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Crooked River Fishing Tips Central Oregon Flyfishers By Frank Turek & Bill Seitz

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Page 1: Crooked River Fishing Tips Central Oregon Flyfishers · Presentation •Different than most presentations –Bunch of fish photos - nope –Bunch of scenery photos –nope –Bunch

Crooked River Fishing Tips

Central Oregon Flyfishers

By

Frank Turek

&

Bill Seitz

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Presentation

• Different than many presentations

– Bunch of fish photos

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Presentation

• Different than many presentations

– Bunch of fish photos - nope

– Bunch of scenery photos

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Presentation

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Presentation

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– Bunch of scenery photos – nope

– Bunch of fishing stories - nope

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Presentation

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• 1. Chuck and duck rig

• 2. Crooked River flows

• 3. Fishing chuck and duck

• 4. Favorite spots on Crooked River

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Only Fish Picture

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Only Scenery Picture

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1. Chuck and Duck Rig

Fly lineLeader 5X

Strike

indicator

Split shot

Lead fly

weighted

First dropper

Second dropper

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Flies

• Chuck and duck uses subsurface flies

• Dry fly fishing

• I like #18 parachute BWO

– Fish like it

– I can see it

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Chuck and Duck Rig

Fly lineLeader 5X

Strike

indicator

Split shot

Lead fly

weighted

First dropper

Second dropper

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Leader

• I use 5x flurocarbon

– No need to go finer or heavier

• 5X will fit through #20 eye

• Start with 9 ft tapered leader

• Try to keep length fly line to lead fly about

8 ft or so

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Chuck and Duck Rig

Fly lineLeader 5X

Strike

indicator

Split shot

Lead fly

weighted

First dropper

Second dropper

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Strike Indicator

• My favorite is corky

• Easy to adjust and I adjust often

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Strike Indicator

• Deep pools I set strike indicator about 5 feet above lead fly

• Shallow areas I set strike indicator about 18 inches above lead fly

• I change depth rather than flies

– Deep pools change 12 inches

– Shallows change 6 inches

• Should touch bottom about half the time

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Strike Indicator

• Remember:

IT IS AN INDICATOR NOT A BOBBER

• If it moves or pauses or stops or does

anything different than a normal drift

STRIKE

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Chuck and Duck Rig

Fly lineLeader 5X

Strike

indicator

Split shot

Lead fly

weighted

First dropper

Second dropper

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Split Shot

• I like

– bb size in irrigation season

– #1 or smaller shot in non irrigation season

• Put it about 12 inches above lead fly

• Should be called Slip Shot

– Tends to slip down when casting

– If it gets within 4 inches of lead fly - hits stop

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Chuck and Duck Rig

Fly lineLeader 5X

Strike

indicator

Split shot

Lead fly

weighted

First dropper

Second dropper

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Flies

• Lead fly - #14 weighted Peeking Caddis

• First dropper - #18 Olive Bead Head Scud

• Second dropper - #20 Happy Pulik or #20

Peacock fly

• Whitefish spawning season, egg pattern

for second dropper

• About 12 inches between flies

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Fly Patterns

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For Fish That Hit Indicator

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Fly Setup

• I don’t use fancy knots

• Improved clinch knot

– Tie fly to tippet at eye

– Tie droppers to bend of hook

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2. Crooked River Flows

• Two main seasons of flow

– Non irrigations season 60 to 80 cfs

– Irrigation season 230 to 260 cfs

• Check out river in low flow

– Learn pools, riffles, pockets and seams

– Learn where fish lie

– Learn where to wade and cross

– Apply that in high flows

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Crooked River Flows

• Remember cfs is a volume

• Velocity varies with depth and width of

channel

• Consider a river section 2 feet deep, 50

feet wide

• If flow doubles - 100 to 200 cfs then

velocity doubles BUT force against you

quadruples

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3. Fishing Chuck and Duck

• Because of road most folks fish with flow

from left to right

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Fishing Chuck and Duck

Deep Pools and Runs

3

1

12

9

210

11Set up and

sink zone

Drift zone

Drag and fly

rise zone

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Fishing Chuck and Duck

Deep Pools and Runs

3

1

12

9

210

11Set up and

sink zone

Drift zone

Drag and fly

rise zone

Brussel Sprouts Zone

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Drift with Drag

Fishie

Current

Line & Leader

Flies

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Drift with Drag

Fishie

Current

Direction of

force

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Drift with Drag

Fishie

Current

Result = Good hook set

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Fishing Chuck and Duck

Shallow Riffles and Small Pools

3

1

12

9

210

11Set up and

sink zone

Drift zone

Drag and fly

rise zone

Brussel Sprouts Zone

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4. Favorite Fishing Spots

• Big Bend to Lower Palisades

• Greater percentage of rainbows to

whitefish

• Downstream greater percentage of

whitefish

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Big Bend Area

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Big Bend Area

Area I normally fish

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Big Bend Area

Shallows and riffles

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Big Bend Area

Nice pools

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Big Bend Area

Areas of deep runs/pools

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Big Bend Area

Road Crossing

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Chimney Rock

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Chimney Rock

Area I usually fish

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Chimney Rock

Shallows and riffles

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Chimney Rock

Area of runs and pools

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Chimney Rock

Rock and platform

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Chimney Rock

Wood platform

The rocks

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Chimney Rock

Shallows and

riffles

Pocket pools

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Chimney Rock

Pools and

holes

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Chimney Rock

Nice runShort run

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Lower Palisades

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Lower Palisades

Wheel chair

structures

Area I usually fish

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Lower Palisades

Shallows and

riffles

Shallow but limited

fish

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Lower Palisades

Nice deep pool

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Lower Palisades

Good crossing

area

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Palisades Canyon AreaUpper Palisades

Lower

Palisades

Area I usually

fish

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Palisades Canyon AreaUpper Palisades

Lower

Palisades

Deep slow pool

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Palisades Canyon AreaUpper Palisades

Lower

Palisades

Riffles and

pools

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Questions Later

and now

here’s

Bill