ukedchat archive 18 november 2010

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colport 19:57@lordlangley73 "How do you embed thinking skills into your everyday

lessons? What works best?" #ukedchat starts in a few minutes

bevevans22 20:00Welcome everyone. It's time for #ukedchat. Our topic: How do you

embed thinking skills into your everyday lessons? What works best?

dmchugh675 20:01#UKEdChat Good start is to highlight which skills will be developed at the

beginning of the lesson.

mooshtang 20:01RT @OhLottie: Taking part in talks with architects about new school build:

my ideal KS2 classroom + ICT suite. Your thoughts? #ukedchat

briankotts 20:01US scientists significantly more likely to publish fake research, study finds

http://bit.ly/97Ruos /via @sciencedaily #edchat #ukedchat

tutor2u 20:01RT @BAFDiploma: The more I think about #GEW the more I believe thatstudents are stifled by a didactic curriculum and fear of making mistakes.

#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:01Does anyone have any tried and tested strategies or ideas they enjoy

using? #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:02@bevevans22 #ukedchat I think that using discussion partners so that

they can try their ideas out on each other before writing etc helps

bevevans22 20:02@dmchugh675 How do you think that is best achieved? And does that

change depending on Key Stage? #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:02I think we need to start from the idea that thinking skills are explicit

outcomes of our teaching. #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:02good evening. ironically my PGCE students are having trouble with

thinking skills simply due to not allowing thinking time.#ukedchat

tobyholman 20:03By showing the result, the target, the outcome and not always the

process / path : #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:04@DrAshCasey at the risk of sounding like a mathematician, are thinking

skills product or process? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:04Our school currently adopts Habits of Minds strategies in addition to

other ideas. Does anyone else subscribe to a similar idea? #ukedchat

janeyk419 20:04#UKEdChat Two lots of learning objectives? Make the usual content and

skills clear but also stress particular thinking skills?

Creativeedu 20:05 Hi All, sorry I'm late! #UKEdChat

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bevevans22 20:05RT @teachesict: i agree with @john_at_muuua - it is essential to allow

time for students to think #ukedchat


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janeyk419 20:08@deerwood #UKEdChat Yup! Literally have hats!! Works well, especially

once students come to expect it. Can work in groups and whole class

Creativeedu 20:08B/c this isn't my specialist area please can someone define for me exactly

what we mean when we talk about thinking skills? #UKEdChat

bevevans22 20:08RT @duckinwales: #ukedchat first bit of CPD tonight - research Habits of

Minds! < There are links on the NGFL Cymru site I think

nellmog 20:08@deerwood use the thinking hats often in Art lessons to develop different

types of ideas #ukedchat

familysimpson 20:09How do you embed thinking skills into your everyday lessons? What

works best? #ukedchat sounds interesting!

janeyk419 20:09

@dmchugh675 #UKEdChat Agree - snowballing can work really well.

Used today with Y9s looking at aid/Haiti!

john_at_muuua 20:09What exactly are the 'skills' that we are referring to? Paragraphing is a

tangible skill, but can a thought process be tangible? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:10RT @teachesict: @bevevans22 - what is the Habits of Minds strategy?

#ukedchat Focus on particular elements - Finding humour, persistence...

mikemcsharry 20:10my last comment was only slightly flippant - we identified this need in one

staff appraisal #ukedchat

sharland 20:10#UKEdChat one 'thinking skill' I try and push is independent learning in the

class - give targets, resources and let them get on with it

janeyk419 20:10#UKEdChat Do people agree that we're talking PLTS? Or is it more than

that?

redtedart 20:10Our little Snowmen: http://bit.ly/agyGwE #crafts #ukedchat

#teachpreschool

dmchugh675 20:11 @carolrainbow I use snowballing. Start in pairs, then fours, then eights.Great for arguments. #UKEdChat

DrAshCasey 20:11@dmchugh675 we cannot assume that things are learnt. if we know if we

don't tech it right because students don't learn it right. #ukedchat

DKMead 20:11Feuersteins work shows what works best in an academic sense

highlighting the need for "bridging" metacognitive tasks #ukedchat

DKMead 20:12@deerwood been using them for 13 years. They remain an extremely

useful tool to help students manage their thinking #ukedchat

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DrAshCasey 20:12In order to teach thinking skills we have to forground thinking itself. Are

we encouraging students to think or do? #ukedchat

STEMclubs 20:12@deerwood Or ever tried using De Bono's hats in staff meetings?

Thinking skills tricks are useful for everyone, not just students! #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:12@CreativeEdu Google :Thinking skills incl thinking analytically, logically &

creatively 2 form reasoned judgments & solve problems #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:12There'sinformation her about habits of Mind for those who haven't heard

of it #ukedchat: http://bit.ly/9q4aou

mikemcsharry 20:13expand your vocabulary and expand your opportunities - we now have 1

staff member who has a seriously complex word emailed daily! #ukedchat

Janeh271 20:14

@deerwood six hats good to focus thinking, let's just do some green hat

thinking etc as well as making thinking explicit #ukedchat

sharland 20:14 @DrAshCasey #ukedchat I think we should do both

JoeyFeith 20:14I agree @DrAshCasey Are we creating a learning environment that allows

for thinking skills to develop? #ukedchat

janeyk419 20:14#UKEdChat At Sec level how to get students to value those skills? Have

had to work hard on that one "but is this on the exam Miss?"

duckinwales 20:14 #ukedchat @CreativeEdu really it's problem solving by a posh name!

sharland 20:14RT @dmchugh675: @carolrainbow I use snowballing. Start in pairs, then

fours, then eights. Great for arguments. #UKEdChat

bevevans22 20:14@DrAshCasey Hopefully we are giving them a good grounding in skills that

help them become more independent #ukedchat

familysimpson 20:14

RT @theotheralig: We use a scheme known as Building Learning Power

BLP http://www.guyclaxton.com/blp.htm It is very effective when

embedded.#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:15RT @duckinwales: #ukedchat @CreativeEdu really it's problem solving by

a posh name!

Smichael920 20:15#ukedchat thinking skills support xhildren in the move from passive

recipient to active learner.

philallman1 20:15clearly not done a good job if critical thinking has to be taught as a core

option at AS level! What do we teach before this then? #ukedchat

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john_at_muuua 20:15@duckinwales @CreativeEdu true, but are these not assessed in writing,

usually in response to reading? not really a separate skill #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:15For anyone just joining us the topic of tonight's #ukedchat is How do you

embed thinking skills into your everyday lessons? What works best

RealLara 20:15@janeyk419 I like that idea. I can see that working. Learning objective,

context, thinking skill focus #ukedchat

DKMead 20:16@john_at_muuua www.criticalthinking.org has the best set of definitions

I've seen #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:16#ukedchat @mikemcsharry ...a seriously complex word emailed daily!


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DKMead 20:17

RT @bevevans22: RT @Smichael920: #ukedchat thinking skills support

xhildren in the move from passive recipient to active learner being creative if you TELL them that you want

them to be so. Often keep ideas to selves otherwise!

RealLara 20:17I particularly like using philosophy for children in KS2. Encouraging asking

questions & listening, not answer focused #ukedchat

JaneDavis13 20:18

RT @ukedchat: An interesting #ukedchat starts in 30 mins with

@bevevans22 "How do you embed thinking skills into your everyday

lessons? What works best?"

deerwood 20:18 I recall using lateral thinking puzzles with some success #ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:18Hi all, late tonight and on mobile! A good way to encourage thinking is to

only allow hands up if extending a previous answer #ukedchat

DKMead 20:18@JoeyFeith true but sometimes you need to teach them to think in a

different way #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:18do you think an improved focus on thinking skills will make students more

employable? #UKEdChat

dizzydanni84 20:18RT @redtedart: Our little Snowmen: http://bit.ly/agyGwE #crafts

#ukedchat #teachpreschool

bevevans22 20:18Thinking skills - do you have your own approach or does your school have

a consistent overview on how things should be done? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:19@DeputyHeadDunn Welcome. We're discussing How do you embed

thinking skills into your everyday lessons? What works best? #ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:19 RT @RealLara: I particularly like using philosophy for children in KS2.Encouraging asking questions & listening, not answer focused #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:19If better thinking means better employability surely that's more important

than anything you can find on an exam paper? #UKEdChat

RealLara 20:19@Smichael920 absolutely. It worries me when some children seem to

feel put upon when required to think #ukedchat

JoeyFeith 20:20@DrAshCasey Ok so that's the problem How do we fix it? How can we

allow ourselves to take the time to realize the needs of ea kid? #ukedchat

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mikemcsharry 20:20@duckinwales @duckinwales bit by bit. The tough word is already

showing a slight improvement in confidence and accuracy. #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:20So, when do we start introducing Thinking skills - Foundation? KS1? KS2?

What are your thoughts #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:20@DKMead that's true, but in a system defined by assessment can thinking

really be separated from the process leading 2 the product?#ukedchat

philallman1 20:20 @Creativeedu why is it not on one then? #ukedchat should be!

janeyk419 20:20@Janeh271 #UKEdChat Entirely agree! PLTS in isolation is nonsense.

Difficult to ensure it's embedded across school though. Working on that!

DrAshCasey 20:21

@DKMead @JoeyFeith but this new way of thinking is something that

they construct from their old thinking rather than just assume #ukedchat

janeyk419 20:21@DrAshCasey #UKEdChat What is a "traditional" LO? Do you mean

content led?

john_at_muuua 20:21Do thinking skills work better in some subjects rather than others?

#ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:21 @bevevans22 foundation! Asap really #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:21@philallman1 I completely agree - but then how can you assess it?

#UKEdChat

mikemcsharry 20:21 @bevevans22 thinking skills should be always and everywhere #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:21Do traditional learning outcomes really allow for high order thinking? do

we aspire to the top end of bloom's taxonomy? #ukedchat

RealLara 20:22 @john_at_muuua Easier to integrate into some perhaps? #ukedchat

janeyk419 20:22 @reallara #UKEdChat "What's the question to this answer?"?!!

Sport_ed 20:22Questioning important to encourage thinking but allowing all to answer

vital-mini whiteboards great 4 getting all to contribute #ukedchat

nadiavoodoo 20:22@teachesict #ukedchat, absolutley. I loved it when I had the

responsibility of marking my peers work as part of MY assessment. MEd

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JoeyFeith 20:22@DKMead I totally agree My concern is with teachers who don't realize

that not every student will automatically think the same way #ukedchat

mr_chadwick 20:22@bevevans22 Fd children show great thinking skills/independance.

Curriculum in KS1 knocks it out of them! #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:22The assessment of thinking skills is in the development of the other areas

of the curriculum #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:22@mikemcsharry We introduce them at a very young age and the school

has a set strategy and approach. It is making a difference #ukedchat

RealLara 20:22Posing answers and asking children for questions is a great way to wake

up sluggish brains #ukedchat

mikemcsharry 20:22

quote "I'm not creative" response "well you just created that sentence

didnt you?" #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:23Thinking skills - how do you embed them? What works? Some interesting

ideas so far #ukedchat.

TheHeadsOffice 20:23 @bevevans22 I agrre! The earlier the better! #ukedchat

herrn96 20:23

@DrAshCasey re: Bloom's - a good way to challenge colleagues to

introduce Bloom's is to use his vocab in writing lesson outcomes

#ukedchat

mikemcsharry 20:23just been reading 'leading at higher level' and listening to chip and dan

heath - you guys would love that stuff #ukedchat

ckzebra 20:23I am worried that too much focus on 'outcomes' will mean we lose the

benefits of the process of learning. #UKEdChat

john_at_muuua 20:23i'm thinking (!) my Y9 taking an hour to discuss the role of troops in

Afghanistan. Serious considered and open ended thinking. #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:23

@JoeyFeith if talking #physed then we need to acknoledge that the

traditions of our subject don't work and find new ways- not easy

#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:24Peer and self assessment seem to be key - how do you encourage and

implement this? We started with learning logs #ukedchat

RealLara 20:24 Also like to use Ian Gilbert style Thunks #ukedchat

DKMead 20:24

@john_at_muuua agree schools need to facilitate a response that

protects against a limited curriculum we should aim to do both

#ukedchat

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Creativeedu 20:24Are thinking skills very different in different subject areas e.g. would they

be different in PE than maths? #UKEdChat

janeyk419 20:24#UKEdChat We've been given ActiveExpression handsets. Can work as

good alternative to "brainstorm" - all give a response!

STEMclubs 20:24What about RSA's Opening Minds framework?http://thersa.org/projects/expertises/education/opening-minds-

old/opening-minds-faqs #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:25#ukedchat Thinking skills important for future employment of our pupils-

not knowledge of Kings & Queens

DrAshCasey 20:25@herrn96 when we are talking of bloom's trying to help student think in

higher order ways could/should be an aim of education #ukedchat

JoeyFeith 20:25

@DrAshCasey not easy at all. But there are ways to promote thinking in

#physed. Questioning, tactical talk, etc. #ukedchat

ckzebra 20:25I concur! RT @herrn96: a good way to challenge colleagues to introduce

Bloom's is to use his vocab in writing lesson outcomes #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:25RT @reallara: Also like to use Ian Gilbert style Thunks #ukedchat , Thunks

build on Philosophy for Children - is that right?

TheHeadsOffice 20:25@Creativeedu I don't think there is a difference. It ia bout using all the

strategies available & asking questions #ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:25Ken Robinson refs Breakpoint and beyond studied Divergent thinking. 98%

of pre school rated genius (1 of 2) #ukedchat

RealLara 20:25 @janeyk419 I love my ActivExpressions! #ukedchat

philallman1 20:26Da Costa 'Its knowing what to do when you don't know what to do.

#ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:26 To develop thinking skills there needs to be a shared vocabulary. We usedELLI #ukedchat

janeyk419 20:26@CreativeEdu #UKEdChat > to do something like boarding or skating!

Collaborative, reflective...!!!

Creativeedu 20:26So someone with sound thinking skills would be constantly self-evaluating

throughout a lesson? #UKEdChat

digitalme_ 20:27When designing projects I always find myself going back to the buck

instute http://bit.ly/aQA70v #ukedchat

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triches 20:27When designing projects I always find myself going back to the buck

instute http://bit.ly/aQA70v #ukedchat

DKMead 20:27Got to say Blooms is such a limited tool As educators seem to ignore the

dimension that may make it coherent - ditch Blooms #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:27Is there a danger of restricting the way in which students think if we

restrict the way in which we measure it? #UKEdChat

Ideas_Factory 20:27#ukedchat Thinking skills-anyone do the excellent P4C? Philosophy for

Children.Abstract thinking just as valuable

mooshtang 20:27RT @ckzebra: I am worried that too much focus on 'outcomes' will mean

we lose the benefits of the process of learning. #UKEdChat

janeyk419 20:27

@reallara #UKEdChat Love my AE's too. More of a challenge when you

teach in 7 different rooms but they work like a charm!!

john_at_muuua 20:27@ckzebra sadly we're already there. thinking skills (not a helpful term) is a

strike against that trend#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:27An idea I heard, as an intro to 'teamwork', involved groups of pupils trying

to erect tents in a given time. Anyone done this? #ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:28By 10 it was 50% and had dropped away to nearly nothing by 15.

http://bit.ly/cFDcts #ukedchat RSA animate presentation

jessamacookie 20:28Def agree RT @ckzebra I am worried that too much focus on 'outcomes'

will mean we lose the benefits of the process of learning. #UKEdChat

Creativeedu 20:28@deerwood what a fascinating idea. I'd love to hear examples. Have you

tried it? #UKEdChat

john_at_muuua 20:28 not all subjects think alike. #ukedchat

dmchugh675 20:28 @Creativeedu It all comes back to how any lesson is framed. Is there achallenge/problem or will kids go through the motions #UKEdChat

bevevans22 20:28RT @TheHeadsOffice: To develop thinking skills there needs to be a

shared vocabulary. We used ELLI #ukedchat


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bevevans22 20:31RT @15snapper: re miniwhiteboards. Wallwisher is a cool way to take

that beyond the classroom: http://bit.ly/byhRqw #ukedchat < as is Linoit

dmchugh675 20:31@Creativeedu measurement is a hot potato. If we create a rubric for skills

kids will go through the motions? Is assessment needed? #UKEdChat

Creativeedu 20:31Kids least strait jacketed by prior learning are sometimes the free-est

thinkers. I've seen this in special ed. #UKEdChat

Ideas_Factory 20:32 #ukedchat It's resilience-it's self reflection-it's problem solving-it's critical!

john_at_muuua 20:32 @asober thanks for that! very helpful. #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:32

@john_at_muuua @deerwood We have a very enthusiastic person

developing this aspect - I will find out and report bakc #ukedchat

EddieGouthwaite 20:32@Elmlea1981 #ukedchat At first I thought it might have been a political

choice http://tinyurl.com/36cg33z Barnsley - Newham

mr_chadwick 20:32RT @AdiNotNow: By 10 it was 50% and had dropped away to nearly

nothing by 15. http://bit.ly/cFDcts #ukedchat RSA animate presentation

john_at_muuua 20:32RT @asober: The best Thinking Skills framework I have come across and it

really works! http://bit.ly/bbUKcl #ukedchat

RunFunStarz 20:32Good question. RT @CreativeEdu: R thinking skills vry difft in difft subject

areas e.g. wld they B difft in PE than maths? #UKEdChat

Creativeedu 20:32@dmchugh675 agree but without assessment will they be motivated in

our exam culture? #UKEdChat

mr_chadwick 20:32RT @AdiNotNow: Ken Robinson refs Breakpoint and beyond studied

Divergent thinking. 98% of pre school rated genius (1 of 2) #ukedchat

Sheffield_stuff 20:32

RT @EddieGouthwaite - #Ukedchat Newham Council

http://tinyurl.com/33xggnw teaches Barnsley Council

http://tinyurl.com/37fj3om On expe...

TeacherTalks 20:32RT @Ideas_Factory #ukedchat Anyone do P4C? Abstract thinking just as

valuable >> yep, big fan...should be part of every curriculum!

john_at_muuua 20:32@ckzebra VERY interested in redesigning the curriculum to be much more

joined up. transferable skills. #ukedchat

triches 20:32@deerwood Musical Futures have done a lot of work around music and

project based learning http://bit.ly/9uVbor #ukedchat

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john_at_muuua 20:33@bevevans22 @deerwood please do. time to re-think how we do this

job. #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:33@asober would be even better if it hadn't been blocked! #ukedchat - at

least linoit still works

Creativeedu 20:33maybe the whole sec curriculum should be refocused around key skills

like thinking and learning instead more like primary ed? #UKEdChat

ICanTeach_uk 20:33tried Role Play of kids being bacteria/WBCs for a keeping healthy unit and

filmed it - hilarious! #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:33For those just joining #ukedchat - How do you embed thinking skills into

your everyday lessons - wht works best?

dmchugh675 20:33

@janeyk419 sounds amazing. Please let us know how you get on!!

#UKEdChat

MrColleyStMarys 20:33Any project ideas for engaging my form with their new blog? Reaction so

far has been 'meh'! #edtech #edchat #ukedchat

philallman1 20:33RT @john_at_muuua: vry int. in redesigning the curriculum 2 B much

more joined up. transferable skills. #ukedchat


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TeacherTalks 20:35RT @asober The best Thinking Skills framework I have come across!

http://bit.ly/bbUKcl #ukedchat >>couldn't agree more!

bevevans22 20:35@asober As could other collaborative tools like Dabbleboard - the sharing

of ideas can and should cross boundaries (bit like #ukedchat)

janeyk419 20:35 @CreativeEdu #UKEdChat Long term vs short term outcomes :/

ICanTeach_uk 20:35 Marshmallow challenge is good for teamwork and thinking #ukedchat

familysimpson 20:35RT @bevevans22: There'sinformation her about habits of Mind for those

who haven't heard of it #ukedchat: http://bit.ly/9q4aou

deerwood 20:35

How about debating skills (sounds a bit public school, I know) as a means

of developing thinking skills? #ukedchat

JaneDavis13 20:35RT @bevevans22: For those just joining #ukedchat - How do you embed

thinking skills into your everyday lessons - wht works best?

AdiNotNow 20:35If divergant thinking drops off, are we teaching it out of them or rather

constraining their thinking with 1D thought training? #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:35@deerwood hang on a minute... I do that and we call it drama! :-)

#ukedchat

ckzebra 20:36@john_at_muuua My aim is 2 deliver synergy, functionality, independent

thinking, creativity & resilience through themes & subjects #ukedchat

janeyk419 20:36@CreativeEdu #UKEdChat Agree. But until we have the chance to focus

on long term, SLT will always want immediate impact. Not good but true!

familysimpson 20:36RT @asober: The best Thinking Skills framework I have come across and it

really works! http://bit.ly/bbUKcl #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:36 @Creativeedu Primary needs to go back to risk taking to re-introduce theTS work they did. #ukedchat

philallman1 20:36RT @CreativeEdu: as an employer I look for SKILLS and PROMISE not

GCSEs #UKEdChat


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ICanTeach_uk 20:36threat of a flipcam and posting on safe school website normally ups the

ante for learning #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:36

I know many employers look at GCSEs but it's perfectly possible for

someone to have 11* and be completely useless in the workplace

#UKEdChat

deerwood 20:36@john_at_muuua There you go! #ukedchat and you thought drama was

just acting ;)

DKMead 20:36

@ICanTeach_uk so how do you move between the levels?all of those

websites are different- blooms is unideal interesting but flawed

#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:36RT @ICanTeach_uk: Marshmallow challenge is good for teamwork and

thinking #ukedchat


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asober 20:37Possible good example of how Teachers acting as facilitators encourage

developing thinking in the classroom? http://bit.ly/8vZ7eB #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:38RT @philallman1: I'm not an FFT level I'm a pupil! #ukedchat--- Hate it

when the FFTs are branded around!!

TheHeadsOffice 20:38@Creativeedu How would employers find out that a potential employee

has good thinking skills? #ukedchat

MissiF 20:38Just joined, fresh from parents' evening! Think it is important to share

own thinking processes with students. #UKEdChat

jessamacookie 20:38

Here here RT @Creativeedu maybe the exams focus is where we're going

wrong. as an employer I look for SKILLS and PROMISE not GCSEs

#UKEdChat

ICanTeach_uk 20:38

@DKMead most of the web 2.0 stuff will be obsolete in 3 years anyway -

working on a plan #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:38RT @philallman1: I'm not an FFT level I'm a pupil! #ukedchat


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ICanTeach_uk 20:39Here's the marshmallow challenge http://bit.ly/90Od73 and i love em

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:39@deerwood BECAUSE it takes it beyond brain storming/collecting/sorting

ideas and links to creating own info pages wi..#ukedchat

dmchugh675 20:39@Creativeedu that what has happened in N Ireland. KS3 is a skills based

curriculum. Content is there as a vehicle 4 skills #UKEdChat

asober 20:39@janwebb21 ever used http://bit.ly/7ymVzp ? I think it has great

potential too #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:39This week I interviewed for an apprentice. The kid I chose had been

written off as thick. BUT great problem solver, just bored #UKEdChat

ckzebra 20:39

Will blog about curriculum plans and how the response is over the next

week. I would love some feedback. Wish me luck! #UKEdChat

ICanTeach_uk 20:40RT @15snapper: @Sport_ed re: miniwhiteboards. Wallwisher is a cool

way to take that beyond the classroom: http://bit.ly/byhRqw #ukedchat

EddieGouthwaite 20:40@deerwood #ukedchat I tried linking Barnsley and Newham with

#olympics2012 and @Elmlea1981 Not political link is it? #ThinkingSkills

bellaale 20:40RT @herrn96: Want to stretch and challenge students' creative thinking?

http://bit.ly/agxoSy #ukedchat > I LOVE that!

Creativeedu 20:40@theheadsoffice I tend to do a working interview. Throw kids in at the

deep end. You soon find out who can think #UKEdChat

bevevans22 20:40

Lot's of great discussion on tonight's #ukedchat What about a list of

strategies - how many do you use? QUADs, KWL, Concept map,

Fishbone?

RealLara 20:40RT @herrn96: Want to stretch and challenge students' creative thinking?

http://bit.ly/agxoSy #ukedchat


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Creativeedu 20:41anyone willing to write a guest blog post on thinking skills for me?I am out

of my depth but keen to share good practice! #UKEdChat

janeyk419 20:41RT @RealLara: RT @philallman1: I'm not an FFT level I'm a pupil!

#ukedchat Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:41@asober looks good - but we have a blogging capability on the learning

platform (albeit with hitches) #ukedchat

RealLara 20:41RT @philallman1: I'm not an FFT level I'm a pupil! #ukedchat Agree.

Agree. Agree. Agree! #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:41RT @ICanTeach_uk: Here's the marshmallow challenge

http://bit.ly/90Od73 and i love em #ukedchat


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philallman1 20:43RT @janeyk419: @philallman1 #UKEdChat What a great compliment!!< it

wasnt meant as one!

RealLara 20:43RT @bevevans22: @john_at_muuua Surely confident, independent pupils

who know where their strengths lie is proof enough #ukedchat #ukedchat

herrn96 20:43@janwebb21 I can resist no longer - wikis take wallwisher anddabbleboard one step further #ukedchat --> Start using GoogleDocs.

Awesome!

Creativeedu 20:44I went to Oxford - best thing I learned was how to think fast and talk my

way out of a corner during tutorials with amazing minds! #UKEdChat

janwebb21 20:44@herrn96 we use google docs but not for writing based activities!

#ukedchat

familysimpson 20:44

RT @RealLara: RT @herrn96: Want to stretch and challenge students'

creative thinking? http://bit.ly/agxoSy #ukedchat


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deerwood 20:45A couple of other techniques to think about; mood boards and vision

boards #ukedchat

triches 20:45@CreativeEdu US airforce found the best indicator of a successful pilot

was whether they played with model planes as a kid! #ukedchat

mister_jim 20:45#ukedchat I use random partners & mini plenaries 2promote thinking. I've

also used wallwisher & blog comments

familysimpson 20:45RT @bevevans22: RT @ICanTeach_uk: Here's the marshmallow challenge

http://bit.ly/90Od73 and i love em #ukedchat So agree project/success criteria &do it #ukedchat

RealLara 20:46@bevevans22 Love it but give regular opportunities for children to put

hands up after random selection. Paired talk is key #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:46 @deerwood @DKMead #ukedchator even language #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:47@john_at_muuua there's a reason you'll never see me and Cary Grant in

a room together ;-) #UKEdChat

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bevevans22 20:47@john_at_muuua @reallara I have hands up at intro (part. with younger

pupils) no hands up in plenary (except occasionally)#ukedchat

philallman1 20:47RT @reallara: Development of thinking skills shld B a key feature - far

more important than knowledge #ukedchat


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Creativeedu 20:49Does no hands up mean a lot of extra planning for differentiated

questions etc? #UKEdChat

ukedchat 20:49Please remember to add the #ukedchat hash tag for your tweets to be in

the archive and part of the discussion. Ten minutes remain

bevevans22 20:49RT @john_at_muuua: @bevevans22 or lack of control for those who want

to always be the one. #ukedchat


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dmchugh675 20:51@CreativeEdu Kids r getting different experiences from different tchrs. I

want KS3 Tchrs to be specialists like primary Tchrs. #UKEdChat

janwebb21 20:51@herrn96 depends VERY much on the learning context and what we want

the kids to get out of it!!! #ukedchat

Smichael920 20:51#ukedchat some great approaches to groupings that promote thinking

skills from Spencer Kagan. Worth a google!

john_at_muuua 20:51surely part of what makes us professionals is the ability to understand

potential that students don't see themselves... yet #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:51Thank you all for being so helpful and explaining the things I don't

understand today.I have felt my brain grow! #UKEdChat

philallman1 20:51

If we all feel like this about TS why do govts. consistently ignore us?

#ukedchat

mikemcsharry 20:51Isn't thinking the glue that can hold the rest of the knowledge together

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:51@herrn96 no, not necessarily, but that is the one bit that would make it

worth me switching from a collaborative wiki - ...1/2 #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:52@dmchugh675 there is a lot that special, primary and secondary could

learn from each other given half a chance. #UKEdChat

TheHeadsOffice 20:52RT @philallman1: If we all feel like this about TS why do govts.

consistently ignore us? #ukedchat >Do they ever?

RealLara 20:52No hands up without thinking/talking time and random selection goes

against the whole purpose of greater engagement #ukedchat

asober 20:52@janwebb21 would love to hear than! It sounds like you are doing really

interesting stuff! #ukedchat #ukief

janeyk419 20:52 @philallman1 #UKEdChat Ignored by govt?!! Teachers?!! Surely not!!

bevevans22 20:53@teachesict not one I've come across - you just have to remember!

#ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:53 @philallman1 Education the great political football!!! #ukedchat

jessamacookie 20:53xD RT @janeyk419 @philallman1 #UKEdChat Ignored by govt?!!

Teachers?!! Surely not!!

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janeyk419 20:53RT @SusanElkinJourn: @mikemcsharry #ukedchat Yes, that's why ts

should be grated in not bolted on.

duckinwales 20:53Agreed @CreativeEdu Thank you all for explaining the things I don't

understand today.I have felt my brain grow! #UKEdChat


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janwebb21 20:55

RT @asober: Am great believerof kids peer teaching each other. Gives

them resp for own learning and of others. I think it's v powerful

#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:55@JRenold It is difficult to factor in that time when there is so much to fit

into each day - I struggle to fit it all in! #ukedchat

MrFoxinthebox 20:56RT @MoodleMcKean: Editing your Google Docs on the go - Official GoogleDocs Blog http://bit.ly/9Nbgde #mlearning #elearning #edtech #ukedchat

#edchat

janwebb21 20:56RT @bevevans22: okay - we're into the last five minutes of a great

#ukedchat. Any final thoughts to share?

JRenold 20:56

RT @bevevans22: RT @asober: Am great believerof kids peer teaching

each other. Gives them resp for own learning & of others. v powerful

#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:56

okay - we're into the last five minutes of a great #ukedchat. Any final

thoughts to share?

ICanTeach_uk 20:56Some good stuff for thinking (and INSET) http://bit.ly/93sfiV Highly

recommended #ukedchat

asober 20:56Example of video explaining my earlier tweet!

http://youtu.be/x46ZaaIlaYk #ukedchat

suzibewell 20:56@asober hear hear re peer teaching. Rachel Hawkes calls the kids Co-

teachers - must give them a real buzz. #ukedchat

pete_mulvey 20:56Ever tried this. Ask techy folk for 6mm dowel rod. Gets the kids thinking

http://teampedia.net/wiki/index.php?title=Helium_Stick #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:56 @missbrownsword Thinking skills #ukedchat

Pauls_elearning 20:56

@GingerPatti: Read The #edtech Daily today's top stories are

contributed by @Pauls_elearning http://t.co/WpKa28E Cool!

#ukedchat

RealLara 20:56 @missbrownsword How to integrate thinking skills... #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:56 @herrn96 Great idea! I will pinch that one :) #ukedchat

SusanElkinJourn 20:56@bevevans22 @john_at_muuua Don't agree. It can be done with care.

Helps with inclusion #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:56peer teaching sounds like a great tool. That would make a great

#UKEdChat

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Ariellah 20:57

Pitty running out of time- was there a discussion on the Instrument

Enrichment to enhance cognitive thinking - Feuerstein Method?

#ukedchat

TeacherTalks 20:57Shameless plug for my blog, but we should be aware of the views of

Schools Minister: facts all the way! http://bit.ly/9PCzHV #ukedchat

ICanTeach_uk 20:57RT @janwebb21: @ICanTeach_uk @asober #ukedchat only in my own

kitchen!


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janeyk419 20:58#UKEdChat Make the thinking skills an explicit part of the lesson - make

sure the students know what you want and they will rise to it"

bevevans22 20:58

@john_at_muuua Sometimes I use a tag system - the last person who

answered nominates the next one to speak - works well with UKS2.

#ukedchat

philallman1 20:59Chn who succeed in current system oftn struggle w/ TS as it requires

something difft. SEN kids R oftn better 'thinkers' in my exp #ukedchat

bellaale 20:59RT @bevevans22: RT @janeyk419: #UKEdChat Make thnkng skills explct

part of lesson - make sure pupils know what U want & they will rise 2 it"

ianaddison 20:59@dawnhallybone it's ok, but make sure you attend next week as I've

heard the host will moan at you if you miss it ;-) #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:59

RT @reallara: We focus on 'effective questions': choose best answer; rank

these; odd one out etc. Part of our AfL toolkit #ukedchat

RealLara 20:59We focus on 'effective questions': choose best answer; rank these; odd

one out etc. Part of our AfL toolkit #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:59RT @john_at_muuua: 'thinking skills' is a label for what effective teachers

already do to produce well rounded students #ukedchat


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TheHeadsOffice 21:01Sad that I came so late to #ukedchat A good topic that is vital to future

development of all skills

JRenold 21:01@reallara We've got students teaching the teachers in digi-tech.

Fascinating to watch. #ukedchat

duckinwales 21:01Thought provoking #ukedchat on "sgiliau meddwl" tonight - diolch - lots

of links to check and ideas to explore.

bevevans22 21:01That's all folks! Great discussion tonight - as frantic as usual. Thanks for

participating - lots of ideas to take away #ukedchat

ianaddison 21:02 Just planning topics for next week's #ukedchat as I am hosting...any ideas?

Sheffield_stuff 21:02

RT @EddieGouthwaite - #Ukedchat how much is it costing for Barnsley

Council education dept. to Link with Newham #Austerity ?

Smichael920 21:02Children at HS are keeping tally charts in class of open/closed questions.

Staff are supportive & keen to see results! #ukedchat

SusanElkinJourn 21:02Apolgies to followers who aren't teachers.Just finished weekly frenetic

hour's discussion at #ukedchat Exhausted now, as usual

janeyk419 21:02#UKEdChat Thanks all enjoyed it. Now need to read it all a bit slower and

steal all those great ideas! Thanks to @bevevans22

ianaddison 21:03oh...and if your suggestions can be non-tech based, even better!

#ukedchat

STEMclubs 21:03@SusanElkinJourn #ukedchat I've seen it taught as seperate subject, kinda

defeted the point! T'aint what u do, tis the way that u do it...

PhoenixSher 21:03

RT @MoodleMcKean Google Apps Adds Voice, Maps, Reader & More

http://on.mash.to/dy5hwu #elearning #ukedchat #edchat #mlearning

#edtech #gta

AdiNotNow 21:03 @bevevans22 So much on tonights #ukedchat I have tabs aplenty tocheck and an archive to study. Many questions to follow. Thanks all

TheHeadsOffice 21:04ELLI - Effective Lifelong Learning Inventory http://bit.ly/b5UQyO

#ukedchat @deerwood

philallman1 21:04@ianaddison Why do so many NQT's leave within 5 yrs and what can we

do to stop the drain! #ukedchat

janwebb21 21:05RT @RealLara: @ianaddison What would you include in a new essential

curriculum...? #ukedchat idea inspirred by tonight

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janwebb21 21:05RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison Work life Balance - is it really

possible????? #ukedchat

janwebb21 21:05RT @Smichael920: @bevevans22 many thanks for #ukedchat tonight Bev.

tWas a good un! >hear, hear!

bevevans22 21:05 @ianaddison Work life Balance - is it really possible????? #ukedchat

RealLara 21:05@ianaddison What would you include in a new essential curriculum...?

#ukedchat idea inspirred by tonight

Smichael920 21:05 @bevevans22 many thanks for #ukedchat tonight Bev. tWas a good un!

philallman1 21:06

RT @reallara:What would you include in a new essential curriculum...?

#ukedchat M Gove here: facts, facts, straw boaters and surnames only!

janwebb21 21:06RT @philallman1: @ianaddison Why do so many NQT's leave within 5 yrs

and what can we do to stop the drain! #ukedchat

janwebb21 21:06RT @ianaddison: oh...and if your suggestions can be non-tech based, even

better! #ukedchat

OhLottie 21:07Like this! RT @bevevans22 @ianaddison Work life Balance - is it really

possible????? #ukedchat

janwebb21 21:07@ianaddison am loving the suggestions for future discussions!!! hope

they are going on the list at #ukedchat !!!!

dhulston 21:08

RT @Creativeedu: maybe the whole sec curriculum should be refocused

around key skills like thinking and learning instead more like primary ed?

#UKEdChat

suzibewell 21:08@bevevans22 work life balace really depends on how committed you are

to what you do, I don't see my job as work half the time. #ukedchat

mikemcsharry 21:08 just love the 'work/life balance' interst - raised at 9pm !! #ukedchat

janwebb21 21:08 @philallman1 slates, chalk, books #ukedchat

janeyk419 21:08RT @dmchugh675 I'm interested in how we educate parents' about the

changing nature of education in the 21st Century. AGREE!! #ukedchat

philallman1 21:09

RT @colport http://bit.ly/9u2dN4 - I think the education white paper

comes out nxt week?!?! Maybe worthy of a topic?


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Janet1108 21:09

RT @TeacherTalks: Shameless plug for my blog, but we should be aware

of the views of Schools Minister: facts all the way! http://bit.ly/9PCzHV

#ukedchat

daviderogers 21:09RT @mikemcsharry: just love the 'work/life balance' interst - raised at

9pm !! #ukedchat >> Indeed!

davidjamesiles 21:09Does homework improve a child's ability? Is there any evidence?

#ukedchat

RealLara 21:10@davidjamesiles Or just useful ways to make home work meaningful

#ukedchat

daviderogers 21:11@suzibewell @bevevans22 @mikeherrity I agree see>

http://bit.ly/1wWwEK #ukedchat

chris_1974 21:12

gutted to have missed #ukedchat tonight. Not long in from work. Looking

forward to summary's and headlines.

ianaddison 21:13 right, my choices are in, @colport will release the vote soon #ukedchat

philallman1 21:13RT @chris_1974: missed #ukedchat 2nite. Not long in from work. Looking

forward 2 summary's & headlines.

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