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CASETYPE: Assist to Jefferson CountyDATETYPED: 041'20199Investigator Kevin Heaton

On 04120199 at approximately 1335 hrs., this Investigator and InvestigatorJamesRasmussen responded to LittletonPorter Hospital, located at 1700 S. Broadway, tointerview shooting victims from Columbine HighSchool in Jefferson County.

This Investigatorand Investigator Rasmussen firstinterviewed a victim identified as:

DOYLE, JENNIFERDOB- 01119/82

DOYLEadvised that after passing period for FirstLunch, she was located in the library.DOYLE heard gunshotsand bombsgoingoff. DOYLE stated she was hiding under adesk in the library when two suspectsentered

The suspectswere described as:

White males, 5'7-5'8, skinny buildWearingblackboots. pants, and trench-coats

The suspects were randomly shootingat victims and at one timetold everyone to standup.

One of the suspects said he was waiting to do this for a long time.

The suspectasked the second suspect, "You knowwhat else I've been waiting to do?"

The second suspect said,"Yeah, stab someone."

DOYLEsaid there were 30 to 40 people in the library and one victim, who she believeswas killed, was laying on top of her.

DOYLE was able to run out the backdoor ofthe library to safety.

DOYLE sustained injuries to her right hand, to include breaks and fractures, from gunshotwounds.

DOYLEsaid she saw a long gun, but could not describe anyother weapons.

Investigator Rasmussen then interviewed a second victim identified as:

KYLER. ADAM

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KYLER advised that he was running through the cafeteria to escape, when the shootingbegan. That there were chairsflying through the air and something struck him in the backand neck. That he believed he could escape, by hiding in a dark room near the computerroom. KYLER stayedin the dark room until he was ableto leave the building. KYLERsaw one suspectwearing a trench coat, but could not identify the suspect further, nor whatweaponshe carried

Investigator Rasmussen was advised byHospital Staff that KYLER had brunt trauma,injury to Lite back and spinal area. There was no additional information at this time.

Investigator Rasmussen then interviewed a third victim identified as:

JANKOWSKI, JOCYE

JANKOWSKI a teacher at the school provided the following information. JANKOWSKIthat she was in the teachers' lounge, adjacent to the student cafeteria, having lunch Twofellow teacherswere looking out he lounge window to the west

They stated, "What's goingon."

JANKOWSKI lookedout the window and sawtwo bloodied students' bodies, lying onthe grass. JANKOWSKI then began to hear, what she described as, loud explosions andgunshotsalong with screaming to the west of her location. 1ANKOWSKI thought thegunshots and screaming was moving her way. JANKOWSKI, two fellow teachers and twostudents, lockedthemselves in a bathroom They heard a very loud explosion andgunshotsout side the bathroom.

Theythen decided to escapeby going throughthe ceiling and she subsequently fellthrough the ceiling, back into the lounge This is when she injured her knees and back.

Theydecided the best way to survive, was to open the door and try to escape the building.Theydid this and were successful. During her escape, JA."lKOW$KI never saw thesuspects.

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That I~' is • j~nior at ColUlbi" High Seh.ol.

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They lien left tha library IUd m. back.

ThIY uhd mean. if hls ,n. vas J'hn but J"n was g,",That 'hen t'll me back Ih'l pdled the chair .. I frOI the labie.

Sh. m lbe black boots and thought ot <is th. poli<l, ~" of t'lsusp.tts then pointed bis g,n at her 'nd ssct four Hlel, She <as strucki' th, right h,nd.

Th,t she liS sitlbg .m her k,m tuck.d " and her head <as in heraras.

Th,t ,h. aought th,t th, cne <ho sh'l ber <as Eric ~arris, Shedisn'! k.o. his ,al' ,ri,r to !hil 'ncid••t but Si' his pi'lur. o' T.V.Sb. s,id she us uttMng Chann.l '. and it liS a. picture on lh. rightfide cf the screen. ~, liS ..,ring blad b'otl 'nd black panls and h' ma dirtl blonde.

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JENNIFER DOYLE, DOB/O! -19-82

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On ;·18·99, at about 0930 hours, I interviewed JenniferDoyle at her residence. Jennifer was In the library at Columbine High

School on 4-20-99when the shootings occurred. 1requestedthat Doyle begin with the beginning of her day and tell me her

activities and observations.

Doylestatedthat she parked her Oar in theJuniorparkinglot. facing Pierce,at about 0720 hours. She went to theTrigonometry

class with Mr. Smith for first period. Secondperiod she was in Science with Mr. Friesen. I asked her about the announcements

made during that period. She stated that she doesn't recall anything unusual from the announcements. Third period was

Language Artswith Ms. Hoffman. Fourthperiodshe wentto Gym withMr, Place, She stated that fourth periodwas out about

ten minutesearly. approximately 1100 hours. Doylestaled she has"A" lunch for fifth period.

Doylestated that no one associated with the"Trench Coat Mafia" are inany of her classes. She stated she was nor familiar \,\ irh

the group prior to the shootings. She had never seen Eric Harris before, She does remember Dylan Klebold because she wen:

to elementary schoolwith him at Governor's Ranch Elementary Bothof them were in the Chips Program, which is a special

programforadvancedstudents. Doylestatedshe hadse~before, in the hallway, but did not knowhun by name

She does recall. being someone who wore a trench coat.

At 1100 hours, Doyle went down to the cafeteria,There she sat at a table which the map I showed her designed as table"E "

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Shesat there with her mend, EricSchmidt, for about five minutes. Shestatedthat fellowstudent, Kelly Burgesser, joined them.

Burgesser has fourth period off. Doyle stated that she saw nothingout of the ordinarywhen she was in the cafeteria.She did

not observe anyone carrying anything heavy into the cafeteria, nor did she see the suspects or anyone associatedwith the

"Trench Coat Mafia."

Shestatedafterabout five minutesin the cafeteria she and Burgesserwent upstairsto use the phonesnear the mainoffice. She

stated that Burgesserwas not feeling well and was makinga call to her parents to have them pick her up. After the phonecall

was made, Doyle went to the librnry, while Burgesserwent back down to the cafeteria. 1asked Doyle what route she took to

the library, She could not remember specifically, but thought that she went down the hallwaybetween the Tech lab and the

language arts room, then west along the south main hall, then north to the library entrance,

When she entered the library, Doyle placed her backpackon a table. She indicatedon the map that I showed her that this was

tablenumberone. At that same table wasstudentMark Kintgen. Iasked Doylewhoelse she saw in the library, Shestatedthat

sittingin a chair next to the window at the libraryentrancewas Val SchmUIT. At the table designated as number 2 on the map

werestudentsLisa Kmetz, LaurenTownsend. and Jeanna Park. At the table marked number 3 on the map were two students.

Blairand Hochhalter.

When Doyle first went into the libraryshe went towards the west end to look for a mend. Whenshe didn't see the mend she

wentback to table number one. I asked Doyle Ifshe madeany observations outsidethe west windows. She stated she did not

go that farand at that rimenothing hadcaught herattention. Whenshe returnedto table one, a female teacher,whose name she

did not know but identifiedas "the one who made the 9·1·1 call", entered the libraryscreaming that someone had a gun. The

teacherwas telling everyone, "Get under the rabies!" After the teacherentered,a male studententered andwas hunched 0'"

Although she did not see bloodon the malestudent,she could tellthathe was hurt. Shestated thenshe took the matterseriously

Doylewas going' to get underneath tableone, but thought that it did not provide enoughcover forher. She thoughtshe was100

exposed. Doyleran 10 the back of the library on the south, She hid underneath the table designatedas number 14 on the map

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I asked her whowas under the table with her, Shestaled Austin Eubanks, Corey Def'ooter, and DannyMauser, Shedescribed

Mauser as a malestudentwith blond hair.

Doyle then began to heargunshots and bombs goingoff. It sounded as if theywerecoming from the hallway in front of the

library entrance, Shedid not see the suspectsenterthe library. Shethought the suspects were in the librarywhenshe heard a

malevoicesay, "Gel out from under the tables!" Doyle said noone moved.

Doyle had the impression that the gunmen left the library at thistime. Shestated she still heardgunshots, burthe shots did not

sound as loud. Shethoughtthe ShOlS wereperhaps coming from thehallway or downstairs. Shestatedthat the gunshots were

continuous.

Doyle statedthat she was under table 14 for about five to ten minutes. She thought the suspects weregone, Thenshe heard

a window shattering, Sheheardthe comment from a malevoice saying something to the effectthat"the library'sgoingto %0 •

Shesaid therewasa panicsound to the male's. voice. At thispointshethought that therewas a bomb in the library and that the

bombwas going to go off.

Doylestatedthere wasa malestudentsittingunderneath the table thatthe map had designed as number II. Shestatedthat the

male lookedcalm.She thoug.~t he was handlingthesituation much betterthanshe was.

Doyle then heard the gunmen being very loud and laughing. Shecould not tell what they're words were, and she could not

distinguish how many voices: were talking. She began to see bullets bouncing off the south wall near her. Shedescribed tt as

"littleball things bouncing off the wall," She glanced up andsawa suspect, all in black,walking between the book casesJUSt

to hereast. I asked herwhich direction the suspect waswalking, Shestated she could not remember.

Shethen hearda malevoice veryclose to her asking, "What's yourname?" The person responded, "JohnSavage," The male

responded, "Oh, we know you, gel out of here." Doyle statedat this pointshe thought perhapsthe policewerein the libraJ'\

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She thought thatwas whysomebody was being letgo. Just then, one of thesuspects pulled a chair out from underneaih table

14where shewasat. Sheglanced up andsawtwosetsof blackboots standing to the east sideof her table. Onew~ne"

to the table, On the east. The other One was a littlefurtheraway to thenortheast. She again thoughrperhaps it was the police

because of the blackboots. She glanced up to where she could see the entirebodies of the two individuals. They were white

males. Shestated shedid not recognize them. Shesaidthattheywere dressed in black.1askedher if the suspects were wearing

masks. She statedtheywere not. She onlyglanced at them, then looked away.

Doyle stated that laterthat evening whilein thehospital, shesawa t.v, news program which identified the twoshooters as Eric

Harris and Dylan Klebold, She stated she knows that the individual standing closest to her table was Dylan Klebold because

he was tallerand bigger than the other male.

Doyle stated that the gunmen, she latercould identify as Kleboid, hada shotgun whichhe was holding with bethof his hands

, asked her if it was a single or double barrel shotgun. She stated she did net know. She stated there was another gun on

Klebold's leftside.She stated"it wasnot a littlegun" and that there wasa piece comingout from the bottomof the gun We

looked at a newspaper whichhad silhouettes of me guns used in theshooting. She pointedout that the gun she was describing

as being on Klebold's left side WIlS the Tech9.

AfterKJebold pulled the chairout, he shot theshotgun underneath their table, 1asked her if it was one shotor morethan one

shot She thinks it was only one shot. Doyle had her righthand resting on Corey DePooter's right shoulderWhen theshotgun

blast occurred. She stated she began screaming. She stated shewas probably screaming for a while becauseat one pomtshe

realized that she was screaming and that she needed to stop. When she stopped screaming she felt a tingling sensation.

described as"pins and needles", in herrighthand. Shecould hearboth malesuspects laughing. She put her head downon tOP

of Cory DePooter's back, Herheadwas facing to the westbecause shedid not want thesuspects to see her. She kepthereves

open, but was trying to play dead. I askedDoyle if she Saw any weapons being held by Eric Harris. She stated she did not.

Doyle locked at her handand saw that sire waswounded. ShetookCorey DePooter's shirt and wrappedher hand in it. Doyle

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slated shecould see that there was a stream of bloodflowing down alongthe left side of DePooter, She statedshe knew thar

he had beenkilled, She heard Def'ooterbreathhis last Therewerenoconversations with Del'ooter. Doyle stated that prior

to a gunmen coming to her table, DePooter hadbeenencouraging herand Eubanks by saying that everything was going to be

all right.

The nextcomment she heard from thesuspects wasone saying, "Youknowwnatelse I've wanted to do?" The ether suspect

replied, "Yeah, stabsomeone." This was when Doyle keptherface tothewestanddid not move. She thought thatifshemoved

she would be stabbed by the suspects.

I asked Doyle to describe herwounds. Shedescribed shotgun pellets, Three pellets enteredher right hand(onecrushed her ring

finger. another one entered herwrist,andanotherone entered theback ofherhand.) Shestated thatthereweretwoexitwounds,

one coming Out in the thumbarea. and onejust belowherpinky finger. Doylehas a metal plate and screws holding her ring

ringer together.

Doyle is unsure if any other shots were firedaftershe was injured. Shestatedthat she feltas if mostof the gunfirehappened

priorto herbeingshot. Doylestatedthat sheand Eubanks laid fora while underneath the table. When Doylefirst thought that

the suspects had left the librarybecauseit became quiet, shesaidsomething to Eubanks. Eubanks responded, "Shhh- and the

two of them did not talk for a while,

At one point Eubankstapped her and said,"We've got to get Out of here," The two of themback out tram under the table

Doyle believes they went towards the south wall and thenran north along the west wall where the windows are. then to the

northwest exit. Doyle remembers seeinga girl sittlOg down underneath the southcomputertableas she was running towards

the exit. She statedthat the girl was injured. Therewereabout 15 students at the exit trying to get out of the library

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ran behind the policecar where two police officers werepositioned. She could not say whethershots were being tiredat that

time. She stated thal the male studentsbegan to takeoff their shirts to use them to helpwith the wounded. It tooka while. but

policecarsbegancoming up to evacuate the students. Shestatedshe believes she was in the third policecar whichcameto get

students. She was taken to a neighborhood southwest of the school. Doyle could not rememberanything further about the

Incident

[ advised Doyle that Mauser had been found underneath table number 9. This surprised her. I told her that the student

underneath table 14 had the last name of Ball. She lookedhis pictureup in the yearbook and stated that she remembers the

studentas havingblondhair. which Ban had. Shedoesnot recall anything that Bait did underneath their table or when he left

the library.

Doyle stated she left a black backpack in the library which containedfive black notebo?ks. The only thing of value in her

backpack was a TI82 calculator, Doylestated she did nOl know her lockernumber, hut she shares a locker with Burgesser

My interviewwith Doyle concluded at about [200 hours,

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REPORTING AGENT: GreenwellTIM: Eubanks, Stephen "AustIn"

IJrFENSE: AOA-J.C.S.D./Homiclde

WITNESS LIST:

CASE NUMBER: 99..()38856DATE OF REPORT: 04-21-99

Agent M. Grsenwe!1

LPD investigations Division

assigned case investigation;

EUBANKS.Stephen "Austin'

(303) 967·1233

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shooting victim: in librarywith victim DePcoterwhen shot; can tD suspects;

PARENTS: Stephen & Joni Eubanks

Dr. Antuna

Adventist Littleton - Porter Hospital

attending physician

Q6SERVATIONIINVESTIGATION:

On Tuesday, 04-20·99. at approx, 1240 hrs., I responded to AdvenJisl UtJieton Hospital to interview victims and

witness to the shooting at Columbine High School. When I arrived at the hospital, I Interviewed several people.

includingStephen "Austin" EUBANKS.

I asked Austin, after being treated for his injuries, what napcened. Austin said he and his best friend, Corey

DePooter,were sitting in the librarywhen theyheard noises whichsoundedlike someonehammeringagainstthe

wall. Austin said another students said it sounded like gun fire. Austin said it sounded as if it was comingfrom

outside, to the north and west of the library, Austin said he feit the library start Shaking and heard several

explosions. About this time. Austin said severalstudents camerunning into the library, o,long With a teacher, and

the teacher was yelling. to get under the tables as therewere people with guns in the buUding.. Austin said he,

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REPORTING AGENT: Greenwell"ICTIM: Eubanks, Stepnen "Austin",FFENSE: AOA-J.C.S.D.1Homicide

CASE NUM8ER: 99.038856DATE OF REPORT: 04-21-99

Corey, a female students identified as Jennifer Doyle, and an unknown freshman student all crawled under the

same table, Autsin said they were about the second from the last table, As they hid under the table, Austin said

he heard "them' come into the room. When they came into the room, Austin said he heard a bomb go off, but it

was not near where he was, Austin said he could hear "tbem"walking around the room randomly shooting under

the tables. When "they" got to the table he was under, Austin said "Dylan" pointed his gun under the table, directly

at Corey, and pulled the trigger, Austin saic1 Dylan continued shooting under the table, but Austin had his head

covered at this time. When Austin looked up, Corey had been shot and was bleeding profusely and Austin said

he knew Corey was dead. Austin said he then heard a male subject, elsewhere in the library, ask Dylan and Eric

what they were doing, Dylan responded, "Killing people!" and told the male subject to get out and he heard

running from the room, Then, Austin said he heard one of the subjects say something about doing something he

has alwaye wanted to do and he took a knife out of a side pocket on his pant leg, Austin believed they were gOing

to go cut someone, Austin said someone said they left and they all got up and ran from the library, outside, Once

outside, Austin said, they were met by officers and told to get behind a police oar as there was someone on tne

of. Austin said he heard someone say there were three of them and he thought he heard thenam~

I asked Austin if he knew the people shooting, Austin said he knows their first names, Dylan and EriC, Austin

described Dylan as tall (6-0210 6-04), eoprcx. 160 Ibs" 17·18 years old, pale white complexion, blonde medium

length hair, unshaven, "goofY looking", wearing black cargo pants, but "",no trench coat today!" I asked Austin

what he meant by "",nc trench coat todayl" Austin said Dylan is always seen in his trench coat, along with Eric

and"

Next, I asked Austin to describe Eric, Austin said Eric is the shorter of the two and is approx. 5-10 to 5-11, shorter

hair in length, thin build. and walks "bow-legged", Austin was not certain what Eric was wearing,

i asked Austin if he knew what. was wearing, Austin said he did not actuallyse.but hear....as

with them and always sees. with Dylan and Eric at school.

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REPORTING AGENT: Greenwell1CT1M: Eubanks, Stephen "Austin"

OFFENSE; AOA..J.C,S.O.itIornicide

CASE NUMBER: 99-038856DATEOF REPORT: 114-27-99

I asked Austin if he saw whateach of themwascarrying, Austin said both hadcombat boots,bccv armor, shot

guns,pipe bombs.and onehada knife on hispant lsq, I asked Austin if he knew whatwasused to shootCorey,

Austin said it was a semi-automatic of some type, but was not certain if it was a rifle or handgun,

Austin was examined by Dr, Antuna and released after being examined, Austin's injuries were to his righthand

(Index fingerand smallfinger), anda two inchgrazing typewound on his left knee. TheInjuries to Austin's index

finger required three stitches. Austin said he received the wound from eithera bulletor fragment while underthe

table, Austin's injurieswere photographed by an Arapahoe County S,O, crime lab.photographer,

No additional information at tills time.

Detective's signature/number/date

•

Sergeant's signature/number/date

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Ref # 99-12067Type ASSTOA

Location 6201 S PIERCE ST

Reported Date 04/20/1999 Time 12,39,32Status RTF

DET106 06/14/1999 OS0599/BOATRIGHT/MQ

Jefferson County Sheriff's Department 99-7625

On 04/29/99, Detect~ve Boatright (10; was assigned lead#DN1880, requesting he contact and interview Austin Eubanks.Within the narrative of the lead, IO was informed Austin Eubankswas in the library when the incident occurred. IO was alsosupplied information from Detective Kreut~er with the Golden PoliceDepartment who advised Austin Eubanks had initially beeninterviewed by Oetective Greenwell with the Lakewood PoliceDepartment as he was being t~eaeed in a hospital emergency room.

On 05/04/99 at approximately 1200 hours, IO met with AustinEubanks and his father, Steve Eubanks, at the Arvada PoliceDepartment. IO would note when setting up the interview, SteveEubanks requested the interview of his son be conducted at theArv~ada Police Department. Upon contact with Austin Eubanks, IOconfirmed he is 17 years of age, DOB: 10/07/81. Austin EubanksreSideSjt && AUSt4U Eubanks indica~ed he is presently a junior atColumb4ne High School. As point of clarification, Austin Eubanks'father, Steve Eubanks, remained for the interview.

IO subsequently requested Austin Eubanks provide an account ofhis activities on 04/20/99, beginning at ~he time he arrived atschool. Austin Eubanks told IO he normally receives a ride toschool from his father as was the case this date. Austin Eubanksstated he believed his father dropped him off at school atapproximately 0730 hours. Austin Eubanks indicated his father lethim off ~n the northeast faculty parking lot and he sUbse~~ently

utilized the ma~n east entrance to enter the school. AustinEubanks told IO based on his recollection of that date heimmediately went to hlS first period class. Pursuant toquestioning, Austin Eubanks stated he did not recall seeing anyunusual activity when he arrived at school.

Austin EUbanks indicated he went to his 1st period class whichhe identified as '~World Lit. H Austin Eubanks stated his 1st periodclass begins at approx~mately 0730 hours and concludes atapproximately 0820 hours. Austin Eubanks identified his World Litinstructor as llMr. Webb. ,. According to Austin Eubanks, his "worldi.:..t" class is located in the 'least center section near the front. ofthe school'! (referring to the upper level; .

Austin Eubanks reported he then attended his 2nd period classwhich started at approximately 0825 hours and concluded atapproximately 0920 hours. Austin Eubanks identified his 2nd periodclass as "World of WorkI' whi ch is taught by "Ms. Inman, 11 Accordingto Austin Eubanks. his 2nd period class was taught by a substituteon 04/20/99. Austin Eubanks did not recall the name of thesubstitute teacher. Austir'.. Eubanks st.ated his "world of Work'i islcca:.ed on the main level of the school "towards the northeast."Austin Eubanks further referenced that classroom as the I!clothing

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Austin Eubanks reported he then attended his 3rd period classwhich started at approximately 0925 hours and concluded atapproximately 1015 hours. Austin Eubanks identified his 3rd periodclass as "Chemd a t.z-y" which is taught by "Mr. Friesen." AustinEubanks stated his "Chemistry" class is located on the main levelof the school in the "Science area."

In respect to his 4th period class, Austin Eubanks stated itbegan at approximately 1020 hours and concluded at approximately1110 hours. Austin Eubanks identified his 4th period class as"wood shop" which is taught by "MJ;' , Asleson. II Austin Eubanksindicated his wood shop class is located on the main level of theschool in the far northeast section of the building

Austin eubanks reported after his 4th period class ended, hethen met with his girlfriend, Andrea Banister, somewhere in thenorth hallway, Austin Eubanks pointed out he has "A Lu."1ch, II thushe was not being rushed in terms of getting to 5th period, AustinEubanks indicated it was hi$ in~antiQn to go to the library thatdate adding he frequently met his friends at that location during"A Lunch. II

According to Austin Eubanks; after speaking ~ith hisgirlfriend, he then walked directly to the library by himself,Austin Eubanks recalled arriVing at the library Ha couple ofminu'C.es after the bell" {referring to the bell which rings at 1~15

hours signifying the start of Sth period). Pursuant toquestioning, Austin Eubanks stated at the time he arrived at thelibra~f he was in possession of a blue backpack manufactured by"Abercrombie and Fitch." Austin Eubanks indicated he proceededwest through the liorary and located several of his friends whowere already present. Auscin Eubanks identified those friends whowere present as Corey DePooter (!tbese friendll)l Makai Hall, and Danendj, Steepleton. IO verified with Austin Eubanks all theforenamed were present when he arrived at the library, Accordingto Austin Eubanks, those individuals were seated in the far westerection of t.he libra:::"! towards the "back. ,!

ro subsequently provided Austin Eubanks with two diagrams.The first diagram depicted the main level of the school while thesecond diagram depicted the !ibrarj and the position of cableswichin that room. IO next asked Austin Eubanks to diagram the pathhe traveled when walking to the librarf_ Austin Eubanks compliedwlch ro's request. IO then asked Austin Eubanks to identify thetable he was seated after he arrived at the library. AustinEubanks immediately pointed to what has been identified as table~15. Austin Eubanks was then asked to identify the locacion ofeach individual who was seated at that table using their initials.Austin EubankS complied with lOis requesc. 10 would note AustinEubanks placed himself on the northeast corner while Corey DePooter

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was on the southeast corner of the table. In respect to DanSteepleton, Austin Eubanks placed that individual en the southwestcorner of the table while Makai Hall was placed on the northwestcorner of the table. Austin EUbanks pointed out he knew PatIreland was also located at table #15, however, felt the forenamedwas net present when he ar~ived. Austin Eubaa~s stated it was hisrecollection that Pat Ireland arrived in the library aroun4 thetime the incident began. Austin Eubanks stated he rememberedseeing Pat Ireland up towards the front of the library possibly atthe point patricia Nielson entered. 10 clarified with AustinEubanks he was relatively certain Pat Ireland was not present attable #15 when he arrived and it was his recollection the forenamedentered the library at sOme poinc later,

When asked what he recalled occurring next, Austin Eubankssta~ed everyone at his table had begun to do homework or study.Austin Eubanks stated at approximately 1125 hours he began to hearwhat he first thought was "hammering." Austin Eubanks described itas a "d.Lat.ant" sound, Austin Eubanks stated after first hearingthe sound he recalled Corey DePooter commenting he thought theywere "gunshots." Austin Eubanks indicated aft.er Corey Depootermade that comment he too believed the sounds he was hearing weregunshots.

Austin Eubanks stated after hearing what he now believed wasvseven« rapid gunshots there was a pause followed by "a couplemore" (referring to additional gunshots). Austin Eubanks clarifiedit was during the breaks between gunshots that he recalled CoreyDepooter making reference to his certainty what they were hearingwere gunshots. Austin Eubanks indicated by the time he heard thesecond series of shots he too waa relatively certain they weregunshots.

Austin Eubanks stated he next observed Patricia Nielson enterthe library. Austin Eubanks stated Patricia Nielson was runningand appeared lIscared and frantic," Austin Eubanks stated hespecifically recalled looking at his watch at the time PatriciaNielson entered the library and indicated the. time '....as "1126 H

(referring to A.M.}. Austin Eubanks stated at the point PatriciaNielson entered the library he recalled her yelling, "tihere's Ms.Keating, where's Ms Keating,1!

Austin Eubanks indicated he did not believe patricia Nielsonwas able to contact Ms. Keating but did remember the forenamedconc~nuing to move west through the library and eventually wentbehind the main counter, Austin Eubanks told IO as PatriciaNielson went behind the m~in counter he recalled hearing theforenamed state, I!,!,hat guy has a gun.l! A.u.stin Eubanks told IO itwas at that point he observed Brian Anderson enter the library fromthe east entrance. Aus~in Eubanks told 10 it appeared as thoughErian Anderson was fallowing Patricia Nielson into the libraryAusti~ Eubanks stated he did not recall Brian Anderson making any

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statements: but remembered the: forenamed had "b.Lood on his shirt."Austin Eubanks was uncertain as to where Br~an Anderson went afterentering tne li~rary, Austin Eubanks indicated he was distractedat that point} thus did not make any additional observationsconcerning Brian Anderson.

When asked what distracted him from Brian Anderson, AustinEubanks indicated it was at that point Patricia Nielson beganyelling, "Everyone get under the table, get under the table,l1Austin Eubanks pointed out he believed Patricia Nielson was on thephone at the time she made ene above ecacemerrc phoning 11911. It

~ustin Eubanks went onto indicate it was during that time henoticed numerous people in the library "standing around." AustinEubanks indicated he could noe be specitic in terms of who he saws~anding around but believed the reason Patricia Nielson made ~e

above statements was becauae she had made a similar observation.

According to ~ustin EUhanks, both he along with corey Depootergrabbed their backpacks and moved quickly to the south end of thelibrary, Austin Eubanks stated he along with Corey Depooter thenwalked behind the book shelves (to tbe south of the library) andthen began to proceed north through the center section of ~he

library. Austin Eubanks stated after only taking 1!a few steps"both he and Corey Depooter positioned themselves underneath table#14. Austin EUbanks then diagramed the path taken by he and CoreyDepooter prior arriving at table #14. PUrSuane to questioning,Austin Eubanks stated he was not certain why he and corey Depootermoved tables but was certain there had not been much of anydiscussion concerning that point. Austin Eubanks stated afterreflecting on the incident he had no explanacion for why both heand Corey Depooter took their backpacks with them when they movedtables. Austin Eubar~5 described Corey Depoaterls backpack asbeing red in color. As the line of qJestioning continued, AustinEubanks was unable to prOVide any additional information concerningWhy he and Corey Depooter repositioned themselves at table #14.

When asked to describe who was present when he arrived attable #14, Austin Eubanks stated in addition to himself and CoreyDepooter there was a blond haired male student (later identified asPeter Ball) located to the north end of the table {facing south)Austin Eubanks stated he also believed there was a female presentat that time identified as Jennifer Ooyle, According to AustinEubanks, Jennifer Doyle was located at the far south end of thetable on her knees facing in a northeasterly direction. AustineUbanks next indicated he and Corey Depooter were located inbetween Peter Ball and Jennifer Doyle, Austin Eubanks describedhimself as being in a crouched position, primarily facing anortheasterly direction (to the north of Corey DePooter). Inresp*ct to Corey Depooter, Austin Eubanks stated the forenamed waslying on his stomach with his legs "sticking out H (in asouthwesterly direction). IO cla~ified with Austin Eubanks CoreyDepooter's head would have been on the east side of the table ~~d

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he too would have been facing something of a northeasterlydirection, IO sUbsequently had Austin Eubanks diagram everyone'sposition as it related to the people located under table #l4.

Austin Eubanks stated after positioning himself under thetable he began hearing "lots of gunshots and explosions,rt AustinEubanks further clarified he believes some of the l'gunshots" wereactually « ehotgun" rounds belng fired. Austin Eubanks stated hebelieved he could tell the difference between a gunshot, shotgunblasts and an explosion. Austin Eubanks clarified at the time hewas hearing the lIexplosions" the "floor shook." Austin Eubanksclarified he did not believe the suspects had entered the librarywhen he made these initial observations. Austin Eubanks could natrecall the number of gunshots/shotgun blasts or explosions he heardinitially.

Austin Eubanks went onto explain during the same time frame helooked up towards the east doors {entrance} of the library at whichtime he made brief eye contact with Patricia Nielson (locatedbehind the main counter of the library). Austin Eubanks statedPa.tricia Nielson then again ye i i ec . "Get down. H Austin Eubanksstated he believed Patricia Nielson was speaking to himspecifically when making that statement. When asked if he hact comeout from underneath the table, Austin Eubanks responded in thenegative. Austin Subanks stated he belie~ed he had simply stuckhis head out from underneath the table at the t~ma he had made eyecontact with pacricia Nielson.

Austin Eubanks seated it was a short time later the suspectsentered the library. Pursuant to questioning, Austin Eubanksestimated it was approximately five minutes from the time heidentified the noises he was initially hearing as gunshots to thepoint the suspects entered the library. Austin Eubanks stated heinitially only saw one of the suspects enter the library, Whenasked to describe that suspect, Austin Eubanks stated he knew himby the first name of n:Dylan,;I Austin Eubanks indicated hisknowledge of that person's first name came from prior contacts atschool. Austin Eubanks clarified be did not associate with eithersuspect ~ut simply knew them from seeing them at school. Whena:sked to describe the person he referred to as "Dylan," AustinEubanks clarified he initially saw that individual when he wassc.anding up Ilin fronc of the counter,a IO clarified wit.h Au~:;.in

Eubanks he was referring to the main counter where he had initiallyseen Patricia Nielson hiding behind. IO further clarified when heinitially saw the person referred to as "Dylan" that in.dividual was:in becween the COw~ter and the reference ~esk towards the centersection of the library.

Austin Eubanks described <1Dylan" as a white male in his lateteens wi1:h "longer light brown hair" Austin Eubanks stated"Dylan" was wearing a "black trench coat" with "black combat pants"and "boo'Cs," Austin Eubanks clarified it appeared as though all of

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the clothing worn by "DyLan" was black in calor. When asked if theforenamed was in possession of a weapon, Austin Eubanks respondedin the affirmative. Auscin Eubanks told TO the person he referredto as llDylan" was carrying a I!Tec-9 in his left hand. 11 AuscinEubanks went onto describe that weapon as black ~n color with the"rmazzLe perforated. II .l\ustin Eubanks pointed out other individualshad indicated HOylan ll wa.s wearing a hat, however, he did not recallseeing one worn by that suspect. Austin Eubanks went onto statethe other suspect in the company of "Oylan l1 was IIEric. it AustinEUbanks stated he did not actually see Eric until later during thisincident but knew Dylan was with someone else when he in~tially

entered the library. IO clarified with Austin EUbanks he waspositive as to his: identification of "DyLan" and knew the forenamedwas not alone when he entered the library. Austin Eubanks statedhe based that belief on the fact there was conversation betweenDylan and another individual. Austin Eubanks reiteraced Lt was notuntil later in the incident when he actually saw the other personand positively identified that individual as "Eric.1! 10 told.a.ustin Eubanks he would address issues with "Eric ll late.X' in thisinterview.

Austin Eubanks was next asked to describe what occurred whenhe first observed Dylan Klebold towards the cenCer of the librarybetween the main counter and the reference desk. Austin Eubanksindicated Dylan Klebold was moving in a westerly direction and atthe point he initially observed him the forenamed was tellingevez-yone to "stand up. II Austin Eubanks specifically recalledhearins Dylan KleDold yelling, llGet up.lI Austin Eubanks statedDylan Klebold may have made the above re~~ests several times as hemoved in a westerly direction through the library.

Austin Eubanks stated he then heard gunshots and shotgunblasts coming from the west side of the library. Austin Eubanksalso heard one of the: suspects make the statement, "We're gennablow up the library. tl Austin Eubanks tben recalled the fire alarmbeing activated in the library. Austin Eubanks subsequentlydescribed the room becoming -smokey" and the fact. it:. was difficulteo hear because of the gunfire and fire alarm. Austin Eubankspainted out he believed there had also been some pipe bombexplosions occurring on the west side of the library. AustinEubanks was unable to be more specific concerning what occurred onthe west aide of the library but believed the suspects had beenover a.n that area for Il a few minutes."

Austin EUbanks stated he next began to hear gunshots comingfrom what he believed was either table #1, #2 or #3 on ~he easts~de of ~he library. Austin Eubanks stated there were numerousgunshots coming from that location. Austin Eupanks went ontoindicate he heard what he thought was rapid gunfire and then apause and possibly a single shot at different times when thesuspects were on ~he east side of the library.

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Pursuant to questioning} Austin Eubanks stated he was notexactly certain how the suspects went from the west section to theeast section of the library. Austin Eub~~ks did indicate there wasone poin~ he believed one of the suspects had passed through a Setof bookshelves from the far west section entering the Centersection and then continuing onto the far east section of thelibrary. Austin Eubanks diagramed what he ~elieved was possibly apath of travel for one of the suspects. Austin Eubanks stated hebelieved the ocher suspect had walked to the east aeeeion of thelibrary from the far north. Austin Eubanks then diagramed thatmovement. IO confirmed with Austin Eubanks he did not actually seeeither of the suspects moving in the manner indicated but based hisbelief on the fact he could hear movement which he thought wouldhave been consistent with what he had previously described. AustinEubanks was unable to be more specific concerning that pOknt

Austin Eubanks estimated the suspects were on the east side ofthe library for approximately "a minute or two H before he saw DylanKlebold walk between the book shelves near tables #3 and #5.Austin Eubanks clarified Dylan Klebold was walking from the eastinto the center section of the library. According to AustinEubanks, Eric Harris appeared from Chat same location momentslater 10 confirmed with Austin Eubanks he had seen both DylanKlebold and Eric Harris walk into che center section of che libraryfrom a separation between book shelves which he believed were neartables #3 and #5. Austin EubL~k6 clarified ~his was the first tkmehe had actually seen Eric Harris.

IQ again confirmed with Austin Eubanks the first time he hadseen Eric Harris was when the forenamed entered the center sectionof the library, Austin Eubanks was then aSked to describe ericHarris. Austin Eubanks stated actually the only thing he noticedregarding Eric Harris was ene forenamed's 11face and weapon. 'f

Austin Eubanks stated he did not see Eric Harris as well as he hadseen Dylan Klebold. When asked to describe what he had seen,Austin Eubanks s:tated Eric Harris is a white male with Hbrown haircut ahort. ll Austin Eubanks stated the one thing he specificallynociced regarding Eric Harris was the forenamed had l1blood aroundhis face. II When asked to be more specific. Austin Eubanks statedEric HarX"ia had what appeared to be "quite a bit of blood aroundhis mouth, under his nose. 'I Austin Eubanks then stated he had seenEric Harris holding what he described as a black or dark coloredHrifle'!. Austin Eubanks stated he was cert.ain the weapon he hadseen Eric Harris holding was not a shot.gun, Austin Eubanks wasunable to be more specific concerning Eric Harris' description.Austin Eubanks did clarify he was posit~ve as to his identificationof Eric Harris based on seeing that individual in school prior tothis dace.

According to Austin Eubanks, at the point Dylan Kleboldencered the center section of the library, he recalled thefore~amed standing between tables 11 and 13. Aust.in Eubanks went

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on to indicate at the point Eric Harris ente~ed the center sectionof the libra~t, he remembered hearing Oylan Klebold comment to theforenamed, liI'm out of ammo," or ":t'rn out, i! referring to the facthe needed to reload his weapon. Austin Eubanks stated he was notcertain whether Dylan Klebold Or Eric Harris reloaded weapons atthat time. Austin Eubanks stated he did know at one point DylanKlebold moved further west between tables ~1 and 13. AustinEubanks stated it was at that time he obserJed Eric Harris standingup towards the north end of tabla ll, Austin Eubanks explained itwas also during that same time frame he heard a male student whomhe believed was possibly under table 11 ask Dylan Klebold, "What.are you doing7 n Austin EUbanks stated Dylan Klebold responded,"Killing people.!> Austin Eubanks stated he could not be positiveas to the location of that student.

~ Austin Eubanks stated he next heard Dylan Klebold tell"ecmeone" to leave the library, Austin Eubanks s t aced he was notcertain if anyone accually left the library at that time. IOconfirmed with Austin Eubanks he did not actually see anyoneleaving the library at that point.

Austin Eubanks state~ hl$ next recollection occurred whenDylan Klebold pointed the r'Tec-9'! under his table, According toAustin gubanks, Dylan Klebald would have been standing northeastfrom his table. Austin Eubanks then placed a un ll on the diagramindicating the location where Dylan Klebcld was last seen as hepoin~ed the Tec-9 under tne table. Austin Eubanks stated he thenturned his head away just prior to the shots being fired. AustinEubanks confirmed it was at tr~t point Dylan Klebold fired numerousrapid rounds underneath cable 14. Austin Eubanks estimated therewere approximately seven rapid shots fired underneath table 14 atthat point. When asked as to the whereabouts of Eric Harris whenthose shots were fired, Austin Eubanks stated he believed theforenamed was located between tables 11 and 9, Austin Eubanksclarified the location where he believed Eric Harris was locatedwas the last place he had seen the forenamed prior to Dylan Kleboldshooting under table 14,

When asked what happened after Dylan ~lebcld shot underneathtable 14, Austin Eubanks stated he remembered being shot in hisright hand injurins his index and little finger. along with hisleft knee. AUstin Eubanks stated ~t was not until after DylanKlebold had stopped firing his weapon did he realite he wasactually injured, Acco~ding to Austin Eubanks, all of the abovereferenced knjuries were a result of gunfire.

Austin Eubanks stated after realizing he had been sqot, within"seconds'l he observed blood on the left arm of "JennyU (referringto ~ennifer Doyle}. Austin Eubanks then recalled looking in thedirection of Cory DePooter's head and observed the forenamed hadhis eyes shut and there was "a let of blood on his back.'! AustinE:ubanks stated Cory bePooter was also "moaning~ at t.hat time.

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Austin Eubanks told IO after Dylan Klebold had finished firingunder his cable, he then "played dead.~ According to AustinEubanks, he was not looking around and simply kept his head downresting it on Cory DePooter's backpack. Austin Eubanks stated heknew other individuals underneath table 14 had either been injuredQr killed, Austin Eubanks did not recall anyone moving under table14 after Dylan Klebold finished firing his weapon.

Austin Eubanks stated after Dylan Klebold had fired his weaponin the manner inaicated, he had a difficult time uhearing. 1l AustinEubanks stated he did remembe~ a short time later hearing DylanKlabold state, "something about a knife and something he alwayswanted to do,·j Austin Eubanks stated it was his vi.mpr ee a i.cn he(referring to Dylan Kleboldl was talking about cutting or stabbingsomeone," Austin Eubanks pointed out at nO time during thisincident did he see Dylan Klebold in possession of a knife. AustinEubanks speculated Dylan Klebold must have made that statementsomewhere near table 14, otherwise he would not have been able tohear the comment. Austin Eubanks again clarified he was havingdiffiCUlty hearing after Dylan Klebold had fired his weapon undertable l~.

Austin Eubanks stated it was his impreision after DylanKlebold had fired underneath his table boeh suspects proceedednorth through the library and eventually exited. Austin Eubanksstated he did not recall hearing any additional gunshots in thecenter section of the library prior to the time he believed theyhad left. Austin Eubanks did ~ndicate there were additionalgunshots heard but he believed that occurred after the suspects hadleft the library. IO verified with Austin Eubanks based on hisrecollection: he d~d not believe additional rounds were fired inthe center section of the library after the shooting occurred attable 14. IO further clarified any additional gunshots heard afterthat point would noe have been in the center section. IO furtherverified with Austin Eubanks that at some paint later, he believedhe was hearing gunshots outside the library.

Austin Bubanks estimated app~oximately three minute$ afterDylan Klebold had fired under his table, he began to hear a lot ofmovement in the library. Austin Eubanks stated it was at that timehe began seeing fellow studencs standing up and moving norththrough the library. Austin Eubanks was unable to be more specificconcerning that point. Austin Eubanks did state upon mak1ng thatobservation. he was conv~nced the suspects had left the l~brary anddecided to flee the area. Austin Eubanks stated prior to movingfrom under the library. he did check. Cory OePooter'S "pulse" (wristarea) and was unable to detect any signs of life, Austin Eubanksseated he then walked back around to the south of the library(behind the bookshelves) and approached table 15. Austin Eubanksstated it was at thac point he grabbed Dan Stapleton by his arm andhelped the forenamed up as both proceeded towards the north exit of

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the library, Austin Eubanks recalled when exiting the library, healong with numerous other people were moving in a "group." AustinEubanks stated at the point he reached the north library exit, heobserved a police vehicle parked in a northwesterly direction fromthat door Austin Eubanks then pointed Qut he remembered seeing a"clip" which appeared t.o have been dropped near the librarz·t a northexit door. Austin Eubanks stated he assumed it belonged to thesuspects and was unable to provide any additional informationconcerning that point. Austin Eubanks indicated he along withfellow students leaving the library then proceeded towards thepolice vehicle and ultimately positioned themselves behind thatunit. Austin Eubanks stated it was at that point numerousindividuals began receiving first aid. Austin Eubanks explained hesubsequently provided his shirt to be used as a bandage for one ofthe injured students.

Austin gubanks estimated he was located behind the markedpolice unit for approximately 15 minutes, after which three to fourpol~ce vehicles arrived and began to move the most seriouslyinjured students to safety. Austin EubankS explained he waseventually evacuated and taken to a triage area.

PurSuant to questioning, ~ustin Eubanks estimated the suspectswere in the library for a total of approximately II seven minutes. r'

Austin Eubanks then told IO he did not recall any additionalinformation related to this incident.

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waS unable to supply anyadditional information related to this investigation. 10subsequently concluded his interview with Austin Eubanks. See thediagram prepared by Austin Eubanks fer complete details.

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On April 20,1999, at approximately l2:35p.m" the reporting officer was contactedbyCaptain Jim Collier and directedto reportto the command post located at South PierceStreet and West Bowles, Lakewood, Colorado. The reporting officer then responded tothe commandpost. At the command post, thereporting officerwas directed toaccompany one ofthe ambulance crewswhenthey begantransportingvictims to thehospital. The reportingofficer was assigned to a LittletonFire Departmentambulance.The crew consisted ofLt Monte Fleming, JohnAlyard,Ryan Knautson,and CharlieMartinez. They are all membersof the Littleton Fire Department.

At approximately 2:46p.m.,the ambulance crew and the reportingofficer moved intopositionand picked up a male victim. He was identified as Patrick John Ireland. Hisdate-of-birthis June 12, 1981. His homeaddress is

_ He was suffering froma gunshot wound to the le orebea, a guns ot woundo e n t foot, and a lacerationof the rightinnerelbow. At the time he was placed in

the ambulance,he was wearing a graytee-shirt, a whiteundershirt, blue jeans, socks anda gold colorednecklace with a water-ski pendant. He was not wearing shoes. His socks,pants, shirt, and head were covered withblood. Insidethe ambulancehe was attendedtoby Firemen Fleming and Knautson, Theycut off all of his clothesexcept his undershorts.These clothes were turnedover to the reporting officerwho took control of them. He wastransported to St. Anthony's Hospital.

Inside the ambulance, the reporting officeraskedMr. Ireland to describe what badoccurred. He stated that he was shotby a manwho waswearing black clothes and amask. The man was carryinga longgun. He couldnot describethe size of the man nordid be recognize the man. He statedtherewas also a secondman who was shooting.This man also wore a mask. He couldprovide no otherdescriptionof the secondgunman. Mr. Ireland stated that he was in the "emergency room" when he was shot. Hecould not rememberwho he was talking to or whathe was doing at the time of theshooting. He stated that the shooting surprised him and he did not remember any othergunshots. He stated that he saw neitherhand grenades nor bombs. He had no ideawhowouidwant to shoot him. He couldprovide no other details.

At St, Anthony's Hospital,Mr. Ireland was originally treated by Dr. Pi and Dr.. DarcyFisher. Dr. Fisher confirmedthat the wound to the forehead and the wound to the footwereboth gunshot wounds. She removed one small fragment from the foreheadwound.The reporting officer took possession of this fragment. Dr. Fisher stated that surgerywould be required to remove the remainder of the bullet.Dr. Fisher removedhisunderwearand gave these the reporting officerwhoassumed control of them. Dr. Prallperformedthe surgery. Duringthe course of the surgery, Ms. Diane Greenburg, a nurse,left the operating room and gave the reporting officer the bullet that had been removedfromMr. Ireland's head. Ms. Greenburg statedthat Dr. Prallbad removed the bulla and

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given it to her to giveto the reporting officer. The reporting officer also tookcontrol ofthe bullet.

Dueto the circumstances, the reporting officer hadno SBIforms withhim at thetime hewasat the hospital. Theneurosurgeon, Dr. Prall, stared thattherewasa substantialchance that Mr. Ireland would suffer a permanent loss of physical abilities.

Thereporting officer placed all of theevidence in theDenver Police Departmentproperty bureau. Theproperty bureau number is 559697. Theevidence consists of onemetal fragment, onebulletfragment, onewatch, onepair of bloody pantswitha belt, twobloody socks,onebloody gray shirt, one pairof underwear, and onebloodywhiteundershirt. His walletwithassorted papers and sixdollars, his necklace andhiskeyswere placedinto personal property underthe same invoice number.

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On 05/11/99 Detective Boatright (roJ was assigned DN#4674requesting he contact and in~erview Patrick Ireland. Within thenarrative of the lead, IO was informed property belon9ing toPatrick Ireland was found in the library sUbsequent to the incidentoccurring on 04/20/99. In addition, it was known patrick !relandwas the student who escaped the librar/ with the assistance ofemergency personnel via one of the west library windows. It wasdetermined IO would contact and interview Patrick Ireland toconfirm his whereabout a during the incident and any information hehad relevant to the investigation,

On 05/13/99 at approximately 0840 hours! IO responded to craigHospital located at 3425 So. Clarkson Street, Englewood, Coloradofor the purpose of contacting Patrick Ireland. Upon arrival atthat location! 10 initially mec with the forenamed's fatheridentified as John Ireland. At that point Ie turned over to JohnIreland his son's wallet and contents which IO had previously beenremoved from evidence at the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department.

IO would note John Ireland had specifically requested the returnof his son's wallet in addition to othe~ items. The other itemsrequested could not be returned at the present time due to theongoing nature of the investigation.

After meeting John Ireland, IO then followed him to a roomwhere the interview was to OCCU~. Upon arrival at that location,IO was in~roduced to Dr. James C. Schraa (Doctor of Psychology withthe Colorado Neurological Instituter. IO was informed Dr. Schraahad been assigned follow-up treatment with Patrick Ireland. Dr.Schraa lists his business office as 701 E. Hampden Avenue Suite330/ Englewood, CO 80110-2776, Ph. 303-789-8393. It wa5 determinedDr. Schraa along with both Patrick !reland's parents would bepresent for the interview.

On the date inQicated at approximately 0900 hours, IO met withpatrick Ireland. Upon contact with Patrick Ireland, IO confirmedhis full name is pacrick John Ireland, age 17, dob: 06/12/61.Patrick Ireland indicated he is also known by the first name of"Pat.!! Patrick Ireland then verified to IO he still resides at

Ireland indicaced he is presently a junior atSchool,

IO subsequently requested Pat Ireland provide an account ofhis activities on 04/20/99 beginning at the time he arrived atschool. Pat Ireland stated on the date indicaced he drove himselfto school and recalled arriving at approximately 0715 hours. PatIreland stated he normally arrives at school around that time duetc the fact he needs to So to his locker before responding to his1st hour class, Pursuant to queseioning, Pat Ireland $tated hisassigned parking space is #360 which is located in the south junior

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DET12J 07/15/1999 071499/BOATRIGHT/MO ---parking lot. IO further confirmed with Pat Ireland the lrjuniorlotH is located on the south side of Columbine High School. PatIreland went onto clarify that he used the southwest lower entrancewhen entering the school on the date in question. Pat Irelandrelated he did not recall any unusual activity when he arrived atschaol. Pat Ireland reiterated he initially went to his lockerprior to responding to hi$ 1st period class.

According to Pat Ireland, he then attended his let hour classwhich began at approximately 0730 hours and concludes atapproximately 0820 hours. Pat Ireland identified his 1st pe~iod

class as "'Statistics" which is taught by IIMr. Blatchford. ll PatIreland told IO his IlStatistice H is located in the 11!4ath Hall" inroom "MA8. 1l -IO would note classroom MAS is located in thesoutheast area of the school.

Pat Ireland explained after leaving his 1st period class hethen stopped at his locker to retrieve materials he would need ferhis 2nd period class. According to Pat Ireland, going to hislocker in between 1st and 2nd period was a normal routine.

Pat Ireland explained he then attended his 2nd period classwhich began at approximately 0625 hours and concluded atapproximately 0920 hours. Pat Ireland pointed out he knew the2nd period class was longer ehan any of the other classes scheduledduring the day due to the fact students receive the morningannouncements at that time. Pat Ireland went onto state his2nd period class Le "History" which is taught by lIMr. s Ieanex . Il

Pat: Ireland told 10 his "History" classroom is identified as: llSS3 11

which is located off the "madn hall" (north hall) on the east sideof the building. Pat Ireland indicated after his 2nd period classended he again stopped at his locker and retrieved materials heneeded for his 3rd period class, Again, Pat Ireland indicated theabove activity was his normal routine.

Pat Ireland explained he then attended his ~rd period classwhich began at approximately 0925 hours and concluded atapproximately 1015 hours, Pat Ireland identified his 3rd periodclass as HTrigonometry" taught by "Mr. 'tank, II According to PatIreland, his lITrigonomer:.:ry" class is located in the I'Mach hall II inroom IlMA2,"

Pat Ireland next indicated his 4th period class is "free ll

adding that. he also has "A lunch." Pat Ireland at;;ted it was acommon occurrence for he along with others to take their lunchbreak during 4th period. Pat Ireland stated 4th period begins atapproximately 1020 hours and concludes at approximately 1110 hours.on the date in question, Pat Ireland stated he did go to lunchearly that day {during 4th period) and recalled going to either'\New York Bagels" or che IIHall.'~ 1\ccording to Pat Ireland, he wentto lunch that date with Beth Klepper, Emily Jacobsen, KyleMickelson and Christy Mohrbacher. Pursuant eo questioning, Pat

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DET123 07/15/1999 071499!BOATRIGHT!MO --Ireland stated Beth Klepper drove the forenamed to lunch. PatIreland clarified Seth Klepper parks in the junior parking lot{south side of the school, un~~own parking space number) andreturned to that same location after coming back from lunch.

Pat Ireland estimated he along with forenamed returned to theschool property from lunch sometime prior to l~lO hours. PatIreland stated he based that estimation on the fact that he had notheard the bell prior to going to his locker. Pat Ireland wassubsequently asked if he recalled any unusual activity during theearly morning hours of Q4/20/99 to include the time frame when hereturned to school from lunch. Pat Ireland responded in thenegative indicating as far as he knew the day had been veryroutine.

Pat Ireland reiterated he returned to Columbine High Schoolfrom lunch at approximately 1110 hours. Pac Ireland seated he re~

entered the school via the southwest lower entrance. Pat Irelandstated he th~n went to his locker in order to retrieve hisStatistics book with the intention of going to the library. PatIreland stated his intention was to complete a homework assignmentfor his St.at.istics class, Pat ;tr~land pc.isit.ed out during "p' lunch fl

he normally went to the library and met with a regular group offriends where they would remain through A lunch. Pat Irelandclarified he would utilize his A lunch time period to either beginor complete homework assignments,

IO clarified with Pat Ireland, when he returned back toColumbine H~9h School from lunch he separaced from the above namedfriends and subsequently responded to his locker and then to thelibrary. IO further clarified with Pat Ireland he was alone afterreturning from lunch up and to the point he arrived at the library.

Pat Ireland stated when he entered the library he walked tothe far west section and found a table where some of his friendswere located. IO subsequently supplied Pat Ireland with a diagramof the library and requested he identify the table where he and hisfriends sat. Pat Ireland immediately pointed to table #15 andplaced an X at the southeast corner of that tahle indicating wherehe sat, When asked who was present when he arrived, Pat Irelands~ated he believed corey DePooter and Austin Eubanks were the firstindividuals seated at the table (north side) followed by himself,Makai Hall, and Dan Steepleton, A. previously noted, Pat Irelandindicated Corey OePooter and Austin Eubanks were located on thenorth s~de of the table, however, he could not be more specificconcerning their positioning. In respect to the individuals seatedon the south side of the table, Pat Ireland stated he knew he wason the southeast corner and immediately to his left was Makai Hall.Pat Ireland went onto state Dan Steepleton would have then beenlocated on the far west end of table #15 on the south aide. PatIreland then placed first initials ("D, M & P", near the XS wherehe knew Dan Steepleton, Makai Hall and him~elf were located. IO

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sUbsequently confirmed shortly after he arrived in the library{prior to lllS hours) he knew Corey DePoote~, Austin Eubanks, DanSteepleton and Makai aall were all present at table #15. See theaforementioned diagram for details.

Pat Ireland stated a short time later (within 5 to 10 minutes}he hea:r:d a "t.eacher" enter the library adding it sounded as thoughshe was rs cz-earrdnq.» Pat. Ireland stated he did not know theteacher's name but believed he was late~ told she waa allsubstitute." Pat Ireland further pointed out based on hislocation in the library he did not actually have a clear view ofthe teacher when she entered the library.

Pat Ireland stated once the individual he identified as theII teacher" entered the library he heard h;er indicate in a loud voicethat "twc kids" had "guns" and "ever-ybody get down." Pat. Irelandstated it was apparent to him the teacher .sounded "frightened" andshe later repeace4 the above command when she began shouting, "Staydown. II Pat Ireland stated he assumed the teacher remained uptowards the north end of the library due to the fact the voiceseemed to be coming from the same location. Pat Ireland againclarified he did not actually see the teacher based on his locationin the library.

When asked what occurred after he began to hear the teachershouting. Pat Ireland st.ated it was obvious people were Hcontused. H

Pat Ireland stated for a moment he thought the situation waspossibly a v j oke." however, added as the teacher continued shoutingwith what he described as a frightened voice he then realized shewas serious. Pat Ireland stated it wag also arouna that same timeframe he recalled hearing possible «expj.os Lcns« and llgutlshots,"Pat Ireland stated at that point he then positioned himselfunderneath table #15. Pat Ireland explained when positioninghimself under the table he was located near the southeast cornerfacing north. In respect to everyone elseis positioning, PatIreland stated he knew O~~ Steepleton and Makai Hall had also movedunder the table and remained basically in their same positions(facing north), however, he was uncertain as to the whereabouts ofCorey DePooter ~~d Austin Eubanks. Pat Ireland stated he wascertain the two forenamed friends had left table #15, however, hedid nQt know where they went,

Pat Ireland stated his next recollection occurred as he beganto hear what he thought were gunshots di~ectly outside the library.Pat Ireland stated it was obvious the "gunshots lT we%,e llcomingcloser. 'I Pat Ireland clarified he was not referring to thegunshots comins from inside the library at this point.

Pat Ireland explained soon thereafter he realized the gunshots(possibly two to three) were then comlng from inside the librarynorth of his location. Pat Ireland stated at that point he thenput his head down and closed his eyes. Pat Ireland stated he next

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---heard one of the suspect a yell, "Anybody with a whit .. hat standup. II Pat Ireland went onto state it was possible the suspect hadadded to tha.t statement, lfA.nybody with a white hat or at jock wassupposed to stand up." According to Pat I~eland, he was not awareof anyone who complied with that suspect's request. Pat Irelanddid point out he was wearing a ball cap that date, but could notdescribe the hat. Pat Ireland was also unable to recall if heremoved the hat after hearing the suspects,

Pat Ireland stated he next heard one of the suspects state,!!This is for all the shit you put us through," Pat Ireland statedhe then recalled hearing different voices whiCh he believed werecoming from the suspects. Pat Ireland clarified he did notactually remember seeing either of the suspects but ~~ew he hadheard two distinct voices, however, concluded there were at leasttwo suspects who had entered the libra~i. Pursuanc to questioning,Pat Ireland seated the above described statements appeared to becorning from the northwesc section ot the library. When asked if hecould prOVide any addieional information regarding the distinctvoices he heard, Pat Ireland responded in the negative. PatIreland stated he simply recalled thinking there were at least twosuspects in the library based on hearing differenc voices ~at

Ireland was unable to elaborate on that poine.

Pat Ireland stated after hearing the above statements, he thenbegan to hea~ additional gunshots. According to Pat Ireland, thosegunshots were coming from the northwest section of the library.Pat Ireland stated it was at that point he then realized Makai Hallhad been shot. to confirmed with Pat Ireland up to that po~nt hehad basically held his head down with his eyes closed, thus he wasnot able to visually observe the suspects. When asked how hebecame aware of Makai Hall being shot, Pat IrelanQ stated h.. h..ard"Makai's groans," When hearing the groans Pat Ireland stated itcaused him to open his eyes and look towards where Makai Hall waslocated. According to Pat Ireland, at the time he looked a~ MakaiHall, he could sea the forenamed had been shot and the~e was bloodflowing from his right knee. Pat Ireland stated it was around thatSame time frame he also observed blood on Dan Steepleton's foot butwas not clear as to whether or not Dan Steepleton had been shot.

Pat Ireland next reported either prior to realizing Makai Hallhad been shot or soon thereafter, he began ~playing dead. ff PatIreland seated while 'lplaying dead» he remembered !!holding mybreath." Pat Ireland cla.rified he could not specifically recallwhen he attempted to play dead during the incident but knewobViously it was prio~ to when he waa shot,

Pat Ireland went onto state at some point during this incioenthe remembered moving to the west towards Makai Hall for the purposeof providing that individual with first aid. Pat !4eland seated heremembered moving over cowards Makai Hall on his hands and kneesand eventually positioned himself somewhat behind Makai Hall and

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DET123 07/15/1999 071499/BOATRIGHT/MO ---Dan Steepleton. Pat Ireland stated he belie,~d he engaged in theabove activity fo~ the purpose of putting direct pressure on MakaiHall's knee in order to control the bleeding. Pat Ireland statedhe remembered reaching out with his left hand towards Makai Hall'sknee just at t.he f\\oment he "blacked out," Pat Ireland speculatedhe had been shot in the head at the time he J blacked out. rl PatIreland told IO he had no recollection of being shot in the footprier to losing consciousness. When asked if he had any additional~

recollections prior to the time he lost consciousness, Pat Irelandthought for a moment and then recalled he had heard the school firealarm activate, Pat Ireland stated he believed that occurred priorto the time he lost consciousness but went onto state he believedthe fire alarm was still going off when he later awakened. PatIreland then made reference CO the "strobe" light which isassociated with the fire alarm.

When asked to relate his next recollection, Pat Ireland statedwhen he awakened he remembered his ears were "ringing" and heremembered hearing what he thought was a lIcoughing" sound. PatIreland stated he believed the coughing was coming f~om a male dueto the fact the "voice sounded deeper. 1J Pat Ireland stated he wasconfident the coughing he heard was coming from the east aide ofthe library. Pat Ireland pointed out at some poine later thecoughing stopped and he did not hear it again. At the time PatIreland was unable to expound furcher on that point.

Pursuant to questioning! Pat !reland stated he had noknowledge as to how long he had been unconscious bue did rememberwhen he awakened he did not see any movement in the librar/, Whenasked if he remembered where he was located when he awakened, PatIreland responded in the affirmative and then drew an X and circledit on the diagram. 10 would note the aforementioned designation islocated just to the north of table ~15 (east of table ~16). PatIreland seated he recalled lookin9 towards the west at the point heawakened, Pat Ireland stated he had no recollection of moving fromhis original position (when shet} to the point he was at when herecalled awakening. IO clarified with Pat Ireland it was hisrecolleQtian he would have been south of table ~l5 when he wasshot.

Pat lreland pointed out at the time he awakened he believed hewas "going in and out '1 referring to his level of consciousness.Pat Ireland did state he remembered hearing approximately four tofive bells ringing after he awakened and had begun to try and leavethe llbrary.

IO again asked Pat Ireland if he remembered how long the"coughing" had gone on prior to its stopping_ Pat Ireland statedhe was uncertain. Pat Ireland reported he actually had no realsense of time from the point he awakened to when he escaped throughthe west library window Pat Ireland reiterated he believed he wasgoing Ilin and out" of consciousness as he attempted to flee the

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---library. It was at that point IO verified with Pat Ireland when heawakened he made a conscious decision to leave the library. Whenasked to elaborate on that point, Pat Ireland stated he rememberedseeing the "wi.ndows " and thinking that was limy way out. II PatIreland then made reference to "escaping out the window."

Pat Ireland stated at aome point after awakening anddetermining he was going to move towards the west windows 1 hestarted crawling across the floor. Pat Ireland stated at thatpoint he was aware of the fact he could only use his left arm andleft leg when engaging in that acci~ity. Pat Ireland reported ashe started to move in a northwesterly direction towards the windowshe believed he had llblacked out tt several times before he reachedhis destination. Pat Ireland stated as he was crawling he didremember having to "mcve chairs. n Pat. Ireland then describedsl~ding chairs out of his way as he attempted to crawl in anorthwesterly direction towards the windows. Pat Ireland wasunable to be mOre specific concerning that point.

Pat Ireland was then asked to describe the path he believed hehad taken when exiting the library. Pat Ireland subsequently drewa line beginning on the north side of table #15 in a northwesterlydirection Which ~~ded at the area where the west windows werelocated. Pat Ireland pointed out he had absolutely no idea howlong it cook him to crawl from his original position to the windowwhere he eventually escaped the library. Pat Ireland did statewhen he arrived at the windows he realized he had lost his rightshoe hut again had no real explanation for how that occurred.

At this point in the interview IO stopped Pat Ireland for thepurpose of asking additional questions specific to the point whenhe originally awakened. IO confirmed with Pat Ireland that when heawakened he believed he was facing a westerly direction. Whenasked if he ever recalled looking south in the library/specifically in the direction of table #15, Pat Ireland stated hewas uncertain. When asked if he recalled seeing anyone as hecrawled towards the west windows} Pat Ireland again responded inthe negative. Pat Ireland then stated he did remember seeing oneperson who was locatea under the far south computer table towardsthe west and. Pat Ireland des~ri~ed that individual as a malestudent with light colored halr. Pat Ireland pointed out he didnot see that individual until about the time he reached the westwindows to the library. Pat Ireland $tated based on what he knowsnow he feels that person was deceased, Pat Ireland was unable toprovide any additional information related to that observation.For purposes of clarification, Pat Ireland did not recall seeingany ocher individuals in the library from the point he awakeneduntil he reached the west windows.

When asked to describe what occurred when he arrivedwindows, Pat Ireland stated he remembered seein9 a llblue"which was facing east (pushed up against the west wall) ,

at t.hechairPat

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Ireland stated he used the south side of that chair to pull himselfup onto the window ledge. Pat Ireland described using the leftside of hi. body to pull himself up onto the window ledge. IOclarified with Pat Ireland he would have been facing an easterlydirection (baok to the west wall) at the time he engaged in thatactivity.

Pat Ireland reported once he was able to pUll himself up ontothe window ledge he then II swept glass away"" in an effort to cleara path to crawl over. Pat Ireland told IO he did not recallfeeling any pain in his head or foot from the time he awakened~

Pat Ireland stated his next recollection occurred as he hadstarted to position himself on the window ledge, Pat Irelandstated it was at that po.int; he began to hear II screaming, " PatIreland stated he did not initially understand what was beingyelled but later heard someone ceIling him to "stay.1I Pat Irelandzepoxced to IO he was very l'confusedll at that point adding "l can'tsee who's yelling at me. n

Pat Ireland stated moments later he then heard a voice yell upto him it was llokay to jump.n Pat Ireland explained he next111eaned out the window." Pat Ireland told IO he did not recallbeing caught or placed down onto the roof of the truck. Accordingto Pat Ireland, he had no recollection of dropping out of thewindow of the library. Pat Ireland explained after leaning out thewindow of the library his next recollection was when he was beingspoken to by emergency care personnel. Pat Ireland related heremembered he was trying to tell emergency workers his namepOinting out he believed he was responding to questions regardingcontact information as it pertained to his father, Pat Irelandstated he believed that activity was ocourring while inside anambulance, Pat Ireland was unable to expound on that point.

Pat Ireland was next asked if he could recall any additionaldetails ~elated to this incident, either prior to or after he hadbeen shot. Pat Ireland thought for a moment and then recalledhearing the suspects !lla.ughing l l prior to the time he was shot.Pat Ireland indicaeed he was unable to recall any additionalinformation at this time, IO would note it was pointed out by Dr,Sch~aa due to the nature of Pat Ireland's injury it was possible astime went on he could recall additional details. Pat Ireland didagree to contact IO in the future if he had additionalrecollections.

In respect to Pat Ireland's injuries, IO was informed theforenamed had two gunshot wounds to the head and one to the rightfoot. IO would note one of tbe projectiles lodged in Pat Ireland'shead was removed during surgery and turned over to law enforcementas evidence. As of the date of this interview, IO has not seen anymedical repor~s associated with Pat Ireland. See the dia.gramsutilized by Pat Ireland for complete detail•.

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Connected to Jefferson County Sheriff's Department case #99-7625

On 05/11/99, Detective Boatright 110) was assigned ON #4873requesting he contact and interliew Mark Kintgen. Within thenarrative of the lead i 10 was informed Mark Kintgen was in thelibrary when the incident occurred and was one of the studentsshot,

On 05/12/99 at approximately 0800 hours, IO responded to ......L • . $, and met

with Mark Alan K~ntgen, age 17, dob: 05/30/81. IO verified withMark Kintgen he is presently a j~~ior at Columbine High School,Also present for ~he interview with Mark Kintgents parentsidentified as Dale and F~y Kintgen.

During the interview f IO initially requested Mark Kintgen toprovide an account of his activities on 04/20/99 beginning at thetime he arrived at school. Mark Kintgen initially told IO henormally arrives at school at approximately 07lS hours as was thecase this date. Mark Kintgen clarified he is driven to school byhis t'",in brother I'Mike. 'I Mark Kintgen stated Michael Kincgen' sparking space is identified as #402 and lS located south of thecommons area. Pursuant to questioning. Mark Kintgen stated he didnot observe any unusual activity when ne ar~ived at school on04/20/99.

According to Mark Kintgen, after arriving at school he thenattended his first hour class which begins at approximately 0730nours and concludes at approximately 0810 hours. Mark Kintgenidentified his lst:. period class as "Choir" wh.ich is taught:. by "Mr.Andres Sr," Mark Kincgen told IO his choir class is ta~ght in the"Choir Room" located directly across from the lIScience area, II

Mark Kintgen explained he then attended his 2nd period classwhich hegan at approximately 0815 hour$ and concluded atapproximately 0920 hours. Mark Kintgen stated the 2nd period classheld at Columbine Hi9h School is five minutes longer than usual dueto the fact the students receive the daily a~~ounceroent$ duringthat class period. Mark Kintgsn went onto lndicace theannouncements are delivered via a television broadcast which is sstup from the Rebel News Necwork Room located in the library. Whenasked if he recalled anything specif~c about the announcements thatday, Mark Kintgen resp~nded in the negative but stated he didremember a scrolling message which is shown throughout the schoolat various locations, Mark Kintgen identified that message as~''Ioday is not a good day to be here, II Mark Kintgen stated he hadno explanation as to the specific meaning of the messaSe nor did heknow who authored the message.

Continuing with Mark Kintgen's explanation of the day, IOconfirmed after concluding his 1st period class he then went to 2ndpetiod which he ldentified as llWorld HistoryU taught by "MrS.

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Herring. II Mark Kintgen stated his -wcr-Ld Hi.ator-y'' class is taughtin Room ssa located in the northeast section of the school.

After completing the second period class, Mark Kintgen statedhe then went to 1I3rd period. tl Mark Kint:gen stated his 3rd periodelass begins at approximately 0925 hours and concludes atapproximately 1015 hours. MarK Kintgen identified his 3rd periodclass as "Leal;ning Lab '• which was basically a. supervised HStudyhall. It Mark Kintgen stated his "Learning Lab" is supervised byHMr, Ortiz. II Mark Kintgen indicated the !'Learning Lab" is locatedin Room l'SESll which is on the Lcwez- level of ehe school just east.of the com.mons area" Mark Kintgen pointed out the II Learning Lab I'

is near the "Foreign Language rcoes.:

In respect to his 4th period claas j Mark Kintgen stated itbesan at approximately 1020 hours and concluded at approximately1110 hours Mark Kintgen identified his 4th period class as/iAlgebra I" which is 1:.aught by "Mr. Higgins," Mark Kintgen. statedhis Algebra! class is located in room /iMA4 1l in the "Math area, It

IO would note the math area is located in the southeast section ofthe school.

Mark Kintgen explained his 5th period class is a Hfree period IIadding during that time he usually went to the library. MarkKintgen clarified he almost always went to the library in ordar ~o

study during 5th period. Mark Kin~gen further Clarified he hadbeen assigned liB Lunch,"

Mark Kintgen told IO after his Algebra I class ended, he thenwent to the libraxy, Mark Kintgen was subsequently handed adiagram and re~~ested to draw his path of travel to the l~brary,

As Mark Kintgen began that process, he recalled after leaving"Math l " he went to the "restroOm. II 10 would note the restroomidentified by Mark Kintgen is locateQ in ehe south hall towards theeast end of the building. Mark Kintgen continued by stating afterusing the restroom he then continued down the south hall stoppingat:. his locker which was located near the llChoir Room. II MarkK~ntgen indicated after leaving his locker he walked directly tothe library. Mark Kintgen estimated he arrived in the libraryshortly after the 1~15 bell rang. Ma~k Kin~gen clarified hebelieved he arrived at the library at approximately 1120 hours.Pursuan~ to questioning. Mark Kintgen stated when arriving in thelibrary he was in possession of a "Red Janus Sport ll backpack whichhad a "Leetbe c" support pouch.

Mark Kintgsn was then handed a diagram of the library andasked to describe his activities after entering that location.Mark Kintgen stated upon enterin9 the library he retrieved amagazine from the magazine rack (located to the north of thelibrary) and then found a place to sit. Mark Kintgen identifiedthe table where he sat as taple #1. Mark Kintgen indicated he satOn the southwest corner of that table (facing north). Pursuan~ to

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questioning , Mark Kintgen stated no one elsa was at table #1 whenhe arrived, however! a short time later he remembered a femalestudent who sat at the northeast corner of the table. Mark Kintgenfu~ther explained he believed the unidentified female wasassociated with a table of girls who were seated at table #2. MarkKintgen indicated he could not identify the girls who were seatedat table #2. As the discussion continued, Ma4k Kintgen stated thegirl whom he was unable to identify who had sat hia tablesubsequently left and he eQuId not recall where ehe went. MarkK~ntgen described ~he unidentified female as having lighter coloredhair {average size) with a tan shirt and blue jeans. Mark Kintgendid clarify after leaving the library he saw that same femalelocated behind one of the patrol cars. Mark Kintgen stated he wascertain she had survived the incident in the librar/, As MarkKintgen continued to discuss that point, he then recalled it wagpossible One of the girls located at table #2 was "Diwata Pe:r;ez. 1l

Mark Kintsen clarified he did not know Diwata Perez but heard shewas one of the girls located at table #2.

When asked what occurred next, Mark Kintsen stated he recalledreading his magazine but did take note of the fact l<Mrs, Keating"(Libt:arian) wae: not at her Husual cesk. 1I Ma:rk Kintgen stated hedid not recall eeeins Mrs, Keating in the library before, during orafter this incident. Mark Kintgen did relate he remembered Mrs.Weld and Mrs. Kean being present in the library prior to theincident, Mark Kintgen stated the forenamed individuals were seensomewhere to the north in the library, however/ he could not bemore specific. Ma~k Kintgen did clarify Ms. Weld and Ms. Kean werelibrarian assistants.

Mark Kintgen next stated he knew there was a student assistantassigned to the librarf for 5th period, however, he did not recallseeing that individual bein9 present. when asked to identify thestudent assistant/ Mark Kincgen stated he knew her first name was"Amber,!! however, he did. not recall her last name. IO would note<\Arnber'\ was later identified as Amber Huntington. 10 furtherverified with Mark Kinegen Amber Huntington was a student assistanthe roucinely saw in the library during 5th period.

10 asked Mark Kinegen to describe what occurred after he beganreading his magaZine. Ma~k Kintgen stated he remembered lookingthrough the magazine for approximately five minutes during whichtime he began hearing IIbanging noises like hammers. tt Mark Kintgenstated du~in9 that five minute perioa he believed he heard at leasethree separate banging noises, again referring to the sound asHhammering,l! Ma.rk Kintgen told 10 the a.forementioned noises didnot cause him any concern nor did he perceive anyone else in thelibrary was concerned zegarding those same noises.

Mark Kincgen related at approximately 1125 hours he thenrecalled "Ms . Nielsen ll entering the library via the east ent.z-ance .Mark Kintgen seated Ms. Nielsen was in the company of a male

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student whom he later identified as Brian Anderson. According toMark Kintgen, Brian Anderson was wearing a blue shirt when heentered the lib~ary. Mark Kinegen could noe specifically recallwhat Ms. Nielsen ~a$ wearing but believed it was a light colored"shirt or sweater. It When asked where those individuals went aft.erentering the library/ Mark Kintgen stated Ms. Nielsen immediately"went behind the counter and was yelling where's Mrs. Keating. II

Mark Kintgen told IO at that point he lost track of where BrianAnderson went. According to Mark Kinegen, he did not see BrianAnderson after the forenamed entered the library.

Mark Kintgen seated when he initially began to observe Ms,Nielsen it seemed as though she was I1panicked." When asked toelaborate, Mark Kintgsn described Ms. Nielsen rapidly entering thalibrary and frantically askins , "Where'g Mrs. Keating. II MarkKinegen stated he could tell from the tone of Ms. Nielsen's voice"acme t.hdnq was wrong." Mark Kintgen went: onto state when Ms.Nielsen was unable to locate Mrs. Keating she pegan ~asking wherethe phone waa. U Ma:rk Kintgen reiterated at that point it. wasobvious t.o him Ms. Nielsen was Hpanicked."

Mark Kintgen next recalled Ms. Nielsen announcing there hadbeen "kids shot. 'I Mark Kintgen again pointed out Ms. Nielsenappeared to be "ver-y upset .. " Mark Kintgen e t.azed he knew somethingserious had happened. however, he was noC clear on the details.

Mark Kintgen stated he next saw Ms. Nielsen using thetelephone which was located behi~d the main counter. Mark Kintgenzecalled as Ms. Nielsen beg~~ to use the phone she then yelled aut,IlKids get under the tables." Mark Kintgen stated he remembered Ms.Nielsen repeating that command several times. According to MarkKintgen, he complied wieh Ms, Nielsen'. request almost immediately.

Mark Kintgen stated he subsequently pasi~icned himselfunderneath table #1. Mark Kintgen clarified he was the only personunder table #1 during the ineident, In respect to his positioning,Mark Kintgen stated he was seated under the southwest CQ~pe~ of thetable facing east. Mark Kintgen related from that position he wasable to see the librarj entrance pointing out the items located inthe display case had been removed, thus there were no majorobstacles in his way.

Mark Kint.gen told IO after I1hiding11 under table #~ for II acouple of minutes, II he remetnbet'ed hearing Itshots or expLoe Lcna" inthe hallway direct.ly out.side the library. Mark Kintgen s~ated hecould not recall the exact number of shots or explosi¢ns he heardbut beLa.eved that activity was going on apoz-ada.ca.Ll y for Ira minuteor two'l before the suspects ente r.ad . Mark Kintger.. point.ed cut. hebelieved the suspects had entered the library around the time hebegan to hear the 11fire alarm. II

In respect to the suspec~s, Mark Kincgen stated he obser~ed

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two individuals enter the library via the east entrance. Whenasked to describe the suspects, Mark Kintgen stated based on hispositioning he did not recall seeing ~he su~pects from the waistup. Mark Kintgen stated he remembered both suspects were wearing"black boots" and both had "blaek pants. n Ma.rk Kintgen related hehad hea.rd reports the suapecte were wearing "t.rench CQats, II

however, he could not confirm t.hat point, to eonflrmed with MarkKincgen he saw two sets of legs enter the library around the timehe began to hear the Hfire alarm ll and both those individuals werewearing black pants and black boots. Mark Kintgen stated itappeared aa though the blaek boots were of a military style.

When asked if he remembered seeing anything else associatedwith the suspects, Mark Kintgen responded in the affirmative. MarkKincgen stated he did remember one of the suspects was car~/ing aweapon which he described as a " a utomat.ic wit.h a Ions .:::lip." MaJ:kKintsen stated the aforementioned weapon appeared shorter than arifle and was dark in color. Mark Kintgen related the reason heassumed the weapon was "automatic" was due to the fact it had alI c l i p . " Mark Kintgen was unable to supply any information todistinguish which suspect was L~ possession of that weapon. Whenasked how he was able to see that weapon! Mark Kintgen speculatedit was possihly ca~~ied low or he simply focused on it, thusfailing to recognize any additional clothing items worn by thesuspects.

Mark Kintgen reported as the suspects ente~ed the librarJT hecould see that they proceeded west. Mark Kintgen stated as thesuspects were walking in between the main counter and the referencedesk he heard one of t.hem st.at.e words to the effect. UEveryone standup. ~l M.ark Kintgen then related it waa at that point: he began tohear "gunshots. u Mark Kintgen could not recall the nul.lll:ier ofgunshots b~t knew it was more than one. Mark Kintgen stated verysoon after the gunshots initially stepped he heard one of thesuspects s cace , l~oh look at his brains. H Mark Kintgen then.recalled hearing the suspect.s; "laugh. ll Maxk Kintgen pointed outthe suspectB continuously laughed throughout the incident atvarious times.

Mark Kincgen went onto state at about the s~me time he heardthe first gunshct.s in the library he remembered "seeing Sfficke. p

Mark Kintgen did describe the smoke as Ilwhite or gray" Ln color.Ma.rk Kincgen was unable to be more specific concerning the smoke interms of whether Qr not ic originated in the li~rary or had driftedin from the hall. Mark Kintgen seated he was certaLn at that pointthe fire alarm was activated.

Mark Kintgen went onto state while the suspects remained onthe west side of the library he heard additional gunshots. MarkKintgen was unable co estimate the number of gunshots but knew cheywere numerous, Mark Kintgen stated he also believed he could"yells or screams,u however, he could not be certain if the- voices

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he Was hearing were students or the suspects. Mark Kintgen didindicate he was certain the "laughing" he heard was coming from thesuspecta.

Mark Kintgen stated almost as soon as the gunshots ended on"he west .ide of the lib~ary he began to hear them an the east sideof the library. Mark Kintgen stated he was certain ne had notheard any gunshots which he believed were coming from the centersection of the library up to chis point. 10 subsequently clarifiedwith Mark Kintgen when the suspects entered the library theyproceeded to the far west section where gunshots were hea~~

following by gunshots erupting in the far east section where he waslocatea. Mark Kintgen reiterated up to this point he had not heardany gunshots in the middle section of the lib~ary.

Mark Kintgen was ~hen asked to describe what occurred as hebegan to hear gunshots on the east $ide of the library. MarkKintgen began his explanation by stating he only actually saw onesuspect on the east side of the library. Mark Kintgen explainedthe suspect he observed at that point was on the norch side of theglass ease near the entrance to the library. Mark Kintgen statedhe WaS certain the suspect then fired at least one shot into theglass case causing the glass eo break. Mark Kinegen explained itwas right aftar the suspect shot out the glass case that he (MarkKintgen) waS shot. Mark Kintgen initially atatad it wag possible~he suspecc had sho~ at him through the glass case t howeve~t he wasnot certain. Mark Kintgen went onto explain that there weremirrors located in the glass case which possibly diato~ted his viewof what was actually occurring. Mark Kintsen related he wascertain the person who had fired into the glass case was the sameperson who shot him adding it was possible the suspect had Steppedback around the glass case prior to fi=inS under his table.

When asked to describe the weapon beins used by the suspectwho sho~ into the glass case and later shot under his table MarkKintgen stated it was the tl.automa:tic ll previously described in thisreport. When asked if that was the same gun which was used toshoot under his ~abl$1 Mark ~ntgen stated he assumed that was thecase, however. was not certain. 10 clarified with Mark Kintgen, hewas able to observe the weapon used by the suspect when tiring intothe glass case, however, he CQuld not be certain as to the weaponused when fired under his table. Mark Kintgen did state he wascertain the person who fired into the glass case was the sameperson who shot at him under the table, As Mark Kintgen continuedto relate his recollection of that incident I he believed thesuspect had stepped around from the glass case prior to shootingunder his table. Mark Kintgen was unable to ~e mora specificconcerning that point. IO did confirm with Mark Kintgen the onlydescription he could give of the suspect whom he saw zhoot into theglass case and later under his table waS consistent with thatperson wearing black boots and black pants.

When asked what occurred at the point he was shot! Mark

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Kintgen stated he believed the suspect had actually fired throughthe chair causing the uwood to splinter." Mark Kintgen told IO hewas uncertain as to how many shots were fired under the table butstated, "!t seemed like it was. all at once .1

1 In respect cc hisinjuries, Mark Kintgen stated he was shot towards ehe left backportion of his head causing the bullet to travel forward. MarkKintgen went onto state he was also shot towards the left centerportion of his neck which exited on the right aide of his neck andthen entered his right shoulder. Mark Kintgen told IO the bulletentering his head was removed during surgery, however, the bulleten~ering his shoulde~ was net removed. IO clarified with MarkKintgen his surgery occurred at Denver Health Medical. MarkKintgen identified his doct.or as "Pr. Witt." to confirmed withMark Kinesen h~ 4eceived twe gunshot injuries during ~his incident.

When aSked why he believed the .u.pect had fired into thetaBle, Mark Kintgen stated when he "wcke up" therewere: »woodsplinters all around,TI Mark Kintgen was unable to be specific interms of whether or noe he believed the suspect fired through achair or the table dur~ng the incident.

When asked to recall what occurred after he was shot, Markkintgen explained he next recalled hearing a male voice state, '100you believe in God?" Mark Kintge.n was. unable to provide anyadditional informa~ion conc~rnin9 that point othe~ than to state heknew the male voice was standing near his location, 10 confirmedwieh Mark Kintsen he was indicating the male vaiee he heard wascoming somewhe~e from the east side of the library.

When asked to describe what occurred next, Mark Kintgen statedhe remembered laying on the floor with his haad pointing in anorthwescerly direction, Mark Kintgen stated at that point he was/lIafraid fl he was goin.9 to "die. Jl Mark Kint.gen told IO he did. notrecall hearing any additional shots fired in the library after hehad been shot. Mark Kintgen $tated after realizing he was lying enthe floor he then remembered seeing one of the girls whom he lateridentified as Upatti Blair" get up from underneath table #3. MarkKinegen related ha .~sequ~ntly told Patti Slair he needed help,however, she did not respond to his requesc. Mark Kintgen statedhe recalled seeing patti Blair walk between the book shelves whichseparated the different sections of the librarz. Mark Kintgenstated at that point he crawled out from under taole #l and walkedbetween the book shelve$ and proceeded west through the libraryattempting to follow Patti Slair.

Pursuant to qUestioning, IO confirmed with Mark Kintgen afterhe was shot his next recollection was hearing the male voice makingreference to Goa after which he realized he was lying on the floorunderneath table #1. When asked if he remembered anything elseprior to seeing patti Blair set up from underneath table #3, MarkKincgen responded in the negative, Ma~k Kintgen told Ie he assumedafter the .uspect. had .hot him they had left ehe library.

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IQ next asked Mark Kintgen to describe what occurred after hebegan to follow Patti Blair west through the library, Mark Kintgenstated he could not recall the specific path of travel he took butdid remember seeing someone lying under the table marked #9. MarkKintgen stated based on that observation he was certain he $om~~ow

walked through t.he center section of the library prier toproceeding north towards the exit. Mark Kintgen next stated as hebegan to proceed nortn through the library (near the computertables) he remembered seeing another individual on the floor atthat location. Mark K~ntgen was unable to be anymore specificconcerning either of the individuals he referenced as he left thelibrary.

Mark Kintgen did state as he was leaving the libra!)' hebelieved he began to see other people also moving through thelibrary towards the north exit. Mark Kinegen stated he eventuallymade his way to the north exit at which poine he observed a markedpatrol unit parked northwest of that location. Mark Kintgenreported he then proceeded towards the marked patrol unit. Ma~k

Kintgen told IO when he arrived at that location he believed therewere approximately 20 to 30 other students present. When aSked ifhe could identify any of those students r Mark Kintgen again madereference to the unidentified female who had originally sat down athis table and then moved. Mark Kintgen clarified he had seen thatsame female hiding behind the marked patrol unit at the time hearrived at that location. Mark Kintgen added he also saw anotherstudent whom he identified as uJosh Lapp." Mark Kint.gen stated hedid not believe he could recall the names of any additionalstudents at that location.

Mark Kintgen estimated he remained behind the marked patrolunit for approximat.ely 10 to 1.5 minutes p:rior to being "evaeuened ."Mark Kintgen briefly described being placed in the trunk of apatrol unit and driven to a nearby neighborhood. Mark Kintgenst.ated at; that point he was transported by uhelicoptli!u:;dl to DenverHealth Medical. Mark Kinegen tOld IO he did not believe he couldrecall any additional information at this time.

IO subsequently obtained a written authorization for releaseof medical records pertaining to Mark Alan Kintgen. The documentindicaces the medical records were be~ng maintained at DenverHealth Medical, ro would note Mark Kintgenls father, Dale Kintgen,signed the ferm authorizing the release of the me~ical records. IOeUb5equen~ly concluded his interview with Mark Kintgen, 10 wouldnote also oresent at, the residence was Michael Kintgen {twinbrother to-Mark Kintgen). It was determined 10 would conduce aninterview with Michael Kintgen in Qrder to expedite theinvestigative process. IO would point out Michael Kintgen was notpresent during the interview ot Mark Kinegen. See the interview ofMichael Kintgen for details.

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Lisa Michelle Kreutz, date of birth January 14, 1981,

, was interviewed at her home in thepresence of her parents, Ken and sheryl Kreutz. After beingadvised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and DianeObbema, Investigator, Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Kreutzfurnished the following information:

Kreutz is a Senior at Columbine High School. Herclass of the day is Trigonometry with Mr. Tank. This classduring second period which runs from 8:25 a.m. to 9:20 a.m.class period is extended an extra five minutes for schoolannouncements to be made. The Rebel News Network is broadcastover televisions within the classrooms. Her class really didn'tpay attention to the announcements on a regular basis. OnApril 20, 1999, Kreutz wasn't really paying attention to theannouncements and does not recall anything that seemed unusual.Period three runs from 9:25 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. During thisperiod, Kreutz has Accounting with Mr. Stoeklen. Her fourthperiod class is Psychology with T.J., last name unknown. Kreutzcouldn't recall the teacher's last name as they all refer to himas T.J. This class runs fram 10:20 a.m. to 11:10 a.m. Fifthperiod, or A lunch, begins at 11:15 a.m. This is Kreutz's lunchperiod and she usually goes to the Library or cut to lunch withJessica Holliday and Bethany Koch. Prior to going to lunch orthe Library, she would typically go to her locker and exchangeschool books.

On April 20, 1999, after fourth period, Kreutz did notgo to her locker to exchange school books. Instead she went tothe Post Graduate Center and picked up an application for theUniversity of Colorado at Denver. She then walked down the hallto the Library. In the Library, Kreutz would usually sit withHolliday, Jenna Park and Dewata Perez on the east side of theLibrary. She entered the Library at approximately 11,15 a.m.Holliday was already in the Library at table U2. Kreutz metPerez and Park in the Library or possibly at or near her locker.Kreutz was in the middle of Park and Holliday on the east side ofthe table #2, facing west. On the west side of the table wasLauren Townsend and Perez. There may have been another girl inthe middle of the west side of the table. At that time, the

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Library was pretty full but Kreutz could not remember seeinganybody else she knew. There are two reading chairs with a smalltable between them, next to table #2 and against the east wall.There may have been someone seated at one of the reading chairs.

A couple of minutes after sitting down, Holliday lefttheir table and went over to the computer area on the west sideof the Library. At about that time, Kreutz heard popping soundscoming from outside the west part of the Library. The soundswere like a hammer striking a wall. Within a minute, a blondehaired student came into the Library and stated, 'Where's MissKeating"? and "He has a gun." Kreutz believed this to be astudent as she appeared too young to be an adult. The studentthen went behind the librarian's counter. Kreutz did not know ifshe should believe what the student said or not and thoughtmay have been another senior prank. A week prior, in a seniorprank the Seniors closed off the Junior Parking Lot.

A couple minutes later, and no more than five minuteslater, a lady came into the Library and said to get under thetables. The students all hesitated and she yelled again to getunder the tables. Right behind this lady was Mr. Place, who cameinto the Library doors and said something to somebody that "wehave to qet these kids out of here." Place then left theLibrary.- Attachment A is a diagram of the Columbine High SchoolLibrary. Kreutz indicated on the diagram the sitting positionsof the students at table #2. Kreutz, Perez, Townsend and Parkall hide underneath their table. Kreutz was sitting unde~ thetable with her knees pulled up to her chest and she was facingnorth. From her position, she could see out a window near hertable into the hallway outside the Library and the area betweenthe trophy case toward the reference table. The window was inthe upper portion of the wall. At that point, Kreutz beganhearing screaming coming from the area she believed to be theCommons. Through the window to the hall outside the Library, shesaw a white male coming toward the Library. He was moving fromsouth to north like he had come from down by the Commons. He washeaded toward the Library and had a determined look on his face.Her view of this person was only from about the shoulders up andshe described him with blonde hair and dressed in dark colors.Kreutz indicated au the Library diagram the approximate locationof the individual in the hallway.

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The door to the Library is always propped open and shecould hear two people coming into the Library. She remembershearing one of the gunmen say to the other one, "Are you stillwith me?" and ilwe're still ganna do this, right?!! After enteringthe Library the gunmen started yelling and moved to the west sideof the Library. She heard one of the ~unrnen say they were goingto "blow up the Library". This statement was followed by anexplosion in the Library. Kreutz began hearing windows breaking,gunfire and lots of screaming. She could not recall specificallyhow much gunfire she heard on the west side of the Library. Shedid hear a statement from one of the gunmen that they hatedschool and that school had messed them up. The fire alarm wentoff during the shooting on the west side of the Library. Park'ssister, a Freshman, was sitting by the computer tables. Parkkept saying that she had to get her sister. Perez had to holddown Park to keep her from leaving the table. Perez told Parkthat Holliday was at the computer table and would take care ofher sister. Kreutz thought the gunmen then moved to the middlesection of the Library as the sounds of gunshots and screams weregetting closer to her. She could not recall any specifics of thegunmen's movement or comments in the middle section.

After what she believes is gunshots in the middlesection, she can hear a gunman moving up around from behind her,back near table #4 and the wall. Townsend and one of the girlswere praying underneath the table. Somebody under the table said"ch my God their coming". At the same time, she can see a gunmanin her view between the trophy case and the reference table. Shesees this gunman only from the chest down but can see a shotgunwith possibly two barrels in his left hand. He was holding thegun down. He was wearing dark clothing and had something overhis shirt or jacket. It was different in color than his shirtand appeared to cross over his chest and then ever his shoulder.The girls had pulled the chairs in around the table and her viewwas being blocked. Kreutz then hears a gunshot and was grazed inher right wrist by a bullet. Kreutz remembers thinking at thatpoint that it didn't really hurt to be shot. She believes it wasthe gunman that she saw between the refence table and trophy casethat shot ac her table.

TO her right she saw Val Schnuur falling to the ground.Schnuur may have been running or crawling away from the gunmanthat was moving up behind their cable. Schnuur had gotten shot

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and Kreutz could see her holding her side. Schnuur was screamingand then Kreutz heard a gunman from behind her ask Schnuur if shebelieved in God. The gunman asked it again and she recallsSchnuur answering back "no." At that point, Schnuur was layingon the ground next to table #2 on the east side. The gunman mayhave shot Schnuur again. In the course of this questioning ofSchnuur or just at the completion of it, Kreutz got shot severaltimes. Kreutz does not know if the shooting carne from the gunmanbehind her or the gunman she saw by the trophy case. Kreutz gotshot in the left shoulder, right wrist, right ankle and a shotthrough the buttock which also goes somehow through her innerthigh. Kreutz cannot recall if Townsend was shot at the sametime she was or was shot just prior to her. After the ~Jnshots,

she could see Townsend laying down on the floor 'gasping" withone of the other girls holding her. The two guns that had beenshot at her table sounded different. Kreutz did not think thegunmen were really aiming their guns. She thought they were justshooting without aiming at anyone.

After being Shot, Kreutz does not remember if there wasmore gunfire and explosions within the Library. She doesremember Schnuur moving from her spot, as Kreutz could no longersee her. After a period of no longer than ten minutes, theLibrary got really quiet. Kreutz did not see the gunmen leavethe Library. Kreutz heard something, possibly gunshots, thatgave her the impression that the gunmen were gone from theLibrary. The gunmen had been gone a long enough period of timethat the students felt that they were not coming back to theLibrary. Park and Perez got up and tried to get Kreutz to leavewith them. Kreutz was unable to leave with them. Kreutzbelieves Park and Perez went through the booKcases by table #1and exited out that side of the Library. Kreutz saw a number ofstudents get up and leave. After the students had left theLibrary, Kreutz was laying down under her table and heard theschool bell ring. This was the 11:45 bell, which meant her lunchperiod was over. The fire alarm was still going off at thattime.

Kreutz remembers another girl crawling up and layingher head down by her. The girl had blonde hair. Kreutz did notknow the girl. Kreutz continued to lay under her table and heardthe 11:50 a.m. bell and then the 12:10 and 12:15 p.m. bells.These bells meant that the ".'\'''a dn "B" lunches were over. Kreutz

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continued to listen to the various bells for the class periods gooff. The bells were how she kept track of time.

Kreutz heard a helicopter flying around outside theschool and ~~ew the police were outside the school. Kreutzremembers hearing two to three explosions in the Library whilethe gunmen were inside the Library. She heard another explosionin the Library or outside the Library after all the students hadgotten up and left the Library. She also remembers hearing glassbreaking again and someone say something to the effect of "heyyou in the Library." She doesn't remember when, but she heardpolice officers yelling from an area she thought was outside thesouth windows of the Library.

Kreutz believes she was conscious the whole time shewas laying under the table in the Library. She wasn't reallypaying attention and was mostly looking at the top of the table.She knew her wrist was broken and she couldn't move either of herarms. She remembers hearing the 2:30 p.m. bell ring as it justkept on ringing. A couple of times she did try to get up andleave the Library. She tried once before the 2:30 bell to get upand leave, but got "light headed". After trying to get up, shegot back down underneath her table. She believes she tried againafter the 2:30 bell and ended up laying down then between tables#1 and #2.

Kreutz remembers later hearing the gunmen talking inthe Library or outside the Library. The voices sounded furtheraway but she laid very still, pretending to be dead. She didn'twant the shooting to start allover again. She does recallsomebody coming back into the Library while she was lying downbut does not recall any details.

After trying to get up and leave follOWing the 2:30bell, she remembers hearing the police yelling. The yelling wasin the hallway from outside the Library and the sounds soundedlike they were in a hurry. She heard them come in and she calledfor help. One of the SWAT officers came over to her. Thisofficer told her she was the only one alive in the Library. Theydid not take her immediately out of the Library and one SWATofficer stayed with her. The next thing she remembers is aparamedic coming in and talking to her about whether she washurt. ~~e paramedic rolled her onto her shoulder to look at her

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back and she remembers excruciating pain, She was put on a boardand reme~bers hearing the officer saying they had to get her outof there in a hurry.

Kreutz does remember the glass bookcase/trophy caseshattering. She does not remember when this occurred. It mayhave been caused by the SWAT team.

Kreutz has a navy blue Eddie Bauer backpack which sheleft on top of the table. Inside the backpack are a graphingcalculator, her wallet, two sets of car keys and school papers,including folders. She would like to get one set of the car keysback as those are the only two sets of keys for her car. Hergrandfather had to pay a locksmith to help them get the car outof ,the school parking lot. Kreutz had been transferringinformation from her application to University of Colorado atDenver to a new application. She was recopying it to make itmore legible. There was a $40 check for admission fees with theapplication.

Kreutz' locker is in the Math hall area and is locker#480, #180 or something in the eighties. She had nothingvaluable in her locker except books and papers. Attachment B isa diagram of Columbine High School. Kreutz indicated on thediagram the location of her locker,

Kreutz remembers a paramedic taking off her Eyore watchand throwing it into her shoes. She was also wearing jewelry,inoluding her class ring and a birthstone ring. Kreutz wouldlike to get back her watch and two rings.

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LAKEWOOD POLlCE DEPARTMENTSUPPLEMENTAL REPORT

f>-EPORTING AGENT: GreenwellVICTIM: Nielson, patriciaJFFENSE: AOA-J.C.S,D,IHomicide

WITNESS LIST:

CASE NUMBER: 99·038856DATE OF REPORT: 04-27.99

Agent M. Greenwell

LPD Investigations Division

assigned victim/witness interviews;

NIELSON, Patricia K.

victim of shooting;

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008: 12·06·63

OBSERVATION/INVESTIGATION:

ln Tuesday, 04·20·99, atapprox. 1240 hrs., I wassent toAdventist PorterHospital· Littleton, to interview victims

and witnesses of the shooting at Columbine High SchooL Whileat the hospltai, 1interviewed a victimfrom the

shooting, Patricia K. NIELSON.

Ms. Nielson told me she was standing in the north corridorhall, doing her assigned "hall duty", at approx. 1120

hrs., when she saw a male student, on the west end of the hall, carrying what she thought was a gun into the

school. Ms.Nielson said she was taken by surprise and asked anothermale studentwalking past her whatwas

goingon. Ms. Nielson said the studenttold her the studentwas probably"..shooting a movie",and that the gun

wasprobablya capgun used asa propin themovie. Ms.Nielson said the unknown malestudent shewas talking

with said the studentshe sawwiththe gunwas with thevideoproductions class. Ms. Nielson saidshedidn't think

itwas right. cap gun or not, thathe haveit at school, so shewent to confrontthe student. Ms.Nielson saidas she

walked through a set of double doors where thestudent was, the student began firing the gun. Ms. Nielson said

the student tl1en turned and sawher, looked right her, and shot at her andthe male student she was with. Ms

Nielson said the bullet traveled past her and hil the glass in the door behind her and some of the glass, or a

fragment from the bullet, hit her In the back of the shoulder. Ms. Nielson saidshe yelled "Dear God! DearGod!

Dear Gdd!"and turnedwith the malestudentshe waswith,whenshe heardthe malestudent say,"Uhhhhh!" Ms.

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Nielson said she saw the student had been shot in the back and they continued \0 run Ihe opposite way and ran

into the library. As she ran into the library, Ms. Nielson said she began screaming for help tor the student and

ran 10the phone and dialed "9911" (she had to dial9 first 10dial911 to get an outside line). Ms. Nieison said Ms.

Keeting, the librarian, and Mr. lawn (unk. spelling), came in and told everyone to get out of the library. As she

was on the phone, Ms. Nieison said she could hear the gunman getting closer, so she told the students to get

under the tables, while she stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher. Ms. Nielson said the dispatcher asked

her if she could get to the doors to lock them and Ms. Nielson told Ihe dispatcher she couldn'l. At this time, Ms.

Nielson said something made her aware there were more tnan two gunmen, but didn't know what it was. Ms.

Nielson heard a great deal of gunshots and "hooting rt up" from the suspect, so she continued to tell the students

to stay under the tables. As Ms. Nielson was able to determine the gunmen were coming into the library, she did

not want the gunmen to know she was on the phone with 911, so she left the phone on the floor and crawled up

as far under the librarian's desk as she COUld. Me Nielson said she saw the gunmen walk past where she was

and they stopped and she saw they both had on black milllery type pants, Ms, Nieison said she heard someone

crying and say, "Oh Godl" and one of the gunmen asked her, "Do you believe in God?" and began calling her

"...awful and hateful names!" Ms. Nielson said she then heard a lot more gunfire and they walked around by her

desk again. While standing in front of the desk she was under, Ms, Nielson said one of them stopped and said,

"Wait a minute! One more thing!" and she heard a chair being smashed on top of the desk she was under, After

the noises stopped, Ms. Nielson said she looked around the end of the desk and saw a student wearing a pair of

tennis shoes and wondered if the student was alive or dead. Ms Nielson said she crawled into the library's

workroom and saw two women, one wearing a purple dress, hiding in another room off the workroom, Ms. Nielson

said she then crawled Inside a cupboard and shut the doors, Ms, Nielson added, she stayed in the cupboard for

approx, three hours, and recalls II was approx. 1145 When she crawled inside the cupboard. While in the

cupboard, Ms. Nielson said she heard a lot of gunfire coming from the library area again and heard the beeping

of What she thought 10be bombs, Ms. Nielson said she stayed in the cupboard and remembered seeing the lady

in the purple dress came in the workroom and checked on Ms. Nielson. Ms. Nielson added, she also remembers

laking her sweater off, while in the cupboard, because she was so hot. Ms Nielson said she heard Ihe suspect's

saying they were going 10blow the library up, but she could not get out for fear of being shot, After being in the

cupboard for approx three hours, Ms. Nielson said she heard the temale in the purple dress Whispering, "Pattyl

Patty! Come on!", and she saw another subject, Kent Freizen (spelling unknown) came tram the other side of the

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CASE NUMBER: 99-038856DATE OF REPORT: 04.27.99

room. Ms. Nielson said she and others from the iibrary were escorted outside by police personnel, ran out to So.

Pierce St., where she was treated fur the injury to her shoulder. Ms. Nielson added, she recatls carrying her

sweater out of the library, but dropped it on the steps ieading out of the library, so her sweater should stili be on

the steps.

Ms. Nielson was treated by Dr. E. Eby and her injuries were photographed by an Arapahoe County Crime Lab.

Technician. Ms. Nielson was treated for an injury to the back of her right shoulder area, an abrasion on her right

forearm, and a bruise/contusion to her left knee. Ms. Nielson was released from the hospital the same day. Ms.

Nielson was joined at the hospital by her husband, Shane Nielson, at me hospital and a Douglas County S.O.

Victim Advocate.

On Thursday, 04-22-99, I contacted Ms. Nielson, by telephone, at home. Ms. Nielson was improving and asked

a lot of questions about what happened in me library. I did nat know the answers to any of the questions she had,

nd referred her to J. C.S.D.. Ms. Nielson had no additional information to offer from the original interview at the

hospital.

No additional information at this time.

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On 04-30-99 at about 1125 00., this Investigator responded to 2168 S. Field Way andcontacted:

NIELSON, PATRICIADOB: 12·06-63

Present during the interview was Nielson's sister, Christie Sanders, who is a PublicDefender in JeffersonCounty. Also present was:

HOLLINGSWORTH, DAVIDM, MSWLicensed Clinical SocialWorker777 S. Wadsworth(303) 969-9192

Hollingsworth waspresenton behalfofNielson.

Nielson related class was out at 1110 hrs, She took some books with her and went to thelibrary. The exact time she arrived is unknown, but it was possiblyaround 1120 to 1130hrs. She had hallduty near the Library.

Nielson was watching the north corridor. Some kids said they heard gunfire. There wasanother kid in the hallway, identi:fied as Brian Anderson. Nielson looked down the halland saw a subject with his backto them.

Nielson thought they were probably making a video production. Suspect number one wasshooting and she saw some smoke. Nielson related she decided to go out and stop this.She did not think it was a realgun.

The suspect then turns towards Nielson and points the gun at them. He smiles. Thesuspect shoots and the glass in the door goes out. Initially Nielson thought that it waspossibly a BB gun until she looked at the door and saw the size of the hole, Nielsonthought, "Oh dear God," Nielson turned around to get out of the area and then there wasa second shot. She saw Anderson lurch and she felt a burningsensationinher shoulder.

Nielson went to the door across the hall. She subsequently ran into the library along withAnderson. Nielson was yelling whenshe went into the library. She yelled, "Help, there isa kid with a gun. We havebeenshot."

Whenshe went in the library, there were kids all around. She yelled fur someone to call91L Nielsondid not see another adult inside. She thought to herself, where isMs

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Keating? Rich Long then came out and told everyone to get out of the library. He thenran into the balIway.

Nielsoncould hear gun fire out in the ball. She went to the phone at the servicedesk Sheyelled to the kids to get down beforecalling 91L Theygot under the tables. She told 911that a kid had been shot.

Peggy Dodd, a library assistant came running out. She grabbed three kids and crawledinto tbe magazine room. Nielson had the phone down on the desk. When Nielson firstcalled 911, she was standing. The dispatcher asked Nielson to close the doors.

Nielsoncould not see any shooters outside, however, she heard gunfire. Nielson thoughtshe was far to vulnerable ifshe attemptedto close the doors. Besides she thought she didnot have keysto the library.

A kid came and went under the table near her. However she remembers there wassomething under the table and he was a large kid. Nielson decided she would hidunderneath. The large kid was wearing a jacket or shirt that had red or maroonon it.

Nielson got down when the really loud gun fire goes off. When she was down, she stillyelled at the kids even though she couldnot see them. The suspects came into the library,however, she could not see them. She took the phone cord and pulled it underneath.Nielson thought that if they see her on the phone, they would shoot her, so she droppedthe phone.

At about 1205 hrs., a. person arrived at the Nielson home and entered. After a briefdiscussion with Nielson and Hollingsworth, Nielson decided to stop the interview. Theperson Who entered the home is identified as:

JUARE.Z, SUZZIEWork Phone: 982-5967HomePhone: 432-4262

Prior to stopping the interview, the discussion between Juarez,Hollingsworth and Nielsonwas in regards to having an attorney present for Nielson before she continued. They alsodiscussed the up coming tour a.t Chatfield High School. Nielson and Hollingsworthindicated it would be best if they stopped so she could attend the tour. Therefore, theinterview was terminated.

On the evening of 04-30-99, this Investigator telephoned Hollingsworth. He related thatNielsonwanted to continuethe interview. It was determined we would meet on Monday,05-03-99 at 1100 brs. to concludethe interview.

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On 05-03-99 at about 1100 brs., this Investigator returned to the Nielson residence toconclude the interview. Present for this interview wereSanders and Hollingsworth.

Nielson related while in the library, the phonewas underneath her. She also relatedthat itwas Eric Harris who shot her. In regards to the suspects, whentheycame in, Nielson sawtheirfeet. She heard them talk to eachother and to other people. When askedhow manysets offeet she saw, she said two.

Nielson believes that one kid stood up to them in the library. The person said, "That'senough" ina confrontational voice. Thepersonreplied, "Oh, whatdowe havehere." Sheheard the word Niggerused andthensheheard themshootsomeone.

Nielson heard someoneyeD, "Oh God, Oh God" and the person replied, "Do you believeinGod? Thestudent replied, "Yes." Nielson indicated she could not see the shooters, sheco~ just hear them.

When it was all over, Nielson thought therewasmore killedin there. She statedthere wasso many bullets. The boy next to her was unknown to Nielson. She was told later byDeanKris Mikesell that it was possibly Evan underthe desk.

This Investigator asked Nielson if she ever heard the statement by the shooters that aperson could leave, she stated she does not remember hearing that statement. Thesuspects did relate they were going to blow this b"brary up. They were yelling at thepeople.

WhenNielson finally left, she couldn't see if anyone remained. This Investigator askedNielson if she knew anex-student by the nameo~ she said no. She alsorelatedwhenshe wasstanding up, shedid not see~the hallway in front of thelibrary. She relatedthere wasa tot ofnoise inthe room.

At one point, the shooters called someone "Fat boy." They yelled at him. She heard oneperson say, "Do what ever you want with that one." At another point, the suspectswalked rightpast Nielson, She was sitting under the counteron her rear end with her legscrouched up.

When they walked past her, they both bad black pants on which were tucked in theirboots. As they walked past her, one said, "Wait, there is one more thing." He stood infront of where she was. He picked up a chair and he slammed it on top of the counteraboveher head.

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Nielson relatedwhen he stepped back, she saw his black pants and they were tucked inhisboots. After slamming the chair, the person said, "Let's get down to the commons:' Sheremembers a livebullet was on the carpet in front of her.

After they left, Nielsonpeaked up over the counter and she saw a pair of white tennisshoes under one of the tables. When she looked up there was DO movement. Nielsondoes not remember seeing the kid next to her whenshe left.

Nielson crawled straight into the room in back of her. She crawled iaro a cupboard andstayedthere for the next threehours. She lookedat her watch and it was 1145 hrs, whenshe went in.

After she was in the cupboard fur a long time, she heard someone in the room. As theywalked by, she saw a purple dress. She opened the door and saw two women who sheidentified as Lois and Carol. Sheasked them ifthey knew ifthe suspects had beencaught.Theydid not know. At around 1300 hrs., Lois and Carol leave the roam. Nielson stayedin the room in the cupboard.

Within minutes of Lois and Carol leaving, there "'115 some more gunfire, The gunfire wasveryclose. She described it as being a small short burst. Nielson believed the shootershad found Lois and Carol and shot them. Later after it was all over, Lois and Carol toldNielson they thought just the opposite. Theybelieved the shootersfound Nielson and shother.

About two hours after this burst of gunfire, Lois and Carol came back out. At somepoint, Nielson heard the sound of glass breaking out. She realizes now that it wasprobably Patrick Ireland getting out the window. When she heard the sound of breakingglass, there were no sounds ofgunfire.

Nielsonremembers bearing a continuos beeping sound. She learned later that if the firealarm remainson for a certain length of time, it begins to beep. She believes the beepingsound went on for about an hour.

Nielson remained in the cupboard. She heard people in the area again. Suddenly thecupboard opened and it was Lois. She said, "Patty are you still in there?" Theyyelled ather to corneon. Theyallwent out the front door and she did not look around.

When Nielson left the library, she left through the counter door. SWAT was in thehallway. They were told that the suspects had not been apprehended yet and the buildingwasfull ofbombs. KentFriesen, a science teacherwas with them at that point and he wasveryupset. He relatedDaveSanderswas hurt bad.

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They all went downstairs, where they waited on the platform. \Vhen it was clear, theywent out the back door of the cafeteria. Prior to going out, they waited fur anotherteacher, AI Cram. They were told not to touch the backpack by the door. Once outside,theywereput in the backofa police car.

It was 1500 to 1545 hrs., when they got out. She was inside for about fuur hours.Nielson indicates it was EricHarris who shot her and BrianAnderson. Nielson related shesawhislace. Thenfromthe laces on television, Harris seemsto fit the personshooting atthem.

Nielson also related that Brian Anderson ID Harris dJrect1y. This Investigator askedNielson how she knew that. She indicated Anderson told Peggy Dodd, "Eric Harrisfucking shot me Peggy."

Nielson describedthe suspect in the hallway which shot her and Anderson as follows:

Black pants, tucked in the boots. He waswearing a blacktrenchcoat. Underneath the coat, possibly wearingsomething white, the coat was open. He was wearing eithera beret or stalking hat. He was definitely not wearing amask. She is positive of that. His left band was extendedand hisright band was back.

This Investigator asked Nielson if she could have seen a baseball hat that was onbackwards. She relatedshe has inher head that it was a blackberethe waswearing.

This Investigator asked Nielson while she was in the library, did she ever smell smoke.Shesaid yes. lnitill.lly she thought it was the police throwing in tear gas. When she was inthe cupboard, a long time went by, then she heard what she thought was a single bomb.PerNielson, that was it. Therewas no further gunfire or bombs after that.

Nielson did complete two drawing, oneof the library and one oftheirescape route.

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On OS/21/99 Detective Soacright (!Ol was assigned DN #4950re~~esting he contact and interview Patricia Nielson. Within thenarrative of the lead l 10 was informed Patricia Nielson had beeninjured by gunfire in the north hallway, after whicn she enteredthe library and sUbsequently placed a 911 call to the JeffersonCounty SheriffJs Office. Patricia Nielson reportedly remained inthe library until she was evacuated by members of the SWAT team.10 was requested to interview Patricia Nielson for the purpose ofgathe~ins additional information related to this investigation.

On OS/25/99 at approximately 0840 hours IO met with PatriciaNielsQn at the Jefferson County Hall of Justice. At the time 10met with the aforenamed, she was in the company of her husband,Shane Nielson, her sister Christy Sanders and her therapistidentified as David M. Hollingsworth, MSW. All of the aforenamedindividuals were present for the purpose of supporting PatriciaNielson during the interview. For purposes of clarification,Christy sanders is employed through the State of Colorado PublicDefenders Office, IO confirmed wiCh Christy Sanders she was simplyacting as a support system for her sister and was not there on anyofficial capacity,

Upon contact with Patricia Nielson {AKA Patty Nielson), IOverified her date of birth as l2/06/63 and she resides at ......

IOfurther verified with Patty Nielson she is employed at ColumbineHigh School as an art teacher.

IO next requested patty Nielson provide an account of her~ctivities on 04/20/99 beginning at the time she arrived at school.Patty Nielson explained as was normally the case, she arrived atschool at approximately 0145 hours, parking in the northeastteachers lot off of Pierce Street. Pat~y Nielson explained herfirst period class is free and she normally uses that for"planning,« 10 verified with Patty Nielson after parking her carin the northeast teachers lot, ihe then ente~ed the school via themain ease entrance and subsequently responded back to the jewelryrOom. 10 would note the aforementioned room is locacad in thenor~heast area of the school, According to Patty Nielson, uponarriving at school th~ough the first hour class, she did not makeany observations which she considered to be unusual.

Patty Nielson indicated her second period class began atap?roxima~ely 0820 hours and concluded at approximately 0915 hours.Patty Nielson related her s~cond period class is taught in the"jewelry room" which is the same location previously described inthlS report. When asked if anything unusual occurred during hersecond period class, Patty Nielson responded in the affirmative.Patty Nielson recalled during second perioQ, one of her studentsidentified as "Brit.t.any Gillett.e" (spelling provided by Nielson)

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made the statement, "Hey Mrs. Nielson. did you know it was AdolphHitler's birthday?" Patty Niel.son stated she was not aware of thatfact and other than to acknowledge Brittany Gillette's comment,there was no additional discussion concerning that peint. PattyNielson stated she did not know whether that comment was relevantto the investigation but felt it should be reported.

Patty Nielson reported she then taught her third period classwhich begins at approximately 0920 hours and concludes atapproximately 1015 hours. Patty Nielson stated her third periodclass is taught in the lldrawing room ll which is located in the samegeneral area as the jewelry room. patty Nielson stated she did notrecall any unusual events during third period class.

In ~aspect to her fourth hour class, Patty Nielson stated itbegan at approximately 1020 hours and concluded at approximacely1110 hours. Pa~ty Nielson indicated her fourth period class istaught back in the jewelry room and aha did not recall anyadditional events which she considered to be unusual,

Patty Nielson explain~d on a no~al day, she would have beenllfinished for the dayH at the conclusion of he.:::: fourth periodclass. Patty Nielson stated as part of her assigned duties as ateacher at Columbine High School, she is required to perform llhallduty, If Patty Nielson explained on this particular date, she hadmade arrangements to crade her hall duty with Rudy Martin and as aresult, was scheduled to work "A lunch" in the north hall while heras s i qnment; during uS Lunch" was to work the "south hall. it IOclarified with Pat~y Nielson had it not been for her hall dutyassignment chat oate l she would have left columbine Hi9h Schoolshortly after the conclusion of her fourth period class. 10further verified with Patty Nielson the reason she changed hallassignments with Rudy Martin was to becter accommodate herschedule.

When asked to explain her responsibilities when performinghall duty, Patty Nielson stated her primary responsibilities are tokeep the halls "quiet II and prevent students frQm simply »wander Lnqthe halls. II Patty Nielson stated .she is also requested to monitoreuvcencs who would pos$ibly gather in the halls or try to tI sneakfood" into various parts of the school, Patty Nielson stated shedid not recall having any serious problems when performing hallduty in the past.

According to Patty Nielson, she began her hall ducy on thatdate around the t.Lme IlA Lurrch" started {approximately 1115 hours) ,Pa~ty Nielson ~xplained during the course of performing her hall

duty in the ~orth hall, she began walking west and recalled beinsjust east of the wese entrance/exit {main level) when specificevents pertaining to this investigation began. Patty Nielsonreiterated she was standing just east of the west entrance/exit inthe north hall when she noticed Brian Anderson, a scudent,

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passing her location. It was at approximately that sarne time sheheard a unoise ll (unable to be more specific) which ca.used her tolook outside ehe west entrance/exit. Patty Nielson stated at ehatpoint she observed a white male (possible student) standing outsidethe west entrance/exit near the north library emergency exit door.Patty Nielson explained at the time she aid not recognize thestudent and initially only saw him from behind, Patty Nielsonstated during her initial observation of the student, she noted hewas wearing a j'black trench coat" with either a "bexet. or blackstocking cap" on his head. Patty Nielson statea when making thatobeerve t.Lcn , she also noted that "smoxe" appeared to be rlrising lf

around the area where that individual was standing.

Patty Nielson related at the point she was making the aboveobservation, Brian #~derson commented that the person she justdescribed must be involved in some type of video production and wagin possession of what was believed to be a "cap gun.~ PattyNielson stated when hearing Brian Anderson's explanation of theevent, she recalled thinkins she did not see a video crew and feltthe studen~'$ behavior was inappropriate, particularly as itpertained to the simulation of weapons on $chool prope~ty. ~atty

Nielson pointed out it was irrelevant whether or not the studentwas involved in a video project she still considered the behaviorvery inappropriate.

Patty Nielson stated at that point she began walking west downthe north hall after which she passed through the first set ofdoors leading outside the school. IO would note at that locationthe~e are two sets of doors separated by what could be described asa vestibule area. !O clarified with Patty Nielson she had passedthrough the first set of doors and was still proceeding westboundin an effort to contact the student. Patty Nielson furtherclarified that as she proceeded in the manner indicated, BrianAnderson accompanied her and was walking to her left {south).

Patty Nielson related just after she and Brian Anderson hadwalked throu9h the first set of doors, the student she previouslydescribed turned and looked back in her direction. According toPatty Nielson, this student was originally facing a somewhatsoutherly direction as she began to approach his location< AsPatty Nielson continued with her explanation, she noced once thesuspecc had turned and looked in her direction, she remembered heusmiled." pacey Nielson seated at that point the suspect leveleda long firearm in her direction and subsequently fired the weapon.When asked to describe the individual who fired the weapon in herdirection, Patty Nielson responded she believed it was llEricHarris.~ 10 confirmed with patty Nielson she based thatidentification from photographs she had seen of Eric Harris vianews footase. Patty Nielson was again asked to describe theindividual who fired the weapon i~ her direction. Patty Nielsonclarified the individual who fired the weapon in her direction wasthe person she had previously described. Patty Nielson did

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indicate she made additional observations of that individual as shemoved closer to his location. When asked to provide thoseadditional detail$, pat~y Nielson stated in addition to how shepreviously described the individual, she now knew he was wearing~lblack pancs" which were « t ueked into black boots. n Patty Nielsonstated the weapon which she observed the individual holdingappeared to be a «rifle l' style firearm. In addieion, Patty Nielsondescribed the weapon as being black in color ~~d pointed out shadid not recall seeing any type of wood stock on the weapon. PattyNielson related when the weapon was fired in her direction, itappeared as though the butt of the rifle was against the suspect'sshoulder. patty Nielson indicated she could not provide additionalinformation related to the suspect or weapon description.

When asked if she made any other observations prior to thesuspect firing the weapon, patty Nielson responded in theaffirmative. Patty Nielson stated as she approached the suspect'slocation, she saw what she believed were twO female students seatedagainst the north lib~ary wall area. IO clarified with PattyNielson she was referring to a location outside the west en~ranCe

doors which would have actually been to the south of the doors.For purposes of clarification, when ref~rring to that location, itwould be accurate to also refer to it as the north exterlor librarywall. IO further verified with Patty Nielson the two unidentifiedfemale students would have been located in between the westentrance/exit and the north library emergency exit door. Whenasked if it appeared as though either of those students had beeninj ur-ed , Patey Nielson ae.e e ed she wa.s uncertain. patty Nielsonpointed out the event she previously described happened veryquickly, thus her observations were limited.

Patty Nielson was next asked to describe what occurred at thepoint the suspect fired in her direction. patty Nielson statedwhen the suspect fired the first shot; it penetrated the south sideex~erior door. Specifically Patty Nielson was refer~ing to theglass window which is attached to the door. IO confirmed withPatty Nielson ahe was describing the far left doer (window) as shewas facing west. Patty Nielson stated almose immediately upon thatfirst shot being fired~ both she and Brian Anderson began to turnaround in an effort to flee the area. Patty Nielsen s~ated it wasac that point she heard the second shot fired. Patty Nielsonstated when hearing the second shot, she saw Brian And.erson Ilarchback and throw up his handa , II after which the afe-renamed fell tothe ground. Patty Nielson $tate~ Brian k~der6on was still locatedto her south at the point he appeared to have been shot. PattyNielson stated she could not be specific in terms of what directionB~ian Anderson was facing when he was shot but believed both werein the process of turning around which would have caused them tothen be facing in an easterly direction, Patty Nielson went on toscate it: was at this same time she was '1grazed ll by what shebelieved was a bullet. Patty Nielson stated the injury shereceiv~d from being "grazed" was to the right shoulder area.

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Patty Nielson stated after being "grazed I " she realized BrianAnderson had fallen down to all fours after which she dropped downto her knees and began crawling. Patty Nielson clarified both sheand Brian Anderson were crawling in an easterly direction towardsthe second set of doors which enter directly into the school.Patty Nielson indicated she along with Brian Anderson waresuccessful in crawling to the door farthest north an~ subsequentlymade entry to the school. Patty Nielson did point out neither sheor Brian ~~erson were able to COmpletely open the door when makingentry.

Patty Nielson staceQ once entry was made into the school{north hallway area), both she and Brian Anderson got up to theirfeet and r~~ to the librarf. Patty ~ielsQn stated at that pointshe assumed the suspect who was firing the weapon was followingthem into the school, Patty Nielson stated at the poine theya~rived at the entrance to the library, she began to hearadditional gunshots, Patty Nielson was unable to be more spec~fic

concerning those gunshots, IO would note, Patty Nielson wasprovided with diagrams to assist in her description of thisincident.

Fatty Nielson stated when she entered the librar!, sheremembered announcing, "HeIp , there' a a kid with a gun, we've beenshot." patt.y Nielson reported. at that point. she did look backtowards the hallway to see if she was being followed hy the suspectand remembered seeing students moving in the hallway but she couldnot identify chern, Patty Nielson related she again announced,II There , 9 a kid with a gun, rl after which she asked for the locationof "Ms. Keating. 1I Patty Nielson described as she made the abovestatements, she was moving west thro~gh the library past the maineoun~er, Patty Nielson stated it was possible at ehac point shebegan telling scuctenee in the library to "get: dcwn.«

Patty Nielson stated as she passed by the main counter in thelibrary (going west), she remembered seeing a fellow faculty member{Rich Long} come out from a north hallway area located in thelibrary. patty Nielsen was referring to an areA which had roomslocated down the hall which ultimately led to the north emergencyexit door, Patty Nielson related when she observed Rich Long, sherecalled he was yelling, IIGatt out of the li-bra:J;y, l' Patty Nielsonstated based en her recollection, she believed Rich Long proceededeast through the library and exited out into the hallway, PattyNielson related she was not: certain as to specific activityinvolvin9 students who remained in the library at that point.Pursuant to questioning, Patty Nielson could not racall if anyoneelse exited the library at that time.

Patty Nielson seated after going around ~he west side of themain ccunte~, she remembered Brian .~dersan passing by her as shewen~ to So use the phone. IO would note the aforementioned phone

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is located behind the main counter in the liQrary. !O furtherclarified with Patty Nielson, Brian Anderson baa also gone aroundthe main counter from the west side.

Patty Nielson related when she reached the phone, sheremembered dialing "9911. H patty Nielson stated the reason shedialed the first nine was to ensure that she gee an outside line.Patty Nielson staced as she dialed the phone, she rememberedtelling herself she needed to "stay calm, It Patty Nielson indicatedthe only othe~ recollection she had at that moment was standingbehind the counter (holding the phonel looking out into thelibrary. Patty Nielson stated she did remember seeing Peggy Doddcoming from somewhere to the west of her location. Patty Nielsonstated she further recalled Peggy Dodd was tjs.taying low tl to thepoine where the aforanamed eventually began llcrawling," paceyNie~son re~ated she subsequently lost sight of peggy oodd and didnot know where she had gone. At that point IO played a 26 minutetape of the 911 oall the forenamed plaoed On 04/20/99 ataPP~oximately 1127 hours. Once the tape was reviewed, PattyNielson did indicate it appeared to be accurate in terms of herrecollection of the incident.

Patty Nielson stated moments after dialing 119911, f' she madecontact with whom she now identified as a Jefferson CountySheriff!s Department dispatcher. pe99Y Dodd reiterated sheattempted to stay calm so she could explainehe situation which wasoccurring at Columbine High School. Patty Nielson seated sherecalled providing the dispatcher with the basic information whichincluded the fact there was a student on the premises who wasfiring a weapon. Patty Nielson sta~ed as she continued to spea~

with the dispatcher and provide information to assist the deputiesresponding, she began to hear gunshots and yelling which sounded a~

though it was coming closer to the li~ra~/. patty N~elson statedshe was certain the gunshots and yelling were now coming from thehallway Qutside the library bue poin~ed out she could not seeanyone at that point. IO confirmed with patty Nielson from thepoi~t she was at, she could see out into the hallway, however, he~

visibility was limited based on tha configuration of the doorwayand one wkndow (located to the south, which faced out into thehall.

Patty Nielson related about that time she remembexed seeingsmoke begin to enter the library. Patty Nielson explained thesmoke rOSe up towards the ceiling as it began to enter the libraryfrom the hall. patty Nielson xelaeed at that point. it was herbelief the hallway had become filled with smoke. When asked todescribe the smoke, patty Nielson stated it could best be describedas :'dark and cloudy. II

Patty Nielson indicated at the point she began to see smckeent.e.rLnq t.he librarYt she then "got down on the floor.11' pattyN~elscn went on to scate at the point she got down on the floor,

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she was etill in contact with the Jefferson Councy Sheriff's Officedispatcher and remembered yelling to the students present in thelibrary. When asked what she was yelling at that cime, PattyNielson stated she believed she was telling the students to staydown. Patty Nielson indicated one of the main reasons shecontinued to yell out. to the students was she wanted to Ilreassurethem somebody was doing something."

IO confirmed with PAtty Nielsen up to this point she had beenadvising Jefferson County Sheriff's Office dispatchers of thesituation, specifically that she was now present in the library andshe had seen a student firing a weapon. In addition, Patty Nielsonindicated the Jefferson County Sher~ff's Office dispatch wasfurther advised there were injuries as a result of the shooting.Patty Nielson went on to state as she was speaking with thedispatcher shortly after the 911 contact was made, she clarifiedshe had continued eo instruct studencs to stay down under thetables. Patty Nielson stated she also bel~eved sha had informedthe dispatcher One suspect had entered the school and was in thehallway outside the library.

Patty Nielson went on to state approximately two minutes intothe 9~1 calli she began to hear additional gunshots or explosionswhich she now knew were taking place righc cucside the library.Patty Nielson clarified up to this poine i~ was her belief therewas only one suspect involved in the shootinS.

Patty Nielson stated a shore time later she began to thinkthere was possibly more than one suspect. When asked to elaborate,Patty Nielson explained beeed on the ltyellingH and -vcdces" she washearing directly outside the library entrance, she began toconclude there was more than one suspect. Patty Nielson stated sheeould not recall any specific statements made by the suspects atthat time but remembered thinking she was hearing more than onevoice and more than one person II yelling .1\ Patey Nielson explainedas she continued to hear shots and possible explOsions cut in thehall, she continued to caution studencs in the libra~y to ~stay

down or stay on the floor." Patty Nielson further recalled duringthis time frame providing the di$patcher with a 5uspeotdescription. patey Nielson then told IO when she was describingthe suspect to the dispatcher I she remembered she was only thinkingthere was one individual involved. patty Nielson stated after shehad described the suspect to the dispatcher, it was at that pointshe began to think that there were possibly two suspects involvedfor the reasons seated above,

Patty Nielson next told IO there was either a loud gunshot orexplosion directly outside the library which she recalled occurredjusc se~ands before the suspects entered the li~rary. PattyNielson stated at the poin~ the suspects entered the library, sheknew for a fact there were two. Wh~~ asked to elaborate, PattyNielson stated she CQuld hear the suspects' movements directly on

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the other side of the main counter she wee hiding behina. PettyNielson stated based on the movements she heard (walking typenoises), she determined there were two suspects. Patty Nielsonstated once the suspects had entered the library, she rememberedshe started whispering when speaking to the dispatcher. PattyNielson stated she initially began whispering the "Lord's PrayeJ;"at which time she also moved further underneath the deek to providebetter concealment. Patty Nielson stated at that point she wasangling in a southerly direction and was still in contact with theJefferson County Sheriff's Department dispatcher.

patty Nielsen stated she continued reCiting the Lord's prayeruntil she heard the dispatcher ask her her name. Patty Nielsonstaced she did respond to the dispatcher by indicating her name was"Patty Nielson. It Patty Nielson stated after prOViding thedispatcher with her name she then indicated, "They're in here,l!Patty Nielson stated she wanted the dispatcher to understand thesuspects had now entered the library. Patty Nielson stated it wasalso at that same time she began to hear at least one of thesuspects demanding that everyone "get up." Patt.y Nielson statedshe believed the suspect repeated that demand several times.Pursuant co questioning, Patty Nielson stated when the suspectsinitially entered the library she knew based on their movement theywere going in a westerly direction. Paeey Nielson stated thesuspects were in fact moving in a westerly directiqu when she heardthem demand that students in the library Ugee up. 11 Patty Nielsontold IO to the best of her knowledge she did not believa any of thestudents complied with the suspect1s demands. Patty Nielson toldIO it was at that t~me she began to hear gunshots on the west sideof the library. pat~y Nielson was unable to recall the nurrber ofgunshots she hea:d but ie was her belief that the suspects were"going around and shooting every student who was hiding underneaththe ubles." Patty Nielson told IO shortly after she begen to hearthe initial gunshots she then II dropped the phone, n !O clarifiedwith Patty Nielson she was still concealed under the main counterfacing what she believed was a southerly direction. Patty Nielsondid point out once she hed let go of the phone she movea furtherback in~o the open space in an effort to provide better concealmentfrom the suspects.

Patty Nielson stated once she knew shooting was going oninside the library she :began to hear "hoocing and hollering. n

patty Nielson stated ~t was very clear in her mind the $uspectswere Henjoying themselves. f' Patty Nielson reiterated it was herbelief che suspects were methodically going to each table andshooting the students who were hiding underneath those tables.Patty Nielson alec stated she heard the suspects taunting variousstudents. When asked specifically what she heard, Patty Nielsonstated she remembered one of the suspects stating to scmeone , 1tyouchink those glasses look cccl ti or 1

1You think those glassEt$ arecool. li Patty" Nielson staced it was clear in. her mind the suspectswere atcemptins to humiliate the v~ctim5 prior to shooting them.

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IO asked Patty Nielson if what she had previously described had alloc~urred on the west side of the library, Patty Nielson respondedin the negative. Patty Nielson reiterated the incident she beganon the west side of the library, however, she knew at one point shecould then hear gunshots on the east side of tne library. PattyNielson stated the "hooting and hollering f

• was balilically continuousthroughout the incident but she could not be more specificconcerning the points when she heard the suspects trying tohumiliate the victims.

When asked if she could recall any other statements made bythe suspects, Patty Nielson responded in the affirmative. PattyNielson stated at one point she remembered hearing a suspect yellto a victim, flWho do you think you are-" and at some other point sheheard one of the suspects yell/ "Kill all the jocks. lI PattyNielson again clarified she could not recall in a specific sequencewhat was said when but remembered hearing the above comments.

As Patty Nielson continued to reflect on the incident in thelibrary she hegan to recall additional de~ails, patty Nielsonspecifically began to recall other comments she had heard made bythe suspects and possible victims. When a~ked to elaborate/ pattyNielson stated at one point during the incident ahe rememberedhearing I1a boy being confrontational with them. II When asked toelaborate/ patty Nielson stated the confrontation waS strictlyverbal but remembered heaxing the unidentified male st~dent statewords to the effect of s t he t ' s: ena'.l!;h, he's dead. 1\ Patty Nielsontold IO up to this point she could not be specific in terms ofwhere the individuals were located when they were making variouscomments but believed the above described co~ment occurred furthersouth in the library towards either the center or far eastsections.

patty Nielson then reealled hearing one of the suspectscomment, 'lWhat do we have here, a nigger.l~ Patty Nielson explainedafter hearing that comment she then heard gunshots and assumedanocher student had been shot. Patty Nielson was unaQle toidentify the loeaeion where that comment originated. Patty Nielsondid clarify after hearing each gunshot she assumed another studentwas being shot.

As Patty Nielson continued to recall comments made by thesuspects and victims she remembe=ed hearing a female voice neartable #1 or #2 on the east side of the library. When asked whatshe heard coming from that location, Patty Nielson stated she heardthe female voice st.ated. IIOh God, ch God. oh God. II Patty Nielsonrela~ed in response to the above statemen~S by the female student t

she then heard one of the suspects ask, 'I¥OU believe in God?1<Patty Nielson related she believed the suspect repeated thequest.ion and again asked the female, It You believe in God?l1 PaceyNielson stated in response to the suspect's question she then heardthe female student: reply, ltYes ' f but reported t.hat voice was very

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II soft and quiet." Patty Nielson added she believed the victim wasII crying l ' during the above verbal excha.nge with the euspeca . PattyNielson went onto state when she heard the female's voice sheremetllbered thinking that the female was possibly II moving 'I as shewas speaking. Patty Nielson was unable to be more specific interms of that incident other chan to reiterate ahe knew chosecomments were coming from a location near table #1 or #2.

When asked what else she could remember related to thisincident, Patty Nielson stated there seemed to be continuousgunfire during the course of the incident intermingled with theabove descr~bed suspect and vic~irn s~atements. Patty Nielsonstated she also remembered at one point hearing glass b~eakins anda$$umed it was coming from the West windows; however, she could notbe certain, At that point in the interview, Patty Nielson againtold IO in respec~ co the comments she was unable co recall thesequence and with only a few exceptions was unable to recall whereany of the comments originated. IO confirmed with patty Nielson inrespect to the comments, if she was able to identify a general areaor location from which they originated that information wasreported and to the best of her knowledge accuraee.

when asked what she next recalled, Patty Nielson stated ae onepOlnt just prior to the s~spects leaving the library, she knew theyhad come up and walked behind the main counter, Pacey Nielsonstaced when she ~~ew the 6USP~Cts were behind the counter sheremembered hearing a student state, HI don't want to s.-ec introuble, I don't want to get. in trouble. Il Patty Nielson then heardone of the suspects respond to the student by stating. IIYou don'tknow- what trouble is-. lI Pa.tty Nielson believed the suspect thenreferred to the: student as: Ilpathetic.1! Patty Nielson relatedearlier in this i~cident she had also heard one of the suspectsrefer to another student as "patnet Lc . JI

Continuing with Patty Nielson's explanation of the incident,the forenamed stated she then heard che second suspect confxontthat same student (referred to above). Patty Nielson heard thesuspect e cat;e to the student; HWhatta we got here, a fat boy? I'

Pacty Nielson next heard one of the suspects tell the other suspecthe could "de whatever you want with that one, ! don't care. ,t PattyNielson concluded the suspect was again referring to that samestudent, At that point 10 clarified with pacty Nielson both the$U30ects were located behind the main counter and it was he: beliefthe~ student they were in contact with was also located somewherebehind the counter. Patty Nielson clarified she could not see thatscudent nor did she ever see ~hat student during the course of thisincident.

Patty Nielson related after hearing ehe above verbal exchangeshe did noe specifically hear what either of the suspects intendedto do with the student they had been threatening. Patty Nielsonreported the next comment she did hear from one of the suspects had

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"something to do with guns.n Patty Nielson was unable to be morespecific concerning that point. Patty Nielson stated after sheheard the reference to the guns she could then hear movement behindthe main counter and believed one of the suspects had possibly setsomething down as he walked past her location. Patty Nielson wasreferring co the counter area where the suspect may have placed anitem. Patty Nielson told to i: was at that point she thou9ht shewas going to "be shot.\! Patty Nielson did relate as t.he suspecthad walked pase her location she was able to glance over to theside and observed that individual wearing "b l ack pants and blackbaots,"

Within moments of making that observation, Patty Nielson thenheard one of the suspects state; "r;iaic there's one more thing. ~l

According to Patty Nielson, one of the suspects then picked up achair located behind the main counter and threw it down on top ofthe desk. Patty Nielsen stated the chair struck the desk directlyabove where she was concealed. Patty Nielson told 10 at this pointshe was uncertain as to whether or not the suspects knew she waspresent.

Patty Nielson related after the chair had been thrown on topof the desk she then heard one of the suspects et.ace , IILet' $ getdown to the Commons, \1 Patty Nielson indicated that commentindicated to her that the suspects were preparing to leave. PattyNielson stated she did not actually see the suspects leave but soonthereafter did not recall hearing any additional movement hehindthe ma~n counter, patty Nielson further clarified she did not hearany additional shots or explosions occurring in the library afterhearing that comment.

pacey Nielson stated approximately five minutes after shebelieved the suspects had left the library she came out from behindthe counter and looked out into the libra,y. Patty Nielson statedshe did not recall specifically seeing anyone but remembered seeing"tiermi.a shcee v around the area what I e been identified as tables #9and #10. Patty Nielson was unable to be more specific concerningthat point. pa~ty Nielson was askeo if she recalled seeing anyonewhen she looked out in~o the library, Patty Nielson responded inthe negative and chen added, "I assumed everyone was dead. II Pa.ttyN~elson stated at that point she crawled on her hands and kneesback into a "ki~chenR type area located directly north behind themain counter, Patty Nielson explained she then crawled into acupboard (located directly off the floor) where she closed thedoors and concealed herself. Patty Nielson stated it was at thatpoint she looked at her watch and recalled the time beingapproximately 1145 hours. Pursuant to questioning, Patty Nielsonrepor~ed she did not actually hear anyone (suspect or victim) leavethe library prior to or after she moved into the kitchen area.Patty Nielson went onto state she assumed she was the only one leftalive in the library. Patty Nielson related it was not uncil laterthat she realized others were present.

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IO subsequently asked Patty Nielson to explain what occurredafter she concealed herself in the cupboard in the kitchen area.Patty Nielson explained she could still hear what she believed weregunshots and explosions from inside the school. Patty Nielsoncla~ified the aforementioned noises were not coming from thelibrary but some place else within the school. Patty Nielsonrelated there were also times wbere there was silence after whichit would again erupt in either what she believed were guns hoes orexplosions. patty Nielson was unable to be more specificconcerning the number of gunshots or explosions she heard. PattyNielson then related it was also during this same time frame shecould still hear the suspects llyellin911 somewhere inside theschool. Again, Patty Nielson indicated the aforementioned yellingwas not coming from inside the library

When asked if she could put a time frame to the aforementionedobservations! Patty Nielson stated she knew she had made the ahoveobservations prior to hearing "helicopters. il Patty Nielson statedat one point while hidden in the cupboard she definitely heardhelicopters but pointed out she was still hearing what she believedwere gunshots coming from somewhere in the school. Pacey Nielsonstated as time passed she could feel her left foot beginning tocramp and she was also having pain in her shoulder from the gunshotinjury. Patty Nielson then attempted to describe to 10 theposition she was in while concealed in the cupboard, In brief,patty Nielson ~escribed a very cramped area which did not allow herto move any of her extremities, thus causing joint pain along withcramping. patty Nielson specifically mentioned pain sheexperienced in her shoulders/neck ar~a due to the fact her head hadto be bent forward in order to fit in the cupboard. Pacty Nielsonalso recalled trying to suppress coughs while being concealed.

10 confirmed with Patty Nielson upon entering the cupboard shewas still hearing gunshots and what she thought were explosions.She also heard yelling which she attributed to the suspects. 10further verified all those noises were coming from outside thelibrarj. When asked if she eould recall anything else up to thatpoint, Patty Nielsen paused and then responded ~n the affirmative,Pacty Nielson stated she believed she could hear a phone ringing inthe library somewhere. Patty Nielson was unable to be morespecific concerning that point.

Patty Nielsen did indicate there was one point where an eventtook place thac she could reference back to an approx~mata time dueto the fact she looked at her watch. When asked co elaborate,Patty Nielson indicated she remembered hearing mOvement in thekicchen area, Patey Nielson stated she then looked out into thekitchen area through a small opening created by the cupboard doornot closing completely. Patty Nielson stated at that po~nt she sawa female in a dress and moments later recognized that person asL01S Keen. a library assistant. Patty Nielson stated at that point

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she made contact with Lois Keen who was new standing in the kitchenarea near where she was hiding. IO confirmed with Patty Nielsonshe did not get out from the cupboard when speaking with Lois Keen.When asked what occurred during ehat conversation, Patty Nielsonstated she remembered Lois Keen asking, npatty, do you know what'sgoing on, have they caught them." Patty Nielson statea sheresponded to Lois Keen in the negative and then related to !O thiswas the first time she reali2ed there were others present in thelibrary who were still alive. Patty Nielson stated herconversation with Lois Keen was very brief and was conducted inwhispers" Patty Nielson staced based on her conversation with LoisKeen neither were able to determine whether or not the suspects hadbeen apprehended or where they were presently located. pat~y

Nielson did indicate when speaking with Lois Keen, the forenamedreported she along with Carol Weld were hiding in the llRNN room, Ii

Patty Nielson pointed out it was later she learned the forenamedassistants were hiding in the Il soundpr Qof booth.l! Patty Nielsonstated her conversation with Leis Keen was very brief after whichboth Lois Keen and Carol weld walked back towards what PattyNielson believed was the &~ reom. Patty Nielson stated it was herimpression both the forenamed were going to continue hiding in thatlocation. Patty Nielson then commented there was no discussionbetween herself and Lois Keen in terms of all three of them hidingtogether or any plan of action related to their situation.

Patty Nielson stated within a couple of minutes after theabove described situation occurred she again heard llgunfire. IIPatty Nielson reported the gunfire was very close and it wa5 herfear that Carol Weld and Lois Keen had been caught by ~he suspectsana killed. When asked how ~~y shots were fired, Patty Nielsonstated, 'IEnough to kill those two ladies." 10 verified with PattyNielson she was certain there were at least two shots fired at thatpoint, Patty Nielson stated it was possible there were more thantwo shots but simply remembered thinking that the number of shotsshe heard were certainly enough to kill Lois Keen and Carol Weld.Patty Nielson stated she remembered thinking that Lois Keen andCarol Weld had not made it back to their original hiding placeprior to being caught by the suspects.

Pursuant to questioning, Patty Nielson reported the abovedescrib~d gunshOts (which occ~r=ed shortly after 1300 hours)seemed very close and it was her belief those gunshots came frominslde the library. Patty Nielson pointed out since the time thesuspects left the library originally she had not heard gunshotsthat seemed to be as close as the ones she just described. PattyNielson was unable to be specific in terms of where the gunshotsmay have originated in reference to a specific area in the library,Patey Nielson again commented it was simply her impression thesusoects had cauqht Lois Keen and Carol Weld as they were returningto their hiding place in the RNN reom. When asked if she believedthat was where those qu~shots came from, Patty Nielson stated shecould not be certain ind could only indicate that they seemed

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close.she didclose.

Patty Nielson repeated after the above described gunfire,not hea~ any additional gunfire which seemed to be that

when aSked what other observations she made after that point.Patty Nielson stated she remembered sporadic gunfire (from adistance) along with the "bells." IO confirmed with Patty Nielsonshe was referring to the school bells which rang at the beginningand the end of every class. Patty Nielson stated she also recalledhearing llglass breaking" which she stated last.ed f'for awhile. II

Patty Nielson could not be specific in terms of where the noiseoriginated but knew it had to be somewhat close due to the fact shecould hear it. Patty Nielson was asked if she could eseimace thetime frame when she heard the glass breaking. ?atcy Nielson statedshe believed it would have been sometime between 1330 and 1400hours but definitely after the loud gunshots she reported above.Patty Nielson then pOlnced out i~ was around 1400 hours sherecalled hea.t'ing a "beeping nci.ee" which she xemembe red thinkingwas possibly a "bomb." Patty Nielson stated the "beeping noise H

was close to her location, however, she could not specificallyidentify ica origin. IO did confirm with Patty Nielson that sheheard the glass breaking prior to hearing ehe beeping noise whichshe believed began at approximately 1400 hours,

Patty Nielson stated after approximately 1400 hours she didnot recall hearing much additional gunfire. patty Nielson statedthere were periods where everything was very quiet and she wouldhea= what she thought was possibly an explosion noise or gunfire.Patty Nielson stated she wasnft specifically tim~ng any events butrecalled thinking there was apout a 20 minute delay in betweenperiods when it was very quiet and when she would hear either agunfire or explosion noise.

Patty Nielaon stated somecime between 1500 and 1515 hours sheagain heard someone in the library. Patty Nielson stated she couldhear walking and assumed one or both of the suspeces had returned.Patty Nielson then identified che noises as coming from inside thekitchen area and became very concerned. Patty Nielsen $~ated shethought it was possible the suspects were continuing to look forpeople who had hidden during chis course of this incident. PattyNielson stated while thinking the above thoughts the cupboard dooropened quickly at which time she saw Leis Keen bent over lockinginto the cupboard. Patty Nielson recalled Lois Keen immediatelystating to her f "You f re still in there. If According to patty~ielson( Lois Keen went onto state she assumed the suspects hadfound her (referring to Patty Nielson) shortly after their lastcontact. Patey Nielson specifically recalled Lois :Keen stat.ing t HIthought. they shot. you. 1l Patty Nielson then pointed out it wasapparent Lois Keen and Carol Weld had also heard the same gunshotsshortly after their previous meeting and had come to the sameconclusion. patty Nielson stated she too told Lois Keen it was herbelief they had been shot shortly after their last meeeing.

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Patty Nielson related the above contact was again brief innature and was conducted in low voices or whispers. Patty Nielsonstated a~ the end of that conversation either she nor Lois Keenthen closed the cupboard door. IO clarified with Patty Nielson aberemained in the cupboard concealed as Lois Keen appeared to bewalking back out into the library.

patey Nielson stated moments later either Carol Weld or LoisKeen yelled back in her direction, "patty, come on,' patty, oomeon. H Patty Nielson stated based on the volume of the voice sheheard she realized there was no effort being made to concealanyone's whereabouts, Patty Nielson stated she subsequently openedthe cupboard door and could see out through the doorway into thearea located behind the main library counter, Patty Nielsonexplained she was able to observe both Lois Keen and Carol Weld,Patty trLeLacn reported the II ladies" were then directing her to comeout from her place of hiding and somehow indicated that II SWATHofficer. were out in the hall. patty Niel.on .ubge~ently crawledout from the cupboard and made her way into the library stoppingbehind the main counter, patty Nielson indicated from that pointshe could see SWAT officers out in the hall direotly outside thelibrary, Patty Nielson stated the SWAT officers then direceed herout into the hall and began her evacuation. Patty Nielson didpoint out the SWAT o~ficer~ were taking precautions for theirwelfare as well as hers as she was being directed down the stairsinto the Commons. patey Nielson reported they were s~se~Jently

directed co exit the school via a west door in the Commons area.Patty Nielson stated from that point she ran up the stairs to agrass area which is located d~rectly outside the wese entrancewhere she had originally been shot. Patty Nielson stated from thatpoint she was contacted by the police and then taken to 5afet~.

Pursuant to questioning/ Patty Nielson explained during thisincident she was U~4ware Pat Ireland had escaped from the libra~1

via a west window and the suspects had actually returned to chelibrary where they were later found dead of gunshot wounds to thehead. At that point Patty Nielson reiterated observations sne hadmade which eould possibly be ccnsistenc with those events,Specifically, Patty Nielson made reference to hearing the gunshotswhich occur~ed shortly after 1300 hours which she knew were veryclose in proximity to her location. Patty Nielson" reiteratedthroughout the course of this incident, she did not hear anyadditional gunshots Which she felt could have been any closer.Patty Nielson did clarify she was noe seating the aforementionedgunshots were the ones that in fact killed the suspects,

Patty Nielson also made reference to the point sometimebetween approximately 1330 and 1400 hours when she heard glassbreaking. Again Patty Nielson was not indicating she could confirmthac was the noise caused when Pat Ireland escaped the lihrary viaone of the west windows.

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Patty Nielson indicated to IO in the event she had additionalrecollections, she would contact him with that information. IOsubsequently concluded his contact with Patty Nielson. See thediagrams and 911 tape for complete details.

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On 03/23/99, Detective Boatright {IO} was contacted byDetective Kate Batten of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department.Kate Batten subsequently requested to recontact Patti Nielson andinterview her regarding a statement appearing in an August 24, 1999~ocky Mountain News article. In brief, the statement reads, "Artteacher Patti Nielson; hiding in a cabinet/ heard voices in unisoncount, 'one! two! three!' then she heard a loud boom. II Refer tothe aforementioned Rocky Mountain News article for completedetails.

IO along with Detective Batten then discussed the previousinterview conducted with Patti Nielson occurring on OS/25/99. IOwould note he was the detective conducting that interview and at notime did Patti Nielson ever provide information as was documentedin the Rocky Mountain News article dated August 22, 1999Additionally, at no time did Patti Nielson ever offer specificinformation related to the point where Eric Harris and DylanKlebold were fatally shot. It was determined IO would recontactPatti Nielson and clarify the above issue. The above lead has notbeen assigned a DN # and Detective Batten is aware of that fact.Detective Batten indicated she would assign a DN ~ and complete theappropriace paperwork when this repor~ is reviewed.

On 08/24/99 at approximately 0845 hours IO contacted PattiNielson via telephone, IO subsequently confirmed with PattiN~elson she waS aware of the fact she had been quoted in the RockyMountain News article as documented above, When asked if that wasan accurate account of the incident occu~~in9 on 04/20/99, PattiNielson resocnded in the neqaeive, Patti Nielson told 10 she at notime has ever spoken with either Lynn Bartells or Carla Crowder(News staff writers responsible for the article} T patti Nielsenwent on to state to her knowledge she has never been interviewed bya Rocky Mountain News writer. Patti Nielson explained she didrecall giving an interview to the Denver Pest apprOXimately 2 1/2to 3 months ago but again denied making the statement which wasquoted in the Rocky MoUntain News article.

Patti Nielson told IO she was unclear as to who the source forthat quote was but speculated someone she had possibly spoken withrelayed that infcrmat~on to the Reeky Mountain News writers. Whenasked for further clarification on,that point, Patti Nielson statedover the course of time she has had numerous conversations withfriends, students and associates where she has speculated on howEric Harris and Oylan Klebold died, Patti Nlelson stated she couldhave envisioned a "scenario" where the two suspects did somethinglike a countdown and then shot themselves simultaneously, pattiNielson quickly pointed out what she described was pure speculationand she made no observations concerning that poine,

When asked if she had any additional information she felt was

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relevant to this investigation, Patti Nielson responded in theaffirmative. Patti Nielson went on to explain even though sha madeno specific observations concerning the point where Eric Harris andDylan Kl.ebcLd died, she said did have 11 "feeling.;' Patti Nielsonexplained she was again simply "speculating ll but felt that EricHarris and Dylan Klebold had shot themselves I1simultaneously.'1Patti Nielson went on to state approximately one half hour to 45minutes prior to being evacuated by SWAT members she did recallhearing a "boom" noise which she believed came from the southwestcorner of the library. Patti Nielson reit84ated she made noadditional observations and was simply 'lspeculating ll t.hat noisecould have been associated with simultaneous gunshots resulting thedeath of Eric Harris and ~ilan Klebold. Patti Nielson stated shehad no additional information related to this investigation. IOwould note during his previous interview with the forenamed onOS/25/99 Patti Nielson did not disclose hearing a Hboom t1 noiseemanating from the southwest corner of the library occurringapproximately one half hour to 45 minutes prior to being evacuated.IO would note Patti Nielson indicated she was evacuated from thelibrary sometime between 1500 and 1515 hours on 04/20/99. IOconcluded his contact with Patti Nielson.

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