ceo roundtable 11-07-08
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November 7, 2008
By: Dr. Lynn O. Michaelis
Tacoma-PierceCounty Chamber of
Commerce
Economic Issues for
2009
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Economic Outlook for 2009
Forward-Looking Statement
Information in this presentation is derived principally from publicly availableInformation in this presentation is derived principally from publicly available
information, forest products and building industry publications and websites,information, forest products and building industry publications and websites,data complied by market research firms, and similar sources. Although wedata complied by market research firms, and similar sources. Although we
believe that this information is reliable, we have not independently verifiedbelieve that this information is reliable, we have not independently verifiedany of this information and we cannot assure you that it is accurate. Thisany of this information and we cannot assure you that it is accurate. This
presentation also contains forecasts regarding future economic conditions,presentation also contains forecasts regarding future economic conditions,demand, commodity prices and similar matters. The accuracy of suchdemand, commodity prices and similar matters. The accuracy of such
forecasts is subject to a number of risks, uncertainties and assumptions thatforecasts is subject to a number of risks, uncertainties and assumptions thatmay cause actual results to differ materially from those projected, including,may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected, including,
but not limited to, the effect of general economic conditions, including thebut not limited to, the effect of general economic conditions, including thelevel of interest rates, housing starts and exchange rates; the relative strengthlevel of interest rates, housing starts and exchange rates; the relative strengthof various U.S. and global business segments; energy prices; raw materialof various U.S. and global business segments; energy prices; raw material
prices; transportation disruptions; the effect of governmental actions; naturalprices; transportation disruptions; the effect of governmental actions; natural
disasters; and the outbreak of terrorism, war and other hostilities.disasters; and the outbreak of terrorism, war and other hostilities.
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Economic Outlook for 2009
Agenda for Today
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Brief Discussion on U.S. EconomicBrief Discussion on U.S. EconomicOutlookOutlook
q Implications for Puget Sound andImplications for Puget Sound and
Washington stateWashington state
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Question and AnswersQuestion and Answers
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Falling home prices are crucial tooverall economic outlook
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0
4
8
12
16
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Growth in Median Price for Existing
Single-family Homes
% Change Year Ago
QuarterlyQMDHO26I Source: Nat'l Assn of Realtors
Aug
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Turmoil in credit markets has shutdown mortgage market
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200
400
600
800
1000
1200
1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Net Flow of Home Mortgages
Billion Current $
AnnualAMDIR52A
2008 Q2
Source: FRB
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Employment already in arecession
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-100
0
100
200
300
400
2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Level Change in U.S.
Non-Agricultural Employment
Thousands
MonthlyMMDOT02E Source: BLS
(Level Change, One Month Ago)
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Consumer cutting durablesspending
0
2
4
6
8
10
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Total
Excl. Autos
U.S. Retail Sales
% Change Year Ago
QuarterlyQMDOT26A
(X = Aug)
Source: Census
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Consumer spending alreadyfalling
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0
2
4
6
1998 2001 2004 2007 2010
Forecast*
Growth in U.S.
Real Consumer Spending
Percent Change
AnnualAMDGA22C Source: BEA, *Weyerhaeuser
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Two ways to correct imbalance:price and income
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-100
0
2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
U.S. Real Net Exports
Billion 2000$
QuarterlyQMDGA07D Source: BEA, *Weyerhaeuser
Forecast*
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Another bubble induced recession
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0
1
2
3
4
5
1998 2001 2004 2007 2010
Source: BEA, *Weyerhaeuser
Forecast*
Growth in U.S. Real GDP
Percent Change
AnnualAMDGA01B
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Now turning to housingbriefhistory lesson
0.6
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.4
1.6
1.8
1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010
Demographic Trend
Source: Census
U.S. Single-family Housing Starts
Million Units
AnnualAMDHO19Q
Dec
C t f l t l
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Current foreclosure rate equals35-50% ofsingle-family trend demand
0.20
0.40
0.60
0.80
1.00
1.20
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Foreclosure Started During Quarter
All Loans
QuarterlyQMDIR25A
(Percent, Seasonally Adjusted)
Source: Mortgage Bankers
Ass'n of America
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Was there a housing price bubble?
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0
10
20
30
40
1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Median Price for Existing Single-family
Homes in California
% Change Year Ago
QuarterlyQMDHO103A Source: California Assn of Realtors
Expectation in 2004
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Boom turns to a serious BUST!
20
40
60
80
100
120
140
160
180
1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Single-family Building Permits for California
(Seasonally Adjusted Annual Rate)
Thousands
QuarterlyQMDHO65G Source: Bureau of Census
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Nominal dollar trade gap is stillvery large, but
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-300
0
2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
U.S. Merchandise Trade Balance
(Seasonally Adjusted Annual Rate)
Billion $
QuarterlyQMDOT59B Source: Census
Aug
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Prices reflect strong globalgrowth and.
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25
50
75
100
2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
Spot Price of Crude Oil for WTI$/BBL
QuarterlyQMDOT24D Source: EIA
(1/23)
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C$ collapse important to the state
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0.70
0.80
0.90
1.00
1.10
1994 1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Forecast*
Source: WSJ, *Weyerhaeuser
Canadian Exchange RateU.S.$/C$(inverse)
AnnualAMICA05A
PPP Estimate*
(10/27)
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Agenda for Today
q
Brief Discussion on U.S. EconomicBrief Discussion on U.S. EconomicOutlookOutlook
q Outlook for Puget SoundOutlook for Puget Sound
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Washington State Employment*(000 Jobs)
2000 2004 2007 2009
Total Wage and Salary 2,680 2,701 2,938 2,995
Manufacturing 336 264 293 293
Non-Manufacturing 2,344 2,428 2,646 2,702
Construction 150 164 207 197
* Non-agricultural
Overall, state employment growthis strong
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Housing market has cooled off
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20
25
30
35
40
45
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1994 1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Existing Home Sales for King County, WA
(Seasonally Adjusted Annual Rate)Thousands
QuarterlyQMDHO73A
Source: WSU Center for Real Estate Research
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Air starting to come out of ourlittle bubble!!!
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0
4
8
12
16
20
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1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Median Home Price for King County, WA% Change Year Ago
QuarterlyQMDHO73J Source: WSU Center for Real Estate Research, NWMLS
August
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Number of units for sale risingrapidly
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2
4
6
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16
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2002.1 2003.1 2004.1 2005.1 2006.1 2007.1 2008.1
Number of Homes and Condos for Sale
in King County, WashingtonThousand
QuarterlyQMDHO114A Source: NW Multiple Listing Service
(Seasonally Adjusted)Estimate
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Construction of new housing down30% or more
10
15
20
25
30
1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Source: Economic Forecaster-Conway/Pedersen
Puget Sound Region
Thousands
AnnualAMDOT164A
Forecast
Single-family Permits
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R il l P b bl i i i if
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Retail sales: Probably optimistic ifaffected by housing
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2
4
6
8
10
1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008
Source: Economic Forecaster-Conway/Pedersen
Puget Sound Retail SalesPercent
AnnualAMDOT165A
Forecast
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Summary of Key Messages for2009
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U.S. Economy headed already in front ofU.S. Economy headed already in front ofserious recessionserious recession
q Extremely uncertain period givenExtremely uncertain period given
financial marketsfinancial markets
q Housing starts remain weak at bothHousing starts remain weak at bothnational and local levelnational and local level
q Most regional forecasts are probablyMost regional forecasts are probably
too hightoo high
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E i O tl k f 2009
What questions ORWhat questions ORCOMMENTS do youCOMMENTS do youhave?have?