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IAEA TM on Theory of Plasmas Instabilities, Trieste 2-4 / 03 / 2005Y. Sarazin 1 Kinetic & Fluid Kinetic & Fluid descriptions descriptions of interchange of interchange turbulence turbulence Y. Sarazin, E. Fleurence, X. Garbet, Ph. Ghendrih, V. Grandgirard, M. Ottaviani Association Euratom-CEA, CEA/DSM/DRFC Cadarache, France P. Bertrand LPMIA-Université Henri Poincaré, Vandœuvre-lès-Nancy, France

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Kinetic & Fluid descriptions of interchange turbulence. Y. Sarazin, E. Fleurence, X. Garbet, Ph. Ghendrih, V. Grandgirard, M. Ottaviani Association Euratom-CEA, CEA/DSM/DRFC Cadarache, France P. Bertrand LPMIA-Université Henri Poincaré, Vandœuvre-l è s-Nancy, France. c . fluid. kinetic. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Kinetic & Fluid  descriptions of interchange turbulence

IAEA TM on Theory of Plasmas Instabilities, Trieste 2-4 / 03 / 2005 Y. Sarazin 1

Kinetic & Fluid descriptionsKinetic & Fluid descriptions

of interchange turbulenceof interchange turbulence

Y. Sarazin, E. Fleurence, X. Garbet,Ph. Ghendrih, V. Grandgirard, M. Ottaviani

Association Euratom-CEA, CEA/DSM/DRFC Cadarache, France

P. Bertrand

LPMIA-Université Henri Poincaré, Vandœuvre-lès-Nancy, France

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IAEA TM on Theory of Plasmas Instabilities, Trieste 2-4 / 03 / 2005 Y. Sarazin 2

MotivationMotivationss

Strong discrepancies between

kinetic & fluid descriptions

of turbulence:

Linear thresholdsNon linear fluxes

[Beer '95, Dimits '00]

kineticfluid

New type of non collisionnal closures:

Non local [Hammet-Perkins '90,Snyder-Hammet-Dorland '97, Passot-Sulem '03]

Non dissipative [Sugama-Watanabe-Horton '01,'04]

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Outline of the Outline of the talktalk

Standard closure assumes weak departure from local thermodynamical equilibrium (F Maxwellian)

small number of moments required

Aim:

Compare kinetic & fluid approaches (linear & non-linear)

in a simple turbulence problem:

Same instability (2D interchange)

Same numerical tool

Closure based on entropy production rate

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2D+1D interchange instability 2D+1D interchange instability

Constant curvature drift: Evd ey

Slab geometry (x,y)

Limit ki 0

Hamiltonian: H = vdEx

v//0 ions E v2

Adiabatic electrons

Drift kinetic eq.

Quasi-neutrality

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2 neglected

Fluid Fluid descriptiondescription

2 first moments of Vlasov evolution of density & pressure

Closure:

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IAEA TM on Theory of Plasmas Instabilities, Trieste 2-4 / 03 / 2005 Y. Sarazin 6

Different linear stability Different linear stability diagrammesdiagrammes

Threshold instability: *Tc (1 k2) d

kinetic

(1) (1+k2) d fluid

Vanishing relative discrepancy for large density gradients *n

at *n

0

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2 distributions at energies

Fluid Fluid F at 2 F at 2 energiesenergies

Constraint: same numerics to treat fluid & kinetic descriptions

Ensures dissipation at small scalesstability of

Equivalent to 1 closure

in the limit 1

cf [V. Grandgirard, 2004 & this conference]

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Adjustable linear Adjustable linear propertiesproperties

3 degrees of freedom in fluid: T0, and D

Linear fluid properties can mimic kinetic ones:Linear fluid properties can mimic kinetic ones:

1. Linear threshold:

*Tc d(1 k2)

F(T0, , D)

adequate choice

2. Unstable spectrum width(or maximum growth rate)

at *n

0

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IAEA TM on Theory of Plasmas Instabilities, Trieste 2-4 / 03 / 2005 Y. Sarazin 9

(analogous to "Dimits graph" with the same code)

Non linear discrepancy: QNon linear discrepancy: Qflfl Q Qkinkin

Heat turbulent transport larger in fluid than kinetic

by orders of magnitude

Suggest non linear threshold (Dimits upshift ?)

Transition not understood: ZF unchanged

(amplitude & dynamics)

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(analogous to "Dimits graph" with the same code)

Zonal Flows DO NOT Zonal Flows DO NOT

explainexplain

the whole differencethe whole difference Larger turbulent flux when ZF artificially suppressed

Difference still present between kinetic & fluid (orders of magnitude)

Note similar T profiles

for similar fluxes

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Quantifying the departure from FQuantifying the departure from FMaxwell

Projection on the basis of Laguerre polynomials Lp

(standard approach for neoclassical transport)

with

CorrespondanceCorrespondance

kth Fluid moment Polynomes L1 … Lk

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2 fluid moments are not 2 fluid moments are not enoughenough

Ortho-normal basis Lp

Slow convergence towards 0

Suggest any fluid description

of the problem

should account for

high order moments Mk (k>2)

May explain why fluid & kinetic results are still different w/o ZFMay explain why fluid & kinetic results are still different w/o ZF

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Alternative closure: entropy production Alternative closure: entropy production ratesrates

SQL governed by QL transport

Closure fulfils 2nd principle

.

Weights WQL :

Kinetic: infinity of resonances

Fluid: only 2

Main ideas:

Fluid closure: Q ( P + Peq ) Toperator: r(ky) + i i(ky)

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Similar linear behaviour Similar linear behaviour w/o ad-hoc dissipation

Same threshold as in kinetic: *Tcfl kyvd(1+k

2) *Tc

kin

Stability of small scales: implies i / ky 0

Similar linear spectra what about non linear behaviour ?

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ConclusionConclusionss

Looking for adequate fluid closures: what degree of convergence kinetic-fluid is requested? (, spectrum, dynamics, …)

Same numerical tool applied to 2D interchange model

1st closure: weak departure from FM (Q P T)– Linear properties can be made comparable (D required)– Fluid transport Kinetic transport– Non linear upshift not captured by ZF only (Non linear upshift not captured by ZF only ( Dimits) Dimits)– Possible explanation: large number of fluid moments required

22ndnd closure: Q closure: Q (P (P P Peq eq ) T) T– Target: balance entropy production rates Target: balance entropy production rates – Linear properties are similar

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Semi-Lagrangian numerical Semi-Lagrangian numerical schemescheme

Semi-Lagrangian scheme:

Fixed grid in phase space

Follow the characteristics backward

in time

Total distribution function F Global code

Damping at radial ends to prevent numerical instabilities at boundaries

Good conservation properties (e.g. Error on energy < 1%)

Phase space

time

t t

t

x

[Grandgirard et al. 2004]