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CONVENTIONAL MACHINING AS A SPECIAL PROCESS FEBRUARY 2018 UNCONFIRMED UNCONFIRMED MINUTES FEBRUARY 20-21, 2018 MADRID, SPAIN These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency. TUESDAY, 20-FEB-18 to WEDNESDAY, 21-FEB-2018 1.0 OPENING COMMENTS 1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check The Conventional Machining as a Special Process (CMSP) Task Group (TG) was called to order by Chairperson Chuck Beargie at 09:00 a.m., 20-Feb- 2018. It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting. A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance: Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME * Chuck Beargie UTC Aerospace (Goodrich) Chairperson Eric Chuang Honeywell Aerospace David Day GE Aviation * Philippe Durand Airbus Helicopters * David Gil Alipi Honeywell Aerospace Vice Chairperson * Ulf Hampel MTU Aero Engines AG Joakim Idetjarn GKN Aerospace Sweden AB * Lennart Klason GKN Aerospace * Marc-André Lefebvre Héroux Devtek Inc. Charles Parker Honeywell Aerospace * John Pfeiffer GE Aviation * Mickael Ranjic SAFRAN Group Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME * Richard Haberbosch Aerotech Peissenberg GmbH & Co KG Petr Sramek GE Aviation Czech * Yasemin Seref Cizioglu TEI-TUSAS Engine Ind.

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CONVENTIONAL MACHINING AS A SPECIAL PROCESSFEBRUARY 2018

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UNCONFIRMED MINUTESFEBRUARY 20-21, 2018

MADRID, SPAIN

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

TUESDAY, 20-FEB-18 to WEDNESDAY, 21-FEB-2018

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Conventional Machining as a Special Process (CMSP) Task Group (TG) was called to order by Chairperson Chuck Beargie at 09:00 a.m., 20-Feb-2018.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME* Chuck Beargie UTC Aerospace (Goodrich) Chairperson

Eric Chuang Honeywell AerospaceDavid Day GE Aviation

* Philippe Durand Airbus Helicopters* David Gil Alipi Honeywell Aerospace Vice Chairperson * Ulf Hampel MTU Aero Engines AG

Joakim Idetjarn GKN Aerospace Sweden AB* Lennart Klason GKN Aerospace* Marc-André Lefebvre Héroux Devtek Inc.

Charles Parker Honeywell Aerospace* John Pfeiffer GE Aviation* Mickael Ranjic SAFRAN Group

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME* Richard Haberbosch Aerotech Peissenberg GmbH & Co KG

Petr Sramek GE Aviation Czech* Yasemin Seref Cizioglu TEI-TUSAS Engine Ind.

PRI Staff Present

Mike GrahamAndy Statham

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1.2 Reviewed safety information – CLOSED

Reviewed

1.3 Reviewed Code of Ethics (Ref: Attendees’ Guide) and Meeting Conduct – CLOSED

Reviewed

1.4 Antitrust Video was presented – CLOSED

Reviewed

1.5 Name Badges – CLOSED

Reviewed – all satisfactory

1.6 The Agenda for the week was reviewed

2.0 REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS & STAFF REPORT (GENERAL)– CLOSED

Andy Statham’s delegation concurrence is 100%, with 98.6% reviewed by a minimum of 3 Voting Members.

The Task Group Cycle metric is green, with both average and maximum cycles well below the metrics for the program at large.

3.0 CLOSED NEW BUSINESS AND SUBSCRIBER CLARIFICATIONS – CLOSED

Three NCR’s in three audits were discussed. The discussion centred around the ‘grading’ of the NCR and whether they had been classified correctly. It was agreed that NCR #1 was to be added to the Auditor training that is scheduled for June 2018 in London. No further action was required for audits

Action item: SE to add NCR #1 from audit 179577 for discussion during Auditor training in London and Pittsburgh. Should this have been a Major or Minor NCR? 01-MAR-2018

The verbiage for the CMSP Task Group on s-frm-16 “Add scope audit’ was discussed. The current form states: ADD SCOPE AUDITS – see Staff Engineer for grading. This is not ideal for scheduling audits. It was agreed to replace “ask Staff Engineer” by a grading of 1 day for the AC 7126 base checklist and 1 method (slash-sheet), and one further day for every additional method (slash-sheet)

Action item: SE to amend the s-frm-16 for CMSP to reflect the agreed change. (DUE DATE 31-Mar-2018)

Review of Appendix A by Subscribing members.

Staff Engineer mentioned a timely reminder that some of the Subscribing members tabs on Appendix A were a little out of date.

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Staff Engineer as an Auditor:

The Staff Engineer brought forward proposals for online video and webex training to the Task Group to enable the Staff Engineer to gain Auditor status for CMSP; the webex training will be presented by Subscribing members and online training will centre around Tooling and Machine Coolant. The Task Group agreed to the proposals, however currently there are no suitable Training audits available; current audits are either ITAR restricted or not cost effective to attend. Staff Engineer will review upcoming scheduled audits to fix an itinerary for later in 2018 with the goal to become an approved auditor in 2018.

Merit Change Impact Assessment.

Staff Engineer shared a presentation from NMC regarding Merit Change Impact Assessment. This subject was further discussed at the Planning and Operations meeting.

4.0 OP 1117 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY– CLOSED

The Task Group reviewed Auditor Observation plan for 2018. Chuck and John proposed dates to Observe a selection of Auditors. It was noted that the CMSP Task Group will need to observe any new auditors for CMSP as soon as possible, and other observations were encouraged.

ACTION ITEM: Andy Statham will update the plan and post into eAuditNet.com. (Due Date: 16-Mar-2018)

Auditor training London June 2018.

Details regarding the Auditor training for London in June 2018 were finalised. The proposed agenda is:

Opening Comments / Introductions / Routing of the Attendance List Chuck Beargie

UTAS Presentation Chuck Beargie

Honeywell Presentation David Gil

SAFRAN Presentation Mickael Rancic

GEAE Presentation John Pfeiffer

CMSP round table - GROUP DISCUSSIONMajor/minor discussionFeedback for new checklistsExpectations for Paper/Virtual Audits

CMSP Auditors & Task Group

The Task Group reviewed the auditor schedule and volunteered to perform oversight audits. Several auditors do not have many audits currently in the schedule, so the schedule will be re-visited prior to the June 2018 Nadcap meeting.

ACTION ITEM: Andy Statham will add a review/update of the oversight audit schedule to the Agenda for the February 2018 Nadcap Meeting. (Due Date: 21-Mar-2017)

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1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN MEETING, TUESDAY 20-FEB-2018 (PM)

1.1 Call to order/quorum check –

The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Chuck Beargie at 02:00 p.m. A quorum was present.

1.2 Safety information

1.3 Review Code of Ethics and Meeting Conduct

1.4 Present Antitrust Video

1.5 Review previous minutes

Motion made by Chuck Beargie and seconded by Ulf Hampell to approve the draft minutes from the Pittsburgh 2018 Task Group Nadcap Meeting. Motion passed.

5.0 CLOSED MEETING DEBRIEF– OPEN

Chuck Beargie briefed the Open meeting on the salient points of the Closed meeting. No discussion ensued.

6.0 REVIEW MEMBERSHIP STATUS

David Gil (Honeywell) will assume the position and responsibility of CMSP Chair at Pittsburgh 2018 meeting.

Due to the previous GEA Voting Member leaving for a new role, John Pfeiffer (GEA) has resumed as Voting Member from Alternate.

Eric Chuang was introduced to the Task Group by David Gil Alipi; in the fullness of time it is planned that Eric will be the Honeywell alternate voting member. Eric is to be added to the CMSP Subscribers distribution list for conference calls and meetings.

Although Phillipe Durand (Airbus Helicopters) and Ulf Hampel (MTU Aero) did not currently meet the requirements of PD 1100, the Chair deemed that Phillipe and Ulf’s voting status could remain as intact due to their continued active involvement with the Task Group.

The decision was made by the Chair to remove Sean Carvalho (LHM Tech) as TG Voting Member; it is understood that unfortunately Sean is no longer actively involved with the programme.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff will update the “Compliance with Voting Requirements” spreadsheet to reflect changes (Due Date: 01-Apr-2018)

ACTION ITEM: Andy Statham to forward the CMSP Task Group webex call invitation and details to Eric Chuang (Due Date: 31-Mar-2018)

7.0 STAFF REPORT– OPEN

Staff Engineer Andy Statham reviewed Task Group and Staff Engineer metrics. Recent Nadcap Procedural changes were also reviewed. There were no comments.

8.0 PAPER VERSUS ACTUAL COMPLIANCE JOBS

After the discussions with the Auditors at the Pittsburgh meeting, Paper versus actual compliance jobs were discussed again by the Task Group. The consensus was that the Task Group agreed with the manner with which the Auditors were executing this aspect of the checklist.

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9.0 OPEN NEW BUSINESS– OPEN

The following items were covered during Open new business:

The NMC presentation on Equitable Contribution was shown and discussed. This presentation was to inform the Task Groups that the NMC were considering implementing tracking metrics to review Subscribing members contributions, and which metrics they would be recording.

Items that require Calibration were discussed. Refer to item 11.0

10.0 CMSP FAILURE THRESHOLD

Staff Engineer presented the current Task Group Failure Criteria for annual review. The Task Group discussed how the audits that have gone to Failure were handled. The general feeling was that the system appeared to be working in a manner that was considered satisfactory to the CMSP group, and that the current levels remain appropriate.

Motion made by David Gil and seconded by Lennart Klason to maintain the failure criteria at the current levels. Motion Passed.

11.0 REVIEW PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE HANDBOOK, CHECKLISTS, AND CMSP APPENDIX A– OPEN

Items that require Calibration were discussed. Task Group reviewed and revised a draft AC7126 Base checklist to include CAG (Compliance Assessment Guidance) in question 9.1.1 to identify which items may require Calibration.

Additional checklist questions for Quality Systems flowed down by the NMC that were recorded on the Document Change Spreadsheet (DCS) were added to the AC 7126 draft by the Staff Engineer.

AC7126 Base items 7.1.6 and 8.1.4 were re-worded per Auditor recommendation, changes to be included to the AC7126 Base Rev D Draft.

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN MEETING, WEDNESDAY 25-OCT-2017

12.0 MEETING REPORTS

Richard Haberbosch gave a comprehensive and informative report out on the previous evenings SSC meeting.

Chuck Beargie gave a report on the Planning and Operations meeting, and presented the agenda for the NMC meeting.

13.0 PLAN NEXT MEETING

An agenda for the June 2018 Nadcap Meeting in London, England was drafted. The meeting will be 2 days (Tuesday and Wednesday) with Tuesday morning being a Closed session. Auditor training in London was also discussed (refer to item 4.0). This will be on Monday immediately prior to the meeting.

Telecons (Open meetings):

Monday 26-Mar-2018 (10:00 Eastern US time) Monday 19-Apr-2018 (10:00 Eastern US time) Monday 14-May-2018 (10:00 Eastern US time)

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14.0 REVIEW RAIL AND PARKING LOT

The Task Group reviewed and updated the RAIL, DCS, and Parking Lot.

15.0 REVIEW NEW ACTION ITEMS

The Task Group reviewed the new Action Items enclosed in these Minutes.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff will add Action Items from these Minutes to the RAIL. (Due Date: 30-Mar-2018)

A motion made by David Gil and seconded by Ulf Hampel to adjourn the meeting passed.

ADJOURNMENT – 21-FEB-2018 – Meeting was adjourned at 4:45 p.m.

Minutes Prepared by: David Gil Alipi – CMSP Secretary - [email protected]

***** For PRI Staff use only: ******

Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)

YES* ☐ NO ☒

*If yes, the following information is required:Documents requiring revision: Who is responsible: Due date:s-frm-16 for CMSP Staff Engineer 31-Mar-2018