sixth assembly 5th meeting september 27th, 2016 minutes · 9/9/2016 · college access...
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I. Call to Order -7:40pm
II. Opening Roll Call
III. Approval of the Agenda
a. Motion to approve; seconded
b. Objection; Seth
i. Remove A.R. 6-006 from new business; seconded; approved
c. Objection; Andrew
i. Consider items d-l in election and recall as block; seconded; approved
d. Objection; Noah
i. Add item m under election, confirmation of Olivia Luciani as campus life
commission chair; seconded; approved
e. Objection; David
i. Add confirmation of Jumanah Saadeh as Rackham Student Representative for the
Faculty Senate (SACUA), Alex Rizo as Rackham Student Representative for the
Faculty Senate (SACUA), Aditya Chintalapti as Rackham Student
Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), Danielle Santos as Rackham
Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), Darrell Allen as
Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), Shannon
Sheehan as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA),
Chenyeng Quin as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate
(SACUA), Tae Lim as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate
(SACUA), John Kloosterman as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty
Senate (SACUA), Ashley Hillness as Rackham Student Representative for the
Faculty Senate (SACUA); seconded; approved
ii. Add to beginning of alphabet pushing a down to f, to be considered part of block;
seconded; approved
f. Objection; David
i. Add election and recall to beginning of agenda as item V; seconded; approved
g. Objection; Sam
i. Table A.R. 6-010; seconded; approved
h. Motion to approve agenda as amended; seconded; approved
IV. Approval of the Previous Minutes
a. Minutes from the 4th meeting on September 20th, 2016 (Sent via email)
i. Motion to approve; seconded; approved
V. Election and Recall of Members
a. Jumanah Saadeh as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), b.
Alex Rizo as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), c.
Aditya Chintalapti as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA),
d. Danielle Santos as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA),
e. Darrell Allen as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), f.
Shannon Sheehan as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA),
g. Chenyeng Quin as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA),
h. Tae Lim as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), i. John
Kloosterman as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA), j.
Ashley Hillness as Rackham Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA).
Sixth Assembly – 5th Meeting
September 27th, 2016
Minutes
i. Jumanah – hi, I’m a new masters student, school of education, part time, work
full time. Really excited about serving on the committee, have extensive
experience, very involved in undergrad in similar appointment, on committee to
interact with board of regents representing various student populations. Non-
traditional students, most are full time so will be nice to have different
perspective.
ii. Alex – hi, first year in PhD chemical biology, working with student relations
committee, undergrad experience, like to plan events and get students involved
and have life-school balance and get started in a new place.
iii. Aditya – hi everyone, dual masters in business and industrial engineering, want
to serve on financial affair advisory committee.
iv. Danielle – hi everyone, first year masters in higher education administration,
came from Smith College in anthropology, recently involved in Chicago as
college access professional. Excited to share my expertise supporting students,
faculty, and staff on campus.
v. Shannon – hi, I’m a first year doctoral student in sociology. Will be on medical
affairs advisory committee, focused on sexuality and identity formation,
background in mental health research. Currently one of 14 grad students
researching with title 9 project, in charge of religious subset.
vi. Daryl – good evening, 2nd year PhD in educational studies, interested because
have a strong passion working for medical services. Thank you for your time.
vii. David – thanks so much. You heard from candidates, vetted through Rackham’s
student gov and through counsels within own schools. Strongly encourage all to
vote in favor of block right now.
1. Four other nominees who couldn’t be here, ask to be included in process,
been vetted.
2. Jared – motion to suspend rule to add four to block; seconded; approved
3. Andrew – POI provisional or regular? A – regular
viii. Motion to confirm all; seconded; approved
k. Confirmation of Vineet Chandra as Wolverine Consulting Group (WCG)
Commission Co-Chair
i. Andrew – met with Vineet last week, great interview, excited about
his resume, perspective everything checked out, excited to give him
recommendation
ii. Motion to confirm; seconded; approved
l. Confirmation of Whit Froehlich as a Student Representative for the Faculty Senate
(SACUA) Medical Affairs Advisory Committee (MAAC), m. Confirmation of
Husam Alghanem as a Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA)
Medical Affairs Advisory Committee (MAAC), n. Confirmation of Sheema Rehman
as a Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA) Student Relations
Advisory Committee (SRAC), o. Confirmation of Sophia Baur-Waisbord as a
Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA) Student Relations Advisory
Committee (SRAC), p. Confirmation of Omar Harb as a Student Representative for
the Faculty Senate (SACUA) Financial Affairs Advisory Committee (FAAC), q.
Confirmation of Pratik Joshi as a Student Representative for the Faculty Senate
(SACUA) Financial Affairs Advisory Committee (FAAC), r. Confirmation of Max
Rothman as a Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA)
Communication and External Relations Advisory Committee (CERAC), s.
Confirmation of Seth Schostak as a Student Representative for the Faculty Senate
(SACUA) Communication and External Relations Advisory Committee (CERAC), t.
Confirmation of Aman Agrawal as the Student Representative for the Faculty Senate
(SACUA) Information Technology Committee (ITC), u. Confirmation of Christian
Bashi as the Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA) General
Counsel Advisory Committee (GCAC), v. Confirmation of Alexander Brewster as a
Student Representative for the Faculty Senate (SACUA) Academic Affairs Advisory
Committee (AAAC)
i. David – SACUA committees are faculty version of CSG, different
committees on which 1 or 2 students sit. Deal with different things.
After outreach, looked at committee descriptions and backgrounds of
applicants. Whit and Husam are medical students, Sheema and
Sophia come from different backgrounds and experiences, strongly
believe will advocate for students on SRAC. Omar and Pratik are the
2 nominees for financial affairs advisory committee, naturally
seamless transition from studies and involvement to this committee.
Max and Seth for communications, Seth has done wonderful job as
vice chair, seamless transition, Max absolute dynamic student leader,
bringing diversity of perspectives. Aman makes sense on information
technology committee, CTO of CSG, done wonderful job of
redefining website, serves on its advisory committee as well.
Christian, law school representative, makes sense to sit on advisory
committee. Alex, diversity of perspectives, background in
engineering, more than Ross or LSA folks on committees.
Competitive process, thank everyone for their interest. Endorse all of
them.
ii. Andrew – all approved
iii. Motion to approve all; seconded; approved
b. Provisional Confirmation of Olivia Luciani as Campus Life Commission
Chair
i. David – background, did restructuring this summer, created
commission out of existing sub commissions on CSG. Academic
policy and affairs and student engagement. Two main focuses of this
commission. Olivia has done a lot of leadership work, served on
Greek life DEI task force. Olivia will do fantastic job establishing
precedence for how commission can be led and issues they can
further this year.
ii. Olivia – hi, junior, passionate about what commission will do.
Leadership positions in sorority, that’s about it, studying
International Studies and French.
iii. Andrew – I recommend her, have not met her but I trust David.
iv. Motion to provisionally confirm; seconded; approved
m. Guest Speakers
n. Community Concerns
a. Keysha, Tyler, Victor, Kate, Shandria
i. Kate – Hi, all with BAMN. I think, everybody knows about racist
flyers around campus yesterday. I think, I’m glad CSG issued
statement last week, I think this body would like to work with people
to put forward another statement and resolution condemning racist
flyer and putting demands on administration. Response is like cut
and pasted from last spring, just as inadequate and response of
students is to say this does not make us feel welcome at all. No
reason, nothing requiring university to put such emphasis on saying
we defend free speech in order to just say, they like could just ay we
condemn these racist acts, put such emphasis on free speech. That
protection of free speech is not universal. A couple weeks ago came
to talk about our friend Justin in immigration detention, been moved
up north, third month in detention, one thing referred to in court
hearing where denied bond was he was at protest of regents here
demanding increasing minority enrollment. That is free speech. But
when it’s free speech of students protesting for equality and against
racism on campus that’s not protected. He’s ben targeted as
undocumented immigrant leader, along with 8 other people who
were issued trespass warning for four years. Meanwhile, racist
threats on campus are escalating, will see more leading up to election
and beyond it. If no real consequences or communication from
administration will continue and escalate, really dangerous, not
question of words, university needs to take action to, one thing
simply can combat racism to increase minority enrollment and
declare sanctuary campus. Need to put demands on administration.
Need to be on the side of minority and immigrant students on
campus. Had passed out petition for Justin a couple weeks ago. We’ll
be doing demonstration at detention center up north this Saturday
also.
ii. Keysha – wanted to remind people, during black action movement,
students shut down campus in the 70’s for three weeks protesting,
students were arrested, what has changed in over 40 years, university
doesn’t do anything on way to first class at 9am, wasn’t sure what I
was seeing, then I went back 5 hours later, they were still there.
That’s not what I came to school to have to do, throw away posters,
as only person in my family who has gone to college. Knowing that
my friend who introduced me to BAMN, everything I’ve known is
locked away in detention center, can only see two people once a
week for 20 minutes, can’t go outside, in a cell, because he was in
protest on campus that I was a part of. Incredibly unequal and
despicable, proud of every student on this campus who has felt terror
of seeing those things and power of coming together. We need more
of true organizing, taking a stand, we’re not going to go away until
you actually do something about this, stand with us, stand with the
students.
iii. Tyler – when fighting against racism and to increase minority
enrollment, free speech went out the window, firs time in November
regents went running into another building and closed it to everyone
including press. Second sent their dogs out, university police, tackled
and arrested us. That’s the free speech. Minority enrollment
increased fall 2015, first time in 10 years.
iv. Shandria – first, we need to be saying to university hate speech is not
free speech. Not only we don’t support it, taking action to shut it
down. Second, there have been raids in Ann Arbor. People are being
held in detention centers even though sanctuary city. Different
expressions of the Trump movement. Need to be fighting against
that, this is our opportunity.
v. Victor – hi, also with BAMN, not sure if you all know what was
done or who these people are. Two different orgs, “Identity Europa”
is one, white supremacist organization. One was “Reasons white
women should not date black men,” sexism and domestic violence as
problem of black men. “Don’t be ashamed to be white,” which you
shouldn’t be if you’re not a racist or fascist. “Be proud that you’re
white and superior to everybody else,” they know who their audience
is, promise you first attacks will come to Muslim people, as the most
open people about being Muslim, and will spread to other people.
After the Holocaust, there was the saying “Never Again,” said for
various genocides, people say never again, not an appeal to the
racists, its us as the left, as the supposed defenders of equality,
should never allow them to get away with this. In Germany before
Hitler already fascist gangs targeting Jews, same thing happening
here, they’ll take bigger and bigger steps. The more Trump has to
say and scapegoating people, the more they’ll feel they can take it to
next level. Especially if administration continues to defend free
speech for fascists.
vi. Shandria – not just posters and chalking’s, earlier last week when we
came up here to table, someone walked up and said “Heil Hitler,
build the wall,” those are steps to physical acts of violence.
vii. Victor- one member, Yvette in bay area, schoolteacher, organized
protest, fascists taped knives to poles with swastikas. Yvette and
others were stabbed and beaten by them. Her school district wants to
fire her now of what she did not during school hours.
1. Chris – motion to extend by one minute; seconded; approved
viii. Victor – Hitler was made chancellor, there were those gangs in
motion. Same thing happening in California. Public leader shutting
down fascists, district going after her just like this administration has
gone against 8 of our members, now Justin in detention. Jose got
arrested outside of Espresso Royale.
b. Josh
i. Hello, my name is josh I’m a junior, active in pro-Israel community.
Speaking on resolution to boycott Israel. Coming at this from a
student perspective, understanding is resolution prosed by
community members, feel like a divide between community
members and how students actually feel, generational shift and
ideological shift. Want to clearly an firmly say resolution shouldn’t
be passed, divide and lack of clarity. Thank you.
c. Blaine
i. Thanks, saw Israel kill 1,200 Palestinians, in 2008/09 all over the
news, knew I had to do something. My heart cried out to stop them.
Hundreds more in 2012, so I demanded boycott everywhere I could.
I saw Israel kill 2,200 more in 2014, demanded boycott everywhere I
could. Hundreds of Ann Arbor students did same things in 2014.
That’s how I feel. What BAMN was talking about, what’s happening
in Israel is the same times 1,000. Fascism is a danger; racist murder
of people is a danger. Israel is doing it. My heart cries out to boycott
them to stop them. Israel understands that kind of language. Boycott,
they know what it means, it means stop killing Palestinians, hope
you got email with resolution in it. If you haven’t come see me I’ll
send it again. Need a student sponsor on this thing; if you feel moved
please let Lakshma and Josh and me know. That way can be fairly
debated in this room. What else can you say when you see Israel
murdering thousands of Palestinians in front of you what else can
you say besides boycott, lets wait, no. You say boycott now before
they can touch the hair on the head of another Palestinian child,
boycott Israel, thank you.
d. Mozhgan
i. You hear everything Blaine said which document what Israel has
done in the past few ears. Who are these Palestinian people, what can
they expect of this life. A regular Palestinian family can earn $500-
$600 a month for 5 plus people, have to pay for health care, housing,
education, food and water, all of that. Imagine having to pay for all
of that. Palestinian people are extremely poor people deprived of a
lot of things, everyday things. Poor, no hope anybody will listen to
them, no light at the end of the tunnel. Live in fear everyday. Here to
bring their voices to you. Education far from their reach, trapped in
village cannot get out Israel will not allow it. Those are the people
I’m talking to you about. Poor, deprived, and sick. Palestinian
woman, what can she expect in life, could die at an Israeli
checkpoint getting to hospital to give birth, a lot of Palestinian
women and their children die that way. Chances of having child with
birth defects is quite high, lives in polluted environments. Imagine
having to care for a child with abnormalities.
1. Teddy – motion to extend time by 1 minute; seconded; not
approved
o. Executive Communications
a. David – hi everyone, know it’s been a long and difficult week, hope taking
time for self care and reflection. Importance of CSG releasing statements
Friday and last night. Everything going on around the country and here. No
doubt week has been difficult for members of our community, fellow
students like us, have been targeted and devalued. Having sat on assembly
last year I know serving on CSG, many don’t see each other for the rest of
the week. Can be hard to understand collective impact. As I said in April,
never doubt that what we do truly matters, does impact fellow students,
promise you they see us, recognize us, hear us, hoping what we do can better
their lives and experiences on campus. That’s why we released those
statements inevitable not everyone will agree, but that’s life, its complicated.
I urge all to constituent to advocate for every student son this campus. Every
student deserves to come here and be a part of welcoming and safe
community. If you ever have questions or concerns with something we say
please approach us, that’s why we’re here. Demographic report going
forward, working with Ayah, chair of diversity and inclusion commission,
determining how bet to go forward and enhance representatives’ nature as
governing body. If you have questions or want to participate, please reach
out to executive committee or Ayah. Mental heath and student wellness
central component of what we hope to do, some have approached with ideas,
2 surveys about classroom climate and resources should be going out next
week, will send reminder to ask friends to submit it, if we have sample size
large enough people will take it seriously. Discussed possibility of
commissioning executive task force. Together with intent to develop and
impose tangible solutions to better address student mental health on campus.
Please approach me or Max.
b. Micah – thank you for leadership on hydration station. Have voter
registration stickers, can take two each.
c. Noah – happy Tuesday. Readership pilot program, a few changes made, will
go into detail when we introduce again. After talking with some members of
assembly and times contact. Sticking with 500 passes but cutting to 24 hours
to up number of uses. Will triple number of uses. 24,000 will be really great.
Commissions. Great to see some at meetings this week. Tania included CSG
calendar, staying on top of it, meeting times are up to date. Please reach out
with questions. Most have had 15-20 people, reports, formalized last year by
Sean Pitt, adjustment in structure but content and goals remain the same.
First reports coming in next couple of weeks.
d. Joe – wanted to praise Seth, Eli, Katy on comms for doing great job, some
initiatives coming, looking forward to it. Thank you.
e. Grant – doing a few town halls, first is October 13th, Thursday, about
affordable housing in Ann Arbor. A few panelists to announce, open
conversation about housing in Ann Arbor.
f. Kohlton- new updated budget, around 400k, questions we’ll tackle in old
business.
i. Omar – formal process for statement release, possible to send to
assembly before posting so not retroactively agreeing or disagreeing,
posting as whole, think it would be good double check more
informed if asked about it? A –(David) great point, absolutely, two
options, one send to everyone to gauge, how many on assembly to
approve,
ii. Motion to extend by 2 minutes; seconded; approved
iii. David – can also sign just from exec or president/vice president, can
discuss it, thank you
iv. Omar – just to let people know if people have concerns
v. Andy – echo Omar’s point, maybe just 4 hours, know you want to
rush but would have liked to read, happen to agree with both but our
names on there.
p. Report of the Speaker
a. Tania – thanks for coming to the Union, glad you all made it. Submit
committee/commission attendance for this week. Commissions now meeting,
encourage you to check them out, meet freshmen from mass meetings. Noah
sent something from grace about farmers market, if you volunteer will count
for attendance. If you missed headshots will make up next week. Would like
to get them all same so they look uniform. Resignation from Rackham, got
backpack tags. Congratulations to all our new athletes. Come up at the end if
you haven’t gotten yours yet.
b. Joe – thanks for filling out attendance form.
q. Representative Reports
r. Committee Reports
a. Rules Committee (Report Attached)
i. Jared – hi everyone. Did some minor revisions to the resolutions
regarding ethics committee and convention. Didn’t do much else;
Ramon was B plus in comedy.
ii. Ramon – we opened, it was a rough night.
b. Finance Committee (Report Attached)
i. Max – more attendance than just Andy this week, talked about
Noah’s resolution for the readership program, idea of changing to 24
hours, also talked about 006, now that’s redone so we’ll discuss at
next meeting, not meeting tomorrow look out for an email about next
meeting.
c. Communications Committee (Report Attached)
i. Katy – hi everyone, reverse shoutout to Joe Shea for being great.
Metrics, reached a lot of people, planning CSG Shabbat, totally paid
for, November 11th at my house, don’t have to be Jewish, everyone
welcome. Tomorrow meeting basement of espresso south u.
d. Resolutions Committee (Report Attached)
i. Lucky – lot of people, other committees get on our level, thanks
guys.
e. Executive Nominations Committee
i. Andrew – hey guys, busy Friday, upcoming week have one on the
calendar, will throw it on the calendar, one more going forward.
f. Ethics Committee
i. Andy – as many people as Max, Jared’s stuff looked at it, some
clerical changes, working on best practices document, met with tom
from last year.
s. New Business
t. Old Business
a. A.R. 6-003: A Resolution to Amend the Operating Procedures Regarding the
Ethics Committee
i. Joe – POI upload word doc?
ii. Second reads
1. Jared – main change was section 13, remove action of
absences, loophole of getting people kicked out, combined
voting and debate into parliamentary privileges. Other
change wording in first section.
a. Abigail – 6 absences changed? A – separate rule, to
kick someone out have to do removal process which
is voting 2/3 majority
2. Ramon – ethics can begin impeachment, leaving that formal
procedure in and removing absences, want to make sure
people still have impeachment process
iii. Proposed amendments
1. Andy – wording on item 12, not 100% sure, didn’t find it to
be clear. 30 day time limit, not clear on what starts the time
limit, is it 3 days plus next meeting or must be presented
before end of 30 days. A – submit instead of present, so
submit by then and then next meeting.
2. Whit – before last meeting of assembly
a. Ramon – I think 30 day limit says end of semester if
we run out of days – last meeting of assembly of that
term
b. Rachel – number 11…
c. Friendly
3. Whit – “nature of business, investigate meetings closed” add
word investigative
a. Andy – the reason we may want to do this is
otherwise cant invite other people to open meetings?
“Investigative” want regular meetings open to
everybody.
b. Friendly
iv. Third reads
v. Vote
1. 33 in favor; 0 opposed; 2 abstaining
2. Resolution passes
b. A.R. 6-004: A Resolution to Amend the Operating Procedures Regarding the
Select Committee On Oversight
i. Second reads
1. Jared – no changes to this, basically fixing similar issues,
clarifications and small changes, line up with similar
operating standards. Talk of meeting, thought should be
independent discussion.
ii. Proposed reads
iii. Third reads
1. Husam POI suspend rules A – yes but have to vote twice for
that
iv. Vote
1. 31 in favor; 0 opposed; 3 abstaining
2. Resolution passes
c. A.R. 6-005: A Resolution to Add Official Members to the Communications
Committee
i. Second reads
1. Katy –hey everyone, same resolution, went to rules before so
they’re good with it, just adding some members to the
committee.
a. Chris – in text it says at least 3 members at large A –
don’t know what committee will take on, originally
3-5 but want to open up to possibility of having
more, would go through chair, vice chair, assembly.
ii. Proposed amendments
iii. Third reads
iv. Vote
1. 33 in favor; 0 opposed; 1 abstaining
2. Resolution passes
d. A.R. 6-007: A Resolution to Pilot a College Readership Program
i. Second reads
1. Noah – excited to present pilot for the program, spoke with
several of you and made changes to make as cost-efficient
and best potential for success as possible, properly gauging
student interest. Will triple number of uses available for all
students to use, expanded resolved clause line 15 to explain
way program works in brief and clear way. Ran language by
finance, will be sending out marketing materials. Table in
the Ugli to advertise. Once that’s finalized will run by
speaker.
a. Seth – from executive or legislative discretionary? A
– both, assembly technically cannot bind executives
towards money, in whereas clause “have agreed”
and then remaining from legislative discretionary.
Purpose is we want you to be passionate about and
get your peers to use.
b. Josh – evidence student body interested in reading
NYTimes? A – haven’t put out survey to entire
student body, anecdotally speaking members who
have mentioned to friends have gotten positive
response, last week got assignment encouraged to g
to nytimes to read more. That’s why it’s a pilot
program, seeing what interest level is so we can
decide what to do going forward.
i. Omar – don’t know if necessarily purposeful
but would it be good to send out survey with
subscription most interested in, NYTimes,
Wall Street Journal, then get readership
licenses on those? A – definitely something
we can do going forward, that’s why doing
pilot program to get the word out, don’t
think just survey is effective. Did reach out
to other outlets, not ever newspaper but this
was one that responded and ready to work,
going forward would be more than happy to
expand, this is what came to be in time able
to do it.
ii. Rachel – I think we talked about logistics
originally and went to finance, originally
only 8,000 passes, shortening cycle gets 3x
times than 8,000, good idea if you reach out
to classes and professors could demonstrate
where resource is for knowledge and
awareness? A – really helpful, members of
my team/interns what I tasked them with,
not the end of this initiative, meeting with
them tomorrow. Sending out information to
departments and professors who can use
this.
iii. Whit- reasonable to say more clearly how
you’re intending to publicize this? A –
within context of resolution don’t believe so,
going to send materials, in terms of sending
symbolic resolutions that take a stand on
something, emails etc., I think I have a good
marketing plan for this that I will share with
you soon.
ii. Proposed amendments
iii. Third reads
iv. Vote
1. 29 in favor; 5 opposed; 0abstentions
2. Resolution passes
a. No with rights
i. Andy – still don’t understand why spending
money on something effectively free if
people use basic computer skills
e. A.R. 6-008: A Resolution Calling for the Creation of a Constitutional
Convention
i. Second reads
1. Joey – hi everyone just wanted to clarify some things. Report
to assembly, report is purely informational, not confirmation,
would be looking to hear your voice and opinions. Did check
timeline 25 days prior to election for amendments, built in,
week’s time with current date of October 15th.
a. Andy – don’t understand why needs to be November
instead of march, you said goal is to change minor
errors and pronouns, agree with but not pressing
issue, after vote no control, if something random we
don’t like shows up, don’t see a reason for this rush
yet we’re rushing. What is the rush? A – reason why
are trying to meet November deadline so can go into
winter term this year, one thing we’d like to discuss
is first year ex officio members on assembly. Cant
be seated until amendment is made, would like to
discuss but would be tricky but they wouldn’t be
seated until October of next year. You mentioned
out of hands of assembly, would push back on that,
for amendment to be provided 2/3 of convention
would need to approve, would die there.
b. Chris POI ex-officio representation is for student
organizations would it require…would they be
considered ex officio? Representative representing
transfer or first year isn’t student organization? A –
understandable question, currently definition is what
you said, is a bit of a stretch to claim student
organization. Purpose of amendment would be to
create however many seats reasonable to represent
diverse student population, would be ex officio
appointed through method determined in
convention, would be shifting away to allowing
these seats to not be student orgs.
c. Rachel – without committee, how amendments made
without? Alternative? A – more line item
amendments to the constitution would have to pose
question to student body. Purpose of convention, one
main reason is that with grammatical errors,
presenting document in its entirety rather than
presenting line by line. (Jared) also several legal
loopholes, cant impeach chief justice, appointed to
multiple positions, UEC and assembly
confirmations, who can be impeached. Those would
each be 6 amendments right there to fix legal
loopholes, would merge into one group. (Joey)
should we go for grandiose amendment that
assembly finds to be problematic, we are going to try
to split question in areas that would be pertinent.
d. Whit – 6th resolved clause, reason isn’t more
detailed. A – haven’t discussed, one thing we came
up with convention would establish own operating
procedures, town hall, etc. one goal is want to garner
as much input as possible.
i. Laying out intention? A – essentially yes
ii. 8th resolved, work to inform assembly,
specific intention? A – not for purpose of
yes or no, just decision you are entrusting to
membership of convention itself. Coming
for affirmation.
e. Andy – data on November v march election? (Jared)
can get back to you in a few minutes.
f. Seth – what election? A - November election
g. Chris – intention and purpose of convention size
being so small, in resolved says 5? A – membership
exclusive voting membership, personally hella down
for but not a lot of people would be, so voting g
membership can dedicate as much time as possible
before presenting to student boy.
h. Chris – if amendment proposed to assembly, what
does that entail? A – by voting on this, you are
providing convention with suggestion for student
body.
i. Precedent for constitutional convention to
have small number of voting members?
(Jared) not sure how big last one was, acting
off of no precedent. Winter LSA election,
top candidate received 540 votes, spring top
rep had about 1,000 votes. That’s best
comparison can give. No specific university
wide counts.
ii. Joey – would view as friendly if increased
membership to 7-9 members.
i. Andy – how do you address that effectively cutting
out certain schools having representation? A –
(David) in 2010 when constitution convention
commission, radically overhauled to what we have
today. Not representation from every school. Idea is
that we represent entire student body. Would have 3
representatives, all from different schools,
impossible because every school isn’t represented on
this governing body, argument would not hold.
(Jared) have to have compromise between
productiveness, such a large…have to have these
rules of order, becomes more difficult as you grow,
they wanted to have it be more lean committee for
that reason.
j. Seth – how would representatives be chosen? A –
says they have to be elected in manner body
chooses. Would hold election to have 3
representatives from assembly nominated and
elected by assembly to convention and start work
soon after.
i. Seth – would have to happen between fall
election? A – yes, if branch knew task in
front of them I believe can see no world
where not completed on time.
k. Chris – …later says will submit amendment, doesn’t
specific what percentage would have to vote in favor
to ratify amendment. A - 3/5 majority, apologize for
not including it
ii. Proposed amendments
1. Andy – propose waiting for March, just got text that LSA
vote was 3% in November. Happy to vote to do in March,
can’t vote for November. Having vote in March, adding
whereas that thought process is to have highest student
turnout possible which record shows is in March.
a. Unfriendly
b. Seconded
c. Move into voting procedure; objection
i. Debate on amendment
1. Against
a. Noah – discussed at length
with authors. Decision to
bring forth was not made
lightly, made because we
have small things like
grammatical, loopholes,
pronouns, to larger things
like creating ex officio
seats. Reason trying to do
this is for simplicity.
Discussions constrained
sometimes, point is to bring
people in room most
interested in documents,
making changes that will
benefit student body.
Getting demographic report,
zero first year students. 25%
undergraduate student body.
Only way to fix this is to
have this convention. A lot
of changed we want to put
forward, secretive is not the
intention, intention is for
simplicity and efficiency,
important that we do not
change deadline because
though many not make all
changes don’t believe those
at convention will add
things that are not properly
vetted.
2. For
a. Chris – low turnout is
important, pushing to spring
would have more of general
election type feel every 4
years, March have low
turnout and people don’t
take seriously. Agree with
intention I just don’t think
will have desired effect in
November election.
3. Against
a. Husam – been here for 9
years, feel like we have fear
they’ll sneak something in,
understand that fear,
suggested meetings be open,
responded positively to that,
all people we can hold
accountable, thirdly excited
to see what kind of changes
they have, shady things in
MSA elections so excited to
see what they suggest. Can
vote off members or show
displeasure, sure we could
cause discomfort. Excited to
see what they can do, if we
delay it don’t know what
will happen. Just want to get
things done.
4. POI how many speakers spoken? A
– 3
5. For
a. Eli – I think later will be
less rushed process, better
represented committee,
would like to have as many
students look as this as
possible.
6. Against
a. David – POI how much
time? A – 3 minutes
b. David – want to speak
against this amendment,
Andy raised good point
about turnout in fall
elections being low. Want
to say why comparing
apples and oranges. 3
percent only talks about
LSA. Obviously students in
LSA. This amendment
would be eligible to entire
campus body. Importance of
getting stuff in convention
by November. Zero
representation for first year
students on student body.
Other universities do. We
have nothing. They don’t
have a voice in this
assembly. 25% of students
don’t have the ability to
exercise their voice and
have their voice heard. I
understand we have lower
than average voter turnout
in fall, I think that is an
issue structurally we need to
address as an organization. I
think question to ask is how
can we encourage all of our
students to vote in both
elections. Given us new
goal to increase voter
turnout in fall semester. I
know from serving here and
being here very little
marketing and advertising
before fall election. Still
have a month before the
election.
7. For
a. Seth – I do think it’s good
idea, but in favor of
proposed amendment,
important for elections to be
inclusive of everyone, with
that said I think winter more
people vote in, more well
known election. Yes could
and should try to advertise
other election, constitution
shouldn’t be rushed. I think
that moving it to the winter
would be better.
ii. Andy – 3% turnout is real, why would be
want a vote when we know less people will
vote than the spring. Reps its your job to
reach out to freshmen and represent their
interests. Also have other problems this is
my compromise, ill vote for it if we do it in
arch.
d. Vote on amendment
i. Kendall – what is amendment?
ii. Chris – 3rd to last resolved clause, adjusted
to date in spring time. Final resolved, spring
elections.
iii. Teddy – is there a way to compromise so
freshmen can be on assembly?
iv. Amendment passes
iii. Refer to rules committee
f. A.R. 6-009: A Resolution to Approve the CSG Fall 2016 Budget
i. Second reads
1. Kohlton – pretty straightforward with a few edits. As rules
mentioned during first reads, struck minimum mandate,
SOFC now 53.5%, same format from before, integrated final
enrollment numbers, welcome any questions.
a. Husam – summer assembly, zero percent? A –
disbursement are for proposed semester
b. Sam – why does executive have more than
legislative? A – historically more than legislative,
what we’ve done as oppose to last semester
increased both exec and legislative.
ii. Proposed amendments
1. Whit – second whereas, must comply instead of should
comply
a. Friendly
iii. Third reads
iv. Vote
1. 33 in favor
2. Resolution passes unanimously
u. Motions and Other Business
v. Announcements and Matters Arising
a. David – thank you for spirited debate. Opening on student health insurance
committee, if you’re interested let me know, relaxed time commitment,
monthly.
b. Joey – November elections, 16th and 17th, look for more info on how to
publicize. Thank you for spirited debate, look forward to more.
c. Kohlton – SOFC wave 3 due Friday at 3
d. Eli – CSG Shabbat, November 11th, everyone’s invited
e. Josh – national register to vote day
f. Ali – a week from this Friday, my sorority will have fundraise, wing fling,
will try to bring tickets.
g. Seth – 5k or 1 mile run, I’m doing it and so is Tucci
h. Atakin – Patrick has voter registration forms
i. Sophia – worked on designing CSG apparel over the summer. Signup for the
one you want and size, we’ll put the orders through.
j. Joe – get in absences to me, commission attendance form will now be closed
at start of CSG
k. Ramon – rules, Thursday at 6pm, in front, also sending Google hangout.
l. Noah – why 5:59pm last week? A – why not
m. Tania – keep distractions to a minimum, clean up after yourselves, backpack
tags.
n. Micah – stickers, you can have them
w. Closing Roll Call
x. Adjournment -10:28pm