introduction to elliott wave fibonacci spread trading

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Elliott-Wave Fibonacci Spread TradingPresented by Ryan Sanden

The inevitable disclaimer:

Nothing presented constitutes a recommendation to buy or sell anysecurity. While the methods described are believed to be effective inthe long run, no guarantee of efficacy is being made. Trading involvesrisk. I will in no way be responsible for any decisions or trades made as adirect or indirect result of this material. Full understanding of all tradinginstruments and exchanges is the sole responsibility of the trader.

Ryan owns positions in the following related securities discussed herein: SDS


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Principles of Market Trends

Markets move in trends. Movements with the trend are called impulses. Movements against the trend are called corrections.

Trends eventually change.

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Trends depend on theirtime frame. Green = uptrend Red = downtrend

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Which is correct? They allare. Which you trade is up to you.

Planning to trade one trend while acting on movements in another trendis called a trend relativity error. It is one of the most common trading mistakes.


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Principles of Elliott Wave Theory

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Larger-degree uptrend (higher time frame trend is up)


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Larger-degree downtrend (higher time frame trend is down)

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These structures repeat.. That is, they connect together:

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If I take away the colors and labels.. It really looks like the stock market.

Yet, the underlying order is there if you know what to look for.


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They dont just infinitely repeat. That would be too easy. Really, theycombine to make higher degree waves. So, what looks like

repetition is really just larger degree waves unfolding.

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An Idealized Market


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Major Degree Waves The Big Trend


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Intermediate Degree Waves The Major Moves


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Minor Degree Waves The Daily Wiggles


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Nested Waves. Elliott-Wave map of the market.


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S&P 500 Example: Daily Bars.

September 2007 through January 2008

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Q: Thats Wonderful. How can I use this knowledge?

A: The better we can predict where we are in the structure, thebetter we can predict the next move in the market.

For example, lets pretend that the above chart is now.We can see enough to clearly identify the above wave count.

We just finished a 2 of the of the green waves, and now we expecta 3 of the green waves. Therefore, we are bearish. This is true eventhough the casual observer looks at the chart and sees a bottom!


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Q: How do we know when were wrong?

A: This is a very important question. When we dont have a firm opinionof the market anymore, we should exit the trade. This becomes a stoploss. The waves offer natural stop loss points!

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So, we can draw the waves as best as we think. Then, if the market hits ourstop loss, then we will wait until we have a new clear picture to trade.

Sometimes were wrong about the wave count. Thats OK. Were right oftenenough to make this methodology worthwhile.

(stop)


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FibonacciTo make life easier, each wave has a target region for where it should end.We use Fibonacci relationships to plot these on the chart in advance.

For example, Wave 2 target is 50%-78.6% of Wave 1:

78.6% retracement

61.8% retracement

50.0% retracement

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Green Wave 1 down is finished. Currently in Green Wave 2 up.

This wave should end somewhere between $145.99 and $150.71. ($147.94 is best.)


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Now, we have to project a likely extent for Wave 3:

Wave 3 is generally 1.000 to 1.618 of Wave 1, projected from the end of Wave 2.This is technically named an alternate price projection.

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Although its a little more tricky, we can project time the same way:

Wave 3 is generally 1.000 or so (in time) of Wave 1, projected from the end of Wave 2.This is technically named an alternate time projection.

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Combining these, we can get a general idea for price and time:

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Looks like were shooting for 123 to 133 sometime in the middle of January.


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Price and Time Targets for Various Waves

Around 100% of Wave A,projected from end of Wave B

61.8% to 161.8% of Wave A,

projected from end of Wave BWave C

Around 61.8% of Wave A50% to 78.6% of Wave AWave B

Cant be projected. This wave is createdby fundamentals and is howfundamentals drive the market.

Cant be projected. This wave is createdby fundamentals and is howfundamentals drive the market.Wave A

Around 100% of Wave 1,projected from end of Wave 4

100% of Wave 1, projectedfrom end of Wave 4Wave 5

Around 61.8% of Wave 338.2% to 61.8% of Wave 3Wave 4

Around 100% of Wave 1,projected from end of Wave 2

100% to 161.8% of Wave 1,projected from end of Wave 2Wave 3

Around 61.8% of Wave 150% to 78.6% of Wave 1Wave 2



Wave 1

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Note: There are others! I am just presenting basic ideas here.


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How it played out:


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Review of Process (thus far) 1. Label Waves

Determine Bullish or Bearish Determine Stop Loss

2. Perform Price and Time Projections

Get an idea for approximately where and

when we should expect trend reversal.


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EntriesReversal Day

Close below todays open (red candle day)Close below yesterdays close (down day)

Stronger signal if it made a new high as well.

ProjectedResistance


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EntriesStop

Sell Short on Close

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Reversal Day


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Sell Short on Close

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PaperProfit


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Loss :-(

Credit crisis was

actually a noviceaccounting mistake.Oops.

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Trailing Stops

N-Day high or N-Day low. N is a number.

For example:3-Day high

1-Day High2-Day Low

3-Day High:Highest high of last 3 days prior to and

including the extreme point, non-inclusiveof inside days.

Extreme Point

Inside Day:A day whose range is inside the previous

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Trailing Stops



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Trailing Stops



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Inside Day. Its range is inside the previous days range.

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Trailing Stops



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Exits StopRisk


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Exits StopRisk

Nearest Minor Pivot


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Exits StopRisk

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Exits

New Stop(3-day High)

Profit

Exceeded Pivot Move to Trailing Stop

Old Stop

PaperProfit


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Exits

Trailing Stop(3-day High)

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Exits Towards Price Target

Projected Support Levels


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3-Day High


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Getting Close:

Switch to 2-day high.


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Region Hit:Switch to 1-day High


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Region Hit:Switch to 1-day High


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Region Hit:

Switch to 1-day High

If this is a major collapse,we want to hang around for it.

Therefore, we continue with thetight trailing stop instead of justtaking profit immediately.


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Reversal Day-Close trade.

Go long?


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Trend-Continuation Entries


Projected Resistance Levels

Reversal Day But we missed it.Should have sold short,but I didnt see it. Still good profit

potential left though. What now?

Potential profit. However,risk is too large to enternow (stop loss too far away).


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Trend-Continuation EntriesInside Day Trend-Continuation Entry

Inside day. This days range is inside the previous days range.

Sell Short if price exceeds this

Stop loss goes here


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Trend-Continuation EntriesOutside Day Trend-Continuation Entry

Outside day. This days range is outside the previous days range.

Sell Short if price exceeds this

Stop loss goes here


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Enter if we go below this

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McDonalds filesChapter 11 oncredit losses.

Bear Market S&P 500 Activity


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We will now go through a step-by stepwalkthrough of the entire Bear Market,from the beginning.

It will begin very detailed, but eventuallyjust show the method is working.


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119Note: I am deliberately counting this section differently from at the beginningof this presentation. And it still works! This shows the versatility of these techniques.


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Choosing the Spread


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Heres our example from before. We said we are expecting approximately$123 to $133 sometime in the middle of January.

Always target the worst-case scenario: Assume the stock goes to $133.We therefore want a bear put spread with the short put at $133. For long put, choosean ITM option with strike above stop loss. The more ITM, the better.


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Choosing the Spread

If we hit profit target at expiration:

Long Put: $27.00Short Put: $0.00

Put Spread: $27.00


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So, if we are right, spread will be worth between $22.02 and $27.00, which,considering the original spread cost was $14.93,represents profits of 47% and 81%.

If wrong, spread will be worth $10 and will represent a loss of 33%.

If we hit stop tomorrow (not as bad):

Long Put: $12.26

Short Put: $0.70 Put Spread: $11.56 (loss of 23%)

Risk Management

If we risk our whole account every time, eventually well be wrong three times

in a row and lose 50% three times (thus losing 87.5% of the account). Thats not good.

We solve this by only risking 3% of our account on any trade.


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We said the risk in the spread was 33%.

To position size, simply divide 3% by 33%: 0.03 / 0.33 = 9.1%

Therefore, we can buy 9.1% of the account on this option spread. The rest

should be held in cash. On a $100,000 account, we buy $9100 of this spread.Since the original spread price was $14.93, we buy a 6-contract spread.

If we are right, we should get a return between 47% to 81%. Well say 65% forsake of argument.

65% return on 9.1% of your account is 5.9%.For intermediate-term investing, you will trade a spread around 10 times per year.(Wrong 10 times: -26%).

Special Thanks To:Dynamic Trading, by Robert Miner

Little of anything presented today is original. I now credit my primary sourceAnd direct you to this book for more detailed instruction if you are still interested.


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