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From the Helm Gary Nasby- Commandant Hiram I. Bearss Det. #089

“GET OFF THE COUCH!”

Greetings members of the Detachment, I hope this finds you all well. If any member or member of their family is sick or in distress, as always please contact our Chaplain, Jesus Quintana at 317-445-9509. On this page you will find out where our Marine Corps is heading. Send me your comments about this article. I will publish them in the next newsletter.

Keep them clean Marines! Also in this issue you will find 3 Golf Tournaments that you can enter. All will benefit Marines or other service men, so get off the couch , dust off your clubs and enter one or more of them. There is also info on 2 Mayors (Ballard) Veteran Appreciation days. HIB is a member of MACV (Mayors Ad-visory Council on Veterans). You and your family are invit-ed to both, so again get off the couch and participate! What else is there for me to do in this Detachment you ask? Recruit a new member– Application 9. Become a Devil Dog– Page 18 Advertise your business here for free– Page 16-17 Book a trip to the Marine Museum– Page 15 **EVERY MEMBER OF THE DETACHMENT HAS BEEN SENT A BOOK OF 5 RAFFLE TICKETS. PLEASE SELL AND RETURN THEM TO US ASAP** Get your Marine Foundation of Indiana, and help Marines in need– Page 14 Show your Shooting skills– Page 13 Become a plank owner– Page 7 Win a Weapon– Page 11 How about a great Brisket Dinner?- Page 21 We are an active Detachment offering you a lot of activities, SO GET OFF THE COUCH! Lastly keep our troops in harms way in your thoughts and prayers. I am available at for your comments and discussion: Phone- (317) 855-8798 E-Mail– [email protected]

SCUTTLEBUTTSCUTTLEBUTTSCUTTLEBUTT MONTHLY NEWSLETTER OF THE

HIRAM I. BEARSS MARINE CORPS LEAGUE –DET #089

Indianapolis, Indiana EDITOR: GARY D. NASBY

Volume 38 - Issue 6 July 2013 www.IndyMarines.org

Of interest to Veterans

Marines Will Sacrifice Everything But ACV & Readiness To Sequester; Marine Personnel Carrier Dropped: Gen. Amos

By SYDNEY J. FREEDBERG JR.on June 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM http://breakingdefense.com/2013/06/26/marines-will-sacrifice-everything-but-acv-readiness-to-sequester-marine-personnel-carrier-dropped-gen-amos/

WASHINGTON: Fewer F-35B Joint Strike Fighters, MV-22 Os-

preys, AH-1 Cobras, and UH-1 Hueys. No Marine Personnel Carrier.

Maybe no Joint Light Tactical Vehicle to replace the Humvee. 8,000

fewer Marines on active duty. The Marine Commandant has put all

that on the table as part of his proposal to the Defense Secretary’s

Strategic Choices and Management Review. If sequester goes into

effect in its full 10-year, $500 billion glory – and all signs so far are it

will – then Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos stands

ready to sacrifice almost everything except the Amphibious Combat

Vehicle and combat readiness.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel hasn’t made his final decisions, Gen.

Amos emphasized at a Defense Writers’ Group breakfast this morn-

ing. But Amos made clear his preferences. A select and secretive

team on Amos’s staff has come up with its own plan to cut the Ma-

rine Corps budget by 10 percent – reflecting full sequester – and sub-

mitted it to Hagel to be considered as part of the SCMR. “I don’t want this to happen,” Amos said, but if it has to, “tell me …..

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A MONTHLY PUBLICATION SERVING THE MARINE CORPS LEAGUE FAMILY OF CENTRAL INDIANA

STOP IN ANY 2nd or 4th THURSDAY OF THE MONTH @ 18:00, MEET SOME MARINES, TAKE A TOUR, AND SEE WHAT WE ARE ABOUT

HIB Meeting minutes, & Official documents from National MCL, MODD, & HIB can be downloaded from here… http://www.indymarines.org/pages/officialdocs.htm

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INDIANAPOLIS GOLF TOURNAMENT

PFC Deryk Hallal

1979 – 2004

Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013

Time: Registration opens at 10:00 am

Shotgun Start at 12 Noon

Contact: Tyler Mensch

(317) 429-7921

[email protected]

Location: Pebble Brook Golf Club

Address: 310 Westfield Road

Noblesville, IN 46062

TO REGISTER: h p://www.mcsf.org/indygolf

The 18th Annual Indianapolis Golf Tournament will be held on September 12, 2013, at the Pebble Brook Golf Club in No-blesville, Indiana. The proceeds from this year’s tournament will be donated to thePFC Deryk Hallal Memorial Scholarship Fund through the Marine Corps Scholarship Foun-dation.

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SR. VICE– TIM HUTCHISON- From the desk for the Sr. Vice: 1- The pre-order form for the HIB detachment challenge coin will be distributed during the next meeting. If you can't attend, let us know how many you would like and we will reserve them for you. The cost will be $5.50 per coin. Challenge coins are a great way to meet fellow Marines. Remember, the coins are at no cost to the detachment. 2- The detachment really needs each of our members to attend the monthly meetings. Much is going on within the detachment and we need your input and support. Remember, it is your detachment!!! 3- Of course, I will be updating the membership on current events in the Marine Corps. JR. VICE- STEVE McCRORY- We only have 6 volunteers signed up to Donate blood for the Blood Drive on Sept 21 when we have the meal at the Barracks. Please sign up to Donate Blood and get your meal for only $5.00.

Members that need to pay their membership dues are as follows: Fred McQueen,7-1 Michael Reynolds , 7-1 Cynthia Dirker , 7-3 Stephen Dirker , 7-3 Elaine Funderbunk , 7-3 Frederick Farrell , 7-5 Donald Leuteritz ,7-23 Oran Lankin, 7-29 Seth Wade, 7-29 Nathan Zaugg, 7-29 These Dues can be paid by check made out to "Marine Corps League " placed in envelope and dropped into mail slot at barracks OR Delivered at meeting to: Commandant- Gary Nasby JR. Vice Commandant -Steve McCrory Paymaster - Melissa Jacobs ADJUTANT– MIKE WUKITSCH-

I continue to update the Hiram I Bearss Roster on a once a month basis, immediately after each member meeting. A copy is sent to Junior Vice Commandant McCrory. I need to obtain DOB’s (Date of Birth) in order for the Paymaster Jacobs, Junior Vice Comman-dant McCrory or me to be able to respond to questions regarding Life Membership costs. Al-so, current phone numbers, cell phone numbers and email addresses need to be continually updated. I completed my task of ordering the Hiram I Bearss Detachment replacement flag from Marine Corps League Headquarters. The flag will be 4’ 4” by 5’ 6”, fringed in gold, embroidered on both sides with: MARINE CORPS LEAGUE above the Eagle, Globe and Anchor and, HIRAM I. BEARSS DET. 089 and INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA on two banners below the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The cost, approved by a Motion at the last membership meeting, is $1,162 plus $29.05 shipping for a total of $1,191.05.

New this year is a request that all Officers/ Board of Trustees are asked to submit a brief of the report they will give at the monthly Detachment meeting (by the 1st of each month), so that those that are unable to attend Detachment meetings will know what is going on in their official duties. Gary Nasby-Editor

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PAYMASTER– MELISSA JACOBS-

JUDGE ADVOCATE–ORAN LAKIN My understanding of the by laws is slow ,but I will spend such time as needed to get up to speed. Our Detachment owes Gregg Troxel a big well done. Oran Lakin J.A. Semper Fi. SGT. AT ARMS– JOHN LUND- No Report Submitted CHAPLAIN– JESUS QUINTANA- No Report Submitted JR. PAST COMMANDANT– BUD ALBRIGHT- No Report Submitted

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HIB's Parade Schedule 2013

Parade Date Start Starting Place Registered? Comments

Freedom Festival Pa-rade

June 29th 1000 Greenwood Middle School, 523 S. Madi-son, Greenwood

Yes

CarmelFest Parade July 4th 1100 MCL Cafeteria, 116th Street & Keystone Ave, Carmel

Yes Participating in the Remax Real-ty entourage.

Miracle Mile Parade August 31st 1300 Southern Ave & Madi-son Ave, Indianapolis

Yes Meeting for attendees set for Friday, August 23 at 11 a.m. in the Garfield Park Art Center.

Riley Festival Parade October 6th 1100 Greenfield High School, Franklin St & McKen-zie Rd, Greenfield

No

Wortman-Lowe Detachment handles all details pertaining to this parade. HIB members wel-comed.

Veteran's Day Parade November 11th 1145 Pennsylvania Ave & Michigan Ave, Indian-apolis

Not Yet Will register late July.

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NAME-_____________________________ ADDRESS-___________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ PHONE-_____________________






August 23rd-24th-25th Exposition Hall

October 18th-19th-20th South Pavilion

Send money and completed tickets to– “Commandant-Marine Corps League, 550 S Audubon Road, Indianapolis, IN 46219”

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July 4 (Thur) Carmel Fest Parade—1030 @ Carmel 9 (Tues) USS Indianapolis Ship 35—Golf Tournament—1500 @ Saddlebrook Golf Course 11 (Thur) HIB Membership Meeting 1900-Dinner 1800 (PitchIn dinner 1800) 13 (Sat) Mayors Veteran Appreciation Day– Eagle Creek Park– 1000-1600 20 (Sat) HIB BBQ 1100-1400 25 (Thur) Staff Meeting-1800 (Pound 111 Growl @ 1900) August 3 (Sat) MACV @ Marriott East 1000-1400– HIB has booth there– All members welcome– free food 8 (Thur) HIB Membership Meeting 1900-Dinner 1800 (PitchIn dinner 1800) 4-10 (Fri-Sun) MCL– National Convention– Grand Rapids Michigan 22 (Thur) Staff Meeting-1800 23-25 (Sat&Sun) Indy 1500 Gunshow September 21 (Sat) 5th Annual Leatherneck Open Golf– 1200 28 (Sat) 3rd Annual Jim Wade Gun Shoot -

Mark Your Calendar!

HIB MCL OFFICER ROSTER Commandant Gary Nasby Sr. Vice Commandant Tim Hutchison Jr. Vice Commandant Steve McCrory Adjutant Mike Wukitsch Paymaster Melissa Jacobs Judge Advocate Oran Lakin

Chaplain Jesus Quintana, Jr Sergeant at Arms Joseph Lohman Jr. Past Commandant Bud Albright

HIB MCL COMMITTEE ROSTER VAVS Representative Jesus Quintana, Jr. VAVS Deputy Diana Ward Raffles Tony Mungovan Stars and Stripes Jim Wade Scuttlebutt / WebSgt Gary Nasby Awards Oran Lakin Christmas Banquet Tony Mungovan Historian-Eagle Scouts-Joe Lohman Boy Scout Eagle Awards Fred Axthelm Toys For Tots Bud Albright Parades/Gaming Tony Mungovan MCL Svc. Officer Diane Ward Young Marines Liaison Dave Hulett Quartermaster Bud Albright Training Officer Tim Hutchison Honor Guard Jesus Quintana

Central Indiana Marine Points of Contact

Marine Corps League H.I. Bearss Det: Office 317-546-7228 Commandant Gary Nasby 317-855-8798 Chaplain Jesus Quintana 317-445-9509 Nat Mar Cor Museum, St IN Liaison: Russ Eaglin 317-201-7066 1st Marine Division Association: Guy Miller 317-293-7594 3rd Marine Division Association: Russ Eaglin 317-201-7066 Montford Point Association: Robert D. Smith 317-924-9790 Woman Marine Association: Connie Hamm 317-345-0070 Marine Corps Coordinating Council: CWO2Christopher King Marine Inspector Instructor: 1st Sgt Wooten 317-923-1584 Marine Recruiting Service: Maj. Geoff Hollopeter 317-549-6127 Marine For Life Program: Central Indiana Young Marines: Dave Heffner 317-341-3880 Speedway Young Marines: Dave Hulett 317-508-2763 Editor, Scuttlebutt & HIB WebSgt: Gary Nasby 317 855-8798 MarCorScholarship Found: Capt Edward Smid 317-690-9369 USMC TSO– Major Michael Kutsor

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Central Indiana Young Marines 8050 Winterset Circle Indianapolis, IN 46214

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The Marine Barracks "Online" Ships Store is now has the Marine Corps League, Hiram I. Bearss Detachment 089 logo available for Apparel, Accessories, Fleece, hats and visors. The De-tachment ships store makes a small profit that will be reinvested into ships store merchandise.

Start shopping now, go to: http://marinebarracksindy.qbstores.com/

ATTENTION: Listen up Marines Here is the Challenge; This years Shoot is scheduled for Sept. 28 (Saturday) or if rained out, move to October 5 Location: Jim Wade's farm in Northern Owen County. Time: help set up tables 0830 to 0900 Shoot begins 1000 We must have a Range Officer at all times. Only bring weapons UNLOADED. We will load at the firing line. If any of you have not attended, plan to come and have fun. There will be heavy Competition. You will be shooting for the Record against Marine Legions like : Master Gun Lund, Oran (only in the black) Lakin, Gary (watch this from the hip) Nasby, and last but not least “I am a Tanker Wade”. The for the record coarse will be : Rifle on official 100 yard, 8 rounds offhand, 8 rounds sitting, 8 rounds prone. Pistol will be 12 rounds at 20 yards, 12 rounds at 10 yards. It will be a pitch-in lunch, League furnish the meat, shooters bring something to share. Gary has promised a Trophy to the top shooter.

Call Jim if you want to practice any time this summer. Gary also has planned a tomahawk and knife throwing competition. I'm trying to get Jane Fonda to pull butts.

3rd Annual Jim Wade Memorial Gun Shoot @ Wade Farm. Prizes, Camaraderie, Food, Gun Shooting!

Saturday Sept. 28, 2013

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All Monies go to Marines and FMF Corpsman

From Page 20 plans; the sequester would take it down to 174,000. (That’s all active-duty troops: The Marine Reserve didn’t grow for the war and it’s not being cut now, Amos said). But the Marines who remain, Amos pledged, will be fully equipped, trained, and ready to go. Historically, Marine units averaged “about 80 percent [of authorized] equipment, 80 percent manning, probably about 60 percent readiness,” he said. “The truth of the matter is we weren’t already ready to go.” That’s no longer acceptable, Amos said. Sequestration has taken a deep bite out of readiness in 2013 simply because “operations and maintenance” funds were the easiest to cut in a hurry, but going forward, Amos said, units will have 97 percent of their authorized per-sonnel, 100 percent of their authorized equipment, and 100 percent of their O&M training money. Said Amos, “I may have fewer units, but by golly they’re going to be ready.”

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NEXT GROWL FOR 2013: September 26th AT 1900 @ MARINE BARRACKS INDY

SEE ANY OFFICER BELOW BECOMING A DOG

Office Name Pound Keeper PDD Bud Albright

Senior Vice Pound Keeper PDD Gary Nasby

Jr. Vice Pound Keeper PDD Russ Eaglin

Dog Robber DD-Lloyd Louks

Smart Dog PDD Mike Wukitsch

Mad Dog DD Oran Lakin

Dog Trainer PDD Jesus Quintana

Police Dog DD Jeff Milner

Watch Dog DD Connie Hamm

Jr. Past Pound Keeper PDD Russ Eaglin

Pooper Scooper PUP Harry Snyder

Dog Scratcher PDD Mike Wukitsch

Barking Dog PDD Gary Nasby

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…….what my budget’s going to be; I’ll build the best Marine Corps that America can afford.”

“I don’t want to get out ahead of my secretary because there’ve been no final decisions made,” Amos said when asked for details, but the

butcher’s bill for full sequestration will definitely cost the Marines Corps “infantry battalions… logistics battalions…. fixed-wing squadrons …

[some] F-35s… some [AH-1] Cobras and [UH-1] Hueys… some MV-22s.”

Then there is the gear the Marines may never get at all. That includes the Marine Personnel Carrier, a wheeled, armored transport meant to

complement more costly tracked vehicles. Just weeks ago contractors were boasting about successful trials of MPC contenders. But “MPC is

off the table now,” Amos sighed. “It’s not a function of it wasn’t a good idea and there wasn’t a need” – it was and there is – “but you can’t

have everything…. We’ll keep the concept, probably, alive but we’re not heading towards MPC right now.”

Then Amos raised a big question mark over a big program, the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, an armored truck meant to combine the protection

of the MRAPs built for Afghanistan and Iraq with the offroad mobility of the original Humvee. The Army is buying more than 90 percent of

the new vehicles, but the Marines were slated to buy the first 5,500 JLTVs off the production line. Even that figure required the Corps to keep

(and modernize) half its existing Humvees. Now it may buy no JLTVs at all.

“JLTV is moving along,” said Amos, “[but] under sequestration I’d say it’s certainly on the block for consideration.” As with the Marine Per-

sonnel Carrier, “I need them, I like ‘em, but [if] I pay my full sequester bill of 10 percent, it’s going to be questionable whether I can afford

JLTV,” he said. “I like what I see but I’m not going to die in a ditch over it.”

What Amos will die in a ditch over, however, is a new amphibious armored transport to carry Marines from their assault ships to shore and

then, switching to tank-like tracks, inland. That capability is so critical to the Marines’ core competency as a seaborne force that Amos said he

will cancel JLTV and live with refurbished Humvees “before I mortgage the Amphibious Combat Vehicle.”

“That program is alive,” Amos said of the ACV. “I have kept the money – it’s a modest amount of money” in the near-term, all for R&D.

“I’m only going to get one bite at this apple; I don’t want to mess this up,” Amos said. That’s because in 2011 Defense Secretary Robert Gates

canceled the previous attempt at an amphibious transport, the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle. The EFV’s cost and complexity had gotten out

of control, because the Marines’ requirements for rapid movement ship-to-shore required the 40-ton armored vehicle to “plane” across the sur-

face of the water like a speedboat. By contrast, the current LVTP-7 Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAV) is a “displacement” vehicle that keeps

its hull in the water like a conventional watercraft. But, said Amos, “you can only push the steel brick through the water so fast unless you get

it up on plane.”

Nor has Amos given up on high speed, not yet. (He didn’t detail why, but Marines are deeply worried that, as anti-ship cruise missiles prolifer-

ate in so-called “anti-access/area denial” defenses, future enemies will be able to keep the Navy so far off shore that existing amphibians could-

n’t make it to the beach in time).

The Marines have already completed one formal analysis of alternatives (AOA), but Amos has told the two prime contractors, “one more time,

give me your concept on a high-water-speed vehicle,” he said. “They’re going to tell me in the fall, and then shortly after the New Year begins

in 2014, we’ll put out an RFP, request for proposal” – either for a slower “displacement” vehicle or a faster “planing” one, depending on what

the budget can bear.

“I’m not naïve, cost is important to me,” Amos emphasized. “I need a good solid Ford F-150, I don’t need a Cadillac Escalade.”

Amos was reluctant to give precise figures for any of these economies – and in many cases they’re still being thrashed out, such as the price

difference between the two types of ACV.

The one hard number the commandant would give was 8,000: That’s the number of active-duty Marines he’ll have to give up under sequestra-

tion. The Marine Corps was already coming down from a wartime high of 202,000 to 182,000 under pre-sequestraiton budget …….

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