingopportunities,insteadofwastingit?IwishIhadn'twastedasmuchasIdid.Iworkmyassoff,butit'sonlyaboutmoney,andwork,andnothingelse.

JoeMartino: Yeah,that'salotofCollective-Evolutiondoes,soitprovidinginformation.Youcouldsayfromabitofamillennialvoicetootheryoungpeopleoutthere.It'ssaying,"Look,here'satotallydifferentwayoflookingatthings.We'recoveringanythingfromscienceandtechtoalternativenews,tohealthandwellness,andconsciousness,right?Allthat'scomingouttopeopleandpushingoutthroughthemainchannelsthatalotofyoungerpeoplearefullyengagedwith,Facebook,Instagrams,Snapchat,allthesethings.It'sgivingthemthatopportunitytogo,"Here'swhatthis…Okay,that'ssomethingdifferenttothinkabout."Formepersonally,I'vestartedbuildingoutacoursethatisgivingpeoplethehowto,fromfronttoback,exactlyhowtoactuallyimplementthisinyourlife.

Thereasonbehindthatisbecauseit'sonethingtoconsumeanarticleonlineorwatchaquickvideoonline,it'satotallyotherthingtohaveaguide,takesomeonebythehand.HowdoIactuallydoit?Again,thisleadstotheeducationplatformwe'rebuilding.Myinspirationbehindmycourse,it'shere'showyoucanactuallydothis,becauseIthinkthatthisisveryimportant.Whenyoulookatmillennialsoryoungerpeople,andthat'snottoexcludeolderpeopleaswell,Ibelievethey'reinaverymuchsimilarboat,butthey'relookingattheworld,they'relookingattheirlives,lookingatwhat'shappeningandthey'regoing,somethingisnotquiteright,something'smissing.Thatquestioningishappeningsomuchrightnow,asIbelieve,again,peoplerevolvingthroughthis,averydifferenttimeintheworldrightnow.

They'resaying,howcanwedothingsdifferently?I'mnotfeelingfulfilledbythis.I'mnotfeelingthisiswhatIwanttodo.WherecanIgo?WhatcanIdo?That'sthegapwe'retrying


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tofillforpeople.We'retryingtoanswerthosequestionswithpeoplethroughwhatwe'redoing.

DaveAsprey: It'sworking,youguyshavesomeprettycoolpost.Someofitisalittlebitwackythough.Igottosay,Anthony,arepooppoweredplanes,thejetfuelthat'susually…

AnthonyColetti: Unbelievable,didyoutellhimaboutthat?Didyoutellhimaboutthat?

DaveAsprey: Connectthedotsforme.

AnthonyColetti: Okay.I'vealwaysbeenfascinatedwiththeinventionsandfiguringthingsout.WhenIcametoCollective-Evolution,IwasfascinatedwiththeideathatIcouldconnectwiththepeopleandunderstandmarketingbyrealityandtrytoconnectwiththesemanypeopleaspossible,andIloveinventions.IcameacrossthisinformationthatUnitedAirlineswasusingcowpooptocreatejetfuel.Ilovetheideaofit,becausetechnologyishowwe'regoingtofixthingsinthefuture,throughinnovation.Itwastakingcareoftwoproblems,itwascreatingasolution.Wehavetoomuchofthiscowpoop,andweburntoomuchjetfuelthatcomesfromobviouslyunsustainableresources,wecanputittogether,wecancreateonesolution.Ithoughtitwasgenius,IgaveitwhatIbelievewasaclevertitle,anditdidwhatitdid.

DaveAsprey: Ihaveaquestionforyou,wasitgrassfeedpooporno?

AnthonyColetti: I'mnotquitesure.I'lldomyresearch.

JoeMartino: Howfardotheindustryhasn'tshiftedyet.

AnthonyColetti: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Ilikeitthatyou'reabletowriteaboutstufflikethat.IdosomesimilarposttoFacebook.Okay,Ipostedyesterdayabouttheteamthat'sworkingtoprotectearthfromcometsandasteroidimpacts.YourealizebecauseI'mcurious,likeyou,Joe,yourealize,okay,I'mnotpayingattentiontothis,butthereissomeonewhospenthisentirelifefocusingon,"Allright,howdoItrackallthesethingsinorbit,andwhatarewegoingtodoifsomethingasbigiscomingourway?"Youmightthing,"Thisdoesn'treallymatter,right?"Whenyou'recuriousaboutthingsandyoulookatit,"Maybeitdoes."

Anotherguyisontheshow,GrahamHancockwasjustonandjustpublishedareallypopularepisode.Grahamjustpublishedanewbookabout,here'salltheincredibledetailedevidence,infactIwouldsayoverwhelmingevidence,they'reabout12,000orsoyearsago,actuallyacometdidhittheicecap,anditinfactitformedtheislandthatIliveonnow,thesepartsofit.Thenativepeoplewholivedherewhenthecomethitstillhavelegendsaboutitthatheactuallywroteabout,they'recalledtheCalgentribeandnotsofarawayisCollagenLake.I'm,"Okay."Someonewhoiscuriousisgoingtolookatthisandfindyourmicropiecesofironacrosstheglobeandsaid,"Allright,stuffhappens."HereIamfocusedonhowtoyoukickmoreass,I'mlike,"Okay,thecometkicksyourass."It'satotally


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differentanimal,anditprobablyhappened,right,atleastonce,ifnottwice.I'mlookingallthat,Ihavetostaycurious,butthenwhywouldIpostthatontheBulletproofwebsite?I'm,"BecauseI'mgrateful,becauseit'scool."

IlikeitthatyouguysdothesamethingonCollective-Evolution.Havingcuriosityandnotbeingjustmanicallyfocusedonthisonelittlethingissomethingthateveryonerespects.Aslongasyou'repostingwithinthingsthatpeoplecareaboutandthingsthatarerespectful,Ilovepooppoweredjetplanes,that'scool.It'sfunnyIjustwantpeoplelisteningtofeel,it'snotoneofthose,ifyoudon'tmeditateyou'realosersides.Becausethere'ssideslikethat,right?

JoeMartino: Yeah.Totouchonthatpoint,oneofthemostfascinatingpartsof…Okay,you'llreach15,20millionpeopleinamonthandyouthinktoyourself,"Okay,howdidthathappen?"Thenyoustartlookingatthematthedifferenttopics,thedifferentarticlesthatpeopleresonatedwith,andyou'relike,"There'stons,allacrosstheboardofdifferentthings."Youstarttorealizethateverybodyhasdifferentvalues,everybodyhasdifferentinterest.Oneofthemostfascinatingthingswe'velearnedoverthesevenyearsofdoingthisisthat,everybodyisintobecomingabetterversionofthemselvesisdifferent,that'sfascinating.Somebodyfindouthowtomeditate,becausetheyfirstclickedinanarticleaboutpooppoweredplanes,orsomebodydeterminedthattheyweregoingtomakeabetterversionofthemselves,becausetheyinitiallyclickonanarticleaboutaquinoarecipe,orsomebodyaboutaUFOsiting,somebodyaboutsomeotherthingthathappeninworldynews,right?

Wewriteaboutallthesedifferentthingsandthenwegettheseemailsandthesestoriesof,"Iclickthroughyourarticlebasedonthis,andthenthreemonthslatermywholelifehaschanged."It'sfascinatinghowithappens.

DaveAsprey: Itisprettycool.It'sveryhardtomapoutwhenyou'relookingatit.Ihaveaquestion,howmanypeoplefollowyouonSnapchat?

JoeMartino: Asofrightnow,outSnapchataccountis…Idon'tevenknow.Wehaven'tpusheditmuch.WedoInstagramrightnow,heavy,andwedoFacebook.

DaveAsprey: Okay.IhavetheDaveAsprey,bythewaypeoplearesayingdave.aspreyonInstagram,myphone,IhavemyownInstagramasidefromtheBulletproofone.They'rebothreallycool.Oneisveryartsy,buthere'sapictureofmewithstrangeelectrodes,andIputitup.I'mworkingonthataswell,butwhenIlookatSnapchat,asfarasIknow,lasttimeIchecked,youhavetobenakedwhenusingSnapchat.I'mseeingabunchofpeoplesay,"Okay,now,ifyou'regoingtotalktoanyoneunder30,youhavetobeonSnapchat."Idon'tknow,andI'vealwaysbeenanearlyinnovatordisruptivetechnologyguy,butI'mnotgettingit.Iwashopingthatyou'dbe,"Yeah,Snapchatchangemylife,IactuallymeditatewithSnapchat,andIwasgoingtohavetolearnit."You'regivingmeapasshere,aren'tyou?

JoeMartino: I'llactuallysaythatI'malittlebitinthesameboatasyouinthesenseof…Iseethevalueinitattimes,andatothertimesIdon'tseethevalueinit.Fromastrictlyeconomicalperspective,there'sprobablywaystomonetizeit.AmIpassionateaboutgoingonSnapchat


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andrecordingsomethingssothatsomeoneseesit?Otherthanbranddevelopment,Idon'treallyknowhowvaluableSnapchatis.Wejusthaven'tjumponitthatmuchyet.

DaveAsprey: It'saninterestingdiscussion.IfI'mgoingtotaketime,atthispointBulletproofRadioreachesmillionsandmillionsofpeople,about25millionplusdownloadsofar,whichputsitintheveryuppertierofshows,andthat'sdozensanddozensoffullhumanlifetimes,ifpeoplearelisteningtothis.IfIputallofmyeffortinmakingcontentthatisn'tmurderingpeoplebywastingalltheirtime,allright,whenI'vedonesomethinggood,butifI'monSnapchat,andImakecontentthatIputmyverybesteffortthatgoingtohelppeople,anditgoesawayafteraday.Idon'tactuallywanttomakecontent,I'mnotgoingtoputmyallintoit.WhatI'mgoingtodoisbelike,"Here'sapictureofmeeatingbreakfastorsomething."ThenI'mwastingpeople'stime.MaybeI'llturnaround,butrightnow,Irecognizestuffyoudon'thavetostoreandthenhavepressuretorememberallthetimes,it'slikeanactuallyconversation,Itotallygetthat.Idon'twanttohaveconversations,Iwanttohavemeaningfulconversationsthatareworthyofbeingtranscribed,right?That'sjustmaybeisdifferentgoal.

JoeMartino: Yeah.Theinterestingquestionis,giventheuptakeofthesetypesofapplicationsarethroughpeople,probably30andunderisthemajorityoftheaudience.Wegottothink,isthisreallythefutureofwherethingsareheaded?Isitactually?Thisclick,disappearcontent,andthenthereforeweneedtolearnhowtotalktopeopleinthisway,orisitjustcompletelyfunsocialappthatisjusthaveit'stimeoneday?

DaveAsprey: Fromaconsciousnessstudies,perspectiveandyouguysarereallyintoconsciousness,thenormallifethatweliveisactuallyaseriesofconversationsthatyoudon'tstoreandrecord,right?That'sagoodthing,becauseit'snotnecessary.However,I'mnotthatinterestedinlivinganormallife,that'snotwhatIdo.I'mabnormalineverywaypossible,becauseifyou'regoingtoliveinthestateofhighperformance,we'regoingtohaveaccesstoallyourfaculties,oryou'rejustgoingtobeconscious,you'reactuallyabnormal,becausetheaveragepersonhasn'tdonethatmuchpersonaldevelopment,oriftheyhaven'tdeveloptheirconscious,theyhaven'tdeveloptheirabilitytomoveintheworld,theyhaven'tdevelopedtheirabilitytospeak.WhenIlookatallthosethingsformyself,I'm,"Allright,Ilovetohavesomeofthoseconversations,butIusuallyhavethoseinpersonwithpeoplethataremyfamily,orpeoplewhoreallyamazesme,peopleIreallylovespendingtimewith."

Thosearefacetofacephysicalinteractions.Idon'tknowthatIwanttoreplacethatwiththattimeonline.Thetimeonline,I'mgoingtohelpmillionsofpeople,I'mnotgoingtohelponepersonorsmallgroupofpeopleonSnapchat,butIcouldcommunicatefromthatway.Itjustdoesn'tfeelthereturnoninvestmentofmyattentionisthere.Iwantsomeonetoconvincemeotherwise,maybewe'llgetsomegreatcommentsonthispostoronthepodcast,becauseIdon'tknow,Ijustdon'tgetit.That'swhyIhavequestionsaboutit.

Idon'tnormallytalkaboutthisstuffonBulletproofRadio,becausewe'realwaysfocusedonhumanperformance,andawareness,andthingslikethat.Itfeelsthere'saconnectionbetweensocialmediaandthat,andIfiguredyouguysmighthaveagoodanswer,because


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you'reagood15yearsyoungerthanIam,whichisjustenoughofagapthatyou'dprobablyseetheworldprettydifferently.Iremembergettingmyfirstmicrowaveoven,youarebornwithamicrowaveoven.That'sahugedifference.

JoeMartino: Yeah.Doyouhaveanything?

AnthonyColetti: OneinterestingthingthatIwanttotouchuponis,youmentionedGrahamHancock,sowehadGrahamHancockrecentlyonthepodcastaswell,andIsawhimonyourpodcast.Oneoftheothertypeofbusinessesspinoffsthatwe'recreatingtoexpandconsciousnessandgetourwordoutratherthanjustthewebsite,iswecreatedalivestream.GrahamHancockwasdoingthisbooktourforMagiciansoftheGods,andwehadalivestreamofhim,sowegotthewordout.Totouchonanotherpoint,you'vementionedfacetofaceinteraction,possiblyforafatherthathaschildren.Imentionthistoyouwhileagoiswe'restartingaretreatcenterupnorth.ThisisinNorthernCanada,wherepeoplecangofor,say,aBulletproofweekwhere20,30,40,dependinghowbigwe'reexpanding.We'rerenovatingitrightnow.Youcandothingsfacetoface,ratherthanjustonline.Somepeoplepreferthattypeofinteractionintheflesh.

JoeMartino: Itgoesbackto,there'scouplewaystolookatit,andyoulookitintheevolutionarysense,it'slike,we'llkeepadvancingourtechnology,advancing,advancing.AssoonaseverythingisjustgoingtobeVR,we'reallgoingtobedisconnected.Youlookattheresearchthatcomeupthatshowstheincrediblevalueoffacetofacecontact,andofconnectingwithanotherhumanbeing,andyougo,"What'shappeninghere?Thisisgoinghere."Mythinkis,I'mallfortechnologyandI'mallforthat,andsimplicityandefficiencyinhelpingusdothat.I'malsoverymuchconnectedto,Ithinkweneedhumancontact,thatweneedtomaintainthatforourhealth,forourwellness,fortrulyconnectingwithanindividual,andgrowingandlearning,evolvingtogether,right?Idon'tfeelit'sthesameasbiologicalbeingstodoallofitthroughtechnology.

DaveAsprey: Theinterestingthingis,someItalkedaboutveryearlyinthequantifiedself-movingin2011orsomething,isheartratevariability.Itturnsout,youcanmeasurethemagneticfieldaroundyourheart.You'reheartpicksupothermagneticfields.There'satransmissionthing.Itjustdoesn'tcomethroughonyourcellphoneverywell.

JoeMartino: No.

DaveAsprey: Itactuallydoescomethrough,andthatweknowthatmagneticfieldscontinueindoinfinity,theyjustdropoffatthecubeofthedistance,sotheygetweakerandweaker.Ifyou'reinMarsandyouhaveasensitiveenoughdetector,whatevermyheartisdoingisactuallymakingasignal.Thereisstillsomething,butmostpeoplearenotthattunedintolistentothat.Whenyou'reinaroomwithsomeone,youcanfeeltheirpresence,we'veallfeltthat,thehairsonthebackofyourneckgouporwhateveritis.Iwanttobearoundthatperson,andyoudon'tknowwhy.There'sareason,andit'sbiological.Itmaybespiritual,anditmaybesomethingelse,butI'mnotsurewe'regettingthat.That'swhyIwantmyconversations,theygoawayafter24hourstobeinreallifewhereyoulooksomeoneintheeyeversusapictureofthemintheeye.


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AnthonyColetti: DoesthattransmitoverSnapchat?

DaveAsprey: Ihaveaspecialmagneticattachmentfrommycellphone.Idon'tbelieveit.

AnthonyColetti: Veryclever.

DaveAsprey: Notyet,givethemtime.

AnthonyColetti: Interestingenoughwhenyoumentionintuition.IforgettohavementionthatwhenIwas

gettingintomycarthatnight,thisison…

DaveAsprey: Whenyougotshot.

AnthonyColetti: WhenIgotshot,thisisonvideosurveillancethatIopenthedoorandIstaredattheminivan,thosebasicallyagetawaydriver,andtheshooterwascrouchedbehindmycar.IopenthedoorandI'mstaringatthevan,andthedetectivesaskedme,whatwasIstaring?IstaredforafewminuteandIfeltthingsgoingoff.Iwasn'tsurewhatwasgoingon,I'mnotsurewhatIwasfeeling,butIknewthatsomethingwaswrong.EventuallyIgotintothecar,becauseIdidknowwhattodo,Ididn'tknowwhatthenextmovewas.Ialwaysthinkbacktothat,andI'mtryingtohonethatskillalittlemore.Whenyoumeditate,whenyou'rearoundgoodpeople,whenyou'renotunusuallystressed,andyou'reeatinggoodfood,Ithinkyoucanheightenthatskillquiteabit.

DaveAsprey: IaskedMarkDivine,whoisanavySEALcommander,runsealfit.com,he'sbeenaguestontheshow,andwe'refriends.Iaskhimontheshow,andwe'vebeenchattingofflineaboutitabit.Oneofmyfriendswhowasalongrangereconguytoldme,hesaid,"Dave,youknowabsolutelywhensomeonehasyouintheircrosshairs."Really?Hetoldmethismanyyearsago,thatsoundslikeBS.Hesaid,"No,youjust,youknow.Inthetrainingwedo,youjustfeelit,it'slikeaburning,aflushingfeelingonyourbody,andthenyoujustknow,andthenyoushouldduck."Hetoldmethisnotbecausehewasbragging,behewastellingme,somewhat,hewalkedinofpotdeal,abigtrucksizepointdeal,andhe's,"Icouldtellrightawayifsomeonehadmeontheircrosshairs."

He'slike,"WhatIdo,IstopandIsparkedupabowlandtheyjustthoughtIwasapotheadandtheyletmego."Truestory.Anyhow,though,Iwaslike,"Whatdoyoumeanyoucandothis?"IaskMark,andhegoes,"Yeah,absolutely,weallknowthat."Whatyoufeltthere,it'slegit.Onsomelevelyouknew,butyoudidtrustyourintuition.

Inmyownpathhasshownmethat,mostpeoplehaveintuition,somemorethanothersandsomepeoplehastrainedmorethanother,certainlyIhavetrainedmineineverywhereIcouldthinkof.Justbecauseit'strained,itdoesn'tmeanyouknowhowtolistentothesignal,andthatwholeartofconsciousness,thestuffthatwe'retalkingaboutthereis,thesignalsareallthere,they'rejustnotlabeled,andthey'reallmixedinwithallsortsofothercrap.Ifyoucouldfigureoutwhat'sagoodsignalandwhat'snoise,there,notyou'refullyenlightenedorsomething.That'sahardchallengeoflife,right,butit'sdoable.What


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happenforyou,Anthony,isyourbody,there'sathreathere,payattention,andyou'redoingwhatdeerinmyfrontyarddoes,forreasonlook,right,andassess.Youwentrightintoyourprimalmode,butdidn'thavetheconnectionbetweenwhatandgobackintothebarrightnow,likesomethingbadishappening.Ifyougolistentothat,yourlifemightbeverydifferentnowthanitwasbefore.

Allthingshappenforareason.Thatwasfascinating,andweneedahelloflotmoresciencearoundthat.Foreveryskepticlisteningtothiswhosays,"Thatcan'tbe,"poundsandguys,scienceisthestudyofthisstuff.Ifgoingtosay,"Youcanstudyitbecauseit'simpossible,thereforeitdidn'thappen,you'reactuallyafundamentalist,you'renotascientist.I'llsaythatrightnow.

AnthonyColetti: Yeah,thatwasmorethanjusthopingthedooropenandlookingatthevan.IusetoworkforMorningtoNight.AtthattimeIwasfullentrepreneur,justtryingtomakemoney,wefocusedonthebottomline.Inthatday,forsomereason,IwenthomeintheafternoonandIwenttosleep,whichiscompletelyunusual.Ibelievemybody,everythingwassteeringupforwhatwasabouttohappen.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

AnthonyColetti: OnereallyweirdthingistwoweeksbeforetheaccidentIhadadaydreamthataguyinawhitesuitwasshootingatme.Iknowthis,I'mactuallyaskeptic.I'mtellingyouexactlyhowithappened,andthesethingswere…Icouldreallyfeelthemasmuchasyoucouldseesomethingortangible,ortouchsomething.Thesignswerevery,verystrong.

JoeMartino: Absolutely.IalwaysliketotouchonInstituteofhighermath,andInstituteinanalyticsciencesissomuchofthattypeofresearch,thestudyofthis"unmeasurablethings".There'ssomuchsciencebehindit.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

JoeMartino: Tosaythatthere'snoneisbeingbehindthetimedramatically,becauseit'sbeenaroundforsolong,right?That'soneofthemostfascinatingendsoftheworkthatwedoiskeepingupwithandlooking.Wechartedwiththeseinstitutionsanumberoftimesjusttohearwhat'sthelatestgradethat'scomingoutandit'scrazy,it'sawesomewhat'shappening,andthecuriosity,again,that'swhereitcomesdownto,right?We'relearningmoreaboutourworldthanweeverthoughtwasevenpossible.

DaveAsprey: Absolutelytrue.Speakingoflearningmoreaboutourworldthanyoueverthoughtpossible,youknewthisquestionisgoingtobecomingout.Youguyshavebeenpreppingforthisforweeks,right?I'mgoingtoaskeachofyouwithaBulletproofquestion.Someonecometoyoutomorrowandsaid,Iwanttokickmoreass,everysinglethingIdoinmylife,Iwanttobemorebulletproof.WhatarethethreemostimportantthingsthatIshouldknowabout?

AnthonyColetti: Numberone,andIjustgottogoonmyownpersonalexperience,wasmeditation.Meditationchangedeverythingforme.Thatbasicallycalmmedownandputmemorein


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tune.Ithadallowedmetobecomebetterineverything.WhenImeditated,Iwasbetterworkingout,Iwasabetterfriend,Iwasabetterbrother,abetterson,abetterstudent.Thatdefinitelyisatthetopofmylist.

Also,I'mnotsayingthisbecauseI’mtalkingtoyoubutBulletproofCoffee,Iusedtodrinkatremendousamountofcoffeeanditmademefeeljittery,andweird,andIwouldgetthosespikesofenergywhereyou'renotoptimizedwhenyou'resuperhyper,youcan'tconcentrate,andallthesuddenyoucrash,andnotyou'renotoptimized,becauseyou'resupertiredandyouhavebrainfog,soitreallyfoundthatmiddleground,thatmiddlebalance,anditalsodecreasedthenumberofcupsofcoffeeIdrinkperday.BecauseIusetodrinkatleast,Iwouldsayfourorfivelargecupsofcoffee.Iwasalmostlikeadrugaddict,IwaschasingsomethingthatIcouldneverget.Iwasneveroptimized,sothat'snumbertwo.Numberthree,Iwouldhavetogowithsleep.Isleepwalk,soIalwayshadtroublesleeping.OnceIgoteverythingelseintogear.Iknewtonotlookatbluelightandtotonedownlaterontheday,andnotdrinkcoffeepass2:00.Ialsohavethesleepmat.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,that'sasleepinductionmat.

AnthonyColetti: Yeah,absolutely.OnceIgotmysleepinorderagain,Ifeltmuchmoreoptimized,myconcentrationswasbetter,Iwasabletolearn,Iwasableto,again,theemotionalstability.Ididn'tfindlikeIwasflyingoffthehandle,andIfeltabetterversionofmyself.Guarantee,thosearemytopthree.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Iusedtobeadick.Peopledon'tbelieveit,butthatemotionalvariability,wedohavestableenergy.I'vesaidsomethingsIwishIhaven'tsaid,becauseIjusthaveagoodcontrolofmybrain,becauseIwasjustgettingstuffthatmademejittery,ornotgettingenoughenergy.Islifechanging,"ThisishowI'msupposedtoact."Thanksfortheplug.Itwasn'tnecessary,butIcantellitwassincereaswell,it'soneofmybigthingstoo,soI'mwithyou.Thankyou.Allright,Joe.

JoeMartino: Yeah.Thatsoundlikeabrokenrecord,butIamgoingtostartitoffwithmeditationaswell,mainlybecauseI'masportsguys,Iplaysportsgrowinguplikecrazy.Thereisthissenseofwhenyou'reinthemomentinsportjustlikeinlife,peoplehaveaneasiertimeinsports,sometimesyoucouldjustseeeverything,andyoubecomesooptimizedthatyou'reabletoperformatcompletelydifferentlevel.Youlookatthelotofthebestathletes,they'reallmeditating.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

JoeMartino: Meditationishuge,anditappliestolife,everything,everythingyouguysjustmentionedaboutmeditation,I'm100%inagreementson.I'mgoingtoswitchscriptandsaymovementaswell.I'mbigonmovementbecausemobility,havingthephysicalbodyperformingandfeelinggoodandallthatsortofstuff,changesthatwayyou'rebodyfunctionsenergeticallyaswell.Youfeelyouhavemoreenergy,youfeelthingsaremovingaround.ItactivesadifferentlevelofcreativityIfeel.Littlebitofmovementinthemorning,evenasimplesix,sevenminutesstretchroutine,ormovementroutinethatIdo.There'salso…Whenyou're


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havingyoumeetings,whenyou'redoingcreativethings,don'tsitdown,movearound,keepitflowing.That'sabigthing.

Thelastone,I'mjustgoingtobringitbackto,probablysomethingassimpleas…Idon'twanttosayotherthingsIpreviouslysaid,butjustself-awareness.Thathappensthroughmeditation,butitalsohappensthroughjustdeciding,tolookatyourselfandlookathowyouwouldfunction,howyou'rebeliefsystemsareformed,allthatstuff,becauseitwilltellyouhowyou'reoperating,andletyouknowhowyoucanchangetooperatemoreoptimally,ormoreopen,orallthesesortsofthingsthatIthinkcanleadtoourcompletelydifferentversionofyourself.

DaveAsprey: Verycool.Thankyouforsharingthatknowledge.Let'ssee,thenameofyourpodcast?

AnthonyColetti: TheG&ColettiShow.

DaveAsprey: G&ColettiShow,andCollective-Evolution,that'scollective-evolution.com.Anyotherplacesthatpeoplewhoareinterestedinyourworkshouldgoforeitherorbothofyou?

AnthonyColetti: Bythetimethiscomesout,I'mgoingtohaveanthonycoletti.com.DuringthetalkattheBulletproofconference,Ihadpeopleapproachmeformotivationalspeakingandtogodownthatroad.I'mpursuingjusttogetthemessageoutandtellmystory.

DaveAsprey: Awesome.Joe,isthereanysiteweshouldbesendingpeopleto?

JoeMartino: Iwouldjustsay,forCollective-Evolutionasawhole,wealsoareonInstagramorinFacebook,Twitter,allthatsortofstuff.Thosearemainspaces.

DaveAsprey: Awesome.Thanksguysforbeingontheshow,Ireallyappreciateyourtime.

JoeMartino: Iappreciatethe…

AnthonyColetti: Thanksforhavingus,Dave,itwasawesome.

JoeMartino: Yeah,absolutely.

DaveAsprey: Ifyouenjoyedtoday'sepisode,whichofcourseyoudid,becauseyou'vebeenlistening,thisislikealmostepisodenumber300,somewhereinthatrange,andthat'sprettycool.There'scoupleofthingsyoucoulddo.Oneis,youcouldsay,"Iliketheshow."GotoiTunesandsaythat.Wealsotalkedaboutafewcoolthings,wetalkedaboutBulletproofCoffee.YouneedBulletproofupgradedcoffeebeans,whicharemadeatadifferentprocess,andlabtestedlikenoothercoffeebeans,brainoctaneoil.

Thesearethethingsthatjustgivethatenergyintoyourbraineverysingleday.Wetalkedaboutthesleepinductionmat,whichcanhelpyougotosleep.Wetalkedaboutsomeothercoolstuff,likeminimizingexposuretobluelight.I'vebeentalkingaboutthismuch,butthere'ssomethingcalledtheZenTechprotectorthatgoesonyouriPhoneoronyour


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laptop.Bulletproofmanufacturesthesethings,andtheyblockthespectrumofbluelightthat'smoststressfultoyoureyesandthatmostsuppressesmelatonin.Myphone,whereverIputit,actuallyhasoneofthesethingsonit,youcan'tseethatit'sonthere,evenduringtheday,butwhatendsuphappeningis,youuseyourphoneatnightanditworks.Magicallythescreenfairy,ifyou'rewatchingonYouTube,it'salittleboxlikethis,anditsticksonthebackofyourphone.

Ifyouwanttosleepbetter,ifyou'regoingtolookatyourphonebeforeyougotobed,you'renotgoingtomakemelatoninforfourhours.ZenTechontheBulletproofwebsitecanhelpyoureducethescopewiththatproblem.Dimyourlights,turnoffthebrightlightinyourbathroom,youdoalltheothersleephackstuffItalkedabout,butitactuallycangiveenoughenergytomakebigchangeinyourlife.Youcanrecoverfaster,andit'saonetimething.Ittakesabout30secondstogetitlineduprightonyourphoneandyouneverthinkaboutitagain.Thesetitandforgetitbiohacksthatgiveyoubenefiteverydayarethemostpowerfulones,whichiswhyIwenttothetroubleofmakingZenTech.

Ifyouhaven'tseenthat,checkitout.Inthemeantime,anothershowiscomingupinanotherfewdaysforyou,andI'mhavingagreattimedoingthis.IgettohangoutwithamazingguyslikeJoeandAnthony.Iwanttokeepdoingthis,andkeepbringingyoutheverybest.Haveagreatday.

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