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EJVT T_NPHJT_JDBENCNFX
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"Dblefj ni gjetlchtx dnethezjo(
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CLT_ XJLP ,, , , , ENV
Inn`lcc nzpelgje_bj 06b ni Alezlpx bj ?b ni J%T%Ntzojet npflehqjo l inn`lcc nzpelgjel bj bndkjx jco_bj nzpelgje vlt yjpx hejpjthef leo}jn}cj ni lcclfjt zpejo z}n vldb fnnoinn`lcc % _bj j l g t v j p jdbntje pleongcxleo jldb jlgvlt gloj z} ni`x : }clxjpt%_bj pjijpjjv l t L o p h l eLfzjpnt% _bjh e h h l h yj n i g l k h e f b h tnzpelgje vltHfeldhnt hojl1 "H blo bht hojl`jdlztj h bnzfb cn ni }jn}cj chkjinn`lcc leo `x glkhef bht nzpelgje lccbj }jn}cj dnzco }clx#leo blyj l fnnohgj"
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T}jdhlc Jyjet
L _LCK L@NZ_ LDDHOJE_T%Vbje vj dlgj `ldk ipng nzp vhejp bncholxt# lvngle leo l gle he l vbjjc dblhp# dlgj n bj
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`x tzojet vhbnz blyhef l olx n pjclr%@x Lophle Lfzjpnt
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tzojet necx blyj ? bnzpt n
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d l c c j o " D l p h n f p l g l " %bht jdbeh|zj glkhef l }lejc#vbjpj bj fnno bheft bj tzojeblyj onej lpj% _bht jdbeh|zj vhccbjc} bj chcj tzojet n onfnno bheft hetjloonhef `lo bheft% _bht vhcc lctnbjc} dbhcopje pjclhnetbh} leo en`jhef ohtdphgheljo inp bjhpdncnp np bjhp hejcchfjedj%@x Lophle Lfjpnt leo Tjpfhn_ng
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_npn RCOzphef bj tjdneo jpg nzp
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l`hchx n tzox&& tlho _hg%@x Lophe Lfjpnt
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