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    1Copyright2008 Deloitte Development LLC. All rights reserved.

    Fraud Investigations: Considerations for Internal Auditors

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    Scott ShafferPartner, Corporate Investigations

    Jack Moorman

    Principal, Analytic & Forensic Technology

    Toby J. F. BishopDirector, Deloitte Forensic Center

    Deloitte Financial Advisory Services LLPNovember 6, 2008

    Fraud Investigations: Considerationsfor Internal Auditors

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    Welcome to Todays Webinar!

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    Our Panel

    Scott Shaffer

    Partner, CorporateInvestigations

    Jack Moorman

    Principal, Analytic &ForensicTechnology

    Toby J. F. Bishop

    Director, Deloitte Forensic Center

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    Demographic PollingHow many viewers are watching the webinar at yourlocation?

    a) 1 - I am the only viewer

    b) 2 to 4 viewers

    c) 5 to 7 viewers

    d) 8 to 10 viewers

    e) More than 10 viewers

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    Course Objectives Identify potential risks of "just taking a look"

    to determine the validity of an allegation

    Assemble different skill sets needed for aparticular investigation

    Work through challenges involved ininternational investigations and supply chain

    issues Gather and preserve evidence in a way that

    maintains admissibility in court proceedings

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    9Copyright2008 Deloitte Development LLC. All rights reserved.

    Course Objectives (cont.)

    Understand computer forensics: identifying"smoking gun" emails and other electronicevidence

    Know strategies and techniques forinterviewing witnesses and potentialsuspects

    Report results: what, how, to whom, and

    why?

    10Copyright2008 Deloitte Development LLC. All rights reserved.

    Resources IIA Guidance Managing the Business Risk of Fraud:

    a practical guide

    New Guidance Issued July 7, 2008

    Joint project of IIA, AICPA & ACFE

    Sections on: Fraud Risk Governance Fraud Risk Assessment Fraud Prevention Fraud Detection

    Fraud Investigation andCorrective Action

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    Resources IIA Guidance

    Practice Advisory 1210.A2-2

    IA responsibilities related toinvestigating fraud allegations:

    Managements role

    Internal auditors role

    Investigators role

    Reporting on fraud

    Resolution of fraud incidents

    Communications

    Opinion on IC related to fraud

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    Polling Question 1 How many years of experience do you have

    performing fraud investigations?

    a)More than 10 years

    b)6 10 years

    c)25 years

    d)Less than 2 years

    e)None

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    Risks of Just Taking a Look

    Tipping off suspects

    Intentional destruction of evidence

    Fabrication of evidence; witness intimidation

    Loss of electronic evidence due to delayedinvestigation

    Back-Up Tapes

    Email server dataautomatic archive/ delete

    Inadvertent spoliation of evidence

    Risk that shortcuts might compromise findings

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    Investigation Team Skill Sets Computer forensics

    Data gathering & data analysis

    Interviewing skills

    Fact-finding & eliciting confessions

    Forensic accounting

    Business knowledge/ Company policy

    Language capabilities Legal/ Compliance

    Potential attorney-client privilege

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    Polling Question 2

    Who normally performs fraud investigations withinyour organization?

    a)Internal audit

    b)Fraud/security

    c)Legal

    d)External investigators

    e)A team of internal and external personnel

    f)NA/Dont know

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    Supply Chain Issues Supply Chain Fraud Schemes

    Kickbacks

    Related parties/ Conflict of interest

    Duplicate payments

    Fictitious vendors

    False or inflated invoices

    Excess purchasing

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    International Challenges

    Local laws & regulations affectinginvestigations

    Coordination of General Counsel, InternalAudit, and compliance groups across borders

    Security, confidentiality, and privacy issues

    Language and cultural barriers

    Knowledge of local business practices

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    Polling Question 3 How does your organization staff fraud

    investigations in foreign countries?

    a)Our staff travel

    b)We use local staff

    c)We use a variety of local external investigators

    d)We use a single external provider

    e)NA/Dont know

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    Gathering & Preserving Evidence

    Collecting evidence - things to consider What evidence should be collected

    Appropriate method of evidence collection

    Timing and priority of evidence collection

    Privacy implications

    Technology implications

    Chain of Custody

    Evidence verification and security

    Retention requirements

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    Gathering & Preserving Evidence Evidence handling

    Chain of custody tracking from collection to final disposition

    Collection techniques that provide a means of verification (MD5, SHA1hashes)

    Proper transport of electronic evidence

    Proper facilities for electronic evidence storage

    Separate access control for sensitive or foreign data

    Trained evidence personnel to manage evidence

    Evidence Analysis:

    Hash library and file signatures Meta-data

    Deletion activity

    Encrypted, hidden, or encoded data

    Behavioral artifacts

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    Potential sources of electronic evidence

    Production systems: e-mail, instant messaging, enterprise database, fax,

    document imaging, voice, and telephony systems

    Network file shares, local desktop, or laptop file systems, portable storage

    media such as CDs, DVDs, flash drives, or external hard drives

    Enterprise records management or other archival systems

    Backup and disaster recovery media

    Handheld devices such as PDAs and mobile phones

    Data maintained by external vendors or service bureaus

    Computer Forensics in Investigations

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    Review methods

    Culling based on

    Custodian

    Time and date range

    File type and location

    Searching electronic files

    Privilege

    Keywords

    Patterns

    Conceptual

    Contextual

    Computer Forensics in Investigations

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    Factors in deciding between in-house and external forensiccapabilities

    Cost (laboratory environment, software, hardware)

    Personnel (training, qualifications, experience)

    Responsiveness (scalable and reactive resources)

    Court presentation capability (expert witness experience,

    independent third party requirements)

    Computer Forensics in Investigations

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    Polling Question 4 How does your organization gather electronic

    evidence to support fraud investigations?

    a)In-house personnel qualified in computer forensics

    b)Other internal audit personnel

    c)Other IT personnel

    d)External computer forensic specialists

    e)We dont gather electronic evidencef)NA/ Dont know

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    Interviewing Witnesses and Suspects

    Who to interview Informants, victims, witnesses, co-conspirators, suspects

    When to interview

    At any stage of the investigation

    To confirm or refute any information/ evidence gathered

    Where to interview

    Private rooms

    Locations without distractions such as telephones, windows, or other

    people

    In a location that you control

    Let the interviewee sit near the door to avoid feeling trapped

    Allows you to observe non-verbal behaviors and body language

    Avoid interviewing alone

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    Interviewing Witnesses Informational Interview Methodologies

    Context reinstatement revisit scene or recreate events

    Extensive and varied retrievalVarying chronologicalorder to aid concentration

    ConcentrationAvoid distractions

    ImageryUse different senses

    Control of information with the witnessInterviewer isthe facilitator

    Compatible questioningUse the witness own words toassist concentration

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    Interviewing Suspects

    Investigative Interview Methodologies Direct AccusationAvoid strong words like steal, fraud,

    kickbacks

    Observe reactions

    Cut off denials

    Establish rationalizations

    Stop alibis

    Present alternatives to obtain initial confession

    Reinforce rationalizations

    Probe for details Obtain a written confession

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    Reporting Results How to report findings:

    Oral or written communication

    Who to report findings to:

    Management

    Board of Directors/ Audit Committee

    Regulators/ Authorities

    What to report:

    Description of procedures performed

    Communicate findings or facts learned as a result of the procedures

    performed Include restriction on distribution of report, where applicable

    Generally, do not state opinions

    Why report findings:

    Help drive consistency in resolving allegations

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    Polling Question 5

    Our organizations fraud investigation capabilitieswould best be enhanced by:

    a)Greater computer forensic capabilities

    b)Enhanced interviewing skills

    c)Better resources for international investigations

    d)All of the above

    e)NA/Dont know

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    How to Prepare for Investigations Implement consistent process for evaluating allegations

    Develop investigation protocols

    Reporting lines

    Methodologies

    Identify resources to be used

    Internal resources (internal audit, legal, HR, etc.)

    Computer forensics

    Forensic accounting

    International

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    Question and Answer SessionLive viewing audience:

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    Contact InformationScott Shaffer

    [email protected]

    (312) 486-4755

    Jack Moorman

    [email protected]

    (312) 486-4559

    Toby J. F. Bishop

    [email protected]

    (312) 486-5636

    Deloitte Forensic Center

    www.deloitte.com/us/forensiccenter

    http://www.deloitte.com/us/forensiccenter
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    Webinar Evaluation

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    CPE Certificate

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